I have been a Proud owner of a honda civic for about a year now!
When my last car had broke down i was running around in circles looking for a new car that would suit taking me to and from work and take me to places and would hold up for a few years without breaking down on me so often...
And so far im a very happy driver with my Honda!
It's not yet broken down at all yet and when it does my car workshop offer me deals just because they like the look of my car... so not only is it such an amazing car easy to use and a nice comfortable drive it's also very good looking car and looks very modern!
I would definitely suggest this to new time buyers or people whom were in the same situation as me needing a great car!
so guys go checking out the honda civic!!!
I have been the owner of a Honda Civic Hybrid for three years and have been delighted with every aspect except for a couple of niggles. It's been used extensively on all journey types, around town and long distance.
The list price now is £17,990 to £20,450, but we bought ours for £16,500 including the leather seats option plus £500 for the five year HondaCare that includes all servicing costs. At the time there was just the one model. The leather seats make it so much easier for ease of getting in and out, especially as the car is quite low.
Ordered in April 2006 soon after launch we never got it till November due to production delays. Initially we were concerned at the not so impressive economy and it took a good six months before it started to improve, apparently this is true as the engine wears in and the battery "matures", sounds odd but apparently is true.
The main things affecting the economy are, above all, your driving style, but also hugely influenced by the weather and the payload. Warm summer, just the driver - no passenger, no luggage on traffic free roads on a long distance motorway run and we have hit our record of 70mpg.
I know this economy is nothing compared to a diesel, but you have the advantage here of a luxury car, no tick-tick of a taxi and it's an automatic with cruise control. It is a very quiet car and very comfortable with body hugging seats that are fully adjustable. Again it is, and was then, expensive but this is offset as follows:
It is only a 1.4 engine so cheap to insure, road tax is currently £15 per year (dropping to £10 /year from April 2010), and achieving on average 60 miles/gallon the petrol cost savings against our other cars are about an extra 220 extra miles per tank full (11 gals) - it's now definitely paying for itself. Servicing costs would, I believe, be about £150 /year without the HondaCare. You also get exemption from London congestion charges (although they cheekily charge £10 /year not to pay it).
The niggles are the thick front side pillars which do limit visibility; you sit quite low, even with the seat wound up as high as; it is a saloon rather than a hatchback; the whole car is low so need to be careful when parking nose in to kerbs; the knobs to lock the cars are fiddly with no grip and would be difficult to open in an emergency; lastly, you have to open the boot with a key which is a pain when shopping.
The large, wide, high-level, line-of-sight speed indicator is great and really focuses your attention to the speed limits. This is accompanied by the current mpg figure you are achieving to the left and to the right, the fuel level gauge. The main panel is dominated by the rev counter, to the left of this is the battery charge/assist indicator and to the right the gear position indicator (Park, Reverse, Neutral, Drive, Slow) that illuminate with your current gear position. Steering wheel controls are radio/CD to the left and cruise control to the right with the usual sticks for lights and wipers. All displays are really bright and clear.
With a single button press you can scroll between trip meter one and two with mpg, outside temperature and odometer
The central console is neatly split into three with equal prominence given to radio/CD and clock display at top, radio/CD control in middle and heating/air conditioning controls at bottom.
The shiny automatic gear shift lever and handbrake are in just the right place. Behind these are the heated seat controls and behind again a storage box with cup holders behind with a sliding arm rest half over the top.
The CD player is a six CD changer, superb quality though it chunters and crashes around to change CD's. The climate control works well and holds the temperature steadily, you can set the temperature, let it adjust then turn the system off to maintain the temperature without the fan whirring which is pleasant.
For the rear passengers there is loads of room and the flat floor makes for added legroom. Like all cars it is bit of a squash for three across unless they are really thin, but it is comfortable in the rear even though the seats lean back too much so you feel as though your bottom will slide forward, not too serious.
Driving feels like any mid size car though I would say feels less stable than some in high winds - it can drift if not careful, it must be relatively light for it's size. Overall it is very quiet and relaxing to drive. Some criticism of Honda is that they are cheap and plasticky inside, well the expanse of dashboard is grey plastic but there you go, what else would one have.
The automatic CVT gearbox is very quiet and you effortlessly glide up and down it with good acceleration when you need it.
Night driving is fairly stress-free with reasonable, but not outstanding headlights, but with the additional driving lights illuminating the kerb and central line it is better.
