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      15.07.2013 13:54
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      "One of your five a play"

      The Great Smart Phone Debate
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      If you ask me, the system of fathoming mobile technology should be as simple as boiling a kettle, changing the bed, washing oneself, or making macaroni cheese. Alas, it is far from it.
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      I had the pleasure of being associated with an American young-gun of twenty one years, who is 'the' mobi-expert when it came to a smart phone. His lecture had the same durability as the bible, if it wasn't for the fact humans require to: eat, drink, have bladder and bowel movements and sleep, he would still be lecturing about the smart phone revolution even today. He neither functioned efficiently due to overdosing on fizzy caffeine or could think beyond his 'apps' - functioning wise, he epitomises an 'app slave' - smart phones don't allow you to function, think for your-self - not exactly smart is it to have a device to determine your daily design? The great smart-phone debate is not new either. I was informed it had reverberated across cyberspace to the moon and back fifty times - we've spoken less about Einstein than about smart-phones. Einstein had a bigger memory and didn't require finger activation, unless you include turning pages or clicking on web-links as finger activation of course. I was informed that the Android mobi-system was one of the biggest marketing campaigns that have hit our species ever - and we as a consumer animal have gulped down its prophecies as if we all were staying at an 'all inclusive holiday package.' Think of the Leymann Brothers in 2008 and you're closer to their fundamental flaws: aye - it appears the Android Jelly Bean was built on Gingerbread literally, crumbling is inevitable. This isn't a pun - their smart-phones harbour many glitches that the whole navigational system works around them illogically - this is an example of a flawed platform becoming too gargantuan to solve. In reality the Android has already reached its zenith. However, media lawyers also unearthed a seismic error that infringes media royalties; one that Apple has ironed out prior to 2007. Their loyalties are to the media industry and this is what slowed-up Steve Jobs 'mobi-consumer-revolution.' Apple own media industries and wireless patents.

      The smart-phone guru is not an advocate to Apple Inc - he is aware that even a meek solar storm will make smart-phones merely an elegant wall tile with no purpose. End of smart-phone debate, end of mobi-technologies as we know it. Well those dependant of out-of-this-world satellites, which is 100% of them. He speaks gravely as if Armageddon was on the horizon, I witnessed 'tender humanity' in his tone, but a second later he is back to normal - back to his default posture and tone. What is it with oblong shapes that install a sense of divinity to our existence? Smart-phone today, Bible yesteryear - the difference today is the consumer animal is fed by capitalism's hand; the Bible once fed the soul - you can't get that on an 'app,' yet! Out of the three quarters of a million of them, there is an obvious lack of divine preaching - although the young-gun did his own version. For inter-personal content (personal versatility) you aim for Jelly Beans courtesy from Google, for the short term. Those who're prone to more simplistic interfaces; the iOS platform courtesy from Apple is the long-term option. Android at least attempts being a little more human than iOS - which is insane, but humans do make mistakes - machines generically should not. You could say Android is a success story on this premise; for those wanting a smart-phone to respond appropriately 'on request' the iOS platform enables tighter and better navigational control. Although it is in Google's nature to randomly offer alternative persuasions - 'ways of viewing' - I wonder if Android users have noticed it, or has it subsided into our psyche like a melted 'Solero.' What the young-gun did claim was how quickly the youthful brain adapts to Jelly Beans tiresome quirks, and in any case the swift user interface is much preferred; not for this old timer.

      "You ram something down your throat and you're bound to throw up." McLuhan could've written it for our obsession for smart-phones, the young expert's pasty face mirrored total delusion, when I said the quote. I broke his vocal swagger - he returned to his default position swiftly with an eyebrow twitch. At this point I started to realise the chasm of social interaction between us - The youth prefer the Jelly Beans even if it means Google's platform is inferior to Apple. Young-gun is aware of its downfalls although it doesn't concern him, I plod along with the RIM Blackberry and in unison we scare at very different icons and styles. He gasps with annoyance when an actual call shrills out, a phone-call - "how annoying!" probably an older user asking for 'actual vocal interaction;' evidently some-one on the cusp of smart-phone usage, who uses a phone like a phone, shock horror. I was right; an elderly thirty year old chap wanted to gain access to mobi-techie-stuff. He sprouted out mobi-jargon while touching up his Nexus - multi-tasking I guess, apparently he was updating something he had put off for two hours. I didn't have the heart to joke: "Google is keeping tags on you."

      iOS platform supersedes Google's Play in regards to quantity of media content. Apple catapulted their library offerings: Like a cat and mouse scene I suspect the 'Tom and Jerry' cartoon won't reach a climax until the Fat legged lady with a broom jumps up onto a rickety stool and shrieks: "Enough; all this is driving me stupid; why not be smart for a change?" At present the end game is far from over - the great smart-phone debate is a marathon, not a sprint. Android has to go through the entire confectionary store until the consumer can't stomach it; by that point another fad would descend onto our money-go-round techie lifestyle. Sadly, the young-guns today seemed trapped in a world of smart-phone paraphernalia - I have great sympathy.

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        14.01.2009 23:45
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        Go for 02!

        I think over the years I've probably been on every network that exists so hopefully I've got a pretty good opinion on which is good & which isn't not mentioning any names (T Mobile).

        So we might as well start with one of the really big mobile networks & that's Vodafone. The last contract I had was with Vodafone & the only reason I changed was because it ran out & I found a marginally cheaper deal but if I hadn't have found that I would have been more than happy to stay with Vodafone.

