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Fiat Croma |
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29/10/00 (571 review reads) |
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Advantages: Spacious, cheap to run
Disadvantages: Poor Fiat Servicing. Parts expensive, unliked by the dealers
We bought a Fiat Croma i.e. Super new in June 1987 to replace our Fiat Uno 55 that had given 3 years' 'reasonable' service. At that time our 3 children were aged 9, 7 and coming up to 6 years' old and were finding the space in the Uno back seat a little too restrictive. We would have loved to have bought a Mitsubishi Spacewagon, or one of the new Renault Espace, but we just couldn't afford it. We couldn't afford the full price of the Fiat Croma, but we needed a larger hatchback car, and so we researched the market. The very maximum we could afford was about £7000, and the Uno was worth about £2,200. We considered the Vauxhall Cavalier (about £7,000), and the Ford Sierra, but we found them both noisey (on our test drives) and the headroom in the rear of the hatchback Cavalier was restrictive. I then saw that our local Fiat Dealer in Edinburgh had some special offers on the Fiat Croma 2 Litre CHT model (a reduction of almost £3,000 with a net price of about £7,500) but by the time we had traipsed the 'tribe' over to the garage, the two examples were sold. We spoke to the salesman, and had a test drive in their demonstrator, an 'i.e. Super' model (which had a fuel-injected engine rather than the lower powered carburretor engine of the CHT). The price was way out of our league with an £11,500 list price. However, the children had plenty of room in the back and the car drove well and the wife (Heather) was impressed. The salesman asked about our current car (which he had sold to us almost 3 years before) and he looked the car over 'to get an idea' (it was, as we say in Wales, "tidy"). The Fiat Croma design was the result of cooperation between the Fiat group and SAAB, so that the basic bodyshell of the Croma was the same as that used in the Alfa Romeo 164, the Lancia Thema, and the SAAB 9000. I think they were called the 'Group 4' concept - or somethi
ng like that. These cars were all reknown for their spacious interiors, and the Croma was by no means the 'poor relation' of the bunch. Sadly we told the salesman that the price was just too high and we could go no further.... Two weeks later the telephone rang and I was asked if I might still be interested in a Fiat Croma "at the right price" ? I said "Yes" immediately, and was asked if I could visit the showroom, preferably that same day. So at about 6pm I met the salesman again and he ushered me towards a Fiat Croma with BROWN paintwork. This was not the colour that I (or most of the British public) would have chosen, but it did have a beige coloured velour trim, which I immediately recognised as being the specification of the injection engine (2 litre i.e. Super model). It also had the 'computer controlled' heating system (a 'climate control' concept lacking air-conditioning) The car had 83 miles on the clock and was unregistered. The salesman made me an offer, which I couldn't refuse, so after telephoning Heather and explaining the offer she agreed and the deal was done. The story we were given was that they had received enquiries by a couple wanting to buy a red Uno 5 door, that had one owner who must be a non-smoker. That decsribed our current Uno exactly, so the dealer wanted to do a deal with this particular Croma (which had been in a showroom in Glasgow), but it had to be done "today", with a June registration. All efforts to delay registration until 1st August (for an "E" plate) were resisted. The only problem that I could find was a small cigarette burn on the drivers' door panel. The price we paid was £5,000 plus the Uno, exactly the maximum that we wanted to spend, so that D649FSF became our property ! We ran the car for almost exactly 6 years, covering 92,355 miles, with only a few problems. These were: failure of the clutch and
flywheel (cost £320); and failure of the ignition coil (£120 !). We also needed one new battery and one new exhaust, and I bought only 6 tyres which was excellent performance. Fiat dealers were not very good then at carrying out servicing, with loose spark plugs or plugs set at the wrong gap size a problem at all the services up to 24,000 miles (at which stage, I started carrying out my own servicing). The fuel consumption was 25 mpg around town and up to 35mpg on a run. The dealership closed down for redevelopment in 1990, and when I was carrying out some surveying work on the site, I met the Service Manager who was just clearing out the workshops. He recognised the car ("Only one we sold of that colour" - "OBVIOUSLY" was my reply !), and he asked "Will this be of any use to you ? (Holding up a full Croma Workshop Manual) - WOW !. By the time we came to the end of our ownership, there was also a power steering leak and the engine was beginning to leak and burn a little oil, but we weren't complaining. So how did this idylic picture of satisfied car ownsership end ? Unfortunately, by catastrophe ! I was driving towards Edinburgh city centre one Friday evening in June 1993 at about 5 pm, to collect my son from the skating rink. I indicated a right hand turn, positioned myself correctly to turn right off the main road and stopped to let oncoming traffic pass, when THUMP, a single decker bus hit the car from behind very hard. Fortunately, only 5 days' I had before watched an Esther Rantzen TV program (never one of my favourites!), when she made suggestions about the correct setting of car head restraints, which caused both Heather and I to evaluate the positioning in the Croma. Needless-to-say, they were badly wrong, so we adjusted them as correctly as possible. The nearside rear was pushed in severely, the bodyshell ('not particularly strong', alleged a
