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      08.03.2009 17:31
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      theres no point to them anymore

      Boybands/Girlbands

      This is a topic that gets under my skin and makes me want to tear myself apart in the most gruesome way ever.

      What is the point of Girl/Boybands anymore? It's all about Hip-Hop Rap and this stupid MC which you can't even understand even they are a waste of space!

      About 6-7 years ago yes Girl/Boybands were good in their own little way but now as some people would say they are "Lame".

      I admit Take That are good but they aren't cheesy anymore they don't have the ridiculous hair cuts or really goofy smile, They are normal if you could say.
      I think it is backstreet boys that have just re-formed and my honest oppinion is they wont last long.
      Westlife they were a good band they had some good singles but where are they now? who still likes them?

      Some Girlbands I know are Sugarbabes and Girls Aloud...They make me want to pull my hair out, Girls Aloud don't have talent in my eyes, They won a Contest and it made them famous...If they had talent they could have done it by themselves not got someone to judge them and help them make it famous.
      Sugarbabes they also used to be a good band but they just arent the same anymore since there is only one origonal member there the latest addition to the Sugarbabes doesn't sound right she is a little too posh when she sings ber voice just doesnt mesh well with the others.
      Spice Girls these were a good band until they split up they had good voices and all their music had good beats that kept you interested unlike some others.

      I don't think anymore Girl/Boybands should be made they are a waste of time nobody listens to that stuff anymore its either Rock, Country(Which is slowly falling) R'n'B that type of stuff.
      Most of the boybands only made it because the producers probably thought they were "Cute" and that half of the female population would be attracted to them...*Gags*
      Why on earth would anybody be attracted to them? with a faces like theirs they'd be lucky if my great nan was attracted to them.

      You have seen briefly what i think of some bands and I should now tell you that if the Boy/Girlband population increases again i think that i would cry seriously it would be the end of the world as we know it.
      There underground bands out there that have potential and if they are good enough maybe they would change my views but for now I'm determined that Boy/Girlbands are useless and don't need to be around anymore...as some would say
      "Get With The Times" yes i think that phrase fits nicely

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        27.11.2002 16:52
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        Every time I turn on the radio or TV I am confronted with an annoying, irritating tosser that seems to think he is really big and clever. I am bombarded with teenyboppers and girls approaching their 30's telling me just how sexy this tosser is. I don't care if you fancy him, IT DOESN'T GIVE YOU AN EXCUSE TO BUY HIS FRIGGIN' ALBUM! Then there are the trendy perfume boys who live in little worlds of their own, crooning along tunelessly to the mediocre crap on said tossers album. I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE!!! This is a man who was in Take That for christ sakes! And also, he got Maori tattoos without going through the painful Maori initiation ceremony that gives you the right to have them. Not that i'd expect much else from a FAKE ARSEHOLE! I hope some Maoris rip his friggin head off. No, seriously, I am going to throw a week long party the day that Robbie dies. You are all invited. To summarise, I have decided to compare Robbie to Slayer- 10 reasons why slayer are better than Robbie Williams 1. Slayer are extremely talented musicians. Robbie can't even be described as a musician. 2. Slayer write their own music. Robbie is a second rate karaoke singer. 3. Slayer get the crowd moving. Robbie gets 12 year old girls wet. 4. Slayer write songs about religion, war etc. Robbie sings weak ballads written by other people. 5. Tom Araya bellows with passion and conviction. Robbie croons with smug arrogance. 6. Slayer are respected worldwide. Nobody outside the UK pondlife has heard of Robbie Williams. 7. Nobody in Slayer has ever been in a boyband. 8. Kerry Kings tattoos are much cooler than Robbies. 9. Robbie wouldn't have got anywhere if he wasn't a prettyboy. Slayer are a bunch of ugly gits. 10. Robbie wouldn't last two seconds in a fight against any one of Slayer. I would just like to add that I hate Robbie Williams because he is an arrogant, twat who is cho
        ck full o' shit. His music is nothing more than popular, populist, commercial, watered down, middle of the road, braindead pap for the drooling masses.

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          06.08.2002 07:01
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          In a few weeks time, the phenomena of Pop Idol and Popstars will strike again!! Get ready.. this time organisers are planning on launching two new bands which will compete for the number one spot on our Christmas charts, most probably sitting at numbers one and two. But is there a need for MORE boybands and girlbands? Remember 'New Kids On The Block' or 'Bananarama'? Perhaps many remember such artists but who actually still holds one of their records (with pride) in their music collection? Compare this to the millions who are proud to state they own a copy of 'Abbey Road' or 'The Immaculate Collection' and who consider these purchases as money well spent. Why lauch a new popband when there are plenty of struggling, talented artists itching to get record deals? The truth is there is lots of money to be made from boybands and girlbands. Not only do such bands the singles chart, but often their images sell merchandise all over the world. Record companies are not obliged to pay them as large a cut on their music sales, since the band members don't tend to write (and sometimes even sing) the songs themselves. Even so, any boy/girlband member will automatically be elevated to the class B celebrity list, given free designer clothing, and if successful enough will earn a very tidy salary. The spice girls each walked out of the band with over ten million!Can you imagine...? They may not be capable of producing music that we will even remember from one year to the next, but the Boygirl / Grilband phenomenon is one that is fuelled by every person who has ever danced to Atomic Kitten, hummed along to Take That or learnt the lyrics to SClub7. As a nation, we like to indulge in fantasy, and boygirl/girlband successes provide us with just this. A group of young, beautiful people, all able to sing/dance and utimately satisfy our sexual apetite. The public and music industry is fickle, glamour-loving and imp
          atient, and his is why in my opinion boybands and girlbands will always be present. The bands serve an especially important part of teenage development, with schoolchildren of all ages pondering over who really is their favourite Westlife member, and many daydreaming about one day meeting these individuals. Children value such bands, and if they are to become the next generation of adults, it looks as if the boyband is here to stay! My money is on the girlband getting the Xmas number one - with the publicity grabbing Geri Halliwell as their mentor, I have no doubt they will succeed. And for all those who don't like boyband/girlband music... don't buy it, and if you can help it, don't let your children buy it either!!