        The signal strength seems to be great everywhere I go, you've always got at least 3 bars out of 6 at all times, there's no weak areas unless maybe you're going up on the moors or through a tunnel!

        The price plans are great, they seem to have something to benefit everyone. They start at £15 a month for an 18 month contract. This includes 0 minutes & unlimited texts, not exactly a balanced contract, they could have easily given you 500 of each but if you only call in emergencies then for £15 you can afford to go over your contract by a few pounds.

        The most expensive plan they do is £80 a month which is also an 18 month contract. This includes a staggering 3000 minutes (who uses 3000 minutes a month?) & of course the standard unlimited texts. This is obviously great if you're a mortgage advisor making 50k a year but sadly not all of us make that!

        The pay as you go price plans are pretty cheap as they go, only costing 10p a text & 20p a minute for calls. This is great if you're maybe an elderly person that will just be using the phone for emergencies. I hear a lot of people say that pay as you go is a lot cheaper than a contract phone, well that obviously depends how much you use your phone. I was on pay as you go a couple of years ago & for the amount of texts I sent & phone calls I made I was spending nearly £100 a month which is pretty outrageous.

        So moving on to Orange. I've had a bad experience with Orange which has kind of put me off going back to them but to be fair it was a couple of years ago & chances are is that everything has changed since then but a few years ago I bought a £350 phone from Orange along with the insurance for £49.99 a month for 12 months & about 3 months into it I had my phone stolen so first thing I did after blocking my sim was go into orange for a replacement but apparently I couldn't get a replacement as it doesn't cover stolen phones It only covers lost phones... what's the difference? If you've had your phone stolen you've lost it! So then when tried to cancel my insurance I couldn't as it was a 12 month contract so I ended up paying £49.99 a month for another 9 months to insure a phone that I didn't have. I then had to buy myself another phone which of course I couldn't insure as I couldn't afford it.

        Anyway moving on! Orange have 3 different types of contracts that they strangely call Dolphin, Racoon, Canary & Panther. Well the cheapest deal across all these plans is £19 a month which consists of 50 minutes & 25 texts which less face is it pretty awful by any standards. The most expensive across all the ranges is £55 which gets you 900 minutes, 450 extra minutes (why they couldn't simply combine the two & say 1350 minutes is beyond me) & 100 texts. Which again isn't a lot. Generally if you're using 1350 minutes a month you're likely to text quite a bit as well so 100 texts is no where near sufficient.

        The pay as you go deals are 20p a minute for calls however on the Racoon tariff they are 15p a minute. Texts are 10p apart from on the Camel tariff where they're 15p. This is pretty much the same as all pay as you go tariffs.

        I have looked up price plans on the internet & I wont bore you with them all as they are all pretty similar but I will lastly go to my personal favourite network which is 02. I have been on 02 quite a few times over the years & I honestly don't know why I changed in the first place. The price plans are great, the customer service is great, the rewards are great. Basically what I'm trying to say if you haven't caught on yet is that 02 is great.

        The price plans start at £20 a month which although is £5 more expensive than Vodafone's basic plan it does include 75 minutes & 250 texts as opposed to Vodafone's modest 0 minutes & unlimited texts. The most expensive one like Vodafone is £80 a month this includes 3000 minutes & 1000 texts. Vodafone actually beats 02 on this one with of course the same 3000 minutes but instead of 1000 texts they give you unlimited.

        The bonus with 02 however is they have a range of contract lengths. These rage from 12-24 months with the usual 18 month in the middle. Something I picked up on when on the Orange & Vodafone website is that they only seem to do one length of contract which isn't great considering the money people pay, the least the networks can do is let us pick how long our contract will last!

        The pay as you go charges for 02 are as follows; 10p a text & 15p a minute. This overall is cheaper than both Orange & 02. You also get rewards like if you top up £10 in any given month you will receive 300 free texts, £15 in a month will get you 500 & £30 is unlimited which is great if you prefer to steer clear of contracts.

        The contract I'm currently on is an 18 month one for £35 a month which gives me 600 minutes & unlimited texts. I love the unlimited texts feature & never buy a phone without it as I tend to send about 2500 a month. I do go over my 600 minutes sometimes but it's only 20p a minute to go over & it's easy to manage your minutes & texts by sending a blank text to 21202. This sends you a text message telling you how many minutes & texts you've got left along with how much your current months contract is up to which should be the figure you're always charged unless of course you go over.

        Overall I think 02 is by far the best network, not only for the varying contracts but also for the rewards they give you like free minutes every month or tickets for the 02. The customer service I have discovered is also great, the people are always friendly, happy to help & always sort the problem as quickly as they possibly can. I would also say that contracts are much better value for money however if you don't use your phone very much or don't want to get tied down then go for pay as you go on 02 as it's cheaper & you get great rewards simply for topping up.

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          16.10.2008 22:54
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          Keep your bill down with smart use.

          I work for the mobile network T-Mobile in the business sector, and want to share my knowledge of how to cut your bills, check you are on correct price plan and other services you can use.

          First thing, I am not biast in my network choice, I simply work for the company and know how they work, I agree that sometimes customers are not happy with us like all networks, and in various parts of the UK the network will not be good.

          First thing is, check your price plan is the right one to suit your needs. We have so many calls now where customers and business alike are trying to cut back anywhere they can due to the credit crunch.
          The best way to check is to compare the monthly lline rental charge against the actual cost of your monthly bill. If there is a huge difference, chances are the plan either does not have enough allowance to match you needs, or you will be making calls that are not included.

          I will not go into price plans available, but you can log on to the tmobile website to check out the deals on offer at www.t-mobile.co.uk.