Those who are not used to the hybrid technology will notice three main differences from an all petrol car. When accelerating, especially up hills, the combination of the relatively small engine, only a 1.4, and the extra drive from the electric motor push the car into high revs which make for a pretty raucous sounding strain on the engine, no problem but no doubts critics would find this a problem and say it is vastly under-powered. Next difference is if you gently decelerate with the intention of stopping, the engine cuts out at 8mph and effectively goes into freewheeling, which can be alarming for the un-initiated. The engine cutting out when stationery in traffic and traffic lights is pleasantly quiet and you hardly hear the engine fire up again when you take your foot off the foot brake.
It is very easy to develop good economy driving thanks to the big current mpg display, tiny tweaks to your foot on the gas cut out the petrol and indicator welcomely slides up the scale toward 100mpg!
It's a conservative car, looks more like an accord than the flashier new Civics, but ours had the fancy wheels that have flat discs for hub caps which draw the odd glance but it understates its comfort, luxury and technology from the outside.
Interesting that the Civic Hybrid slipped into the market three years ago without too much funfair, whereas the new Insight is being promoted as the world or cars going forward with no mention of this Civic Hybrid, but personally I think is a big let down, as though they tried too hard and failed to beat the Prius, shame. Go for the Civic Hybrid instead.
This is certainly one of the most comfortable cars I have driven and been a passenger in; the driving seat for me is the best ever. With Honda's name for build quality and reliability it should be trouble free for years to come.
WHAT IS IT?
(Please note that it is NOT the Civic shown at the top of this page - the red car shown there being the hatchback, NOT offered with the Hybrid power plant)
Now theres a question! This is Hondas answer to the rather better known Toyota Prius, i.e an ultra low emissions vehicle dependant on a combination of small (1.3 litre) petrol engine and a battery powered electric motor.
The badge on the back reads HYBRID, the one on the speedometer IMA Integrated Motor Assist. Both of these terms in practice amount to the same thing, a medium sized saloon car powered by two engines working together to produce an ultra-low emissions vehicle, theoretically capable of very good economy.
Looking at the Civic saloon it is difficult to visualise the much more stylish, and popular, Civic hatchback with which, I suspect, you will be far more familiar. Indeed this is a totally different car, sharing no external body panels with the Civic hatch, inside there are certain similarities, but the interior too is largely bespoke.
WHICH SPECIFIC MODEL?
Due to the expense of the technology and the cost and complexity of building the Civic saloon, Honda keeps it very simple indeed. The Hybrid comes in just one version: the very well equipped ES, with a 1.3 petrol engine coupled to an automatic CVT (constantly variable) transmission. You have a choice of body colour and the option of leather upholstery and that is it.
I found myself immediately wondering why Honda had not offered this intriguing and tax busting power combination in the hatchback Civic a far more desirable LOOKING car. That was before opening the boot and discovering how much space the battery pack and rear mounted motor take up. This also explains why at 4545mm long (1750 wide), it is so close dimensionally to the Honda Accord.
The saloon body style is also now, ironically, available in the UK as a Type R (Racing) version dropping the 1.3 litre petrol engine and battery powered motor - replacing them with a 200bhp 2 litre petrol engine, thus creating an animal of a totally different breed. Stylistically somehow, the Civic Saloon shape far more suits the Hybrid badge than it does the sporty Type R one.
On other markets the same body is offered with a more conventional range of petrol and diesel engines.
IN WHAT CAPACITY AM I REVIEWING THIS CAR?
I am reviewing this car very much in its natural environment, partly using it to evade Mr Livingstones TfL Congestion Charge. I actually requested it for the day from Chiswick Honda upon taking in my Accord Diesel for a service.
If you drive a Honda and live in this area, the majority of service and body shop loan cars from Chiswick Honda are now Hybrids, which neatly side steps the issue of having to pay the Congestion Charge which has now been extended to West London including the Natural History Museum to which we were heading.
I had never driven a Hybrid car of any type before not surprising as only Honda and Toyota / Lexus currently make them.
Ultimately this is going to be the prime selling point of this particular car. Costs in this case, present an unusually complex equation. It is difficult to purely analyse the car costs without taking into consideration the potential savings that you will make if you live in and, or, work within the now extended congestion charge zone.
At the extreme, assuming that you drive into the capital every working day this car can save you £2000 per year, a not inconsiderable amount of money on your commuting expenses.
Group 7 insurance combined with the lowest road tax band, even for city dwellers this will not break the bank.