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            25.06.2002 22:57
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            What are the purposes of girl bands? They are there for girls to aspire to and for guys to ogle. What are the purposes of boy bands? for girls to scream at them for no apparent reason but yet still adore them. And why do they ogle and adore? Because of their looks. Their music comes second. For as long as i have been aware of the pop world, there have been boy bands as i knew of the very first boy band - New Kids On The Block. From them generated so many spawns and then the girl bands sprung up too. Take That, Backstreet Boys, *N-Sync, Eternal, Atomic Kitten, Sugababes, Spice Girls to name just a few off the top of my head and there are so many more it would take years to name them all. They all are good looking people and have the energy to cope with long extensive tours of the continent. Whether they can sing or not is not an issue. If they can sing it is known as a bonus. Instrument playing is not something they have to worry about because there will be too much dancing about on stage to have time to sit down and play an instrument and show musical ability. This is because of the record companies drive to get more money out of youngsters which is who these "idols" are aimed at. Their music will be bland in the sense that it will be a up beat cheesy pop tune or a slow love ballad that has everyone singing along to the "catchy" chorus and each member will have a different personailty, therefore appealing to all different types of girls who will argue which band member is best and why. There is no need to explore different areas of music and their wholesome image must be maintained. If not only one member will be like this, the "bad boy or girl" of the group, therefore fitting a stereotype that the record company wants of them to be. Theres no originality in the image that they give, they all are copycats of each other and while the gap in the market is there, there will always be boybands and girlbands b
            ecause the youngsters who haven't broaden their musical horizons demand them