          The next way to make a saving is to pay either by direct debit or bacs, if you pay by other methds you will incur a £3.00 charge each month. Not much, but at the moment every penny counts!

          If you want to check your allowance and overspend you can do this now by sms message. Simply send a text message to 150 with the letters al. This is free and will text you back to tell you your allowance and if you have any other call charges. Again, this is handy if you want to keep within your monthly line rental cost.

          Tips for when abroad....If you dont need your voicemail, you can either switch it off through the call diverts menu on your handset, or call customer services to have this done. All calls that are diverted to your voicemail when you are abroad will incur the charge per minute of the country you are in, when you listen to it, again you are charged for making an outbound call in the country you are in.

          Picture messages are cheaper to send than text messages on our network when abroad, so if you use this, you could save half the cost.

          If you want to use your phone for email or internet usage, you are best to either check the website or call in, as there are various discounts that can be added to reduce the cost to you.

          This is the main ways I can see how you can reduce your bill, and manage money more effectivley each month. You could reduce your mobile bill by half by being on the correct tarrif, leaving the money free for other things.

          Lat tip is if you have your handset lost or stolen, please report it even if you are not sure if you will get it back. This is so line can be suspended and stop call charges being made whilst not in your posession that you are then liable for.

          Hope some of this is useful, again I am not biast to T-Mobile, I just have a bit more information as I am dealling with these requests on a daily basis.

          The other big rule, is to shop about. At various times year round all networks release promotions that are really good value for money.

          Why let big companies have our hard earned cash!

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            21.03.2003 00:35
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            Cannot make calls or recieve call NO ACCESS Whats happening!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Been with T-MOBILE for almost 4 years[excellent service overall especially reception and coverage] each year upgrading to a new mobile ericission mobile phone.In november decided to upgrade again as my 12 month contract had expired but T-MOBILE did not have a good phone range. And were not able to provide me with the ericission T-68i for a good price. Thus signed up a one year contract with orange via mobile.com who gave me the T68i for free with a lot of acccesories.At the time I had the option to go with vodafone who were doing a similar deal but donot why I did not. The reception and coverage for the orange network is crapp. That too in a place like warwick .where the coverage is supposed to be 100%. not only this area but in general the reception quality and coverage is very poor. Resulting if frequent missed calls, disconnection, no network being detected. It definately is not the phone it is unlocked and using it with other networks[ t-mobile and vodafone] I have had no such problems . Plus there are areas where orange has no signal at all and I cannot make any calls but with T-mobile and Vodafone I have had no such problem with the same phone just a question of interchanging sim cards which i usually borrow off my friends phone who are connected mostly to vodafone . EAGERLY WAITING FOR MY CURRENT CONTRACT TO END SO I CAN GET BACK ON TO T-MOBILE. WILL ORANGE DO SOMETHING IT ........................................ The above was my original review thanks for the feed back but the below review is written on 16/3/03 ....................... For the past four days i cannot make calls at all on the orange network. i have tried the orange sim card in other phones but it does not work . I use it in the west midlands which is supposed to have good coverage . My mobile phone just says no access or when the orange log does come up it just does not connect wh
            en I dial any number two beeps are heard and the connection is lost not even a ring tone is heard.I must say again i have use d the orange sim in other mobiles .Its works on none on them. Do I have a faulty sim card ? Or is the network to blame? Cannot blame the phone as used it in three different mobiles phones on which it does not work .while other network sims work perfectly. Never had such trouble with a network. Cannot understand this one .....................................the saga continues ..................................will keep you posted as to what happens ...............the helpline have been ok but could have done much better. But if any of you have any ideas why my orange sim card refuses to work on any mobile I would be most grateful. Thank you for reading.