An overall cost per mile of 40.6p is nothing to write home about though conventionally engined Civic hatches, both petrol and diesel, can better that. Incidentally, the cheapest Toyota Prius model would cost 43.4 pence per mile to run.
This will be one of the cheapest company cars of all to run however, with a CO2 level of just 109gms/kg it falls into the very lowest benefit in kind tax band at 12%, costing a 22% tax payer £546.05 per year and £992.82 for a 40% tax payer
PURCHASE COST 9 / 10
Apart from buying a second hand Toyota Prius, or a used one of these, this car is going to be your cheapest way into Hybrid motoring and the advantages that come with it. For the basic car Honda will charge you £16,600, very reasonable indeed considering the technology involved, not to mention the well above average standard kit count.
THE OPTIONS GAME: 9 / 10 or How much do I need to spend to make it habitable?
This car has all the mod cons that you could wish for. The only two options both of which I would recommend, are metallic paint (£375) and leather upholstery (£800).
DEPRECIATION 8 / 10 Always the biggest running cost.
Not an easy category to score in this case as this car has so very little competition. Worth 46% of its purchase cost (i.e. £7636) after three years and 36,000 miles use, it depreciates at the same rate as a petrol or diesel Civic hatchback.
Interestingly a Toyota Prius the only comparable Hybrid on the market, is worth a mere 36% of its initial value after the same length of time and mileage.
These figures are however rather hypothetical, I suspect that in London or indeed Manchester, where road charging is coming, the second hand values of these cars is likely to be far stronger than in more rural areas.
FUEL ECONOMY 4 / 10
We were NOT impressed / amused!
I have fallen victim to Hondas grossly over optimistic official fuel consumption figures before. Theoretically my own diesel Accord is supposed to average 53mpg, over 75,000 miles use it has managed 40mpg not bad for a family saloon - but way below the figure that Honda and their salesmen had led me to expect when purchasing it.
In the Hybrids case the overall consumption figure is quoted at 61.4 mpg, the worst figure being the Urban one at 54.3mpg.
OK, we would have liked to have covered far more miles in this car, particularly in less traffic, but wait for it
according to the cars own trip computer, my 28 miles of mixed driving achieved 12.8mpg!
YES, not a misprint: 12.8mpg! I had well and truly had Ken Livingstone over!
I am quite sure that, had I driven our own diesel Accord Saloon on those same roads, it would have proved considerably more economical AND let far less pollution out onto Londons still hideously crowded roads.
In the Hybrid we drove into Town for nothing, in the Accord we would have been charged £8.00 for the same journey.
Very simplistically, the rated CO2 level is directly related to the amount of fuel burned by the engine. If the fuel consumption is that far out then so too will be the amount of carbon dioxide being emitted into the atmosphere from the exhaust pipe.
Less simplistically, this car uses every known trick in the book in order to, theoretically, save fuel. In practice, we discovered that in heavy London traffic most of the fuel saving features just could not combat the constant stop start driving.
On the dashboard are bar graphs showing you how much charge is in the battery and how efficiently you are topping it up or running it down. The wheels act like dynamos charging the battery under braking and when cruising on light throttle. Creeping from one set of lights to the next simply does not let the battery charge although once you do actually start to move the battery re-charges surprisingly quickly.
When you come to rest at a red light, the petrol engine stops, leaving the electric motor to power the climate control, lights and wipers etc. Strangely if I took my foot off the brake pedal and applied the hand-brake, the engine re-started.
None of these tricks however could save the Civic Hybrid from producing what I consider to be truly abysmal fuel consumption that in the very environment for which, surely, it was designed.
SERVICE & MAINTENANCE COSTS 9 / 10: are you going to make the dealer rich?
According to Hondas published service cost figures no. Your dealer will take less for servicing one of these than for any diesel model in their range.
Budget for £682 on servicing over three years and 36,000 miles use. The Prius would cost £745 over the same period.
From experience with our own Accord, I would expect to use far more brake pads than expected especially so with this being an automatic and also with that bar gauge winking at you on the dashboard, positively tempting you into braking in order to charge up the battery pack!
Let the fun begin! You want to know what this car is like to live with and to drive and be driven in .
STYLING 5 /10: A very subjective category here.
With the exception of the boxy Jazz, Honda have designed a stunning looking range of cars, this particular saloon standing out as the dullard in that range especially as it wears a Civic badge. Marginally better looking than the awkward Prius, there is little to commend the shape or styling details on the Hybrid saloon.