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              19.06.2002 17:48
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              I’ve always been a fan of pure pop, particularly boy/girl bands. Their cheeky, fun songs and easy-to-learn dance moves have made them a hit with people of all ages and backgrounds. Although most popular with teenagers, these pop groups can be enjoyed by everyone, because they provide a bit of light entertainment in our lives. Ok, so they’re not the most talented people in the world. But Pop Gods such as Pete Waterman and Simon Fuller have created some of the best pop groups in the history of British music, including the Spice Girls. **The Spice Girls- a success story?** In their heyday, the Spice Girls notched up number 1 hits after number 1 hits, and they had the time of their lives: They travelled the world, promoting their music and extensive collections of merchandise, and became famous world-wide. It was phenomenal. The press dubbed it ‘Spice Mania’, and the 5 girls were idols to teenage girls, and goddesses to teenage boys. But the success was fairly short-lived: For almost 3 years, they were continuously at the top of all the music charts in the world, but a group of 20-something women with nicknames such as ‘Baby’ and ‘Sporty’ had to wear thin at some point. In her bid for ‘artistic freedom’, Geri (‘Ginger Spice’) left, which left the remaining 4 girls in turmoil. Since then, their record sales slowly but surely diminished, and are now completely out of the music business (apart from solo projects). Every Spice Girl’s face is still recognised throughout the world, due to their massive success. However, fame can corrupt and ruin people’s lives: - Geri Halliwell has suffered from depression and bulimia since she left the Spice Girls. However, she has been the most successful ‘Solo Spice’, with 4 number 1s under her size-6 belt. - Victoria Beckham (‘Posh Spice’) has also suffered from various eating disorders,
              but now lives happily in ‘Beckingham Palace’ with her super-rich footballer hubbie David Beckham. - ‘Sporty Spice’ Melanie Chisolm has also had a pretty tough time since the group’s reign as the world’s biggest girl group ended. Like Geri, she has suffered from depression and problems with her weight. In my opinion, the Spice Girls phenomenon was just too much too soon: The pressures of fame damaged three of the girls’ lives as I’ve mentioned above. Many people will argue that they bring it on themselves, by desperately seeking fame and fortune, but surely they deserve to live normal lives? The problem with being in a successful boy/girl band is the public and media attention which comes with it: Paparazzi invading lives, stalkers…All these people want to do is entertain! Robbie Williams, who is now Britain’s favourite male solo artist, was part of the 90s boy band Take That. He joined when he was just 16 years old. I’m 17, and I couldn’t imagine being able to cope with continuously being in the limelight at that age. And neither could he: A few years later, he was supposedly sacked from the band, after dabbling in drugs and regularly going to wild parties. Most of these teenagers just can’t hack it: They are brought into such an elusive business at such a young age, and it not only takes away their childhood, but possibly their sanity too. Ok, so not all boy/girl bands end it tears. Like I’ve said, the Spice Girls were huge, as were Take That. There have been a number of success stories: -All Saints -a1 -Westlife The list is endless. But there has also been a fair share of ‘wannabes’ too. TV programmes like Popstars have encouraged this new fad in recent years. Of course- everyone would love to be a pop star, wouldn’t they? Fame, fortune, admiration…But there’s always the downside too, and so man
              y people experience the latter. **Wannabes** The Spice Girls have got to be the biggest girl group ever. They were original. But since they disappeared from the music business, other ‘girl power’ bands have been manufactured: Remember Girl Thing, whose first music video was a complete carbon copy of the Spice Girls’ ‘Wannabe’? There was a ‘cute one’, a ‘naughty one’, a ‘feisty one’…We’d seen it all before! It’s no wonder that they didn’t get very far! Ok, so the Spice Girls were a pretty tough act to follow, but what’s the point in creating another-less better-group who are almost identical?! Not all girl groups went down the Spice route: There were quite a few All Saints copycats, such as Precious, who represented the UK in the Eurovision Song Contest. Their aim was to break away from the happy, cheesy pop that girl/boy bands are known for, and instead went for a more ‘sophisticated’ sound. Unfortunately for them, the plan to be ‘different’ didn’t work, and the group kinda fell apart after a while. One of its members, Jenny Frost, later went on to join Atomic Kitten. They are now Britain’s most successful girl band, and have had great success in the charts with several top-ten hits and two number 1s. But it’s not only the girl groups who desperately wanted to live up to the success of one of their predecessors: Like I mentioned before, Take That were massive, and a huge amount of boy bands have been created since they split up. As most of them were quite insignificant, I can’t remember them, but here’s a few to refresh your memory: 911, 5ive, a1…These are just a few of the more successful groups! Admittedly, their music was different to one another’s, but the basic formula was the same: A few 20-something lads dancing around and belting out ‘heartfelt
              ’ and ‘soulful’ lyrics. The more cringeworthy groups were ones like Northern Line and Point Break, who hardly had any talent, and were just a marketing scheme for big-wig producers. But as negative as I am about girl/boy bands and the way they are manufactured, you will find the odd a1 and Spice Girls CDs in my collection (amongst others). Pathetic, isn’t it? **Why do people listen to-and buy-manufactured rubbish?** As I’ve said, I am a pop fan. Basically, I just enjoy the happy nature of the music, although I know that it’s not particularly clever or interesting. I suppose you could call me gullible. However, there are a good few million of gullible people in the UK alone, who buy these girl/boy band records. Ok, so most of them will be below 20 years of age, making teenagers the prime target. These popstars need to appear fun, talented and nice to look at. The latter being the most important factor. In a girl/boy band, there’s always a couple of good-looking ones, who just stand around and don’t really do much, as they are just there for show! Then there’s usually a ‘fat one’ (Gary Barlow being a fab example), and maybe one who’s always getting into trouble and causing problems for the rest of the group. In the twisted music business, people often aren’t initially chosen for their singing ability, but just for their look. For example, Billie Piper was seen in a Smash Hits advertisement by record producers, who wanted to sign her up even before they’d heard her sing! Now, where’s the sense in that?! Of course, the technology is so good these days, that they can make anyone sound alright. And they’ll never get found out because they just mime when they perform on stage! Nonetheless, although these facts are pretty much well-known, girl/boy bands still very much dominate the charts. **Who’s successful today?** <
              br>*Girl groups* Atomic Kitten started out in 1999, and burst onto the scene with their energetic first single ‘Right Now’. The single did ok, reaching number 10 in the charts. Their next single, ‘See Ya’ reached number 6, which made people realise that they were one to look out for. However, their next two singles didn’t match the success of ‘See Ya’, and they were rumoured to have been dropped by their record company. But at the start of 2001, with new member Jenny Frost in tow, their fifth single ‘Whole Again’ went to the top of the charts. This single saved the Kittens’ career, and they have since gone from strength to strength with another number 1 ‘Eternal Flame’ and their most recent hit ‘It’s Ok’. They’re so popular that they even performed at the Jubilee concert at Buckingham Palace, which it quite honourable some might say! I told you this little story to show how fickle the pop world can be, and how perfectly good bands can be sacked at the drop of a hat if all their singles don’t go to number 1. Ok, so Atomic Kitten certainly aren’t the most talented of bands, but they must be doing something right! The Sugababes are another example of a girl group bouncing back from defeat. They were dropped by their record company when their singles weren’t faring too well in the charts. Bet they were kicking themselves when they heard that their single ‘Freak Like Me’, had reached number 1. Their style is feisty, and they seem to have genuine talent which sets them apart from the usual style of girl groups. Another popular girl group today is Mis-Teeq, who have notched up a good few top-5 hits in the past year or so. Although their music is slightly different to groups like Atomic Kitten, it’s still basically pop. *Boy bands* Blue are a relatively new group, who really have made a massive impact on t
              he music charts. Already, two of their singles have reached number 1, and the other two have also done well. I like Blue, as they’re a bit different to other groups: Their style is still mainly pop, but with a hint of r ‘n’ b. What’s interesting about Blue is that they appeal to both females and males. Now, there’s a first! Blue’s worst enemy a1 are still riding high in the charts. They’ve been going for about 4 years now, and have changed their style from pure pop to a bit more mature. They now play their own instruments, which is a refreshing change. Although I’m not really into their music, I admire a1 for branching out slightly. They even sing live on stage! Westlife are another group who show a bit of talent: The lads really can sing, and although their songs are all quite similar, it’s nice to know that there are a few talented people in the business! Westlife have had huge success, with about 50 consecutive number 1s. Ok, so I’m exaggerating, but I’m not sure of the exact number. I suppose you’ve noticed that I’ve concentrated on British bands. Well, the USA have always ruled over us in the music strakes, and every British artist knows that the USA is an incredibly difficult industry to break in to. Many British bands just can’t compete with such huge groups as the Backstreet Boys, and N’Sync. Destiny’s Child are another massive US group, and they really do rule the roost. Now, I’m not really a fan of any of these groups. But as the most powerful country in the world, their music also takes first place, Unfortunately. **Conclusion** Well, there’s my opinion on girl/boy bands. With the new fad in nu-metal and punk bands such as Linkin’ Park and Sum 41 ever increasing in popularity, will there still be room for girl/boy bands in the future? Let’s hope so. As cheesy and talentless as they can be, they
              217;re mainly a bit of fun, and I hope that the ever-popular formula is here to stay.