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              01.04.2002 01:28
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              Here are some tips I thought I’d share when it comes to choosing and using mobile phone networks and price plans. These are the questions to consider in order to decide what is right for you. It is difficult to get the deal which works out to be the cheapest for you but here goes! I’m just going to look at it from a personal user point of view as most business users don’t pay their own bill. Also if you are a current user there are ways of reducing your bills. HOW MUCH ARE YOU GOING TO USE THE PHONE? Firstly, is the phone intended for emergency use only? This is very rare since most people I know always end up using their phone much more than they originally intended to. If the phone is strictly for emergency use then buy a pay as you go package phone (or a sim card if you already have a phone, check that it isn’t sim locked by a service provider if you aren’t going to use it on the same network which the phone was supplied connected to), you just need to ensure that there is no credit expiry date and you keep your phone’s battery charged for emergencies, all batteries will discharge after a period of time even if the phone has not been switched on. If the phone is to enable people to contact you check the cost of calling the various networks from a BT phone as these vary. It follows that the cheapest network to call from a landline phone is BT Cellnet. WHO WILL YOU BE CALLING? Secondly, are you going to be calling landlines or other mobile users most frequently? And when will you be making the bulk of these calls? Unlike your home phone most mobile operators have a peak time 7am to 7pm Monday to Friday with one Orange pay as you go package being the notable exception – you can choose your own off-peak hours to some extent. (You get an extra hour of off peak time in the morning with Vodafone and BT Cellnet.) If you are going to call one mobile network more than others (which network are you
              r friends, family and partner etc. on?) then it makes sense to connect to the same network as them since you can benefit from cheaper calls to the same network. Coverage of any of the networks only becomes an issue in rural areas but beware all operators have so called black spots in the middle of towns! In my own experience Orange and Vodafone are the best in terms of coverage, I have been with Orange on the same number for six years. I am a relatively heavy user now but when I first chose Orange I don’t think pay as you go was available and I chose Orange because I thought Orange was the most innovative network (and still do) although they certainly weren’t market leaders in terms of coverage then. CONTRACT OR PAY AS YOU GO? Next consideration is whether to connect to a contract (12 months minimum) where you pay monthly line rental and get inclusive minutes and maybe also inclusive text messages as well. Inclusive minutes can be off peak only or anytime. There is an increasing selection of tariffs where the inclusive minutes are not only same network and landline calls but include other mobile networks. You don’t get as many minutes though. Pay as you go works out cheaper for low volume users, think how much talk time your line rental would buy, but the call charges, especially peak and to other networks are higher. But you do have a much greater degree of control on your spending which is useful. You have to consider the total costs of all your calls combined with text messages and the times of these calls to come to a realistic conclusion. WORK OUT A CALL 'PROFILE' This section only applies to current mobile users looking for a better deal. Produce a breakdown of your calls in a given month by noting whether a call is peak or off-peak; to a landline, same network or other network, voicemail or wap and apply the differing call charges and subtract the calls that would be classed as inclusive, this is
              obviously not very easy if you are a pay as you go customer or don’t receive itemised bills. This allows you to compare how much it would have cost you that particular month on other networks, price plans etc. You may well be better off on a different price plan. Equally importantly it allows you to check if it is cost effective for you to connect to a contract and benefit from a much lower initial handset price if you spread the cost over say 12 months or 18 months. If you don’t use your phone very much it is very likely that you will end up spending more in the long run on a contract, the initially high pay as you go handset price is offset by lower monthly costs. It’s different for everyone! Here are some of the features of each network. I am merely going into more detail on Orange because I use it and I think it’s the best for me. Orange Excellent coverage, free voicemail on SOME contract tariffs, lowest text messaging cost (5p on older tariffs) combined with lowest off peak call charges for calling other networks (30p peak and just 12p per min off-peak) makes this my favourite and is the one I use. (I am on Talk 150 – which has just had an extra 50 minutes added so is now Talk 200! I know that 12p per minute is the lowest off-peak rate to other mobile networks. I could change to a higher tariff but there's no point because the increased minutes are Orange and landline only. I don't want to change to one where the inclusive minutes are cross-network because I lose that all important 12p per minute! Inclusive calls can include calls to other networks. I have found Orange to be most professional at all times if a little too ‘by the book’ on occasion where I obtained a wap phone off line not from Orange and they insisted I buy a wap phone from Orange before they would wap enable my sim card. Top up pre pay phones with a £50 voucher and you get rates comparable to pay monthly contract
              phones in return. Vodafone Excellent coverage. Inclusive calls to other networks on some tariffs. BT Cellnet Cheap off peak call rates to landlines on weekends. One 2 One Free voicemail. Low call charges in general. Genie Offers free text messages (600 for contract and 300 for pay as you go) and free wap access. Pay as you go requires minimum of £10 top up every month. Virgin Free voicemail. Cashback incentive scheme. KEEP YOUR NUMBER WHEN CHANGING NETWORK For people who want to change network and want to keep their number note that is more efficiently carried out when changing to a pay monthly tariff. It is not taking as long as it used to though which is a plus. CALLING OTHER NETWORKS I found my monthly was being inflated massively by the cost of calls to other mobile networks. A simple but very effective method to reduce my monthly bill was to buy a BT Cellnet prepay sim card. I found myself calling this network a lot and my bill has halved since believe it or not! You need to check your phone is not locked to one particular network first though – one of many, many reasons for buying a phone from Carphone Warehouse – their phones are generally not sim locked. I believe if you call any of the networks regularly enough it works out considerably cheaper to have a sim card for each network and use the relevant sim card for whichever network you are calling. Don’t worry about high peak call charges, simply connect to a ‘stepped’ tariff (unless you know you will only be making off peak calls) where your first 3 minutes are charged at 25p each then any following minutes that day are around 5p each because to justify purchasing the sim card you must be planning to use the sim card often enough! Although sim only packs can be priced as high as £30 they can be found for half that price. I think it’s stupid to have to pay for a sim
              card though; it’s like paying for the privilege of going into a supermarket and spending your hard earned money there. Most networks will match the tariffs of competitors so you can effectively change to another network’s price plan without changing networks. Finally I recommend Orange on a pay monthly tariff as it is reliable, coverage is excellent, and you even get credited minutes for lost calls! The high-speed data service is excellent too. I have not had any problems or need to complain with Orange. Ratings and opinion are for my Orange service. To my knowledge Orange is the only network where 0800 freephone numbers are actually free with the exception of certain calling card numbers. Hope some of these tips were useful.

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                07.02.2002 20:37
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                In November last year the UK law changed on Telecommunications and Telephone number porting (transfer). This used to take upto 30 days but now 5 days and (supposedly) no hassle. You are now able to take your mobile phone number with you easily from one operator to another. Or also from one retailer (on the same network) to another. For Example: If you wish to move your telephone number simply contact your service provider and request your PAC code. This number is valid for 30 days from when you notify your network and it should be sent to you in the mail for your records and to make sure you have the correct number. Find the service provider you wish to use and the phone you want and simply purchase. MAKE SURE YOU EXPLAIN YOU ARE MIGRATING, PORTING or SIMPLY TAKING YOUR NUMBER WITH YOU (this is all the same). Don't let them talk you into a new number which they will tell you is easier. It is true but who wants to get the 100+ in your sim card and phone to change their details about you. Porting takes just 5 days and until then you should be able to use your old handset. The new company contact your old company for the port and they disconnect you automatically when it goes through. If the network goes past the date it is supposed to hit for the port ask for a credit against your bill. Vodaphone made a mess of mine and I was £70 better off by the time it went through. One2One charge £35 to unlock the handset on contract (I then sold my 8210 to a mate). I got the T68 (colour screen Ericsson for £70) and moved network. Vodaphone phones are already unlocked for any sim card or network - worth bearing in mind.