In short, nobody will buy it for its looks.
OVERALL BUILD QUALITY AND FINISH 9 / 10 Does it look as though it was slung together?
The Civic Hybrid is a thoroughly well built and finished car. The gaps between the body panels are close and very evenly aligned, whilst the pale blue metallic paint finish on our car was lustrous and evenly applied.
SAFETY 9 /10 If it comes to the worst, how well are you and your family going to come out of it.
Honda did not scrimp on safety features in order to finance the engine technology here. The Civic Hybrid carries a full compliment of dynamic and passive safety features.
Vehicle Safety Assist (VSA) helps control the car in extreme handling situations and I can vouch that this works superbly on the larger, heavier Accord, whilst Electronic Brake Force Distribution (EBD) empowers these cars with the best brakes that I have ever experienced. The latter factor possibly explains the unusually high rate of brake pad wear.
Inside the car you are surrounded with airbags, including curtain ones, whilst active head rests combined with the front airbags offer extra protection to the front seat occupants in the event of a crash.
ERGONOMICS 7 / 10 Before I can start the engine and drive away I need to feel at home in the working environment. The relationship between the controls and how I, the driver, am able to instinctively operate those controls is, all important. This for me is make or break, before I drive a car, if it does not instinctively feel right in this department then I will never like it or ultimately buy it.
Some may well prefer the interior of the Civic Hybrid to the Civic hatchback. Whilst it shares the same basic dashboard design, with split zone displays, the Hybrids dash is somewhat less fussy in execution.
The primary controls and gauges are all simple enough, whilst the relationship between the steering wheel, pedals, gear selector and handbrake are just about ideal. Incidentally the stylish little handbrake lever not only looks great, but works beautifully too well done Honda in bringing both a touch of unusual style AND function to such a basic control.
The Hybrid, as with its more conventional Civic brethren, gets marked down due to its confusing multiplicity of minor controls. I was also less than keen on the very prominent and distracting white bar graph, next to the digital speedometer, which showed the instant fuel consumption read out.
VISIBILITY: 7 / 10
Hondas, for whatever reason, are never the best on this score. Vastly better than the Hatchback, with its dangerously compromised rearwards visibility, I still found it difficult judging the corners of this car when parking. Not usually a fan of such systems, but if using a Hybrid regularly in town, I would be tempted to add a parking radar system to it front and rear.
SPACE: 8 / 10:
This car has a huge interior and is equally as spacious as the slightly larger (externally) Accord. There is ample room for three adults to sit abreast in the rear and they will be well accommodated for leg and headroom too.
The interior space is also very intelligently used, with oddments boxes and storage spaces everywhere.
What it does not have, thanks to the battery pack mounted behind the rear seats, is a very large boot. This particular feature would actually prove a problem in our case.
STYLE 7 / 10:
When compared to the Buck Rogers Civic hatchback, the Hybrid Saloon looks a bit of a half hearted effort on this score. Although the dashboard still sweeps into the front doors, adding to the impression of space, the materials used are less imaginative in nature and the instrument panel less attractive to look at too. I was pleased to see the Civics attractive leather rimmed steering wheel here though.
Our car came with the grey leather seat option, which brings with it attractive leather panels set into the doors. Unlike in our own Accord, the Civic is refreshingly free of any fake wood trim and looks all the better for it.
I prefer the deeper, more supportive seats in the standard Civic, or in the Accord, although neither of us had any complaints after sitting in this car for a couple of hours.
MATERIALS, FIT & FINISH 8 / 10: Aspreys or Ratners?
Having said that I prefer the standard (hatchback) Civics rather more radical interior style, it was difficult to fault the materials, fit and finish here. I have driven many far more expensive cars with less feel good factor about their interiors.
AUDIO & CLIMATE CONTROL SYSTEMS 9 / 10: Strange grouping?
We were impressed with not only the simplicity of using these controls much less complex than in the hatchback, but the audio system was notably good in sound quality too.
Compared to the rather more sophisticated dual zone climate control to be found in the Accord, the Hybrids system was rather noisy, if acceptably efficient in operation. Particularly appealing was the fact that thanks to the battery pack, the climate control continues to cool the interior of the car even with the engine not running.
ON THE ROAD ..
Time to start it up and to offer you a driving assessment.