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                20.04.2002 19:34
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                Planet Pop is a bizarre place. Teenagers with stammers and problem children from Australian soap operas can all bring in the big bucks for the record companies with their indescribable talents. However, one way in which record companies invariably try the 'next-big-thing' trick is to launch another girlband or boyband. Of course, there have been many boybands and girlbands who have cropped up without the help of a pop svengali, such as The Beatles, The Stones and Bananarama. However, there has been a tendency since the likes of New Kids On The Block and Take That to try and engineer each group for a particular market. When they get it right, they get it right (Spice Girls, Boyzone, All Saints and Westlife made their managers very, very happy). However, for every Victoria Beckham and Ronan Keating, there are about 100 also-rans, who spit bile in to the Burger King Whoppers they're making every time they hear 'Wannabe'. This list salutes you all, who brightened up Planet Pop for about 30 seconds before fading into obscurity... (Obviously, this category is about boy/girl bands, but under the Sexual Discrimination Act 1967, I also feel obliged to allow a few mixed bands to slip in...). 10 - Precious (Eurovision!) Precious were a five-piece female band put together to make an assault at the Eurovision song contest. Amongst their number were TV presenter Crystal Rose's daughter, and Jenni Frost, who later went on to join Atomic Kitten. After winning the BBC's 'Song For Europe' campaign, they went on to proudly represent their country. However, the live bit wasn't their strong point, and with the lead singer's voice being so flat, you could almost see someone pouring maple syrup on it and eating it on Shrove Tuesday, they finished a dismal 16th, behind the giants of Macedonia and Bosnia. Despite hitting the Top 10 with this song, called 'Say It Again', and the follow-up <
                br>9;Rewind' doing OK too, they were dropped, and we never heard of again. The curse of Eurovision strikes once again! 9 - Six Chix (Old Women!) Jonathan King has had to answer a lot of charges as of late. However, he should have been lynched a long time before he did for assembling this smorgasbord of dullards. The idea was simple. Put together 6 generations of women, and everyone will find someone that they can relate to. Therefore we had a teenager, complete with school uniform a la Britney Spears, right up to a 50-something mature lady who looked as though she was a resserected Helen Daniels. Only one of them sang the song though, although her ever-so slightly masculine voice made the whole thing look like a bit of a freak show. Their first (and only) song was put forward for Eurovision, and naturally received all the attention of the press. However, they didn't even get past the first post, and they were bizarrely enough, never heard of again... 8 - Thunderbugs (European!) Another new Spice Girls but without any kind of interseting feature, the Thunderbugs were launched as the next big thing in the late 90's. I remember that they made a very big point of stating that they were pan-European (a trick A1 repeated at around the same time), and could speak several different languages. Sadly, the language of music didn't seem to be anyone's mother tongue, as a Lisa Loeb look-alike yelped out a sub-Corrs ditty about being mates (called 'Forever Friends', but may as well have come with the tagline wannabe 'Wannabe'). Yes, they may have had a drummer, but they were so unmemorable that when the 'Bugs were squatted from their label after their next single failed to hit the Top 40, nobody batted an eyelid. 7 - 2/3rds (Anonymous!) In the days of Take That and East 17, there were several attempts at launching boybands, such as Menergy and E-Male (wonder what names th
                ey rejected before coming up with those?!). However, 2/3rds were more in the mould of the Pet Shop Boys. With 3 members, they only allowed the press to interview two of them. Sexually ambiguous with a peculiar sense of dress, they weren't exactly going to rub oil over their naked bodies a la Howard and Jason, or boast about taking 10 E's in one night. No, they were more likely to say something cryptic and wait for the reporter to get all flustered. They didn't sell many records, but for a moment, the mould was broken. The fact it didn't work despite the huge investment behind them probably goes to show that maybe a bit of baby oil and simpleness does go a long, long way... 6 - Hepburn (Moody!) Named after Audrey Hepburn (they have class and a knowledge of cinema!), Hepburn were an indie-pop crossover (they played instruments!) who had quite a big hit with 'I Quit'. This was actually going to be Natalie Imbruglia's debut before she changed her mind about it. It mentioned the word 'cigarettes' and tried to be very superior. It was a minor hit as was their follow-up 'Bugs' which may have been taken to be a cheeky side-swipe at the European no-hoper Thunderbugs. However, Hepburn were soon thrown down the pop-dumper chute, and were never heard of again. Their lead singer tried to make a comeback earlier this year, and even blagged an appearance on CD:UK. The chart position? Well, let's just say that its chart position was probably more than the number of copies that it sold... 5 - Point Break Point Break were a trio who used to be in Byker Grove, although after Donna Air, Ant and Dec had graced the Geordie youth club. Like Hepburn, they tried to be quality act with real instruments, but still found themselves aimed at 8 year olds. They struggled on for a few singles, before they were put-down by there record company to join Spuggy and the other Grovers working at a chippi