German car magazine) was twisted (so that afterwards I could only open the drivers' door), and my front seat all-but totally collapsed. However, I felt my neck being supported by the head restraint - so NO WHIPLASH INJURY. Indeed, I remember the engineer who examined that car afterwards before (obviously) declaring it a write-off commented that "whoever was driving this car will be suffering with their neck for some time". My insurance company were obvioulsy very impressed with my honesty about there being no claim for whiplash, because the settlement given for the car was £2,250 !!!. They claimed the sum from the bus company insurers and money to compensate me for 'loss of use' of the car (when I used our Mercedes 190 - see my review of this car). Only days before the accident, we had been visiting showrooms again and had test-driven both a Renault Espace (see my review) and a Toyota Previa. By now, our growing family had engaged in furious hand-to-hand combat whenever put in the back together, and we needed to separate them. The 'net' part-exchange allowances that had been offered were £1,150 and £870 !!! I had a friend who wanted to buy the Croma for £1,250, and loose arrangements had been made with him for when we intended to replace the Croma in August 1993. So I was both relieved (that I had not been injured) and well, at least smiling all the way to the bank. Although we have been happy with the Espace, it is fair to say that we have missed the Croma. The colour 'grew' on us. We only saw one other Croma in that colour (which was more popular for the smaller Regata model of that period), but I doubt if I'll ever even sit in a brown car again. It was quiet, very spacious and very comfortable Definitely a very-under-rated car. I understand that the CHT was under-powered and the Turbo was too powerful for the chassis, so the "i.e." was the best compromise. If you can fi
nd one of the very few good ones still remaining, then proceed with caution. Parts are probably now difficult to source, and I suppose that I would direct you towards a SAAB 9000,or an Alfa Romeo 164 all of which sold more in the UK than the Croma (and are therefore probably easier to get parts for). Copyright Sidneygee 2000
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- 28/01/01 Thinking again of 'our' bonfire night comments, the Croma was never a popular car and the other Group 4's sold more in the UK. This does not necessarily make it a bad car, and we did not find it particularly unreliable. Certainly the Croma was more reliable than my neighbours experiences over a similar period with a Renault 25, an Alfa 164 and an Audi 100 (although a Saab 9000 Turbo was exceptional in this respect (but at almost twice the price, this did not win brownie points at the time. Only two of my 'associates'; also purchased Cromas (a CHT and another ie), and they were both quite happy. As I said, there are so few in scrap yaerds nbow that keeping them on the road would prove difficult, although they were much more popular on the continent, so some parts might be more available there. |
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- 06/11/00 One of the problems with any car is that if it is given a poor image, then it descends more rapidly into the hands of those who do not maintain them well, and they soon end up in the scrap yard. However, how many 1987 cars do you still see around ? The only two Cromas I have noticed this year were not 'rotting hulks'.
It was also not helped by the poor Fiat garages of that era. Personally, I cannot complain about my experience with the car, which was generally reliable over the 6 years I owned it. I established that it was a very early example and perhaps was slightly better finished (?) I did not particularly like the 'face-lifts'.
With the (huge) discount on buying, and the good insurance settlement, I worked out that it cost me no more than a Cavalier GL of the same period would have cost to run, and it was a far better family car to own than that. I wished I could have afforded an Alfa or a SAAB though, but theses would have cost more to run ! Still, with the low values offered on used Cromas, I felt that it was worth more to me than the figures that the dealers were quoting, until I needed the extra room of an MPV that is. |
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- 06/11/00 The Croma was a big, roomy car and had one or two facelifts during its lifetime.
Unfort unately it rightly never lost its reputation for being a poorly built, hugely unreliable vehicle that consequently suffered from horrendous depreciation.
Th e best indication of the standards of this particular Fiat is that you very rarely ever see one these days! |
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