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                  Prepare yourselves everyone, because this isn't going to be an easy ride. The mobile phone generation has taken hold. People sitting at either end of the bus are beginning to correspond via text message, rather than shouting "Alright cocker!". Entire businesses exist only to allow you to hear the James Bond theme every time someone calls instead of a ring ring. It's getting ridiculous. So, let me get this straight, you expect me to tell you which network is the best? You want to know who's pockets to fatten as you casually throw away your hard-earned cash on unnecessary and impersonal communications? Well, my cheeky chirpy chum, that is indeed what I am here for. Rather than bore you with an endless list of tariffs and pricings, (much like all the other ops in this section - no offence lads). I'm going to help you to make up your own mind. Also, I'm not going to include any prices of any particular network, because they do change fairly frequently. Let's go. - The other day, I walked into the orange shop - - I asked for an orange. - Now, before you decide to purchase your first mobile phone, or a replacement. Make sure that you know what you're doing. There's no point in looking stupid, now, is there? Just remember, if you ask the man behind the till for advice, you're not going to get it. They're going to try and sell you something you don't need, for more money than you need to spend. First piece of advice, don't ask the man or the lady behind the till (they're both in on it). Virgin Mobile is owned by one to one, The Link only deals in BT Cellnet and Orange and a few other stores look like they are independent, stocking all four networks, are not. They are in fact receiving hefty commission whenever they sell a particular tariff/contract/phone. So stay sharp. - Horror Stories - It get's wo
                  rse. I don't have much experience with different networks, but one network above all others has a famous reputation for amazingly poor support. That is, Vodafone. I know for a fact that Vodafone do not offer any sort of technical support helpline that you can dial from a landline, you have to be using a Vodafone Mobile to get through to technical support. Not so bad? Well, picture this, your Vodafone is broken.. who can you call? no-one. I think this is appaling considering that most networks also usually charge around £1 per minute to speak to some semi-competent 15-year-old about why you can't seem to dial out... - Pricing - As far as I can tell, Virgin Mobile/One2One are by far the most expensive networks for newbies. They're going to charge you at least an extra 20 squids to purchase your telephone. Unless you nick it. - BUT! - BUT! I can see an advantage to forking out a little extra.. one2one and virgin both have a very good reputation for quality of service and cheapness of calls... so perhaps, if you're a regular user, this little extra to start with could reap you dividends in the long run? - HOWEVER! - However, you have to decide how often you are going to use your mobile. - STUPID - Orange and Vodafone. Both charge you ridiculous amounts for calls and text messages. Both have seemingly limited coverage of certain areas (orange in particular - lean out the window would ya?) and I have heard several stories about both of these networks that would make your teeth stand on end. In my personal opinion, these two networks are to be avoided. And I don't mean a flimsy little trot if you happen to spot them approaching you, I mean PROPER avoidance. Treat them as though they were rabid pitbulls with scary horns and breath of fire, and run, as fast as your prosthetic legs can carry you. Good. - BARGAIN BASEMENT - The all-time cheapo network has to be BTCellnet
                  . Calls and text's are cheaper, or as cheap as, any other non-contract mobile. They have the best coverage, and you have been able to use them abroad for donkey's years. (about 5 donkey's years to be exact). yep, BTCellnet is pretty smashing. Well, it's rubbish actually, but they all are, and BTCellnet is the least rubbish, in my opinion. Anyway. That was my worst op ever, written to keep me occupied. I think I will probably come back and delete it again, or write a poem in the middle of it and see if anyone notices. Or maybe just see how many times I can type the alphabet in an hour.. and pass it off as an op on learning to type.. either way, thanks for reading. See you some other time. Jack.

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                    There is nothing worse than buying a useless mobile. Yes I did just that. In the shop I took my time and took advice and didnt go too much by the look of the phone more for the price of calls if I am honest. So when I got my cellnet home I sorted it all out and was told the money would go on within a certain time. I took the mobile into town with me and received the money okay and made a call to my family okay showing off that I could use it. I even received a call while going to do the shopping outside of Tescos. As we have a landline we do use that a lot so I never used it in the house or around our home town. So when I did want to finally weeks later want to make a phone call from home found I didnt have a signal. To get a signal I had a 2-3 mile drive! It was then that I found out oh Fairford is awful for Cellnet phones get a vodafon they are better for this area. I know with hindsight that I should have found all this out before I bought it and checked it as soon as I go home but there goes I didnt. Make sure you do though if you are buying a mobile. Some areas are awful for reception. Vodafon in this area is so very different. I now have one of theirs. I can get a very good signal anywhere in the house and I have yet to find somewhere that I get a bad reception with it. I am not saying these are not both good phones they are. You just have to make sure that the area you live in is okay for that phone.