                e in Sou th Shields. Still, unlike Northern Line (who went naked in a last-ditch attempt to get sales), at least they still had their dignity... 4 - Scooch (Steps Two!) Steps were one of the shock success stories of the late 90's, selling millions with the same song. Abba on speed, was how svengali Pete Waterman described it. Well, it was certainly music you'd only listen to if you were on some sort of narcotic. However, the formula was repeated with Scooch, although because there were FOUR and not FIVE, how could you possibly accuse them of being a cash-in of the success of the Steppers. Quite... Sadly, there was only enough room in the charts for one bunch Abba speed-freaks, and there didn't appear to be much demand for a band who looked if they'd been cooked for too long (they made Judith Chalmers look like a porcelein doll by comparison...). 3 - Boom! (Steps, er, Three!) Steps were one of the shock success? hang on a minute, I'm getting a bit of déjà vu here. Boom! entered the Pop Lounge just as Scooch were picking up their P45's. A SIX piece band (NOT to be confused with a fellow one-syllabled pop act, because there was only FIVE of them!), they had a minor 'hit' with 'Falling', and had a dance routine where they all seemed to suffer from both lumbago and rickets at the same time. Because the kids don't like health disorders, they never really took to them, despite blanket coverage on CD:UK, The Box etc etc. One member, who ended up dating Lisa from Steps, went on to replace Kym in Hear'Say. The others presumably went to join Scooch et al in the local DSS. 2 - 21st Century Girls (Teenage Angst!) "Who buys pop records? Teenage girls. So, what better thing to do than to get a group of teenage girls to sing together! They'll all be good friends, and we'll give them nicknames, a bit like the Spice Girls, but more feisty! Like Mel C, b
                ut without ta ttoos and depression! What year is it? 1999? Wow, Millenium next year - let's incorporate this into the band's name! Surely its gonna be massive! They can play all their own instruments and they'll have a lead singer that looks like Lauren Laverne, but is really obnoxious! Everybody will love them. EVERYBODY WILL LOVE ME!" Simon Fuller must have been having one of those days when he stumbled upon this idea in the windmill of his mind. The band were a group of 15 year olds who sang, er, about themselves on the debut (another case of the wannabe like 'Wannabe' methinks...). However, there was a problem. It didn't have a tune, and their drummer held the drumsticks like they were some sort of juggling baton. They played their guitars (2 chords only) and sang moodily about wearing make-up. Big money was invested in them, and they duly compensated with a #16 chart position. Their management repented all of their sins, and they were back to school before we got to Y2K?...D- I reckon? 1 - Girl Thing (Spice Girls without Attitude!) No list of pop failures could be complete with this disaster. Over 1 million pounds were invested in Girl Thing in 2000. It had been 4 years since the Spice Girls were launched, and popularity was waning. A breath of fresh air was needed, perhaps? Girl Thing were the carbon copy Spice Girls. There were 5 of them, they both had their own 'personalities', they sang about themselves, and they even had the sporty one doing a back-flip in the video a la Mel C in, er, 'Wannabe'. They got absolutely everywhere, including up many people's noses, with their horrendous 'Last One Standing' which seemed to be on TV every day for 3 months before it was released. Despite the investment, it crawled to #8, making it one of the most expensive flops in pop history. The brakes were hastily put on them, and their second song, with no promotion
                whatsoever, crawle d in to the mid 20's in the charts. They were dropped from their record label quicker than a hot potato and were never heard of again. An expensive mistake that I'd like to think changed the way the pop business worked... ...however, I am blatantly wrong about this. We have recently had 3SL regurgitate 'Keep On Movin' by 5ive and become reasonably successful with it. We have Hear'Say and Liberty X also flying the pop flag for the UK. In fact, it's been done so many times, that anyone could write a guide to being in a boy/girl band. So I have... If you wannabe in a boy/girl band you gotta: 1 - Have a characteristic that it is possible to exploit in merchandise, i.e. sporty, cute or all-action hero. DO NOT have a past history of mental illness that may come to the fore when Dani Behr wants to know whether you prefer boxers of briefs of Saturday morning TV 2 - Have connections in the industry, i.e. have a sister in Steps, or a footballing husband. DO NOT reveal these connections if the person in question is in prison for assualt 3 - Have a plastic smile and perfect teeth. DO NOT have a bog-eye 4 - Have a catchy tune about love or friendship that gets better with every listen. DO NOT sing about suicide or maiming. 5 - Be kind and interested when presenters keep asking you the same inane questions. DO NOT have a fist-fight with Cat Deeley

