My late Mum bless her always wanted to own a sporty car with flip lights,luckily she did get to own a 200sx.
To which we was given after she past away,the car was great,We were already a Nissan fans and this added to our Nissan experience.
The look on this late eighties model still turn heads and the flip lights add to people taking a second look.With friends and some strangers asking how could we afford such an expensive car and comparing it to cars 5 times what it was worth at that time.
The s13 model changed design in the UK to the s14, but in Japan they added the new s14 s14a models but kept this model under the 180sx title until 1998 due to it selling really well and being popular.
The engine featured in the UK spec model was the ca18det,which is a really strong 4 cylinder engine which on this car features a single turbo setup,the engine is based on the Nissan RB engines famous for being in later Skyline models and very strong and tunable.
The ca18det engine is a strong engine which takes well to normal driving and loves punishment from hard driving and tuning mods.
Models in Japan and models up in the UK from these featured the sr20de sr20det engines which was a swap down to being a more economical engine other changes where on the brakes etc something wiki can explain in more detail if you are looking at the Japanese versions or even the US versions which features a ka24de engine in there models of this same car.
These cars are getting old but a cult favourite through tuners and a huge scene in the Drifting World for these cars.This is no reason if you are not into any of these scenes to not get one of these cars,instead take it as a good reason to get one due to being sort after even with its age and it shows it is a popular pick even against modern cars.
The car wares well with rust issues if any but again this is with age but as with any car out there caught early and looked after examples are out there.
Parts wise Nissan still stocks parts and there are a mass of aftermarket parts to use for these cars.
Another point is a couple of years after selling this car into the family i may add,we bought an R32 Skyline which was around the same age as the sx.The R32 felt just like the sx the way it felt and looked inside the driving position almost exact,i was not suprised to find out that it shares parts.
Overall these are great cars and for the cost of them now,you get a sporty car which has a great engine even against modern cars.A roomy car which seats 4 adults even 5 at a slight sqeeze,and good boot space
and head turning looks.And with a mass of tuning parts and bodykits to add more power or a fresh look for this price you are getting ultimate
car which was so overlooked in this country for many years.
I had a 1991 Nissan 200sx 1.8 turbo.
It was visually standard on the standard tear drop alloy wheels.
The arch ways on these cars are huge, so for looks, the cars do benefit from aftermarket alloys of either 18 or 19 inch.
Standard 170 BHP, 0-60 in 6.9 seconds.
Power figures of 250 BHP can be achieved with a few minor modifications. More is attainable depending on how deep yur pockets are!
There is plenty of info on the internet, but check the SXOC, 200sx owners forum for owners and advice.
The 200sx is probably most famour on the drift circuits. Due to its limited slip differential you can drift this car easily.
In my opinion its probably the 2nd best drift car, behind the Toyota Corolla AE86.
My car had Mongoose exhaust, air filter, and modified ECU.
Make sure you have a boost gauge to check the boost you are running. If to much you will blow your engine!
Try to buy from an enthusiast as it tend to have been well looked after. Check insurance before purchase also as this could be expensive.
For those of you who have,and you have my undying gratitude,sat through my painfully long and meandering rambles before will no doubt have realiesd two things about me. 1. - I love cars. 2. - I love Fords and Vauxhalls. You'll have read me wittering on about Sierras I've owned and Sierras I want,about Cavaliers I want and Cavaliers.......so on and so on etc. Well it might suprise you to know that in amongst these many Dagenham dustbins and Luton litterbins I've actually owned not one but three Nissans though not always by choice.I confess now that these are the only three cases of brand treason I've committed and the fact that they were all Nissans is pure happenchance. About three and a half years ago while on a seeming everlasting spell cashing my dole cheques and with my then XR4x4 Sierra(oh not again...Yawn!!!) to expensive to run I was offered a Bluebird(which after a week I rather ungracefully christened my Bluebucket)for £60.The then boyfriend of an ex-girlfriend reckoned on selling me a bailer but when it comes to the automobile you don't get one over Blackbob that easy and thinking the suspension about to go and the engine breathing it's last smirked of to the pub beaming at the thought of me with this soon to expire Datsun but(I did take it for a test run before parting with 3/4 of a gyro)after pumping up the rear tyres - suspension sorted - and replacing the missing air filter - engine sorted had a cheap run about with Mot and tax. The second time of Nissanship came this summer when starting my new job and with my Cavy on axle stands,the engine scattered all over the house I was again in need of a cheap motor.Incidently after running the Bluebucket for 3 months I traded it in as a deposit against my now Cav SRi16v.At my new job and by the end of the first week a Nissan Sunny was offered for £100 T&T'd till January just past so I became a Nissan owner for a second t