NOISE, VIBRATION & HARSHNESS 9 / 10 Silk purse or sows ear?
BIG SURPRISE! I have to be honest here and say that my expectations on this score were low. The last Civic that I drove was an i-Shift semi-automatic, and I remarked at the time that it would be a much better car had Honda put their excellent CVT transmission into it. This car has that transmission, albeit coupled to a much smaller engine.
The transmission is smooth in take up, the engine revs willingly, without vibration and the whole car has a thoroughly grown up feel to it that I simply had not expected.
Also very unexpected is the seemless transition from petrol to electric power. More impressive still is the silent engine start when you drive away, no starter motor noise, no vibration the engine just very quietly gets on with the job in hand.
At higher speeds, and under acceleration, the Civic Hybrid was somewhat less impressive, this actually being a characteristic of the CVT transmission which has a tendency to over-rev the engine. When coasting with the engine actually shut down a strange road rumble is heard maybe not purely road noise but a low pitched hum from the electric motor.
Sitting at traffic lights with the engine off even with the windows wound up you realise what a noisy world we live in, a strange feeling until you get used to the engine cutting out at every opportunity!
PERFORMANCE 7 / 10 Sh*t off a shovel or a constipated tortoise?
Having read a lot about Hybrids I was very curious to sample the Civics performance. Due to the free revving little 1.3 engine and CVT transmission it actually feels very sprightly indeed about town.
At 1297kg in weight, the Hybrid is not exactly a lightweight car. Offering 88bhp at 6,000rpm you are not going to be first away from every set of lights. However, those statistics actually paint a rather false picture of the Hybrids ability on the road. The combination of two power sources the electric one majoring on torque - means that in give and take driving this is an amazingly relaxed and flexible car to drive. For those interested the maximum torque figure is 166lbs/ft at 4,600rpm very impressive indeed for a 1.3 litre engine!
In ordinary day to day driving, this car is totally the opposite to the traditional high revving, manic gearchanging Honda. It has just enough performance for ordinary driving conditions no more, no less.
RIDE & HANDLING 8 / 10
I have to be honest here and confess that I did not get the opportunity to throw the car about in order to properly assess its handling abilities. In normal driving the handling is very neutral, thanks to the electrically assisted power steering it is very light to drive, once again there is nothing unusual about it on this score.
On a wide variety of road surfaces, some pretty awful urban, broken, ones we were impressed with the Hybrids ride quality. Certainly it rides more comfortably, and quietly, than the more firmly sprung Civic hatchback.
CONCLUSION Would I buy one myself and would we want to drive it to Poland in a day?
Very tricky! I found this quite the most relaxing way in which to travel around our crowded capital and was impressed in every way that I did not expect to be. However, the big let down was that, given all that high tech gadgetry, very well concealed under the Hybrids skin, in my opinion at least, it failed miserably to live up to its billing as an urban economy car.
Taking a Civic Hybrid to Poland would not be a popular idea with Mrs R as nearly half of her precious luggage space has been given over to the battery pack! In terms of performance, comfort and maybe even long range economy, I would have no qualms about covering 1000 miles in a day in one of these cars.
On balance, I feel that I have to conclude by saying that probably a more conventional £17,000 diesel powered car is going to prove a better all round choice. Having said that there is obviously a lot of potential development left to run in Hybrid technology and it would not surprise me if Honda were not marketing more powerful versions in the very near future.
FINAL SCORE: 125 / 170 - 73.5%
Putting that score into perspective are the following cars based on identical scoring criteria:
ALFA ROMEO 147 1.9JTD Lusso (5 Dr) - 67.8%
FIAT PUNTO GRANDE SPORTING 130 Mjet 75.9%
HONDA ACCORD i-CTDi Saloon - 80.0%
HONDA CIVIC 1.8i VTEC SE 78.2%
HONDA CIVIC 1.8i VTEC S i-SHIFT 68.8%
HONDA CIVIC HYBRID IMA ES 73.5%
HONDA JAZZ 1.4 SE CVT-7 (Automatic) - 74.7%
SAAB 9-3 TiD Vector - 68.2%
SAAB 9-3 TiD Linear CONVERTIBLE (2007 Mondel) 74.1%
VAUXHALL ASTRA TWINTOP 1.9 CDTi DESIGN 78.8%
VAUXHALL MONARO VXR - 71.1%
VW PASSAT TDi 140 S ESTATE 71.7%
VOLVO S60 D5 SE - 70.6%