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                  They should all be locked in a room, tied up and then fed to Slipknot fans with chainsaws - Advantages: So much fun to slag off - Disadvantages: Can't even write their own songs, never mind sing em!, Window dressing (why is there five members in a band when only two sing?), All exactly the same!

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                  As I previously predicted, I got a lot of mixed reception earlier regarding this op, so I’m going to update it in the hope that my argument will not get beaten about my head again… Okay this is an argument that I positively LOVE! So here we go…I expect to receive a mixed reception because of this but who gives a rip? I’m going to speak my mind and to hell with the consequences. First off, I’m not against all Boybands/Girlbands, what I am against though is the concept of a manufactured band…I absolutely LOATHE the idea! Okay fair enough, this method of giving us superstars has performed quite well in the past, examples being ‘Take That’, ‘Boyzone’ and more recently ‘Westlife’, but still I’m not convinced. Recent shows such as ‘Pop stars’ absolutely sicken me…what I don’t see is talent, what is see is a bunch of posers with a little bit of singing talent, who are too bloody lazy to try and make it the honest way by forming a band or singing gigs. It actually really angers me to know that there is an awful lot of REAL talent out there who are trying hard to make it the hard way, but unfortunately may not be what is considered as ‘attractive’ enough or ‘fashionable’ enough to get a look in! What sickens me even more is the fact that most of today’s ‘talent’ in the pop world’s attitude to themselves. Claiming to have these ‘heroes’ of music, and trying to explain the deep and true meaning of songs that they didn’t even write, give me a bloody break! Take a look at stars such as Britney Spears for example, okay; I admit she has a great voice but then take a look at her previous career. Hmmmmm, somebody say ‘set-up’? She was previously a child-model, a television presenter for Disney (along with her boyfriend Justin Timberlake – even more surprising) and then all
                  of a sudden chooses singing. The only reason she did so was that her other options were drying up and she had to save herself. Fair enough she has done well – but I was watching a television interview with her the other night and there she was, discussing the ‘real’ meaning of ‘her’ songs – listen Britney, write your own first and I’ll believe you, okay? The only reason that all these ’singers’ are making it big is due to looks and nothing more. Lets take the recent creation of ‘Hearsay’…most of them were okay at singing – the girls in particular, but have you ever heard them live? – Jesus, they are TERRIBLE! Danny sounds like somebody just stood on a bloody cat for crying out loud! And what exactly is the craic with singing live? Are these great singers not capable of it? They seem to sound great on a digitally tweaked album, but when on a stage do they catch some disease that requires them to mime? I absolutely hate miming, if you can sing in the first place, then nothing should stop you from doing so all the time (Bar colds, etc). I believe that flooding the market with these fakers simply encourages our children to listen to crap music. These people are making money out of the talent of the real stars – the people who write these songs they sing and who can play instruments instead of pretending to strum at a guitar pathetically while on stage (Yes, I’m taking to you A-1!). I say give the real people a chance, it is because of pathetic talent that we see today that the youth is faced with so much pressure regarding fashion, attitude, etc. No you don’t NEED to get your hair like Victoria bloody Beckham, okay?! As one good member of Dooyoo was kind to point out, he recently witnessed U2 using a backing track in one of their performances…okay, that’s IS a wee bit disappointing, but we do know that U2 actually have talent
                  and can play their instruments, Bono CAN sing live – I saw him about two years ago in concert and he was pretty amazing – I recently saw Samantha Mumba too and sorry, guess what? – miming all the way. I think she might’ve just used a cd player hooked up to the speakers it was that poor in quality. I know that all bands at one time or another mime, but that is not the argument here. I’m arguing against the idea of manufactured bands. I believe that these people are just being used themselves for making money for the record companies. The record companies know that the public go wild over a few shabby ballads sung by five photogenic people and so capitalise on that. Take a look at ‘Hearsay’ – or should I saw the former ‘Hearsay’ – how much money did they actually make? I’m not sure of exact figures but I read that the record company responsible for them made around three times as much collectively…and all they had to do was put an ad in the paper to draw these suckers in, I think I might try it. Don’t get me entirely wrong here, I DO actually like some Boybands/Girlbands…in fact I’m sure I like at least one song from all of them! I mean, who hasn’t hit the dance floor after a few beers to bust a few moves to the latest Atomic Kitten track, eh? In fact I might even sound really hypocritical here by saying I have every Westlife album (all two of them), Fives first album…and as a matter of fact, I actually did security at Westlife’s concert at my hometown! So I am not biased against the bands all the time – I just don’t like the front they put on, that’s all. I don’t agree with the manufactured band because I think that it holds other talent back. In fact, I’ll list why I hate the idea…and why it can be a good idea, just to be balanced… Reasons to hate: 1/I think it holds other rea
                  l talent back by flooding the market with repetitive, predictable songs, that capture the young eyes and ears of our youth, showing them mediocre talent and therefore letting the public believe that ‘This is it…it don’t get no better than this…’ 2/I hate the fronting of these people. Living the high life and complaining of ‘working hard’…the shiny, sequined decorated world they live in is far from tough. Maybe they should live in the real world and try watching the television news and see what’s really going on. 3/I do not believe that these people can call themselves musicians when 99% of them probably cannot play so much as a triangle; they do not write their own material and therefore should not be respected when they call themselves ‘artists’ and blather on about their material that means so much to them…and if I hear one more ‘artist’ thank Jesus when they receive an award…I’m going to scream… Reasons to love: 1/They can give good performances sometimes and some of the songs can be good…. I got to admit it. 2/They can provide a good role model for kids and give them someone to look up to…although this illusion is often shattered by their sometimes-silly actions coupled with the tabloids… Well, that is the end and if I receive any more constructive criticism, I will probably flip out again and change this again…this is my argument, take it or leave it… I rest my case…

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                    16.09.2001 00:44
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                    I reckon we have all seen the embarrassing infamous first TV “performance”of the Irish boyband Boyzone.But to young impressionable girls and homosexuals the end product is what matters. Shirt of pop music is clinically targeted like an American missile on Iraq. The big record companies have only to invest in four cute guys and away they go as the money pours in. The boyz don’t are paid for their talent and contribution, which obviously isn’t much. They get to sleep with older teenage girls and some boys (Stephen Gately), well you could tell by he moved his tush on the legendary Late Show episode. The cars and houses are plenty compensation for having to look very gay indeed doing their dance routines. Sadly for the guys though their shelf life isn’t good. Where are Let Loose, A1, East 17 etc. It’s much worse for the girlbands. Bewitched and All Saints managed a feeble couple of years. Numerous others fell way to quickly. They are as stable as an ashtray on a motorbike. The problem with a girl band is they haven’t really got an audience to speak off. The Spice Girls were unique as they were marketed perfectly under the guise of girl power, err by men. Atomic Kitten will be long gone this time next year as will….. , Well they have gone all ready!. Steps tried to mix up the two to get the gay and teen following which has worked well. They have also picked up the young mum crowd that doesn’t go for black culture stuff. As long as the record companies keep churning out these groups then there won’t be room for real talent. It’s questionable if Oasis would break in the noughties under the current pap pop domination. Hear Say was hopefully the death nell for contrived groups and their fans cottoned on to what a rip off it really is. They have all most disappeared after this tacky marketing ploy. There was nothing more grating to see the shows producers stri
                    ng along a star struck fat girl just to make the program more watchable. They let the characters get near the final cut only to ridicule them near the end. I think we should use the Westlifes and Fives to point young impressionable girls on the righteous path. How about special concerts on sink estates where the final moves in the dance routine are capped with,”Westlife say, no to teen pregnancies”…guitar err mixing desk riffffffff.