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                      11.08.2001 23:52
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                      We have the Nokia 3330, we had the Nokia 3310, but last year the phone that sold the most was Nokia's 3210 version of their mobile phone. I have this phone and even though it is a bit dated now, I believe it is still as good as the newest versions of the 3330 and 3310. For anyone who hasnt tried the Nokia range of mobile phones, I think you are missing quite a bit as these are without doubt the best brand of phones out there for people to buy. The phone is sleek and is very nice to look at (saying that, if people are bothered about what their phone looks like) I am not, but I dont exactly want a big phone that looks stupid. The 3210 is the right size for most people, fits in handbags, pockets and anyone else people can put their phone (sarcastic comment deleted!). The phone has very good features on it, It has a phone book for people to store names and numbers of their friends, loved ones and associates. It also has the big thing amongest phone buyers last year: text messaging. This service allows phone users to send a text based message to someone else on their phone and it doesnt matter what network or tarif they use, as long as they have a number - the message will go through. Messages are received through the inbox of the phone where a message telling the user that they have received a message is displayed, these messages stay there till they are deleted. They can be saved to the outbox though. Using the call register section, people can see the last 8 dialled numbers, last 8 received numbers and if they have missed calls as well. Settings like speed dialing and welcome notes on the phone can be changed through settings. Games are available for people who are bored and want something to do. The infamous Snake is available to play, but so is Rotation and Memory. There is other features on the phone like a calculator and an alarm clock. The major selling point of a phone, and especially the Nokia range along with text messaging
                      was the chance to set your own ringtones to ring when you get phoned by someone. These are put on the phone beforehand, but there is space for a downloaded ringtone from the Internet and a composed ringtone by the user using the composer option on the phone. I think that the Nokia 3210 is still as good as the others on the market, it isnt sold as much and that is probably cause the Nokia company want prospective buyers to buy the newer models, but last year the Nokia 3210 was the phone that everyone who wanted a phone bought, but technology does change, however the phone is still good enough for me.

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                        • "you pay for this adverts"

                        Some of the networks are starting to offer wap services for free, its about time they did as so far it has been one big rip off. Most of the operators have been charging 10p a min and more for this service and what do you really get for your money well so far not much and just one big phone bill, pay as you go seems to be the worst offender. Myself I have just started using one to one and so far it has cost me £5.00 for 2 mins of wapping most of the cost is due to the server being down and yes you have guessed it, you still pay for that pleasure. The internet is much better value and you get decent stuff to surf and visit. My challenge to the operators is to provide the service for free as they still make more than enought on text sms and other services to justify giving wap for free. What they are are offering is just not good enought its just not on!!! so far all I have got is one big advert for phone operator and nothing else of use to me. which I have to pay 10p per min for. Come on you guys get fair NOW!!! I would like all us users to find away to make them listen to us the customers, as at the moment we have no chance of making our views known unless we make our statements on sites like this.

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                        As someone who has sold mobile phones and owened them on three of the networks I am quite well qualified in this area. My current job involves speaking to people on a daily basis from all the networks. Orange win this competition hands down. In my oh so humble opinion of course. All the networks largely have similar coverage, you need to check in your area of course, but in terms of percentage of the country covered they are very similar. Tarrifs are also similar, you really must study the marketing bumf to see which network is best for you. Currently I am on a pay as you go plan with Orange as I hardly use the phone. It's cost me about £5 in calls so far this year, much cheaper than paying the usual £10 or £15 a month. Overall I would say there isn't all that much between the networks, but Orange just edge it with their superior customer service. BT Cellnet are let down by being part of a massive dinosaur of a company, One to One (including Virgin) are the opposite, slightly unproffessional as they don't seem to be big enough to cope with the demand. Vodafone are a close second to Orange, they ahve done much to improve their service and image in recent years, but still are a faceless company while Orange have that special level of service which makes you feel important as a small pawn of a customer! Of course this is just my humble opinion! None of the networks are bad, just Orange are slightly ahead!

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                          30.06.2001 22:52
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                          OK it's not the latest, it's not flashy, it doesn't cook your dinner, walk your dog and win friends and influence people, but I reckon that the One-2-One All In One deal is still pretty good. I know One-2-One doesn't always have the coverage that other networks have - but I have experienced occasions when I was the only one of a group able to make calls despite (or should that be because of ?) being with One-2-One. So what's the deal and why do I reckon it's so good ? Well, for £70 I have just picked up an ericsson T10s, 18 months line rental and 30 minutes of calls per month for these 18 months. In simpler terms here are a two ways to look at it Free phone, free connection, 30 free minutes per month (10p per min after) for less than £4 a month line rental. Or, free phone, free line rental and your first 30 minutes per month for 13p per minute with all other minutes at 10 per minute. Compared to the price of buying a Pay As You Go package, or paying monthly line rental I reckon I must be quids in over the next 18 months - some of my friends and colleagues pay £12-£15 per month for similar - 6 months max and they've paid more than me. If you want one though, you'll have to hurry up and shop around - because One-2-One are pulling the plug on this deal and there aren't many around now !!