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                      14.08.2001 18:47
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                      This is my opinion on boybands and girlbands. A lot of you won't agree but i am going to tell it how i think it is. I don't expect everybody (well anybody) to agree but i feel this is a big topic and i just HAVE to have my say. (by the way when i say pop i mean the boybands and girlbands, and that kind of thing. I say this because almost all boybands and girlbands are pop...well they all are) In my opinion both Boybands and girlbands are crap. They don't make their own music they don't even write their own words, they just mime and dance like a load of stupid prats. And that is exactly what they are. Stupid. I mean even their cover versions of some excellent songs are crap. I mean look at 'Take On Me'. A1 ruined it. it wasn't any good compared to the original, and yet it did amazingly well...why was that? it was because even though i hate (and a lot of people do) them, they are gonna be around forever. Not the same bands, because most bands don't last 15 minutes, before they are gone, slipping into obscurity only to sell records to the purists. But i will talk about that in a minute. Boybands and Girlbands are always gonna sell a lot of records, they are always gonna be the only genre around that will stay forever. (well maybe not....but...)and the sad truth is, that people (especially me) need boybands and girlbands. Without them Metal and punk and (i know this is VERY unlikely.....but.....) Sludgecore, would be the new pop, and everyone would love them, and no-one would be different because they would ALL love the same thing. Thinking about it like that makes it sound good to have boy/girlbands because they keep the general public at bay and they give all us alternative fans something to laugh at and hate and mock unconditionally. Anyway, back onto the whole covers thing and the "bands that only last 15 minutes". Every single cover version of an excellent song done by a pop band, in my opinion is ruined.
                      I do not mean to say that covers by alternative bands are cool. I mean the only decent covers i have seen in recent years were both alternative, and both of pop songs, but they were both this year. the first was 'A Little Respect' by Wheatus (originally Erasure) and the second was 'Smooth Criminal' by Alien Ant FArm (originally by...the KING of pop Michael Jackson). They were both brilliant, and they are the only decent ones. Anything redone by a pop band is gonna suck before you hear it, and that is a fact. I ain't trying to piss off all you boyband/girlband fans on Dooyoo but this is how i feel about it all. And the whole thing about pop bands being around for 1 number one then dissapearing is true. Maybe not quite one hit, but they aren't gonna be around for more then two MAYBE three years. (Except Steps who have been around sincethe dawn of time, and still can't sound good). Look at Boyzone. They are gone and they were completely pants. They were the worst band out of Ireland in like.....forever. (i can sya that because i am part irish, so....HAHAHA). And then thereis B*withced. What happened to tehm? i haven't seen them around in ages....i can't mock them anymore!! I bet they have split up....and it wouldn't surprise me if they did an All Siants and split up, then one of them married a Gallagher. Alternative bands stick together forever. I mean look at The Offspring, they have been together 15 years, and then there is the alternative GODS Black Sabbath!! How long have THEY been going? I mean that makes a real band, longtivity. And that is true. I guess what you could say is that the world NEEDS boybands and girlbands, because without them the crowds would all be different and there wouldn't be anything TO music, it would all be the same....i guess we NEED pants music, just to show how good real music really is. All i say is, give all the boybands and girlbands some instrumnets and see how they get on in the
                      real music industry, playing toilets and shitty pubs before getting ANYWHERE. Then they woukd see wht it means to be in a band. Raging Speedhorn 4 life. Black Sabbath 4 life. KoRn 4 life. Lostprophets 4 life. Iron Monkey 4 life. punk 4 life ALTERNATIVE 4 life.

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                        08.08.2001 00:14
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                        Boybands rock, its official. Boyzone were drab and luvvy dovey but along came Backstreet Boys to funk it all up, FIve to flirt with the ladies and Blue to add the big 'Black' image. Its simple really, boybands are successful because they have good voices (despite what many say) and damn sexy asses. You ever see a boyband be successful when the members all have a hunch back? There is something causing their downfal though, and in my opinion that is the internet. With songs now available to download via Napster (or one of its clones such as Limewire), people are not spending as long watching them on TV. With Radio also overtaking TV in the amount of time we spend on each, bands that depend largely on their image are losing popularity, you cant see them on the radio after all. This has helped lead to a decrease in their populaity. Perhaps somewhat more controversially I am also arguing that internet porn is leading to their decline. With porn so hard to gain access to in the past, boybands were considered really sexy and a great way to relieve your sexual fantasies. Now we have the internet though, and boybands seem tame compared to what you can get online. So, their sex appeal is little, their looks arent getting seen and their voices are not good enough to win them to the top alone. So overall, boybands are falling and I doubt they will come back. Girlbands have something else going for them (despite having the same problems as the boybands) because women get behind them as a symbol of 'girl power'. Strong women inspire women to go and buy the singles, when did you last see a guy go and buy a boyzone song?

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                          01.08.2001 06:51
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                          Have you looked at the charts recently. There is something very very strange about them, especially the top five. There are no boy bands! Having come through the respective years of New Kids On The Block, Take That, Nsync, Boyzone and Backstreet Boys there is no doubt in my mind that boybands have a certain something that makes them a chart sucess. If I was to be superficial then I would say it is their looks, but how many hetrosexual males have stored a Backstreet Boys CD under the bed in the hope nobody notices? I know I was never that sad, I kept mine on top of my stereo and blamed my sister for it :) So, is it all down to the teeny girls who buy for their ehem, talent? Well, a part of me knows thats why they get to number one. They have an adoring fan base that will buy their music no matter how dire it is, simply because the face fits their own desires of the time. Indeed, many a psychological profile has shown that women will live out a sexual fantasy during their pubescent years with an unassailable person. In this instance its a popstar. By choosing them, they run no risk of having to attempt to fulfil their relationship and so it will never become a pressure to them, they can basically imagine it to be whatever they like. It's a risk free introduction to relationships and sex. How right are they? I wouldn't really like to comment on that, although there is certainly something that makes teenagers go potty over the likes of Ronan Keating and Robbie Williams. Right, thats the teenager fancies the band argument, but now for something too many people overlook. Can they actually sing? I listen everyday to a guy who's telling his best mate that there is nothing to being in a boy band, that they cant sing, cant dance and just stand there to look pretty. Well, I have to argue against this. Any guy you hear saying that, get them to sing 5 chords! Simply put, they can sing, just not as well a
                          s maybe some others. If you wish to prove this, try listening to the Backstreet Boys album 'millenium' where there are several high key notes that are not only sung but held for sustained periods. They also have similar low notes. You tell me thats not singing? What about the harmony too. They are able to sing as a group and they are able to make it sound good enough to passify the public if nothing else. So, why do we hate them so much? Its a hate thing. Sorry guys but it truly is a hate thing. We all want to be rich and famous, and seeing some guy walk about a stage and open his mouth for four minutes while earning over £100,000 for doing so makes us squirm. We all want to be in their shoes, we all want that chance and very few of us get it. So what do we do? We turn to our natural instincts, when we cant reach their level, you bring them down to yours! Still, this is nothing new, its been going on for years and its not halted sales for groups. So if jealousy isnt going to stop them, poor music and performances aren't going to stop them and scandals galore wont prevent them entering our top 10, then what will? Like I said, look at the charts today. We see in there, Limp Bizkit, Korn, Linkin Park and various others. Those Teenagers have now developed a new style of music and are entering the world of 'pop' rock. This not so hardcore version of rock music is leaving the likes of the Backstreet Boys behind in every chart imagineable. So is this the end of boybands? Alas I fear not. There is simply no way that a band genre that survives on human hormones is going to be disrupted for too long. While hormones are in the teenage body, the body will always want. While the body wants, records will sell and boybands will be a hit in the charts. What we are witnessing now is a lull before the next big thing arrives. We had the sanity of a 6 month break after Take That split up (they wer
                          e then followed to the top by Boyzone) and thats simply what is happening again now. We'll soon see them back. As for the girl groups? Well, Atomic Kitten seem to be giving the Spice Girls a run for their money, but they wont last and like everything else guys will turn back to FHM for the bodies and hip-hop for their music. Still, while there are hormones ......

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                            09.07.2001 00:25
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                            Okay, i am going to be completely honest here, I have been a fan of the Backstreet boys for the past 5 years, although these past three years i haven't been so infatuated by them as i used to be. I have opened my eyes and woke up a little bit, i have realised that yes they are talented and are accomplishing a dream of theirs which they have probably had all their life, but that is it, i don't worship the ground they walk on like so many fans tend to do now-a-days. I respect what they are doing, but i cannot comprehend the responses they get from fans, holding signs at concerts saying "Hey i'm legal" or "blah blah blah, will you marry me?", when will they grow up and not be so obsessive, they get to see so many different people everyday, they are rushed from one place to the next and yet some fans still think that they are in with a chance of marrying them or making a big impression on their lives. Many members of these bands have become pretty big-headed and up their own, if you would excuse the term (sorry :( ) That is a real big turn off for me, falseness does not sell me anything! I am not meaning to sound off and annoy anybody with this comment, as there are fans, like myslef who are not obsessed, like to listen to their music and do think that they are good looking, but those fans who have everything backstreet, such as pencil cases, mirrors, rubix cubes, need to take a look around!!!! I used to purely love the backstreet boys, i would almost hit someone if they dissed them but now i joke about them and can take other peoples comment, because everyones opinion counts and is interesting. I also now have a very diverse taste in genres of music, Backstreet are okay but i also like Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park, Eve, Dr.Dre, Eminem, No doubt and many more along the same lines. Well don't let me or anyone else tell you who you should and shouldn't like, you should be the only one who can decide that, if you li
                            ke girl/boy bands its cool, if you dont, that's fine too. As long as you are you and the person who you want to be that is all that should really matter. Lets face it they are going to be around for years to come, we should just all let our hair down accept others opinions and have FUN :) Since the above, i have heard the news that AJ Mclean out of the BSB's has checked himself into rehab' to overcome depression, alcohol abuse and anxiety attacks. He should come to Dooyoo.co.uk and sound off! I was quite saddened by this but respect the fact that he wants to overcome this problem, i admire that. Also this now shows that at the end of the day he is only human and mistakes are made no matter what your significance in society is and things like this do sadly happen. So i wish him all the best and would advise him to keep his chin up and have a speedy recovery.

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                              22.06.2001 03:09
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                              Hearsay was formed by the popular t.v series called popstars. The producers got the idea from Australian popstars. Auditions were held and thousands of people turned up. But only five people could be in the final band. The bands members are Noel, Danny, Myleene, Kym and Suzanne. The members of the band chose the name Hearsay after looking in the gossip page of star magazine. Hearsay have already had a number one album and a number one single. The album contains fifteen great tracks, the songs are easy to listen to and the music is all different styles. “Pure and Simple” was hearsay’s first single they released and it went straight to number one and they broke the record for fastest selling single. “The way to your love” is going to be Hearsay’s second single and I love it. The song starts off with a slow rhythm at the start them it gets faster. You can’t help but sing along to this song. The songs “Monday Monday” and “Bridge Over Troubled Water” which the band were always singing on popstars appears on the album which sound really nice. “A Bridge Over Troubled Water” is the only really slow song that gives a nice ending to the album. Both songs are great and they sing them well. The rest of the songs are great. The rhythms are great. I think Hearsay will get a lot of high chart hits with this album. My favourite songs on the album are “The way to your love” and “Not that kind.” These are great tunes and “Not that kind” is a really fast great song. I love Hearsay and I am going to their concert in September. They sound great live and I am glad the final five were picked for the band.

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                                OK - so I'm 26 and whenever Tragedy comes on the wireless I can't stop my hands flying to my temples and my booty gyrating like a food mixer on high! I don't care what all you dull, lethargic Radiohead stylee boffs think, I LOVE POP! It's happy, and fun and uplifting. And my heart breaks for those little puppy dog faces looking up at me from my TV screen, telling me they think about me all the time, and that my eyes are like the ocean. God, I'd love my BF to say things like that (Well he does - for a shag!) And Girlbands are great for kiddies! I think it's brill to see wee girls with their spangly outfis on, and thier lipglass, dancing away to Britney (even if she is a cowbag!) Girlbands, boybands, pop in any from - it's chicken soup for the soul (soul divas!)

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