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                          Well what can I say...... Its comes to something when we can't live without our mobile phones, but they have become a part of everyday life and they do take a huge chunk out of our income, hence the reason my partner and I decided to move from orange to Virgin. So you would think this would have been an easy thing to do think again... Back in February of this year we paid £75 for 2 phones to be unlocked so we could go over to the Virgin network with our orange numbers. The reason for wanting to move? Well cheaper calls (for my partner and I, as we call each other alot) and no line rental! So after paying £75 upfront for our phones to be unlocked which takes 7 working days, 3 months later our phones remain unlocked and in limbo. By this time Virgin had already transferred our numbers over to their network but we couldn't use our phones as orange had not unlocked them after 3 months. So after 30 or more calls (we lost count after 30) and 2 weeks solid on the landline trying to chase orange to see "what the hell was going on" we eventually got our phones unlocked. Me and my partner "manned" the phone waiting for these idiots to call us back and out of all the calls we made we received about 2 calls back from orange. We sat on the phone for hours at a time we went from customer service rep to their supervisor to the supervisors supervisor and so on and so on, and nobody was prepared to tell us what had gone wrong, why and what they were going to do to help us. So eventually I called OFTEL and then orange got a little bit better. Apparently orange only have 1 technician in their unlocking department to unlock all the phones in Great Britain - WHATEVER! We could not leave our home (waiting for someone from orange to call, which rarely happened) and spent all day and night for 2 weeks on the phone to orange. I eventually got cheques to the sum of £26 to cover the cost of calls made to orange (and had to make many mo
                          re calls to get these cheques.) Its a vicious circle! Our phones did get unlocked by the very unhelpful "I've got an attitude problem and I'm a big fat liar who never answers my emails that the rest of the orange customer support team sends to me saying URGENT" technician. We were harrassed, lied to ignore, ripped off and intimidated by this world famous network provider. And with all the staff and technology they have they still couln't help us. Oh yeah and get this apparently the technicians do not have a phone! I find that very hard to believe don't you? As it goes, Virgin was just as bad as orange. My partners phone dropped off the Virgin network a month after moving from orange, they did get his number back onto the network the same day. My number dropped off the network the day after, unfortunately 3 sim cards, all my numbers lost (not my fault) and a week and half on the blower Virgin could not get my number back onto the network! That was OK because Virgin network is RUBBISH! Couldn't get a bloomin signal. So I needed a phone and a number and I was not prepared to "try" any other networks cause apparently the other other networks are just as crappy as Virgin so with my tail between my legs I had to go back to orange! After all they have the best network (they really do) plus they were offering a really smart new phone with new contracts and a good talk plan and blah, blah, blah.... Oh well I'm just a gluten for nice little gadgets that co-ordinate with my wardrobe. At the end of the day I think its just down to luck! But while the "FAT PIG" bossed at various mobile phone networks are getting richer and richer we are getting taken for a ride so my advice is if you can do without a mobile phone then good for you! Unfortunately for me I need one for my job...... Happy mobile phone hunting!

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                            My guide to mobile ‘Pay as you go’ tariffs: I have tried to include as much information as possible and have tried to be un-biased where possible. I hope that this helps in some way if you are thinking of buying a mobile phone and looking for the right tariff to suit you. You may notice that I haven’t included Orange, but have no fear it will be done and reasons for not doing so at this time are on the bottom. Virgin Call charges: These include standard calls to national and local land lines, calls to other Virgin mobiles, using the Virgin WAP service (provided you have a WAP phone) and calls to free phone numbers (0800) unless they are listed with Virgin and then they will be free of call cost. There is no service charges with Virgin and what you put on your phone will go to all calls with no hidden extras. Peak rate: 15p per minute for the first 5 minutes and then 5p per minute there after for the rest of the day. Off peak rate: 15p per minute for the first 5 minutes and then 5p per minute there after for the rest of the day. Weekends: 15p per minute for the first 5 minutes and then 5p per minute there after for the rest of the day. Other calls: Text messages: 10p per message sent. Voice mail retrieval: Free provided you have credit on your phone. Pre recorded information service: Free The Virgin team: 10p for each call, no matter how long or short the call is. 0845 and 0345 numbers: 10p per minute. Calls to other mobile networks: 35p per minute Calls to outside the UK: The Republic of Ireland, Isle of Man, Jersey and Guernsey: 15p per minute. US, Canada, Australia and New Zealand: 20p per minute. Europe and some Asian countries: 40p per minute. Other countries: 80p per minute. To top up your phone you can either buy a airtime voucher from most shops, online
                            using a debit or credit card, via you phone and keypad to type in the relvant numbers of credit/debit card or code on voucher or over the phone. Airtime is then added pretty quick well within 30 seconds. Choice of phones: They do have quite a few phones to choose from but it all depends what you are after. Phones will cost anything from £39.99 to £ 299.99 for basic models to ones that have modems, infrared interface, personal organisers etc. All included in the price is a service pack, which is basically your sim card to connect you to the Virgin network along with £5 worth of calls. Summary -------- Most suited for a person who doesn’t use a mobile too often, but makes long phone calls when they do use it any time of the day. http://www.virginmobile.com One2One Call charges: These include call to local and national land lines, and calls to other One2One mobiles. Peak rate: 30p per minute for the first two minutes and then 5p per minute there after for the rest of the day. Off peak rate: 30p per minute for the first two minutes and then 5p per minute there after for the rest of the day. Weekends: 30p per minute for the first two minutes and then 5p per minute there after for the rest of the day. There is no service charges with One2One pay as you go and what you put on your phone will go to all calls with no hidden extras. Other calls: Text message: Free as it is all inclusive. Voice mail retrieval: Free Service calls: Free Calls to other mobile networks: 30p per minute. WAP: 10p per minute for access to the WAP service. Choice of phones: They didn’t really have that many to choose from on the pay as you go tariff, but what they did have was a nice selection from the ones available. Phones will cost from £69.99 to £169.99. All phones on the pay as you go tari
                            ff include £10 of free calls £3 in box and a further £7 when you register the phone. For more choice of phones then you may want to look into a contract phone with monthly charges and a range of packages to suit. Summary ---------- If you like to send lots of text messages then this is the phone for you. Also if you tend to make call during the day then it is also ideal. http://www.one2one.co.uk BTCellnet Call charges: All charges are calls to local and national landlines. Peak rate: 25p per minute. Off peak rate: 10p per minute. Weekends: 2p per minute There is no service charges with BTCellnet and what you put on your phone will go to all calls with no hidden extras. Other calls: Text messages: 10p per message sent. Voice mail retrieval: 10p per minute. Calls to other BTCellnet mobiles: 10p per minute peak and off peak and 2p per minute weekends. Calls to other mobile networks: 50p per minute peak rate, 25p per minute off peak and at weekends. Mobile internet calls: 10p per minute. Choice of phones: Again not many phones to choose from but they do have very cheap WAP phones starting from as little as £29.99 and their most expensive phone, which is a Nokia 3310 for £129.99. All phones come with £5 of calling credit upon activation. Summary ---------- The ideal mobile network if you like to use your phone in the evenings and weekends and great if you have a lot of friends and family who have BTCellnet mobiles. Also if you are looking for a cheap WAP phone and the tariff is just right for you, you won’t go far wrong with this one. http://www.btcellnet.co.uk Vodafone SMARTSTEP ---------------- With Vodafone Smartstep there are no extra cost to you and all the credit you put on your phone goes to t
                            he cost of calls. Call charges: All charges refer to local and national calls to landlines, calls to other Vodafone mobiles and voicemail. Peak rate: 25p per minute for the first three minutes and then 5p per minute there after. Off peak rate: 25p per minute for the first three minutes and then 5p per minute there after. Weekends: 25p per minute for the first three minutes and then 5p per minute there after. Other calls: Help line: 25p per call no matter how long or short the call is. Text message: 10p per message. Calls to other mobile networks: 40p per minute. ALL CALLS --------------- Just like Smartstep there are no hidden charges and the credit you put on your phone goes all on calls. Call charges: Included national and local calls to landlines, calls to other Vodafone mobiles and voicemail. Peak rate: 35p per minute. Off peak rate: 10p per minute. Weekends: 10p per minute in the daytime and 5p per minute in the evening. Other calls: Help line: 25p per call. Calls to other mobile networks: 50p per minute peak times and 30p per minute at all other times. Text message: 10p per message sent. Choice of phones: Well not much to choose from for the Smartstep or All Calls option and all the phones with the exception of the Nokia 3310 looks quite frankly crap. The cost of the phones are rather expensive for example one of the cheapest phones which is a Mar Trium would set you back £69.99 and the most expensive being a Nokia 3310 of course. All phones come with up to £10 of calling credit, £2.50 pre-loaded into the phone and £7.50 upon registration. Summary ------------ Not my personal choice and would work out quite expensive unless you make long anytime calls with Smartstep or weekend call with All Calls. What I do like and the only thing I like is being able to
                            switch tariff free of charge provided it is done with in seven days of purchase, if the current tariff is not right for you after that there will be a £5 charge. PAY AS YOU TALK ORIGINAL ----------------------------------------- With pay as you talk original you get a service charge and it would work out to a £10 charge every 60 days for services charges. Call charges: Include calls to national and local landlines and calls to other Vodafone mobiles. Peak rate: 35p per minute. Off peak rate: 5p per minute. Weekends: 2p per minute. Other calls: Calls to other mobile networks: 50p per minute peak rate, and 30p per minute off peak and weekend calls. Help line: 25p per call no matter how long or short the call last. Choice of phones: Well not much to choose from, well basically it appears the same as the Smartstep or All Calls phones. All phones come with up to £10 of calling credit, £2.50 pre-loaded into the phone and £7.50 upon registration. Summary ------------ Hmmmmmm, the calls are cheap, well for weekends and evenings but then you have the service charge on top of all that, and there was me thinking that service charges got abolished! http://www.vodafone.co.uk I would have done one on Orange but it is all to confusing with there no eeak in peak, so I will update this when my head isn’t buzzing and my brain starts working again. I cannot believe that it has taken me so long, what the hell possessed me to write this opinion is beyond me, I must have been bored. Overall choice: As you may gather I am with Virgin and for me it is just right, so given all the knowledge ticking in my head out of all of them I would choose Virgin again as I make calls during the day and receive many voice mails. On the other hand if I used my phone in the evenings and weekends then it would ha
                            ve to be BTCellnet not only for the low call rates, but it has no other charges that I can see and they provide lots of phones with many features for surprisingly cheap prices. Please note that the fields below represent Virgin as that is the tariff I am on.

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                              I have had a One2One mobile for about 5 years. I am now jsut about to change my mobile and at the same time my provider to Orange. This has not been a decision easily arrived at. I am generally quite slow to change service provider of any service; phone, digital TV, doctor etc. I believe that One2One clearly offer the best tariffs available for the casual user. They offer a lot of inclusive minutes in their packaged for low cost and it is only recently that other network have begun to copy them. However, One2One's network, whilst not appalling, does lag behind the other networks. When I compare my coverage and signal to that of my friends I generally find that they have better signals. Despite the poor signal quality of One2One I would not have chosen to move save for one vital fact - Orange allow you to take up any existing Network tariff with them. So now I can have my cake and eat it. Not only can I join the more reliable service of Orange, I can also obtain a One2One tariff from Orange giving me the inclusive minutes I so crave for my wife to call her friends. One further point I would add in the war between Orange and One2One - it seems to me that Orange have one the battle to appear that sexier more upper-class option. One2One came into the market as a cheaper, freeer option. Unfortunately, to my mind, that image has stuck with them. One2One need an image and a network makeover. I believe that they have just signed a deal with BT Cellnet regarding antennae sharing. Perhaps this will solve their network problems. Unfortunately it is too late for me and my mind is made up - Orange here I come.

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