ime. In my last job,driving for a bakery,the bossman owned a grey yet completely standard '93 L-reg Nissan 200SX which though nice enough completely failed to capture my imagination somehow.A few months before I left this job a few mates of long years standing started working for the dealership where I now work and as I finished at around 9.30am would drop in and see them for a blether on my way home.Everytime I dropped by I'd notice that their boss(and mine now)also had a 200SX which I thought odd as I'd never even noticed these cars beforehand and suddenly there were two.Though my boss at the bakery may have had a standard plain looking one their boss's 200SX was candyapple red with lowered suspension,17' alloy wheels and a boot spoiler which overall transformed the look of this car.It had been sitting,apparently,for at least six months because due to marital break-up and one thing and another he'd just lost interest.I coveted his alloys convinced they'd fit my Cav and they would have made my SRi look stunning so finding that he couldn't sell the car offered to buy the wheels - and was flattly refused. After starting the job and still wanting these wheels I bidded my time.On finding the Cavy wheels fitted the Sunny I tried again but this time offering to buy the car instead.He agreed a price of £300 and pleased as punch became the owner.The wheels in mint condition being worth at least £600 and about £850 new I knew I had a bargain.To my utter horror although the SX had the same four-stud wheel pattern as the Sunny(and the Cav)the actual PCD was wider on the SX and my wheels would never fit - niether do they fit my Sierra.I found myself with a 1990 H-reg Nissan 200SX that had rotten sills a boot floor more holy than the Archbishop of Canterbury and what's worse the thing was automatic. Being handy with the welding torch and finding myself stuck with this beast I decided to make the best of i
t and repair it.Then I drove it - I'd not even test driven the thing because I'd been only after it's wheels but on driving it I found that actually I'd,by default,landed myself with a nice quick car. Running from 1989-1994 the S13 Nissan 200SX is powered by either a 1.8 or 2.0 16 valve turbo charged engine which produces a factory-claimed 169 bhp (though 160 would be more usual for the 1.8 CA18DET like mine) which is good for a 1.8 engine,that when compared to the 89bhp of the 1.8cvh in the Sierra or the 112bhp of my Astra GTE or MK2 Cav SRis engines,though of course,these are all 8 valve and non turbo-charged (naturally aspirated) engines,still thats a very repectable output for it's size. To bore you all some more I'll take a brief interlude to explain turbo charging for any that aren't sure about it.Turbo charging or forced induction is one method for cramming in more fuel/air mixture than the engine can naturally take or should I rightly say,atmospheric pressure can naturally provide.On the induction stroke of a four stroke engine when the piston moves down the cylinder it creates/or leaves behind it an area of low pressure which as air pressure will always seek to equalise is filled by the higher air pressure outside the engine.Popular belief has it that the piston draws in air when in actual fact the higher atmospheric air pressure flows in to fill the area of lower pressure inside the cylinder.The thing is that it will never fill the cylinder with more than by the force of atmospheric pressure.A turbo charger on the other hand is a turbine that is set into the exhaust system,usually between the manifold and he exhaust pipe that as the exhaust gases flow through the exhaust and pass the turbine they will spin the turbine - the faster the exhaust gasflow the faster the turbine spins.Connected to the exhaust turbine by a shaft,running in bearings,is another turbine sitting in the air induction flow,usual
ly just be fore the fuel injectors which as the exhaust turbine spins will also spin and suck the air in and pump it into the cylinder cramming more air and fuel than by atmospheric pressure alone the bonus being as more flow is pumped in then more exhaust gases are pumped out which increases the speed of the turbo.This continues till desired boost is reached around about 150,000rpm when a valve within the turbo,called a wastegate opens to allow excess pressure to bleed off and to maintain correct boost pressure.Seeing that at low engine speeds there isn't much exhaust flow to spin the turbine theres equally not enough flow to spin the induction turbine and won't be till the engine speeds up - this delay while waiting for the engine/exhaust flow/rturbine to speed up is called turbo lag.Also a large turbine takes longer to speed up but once going pushes more air into the intake. Although many will understand these principles well enough there will also be some that don't and may like to know so if anyone would like to leave constructive comment or opinion on whether they found it useful or just plain gibberish I'd like to hear as although it's all straight forward in my own mind expressing it in a way that others will understand is something I find far less straight forward - I don't want to get into formulas etc and try to put it clearly and concisely but have trouble just now truly telling if this is what I do. The Nissan SX has a relatively small Garret Aireasearch T25 turbo but still suffers from turbo lag which is noticeable until you reach about 2500/2800rpm.There is an intercooler but it is placed under the wing taking in air from the wheelarch not only is it a sily place to take cooling air from but the route the intake flow has to go is longer and unnessecary which does much to stiffle potential power.Once the turbo starts to have an effect you get a rush of power right up until 6500rpm(on mine anyway which i
s in standard t une).With the smaller turbo you get less boost pressure and the SX has a relatively modest amount of boost at about 10psi. but this makes for a reliable unstressed application.The fueling and ignition is taken care of by the Nissan ECCS engine management system and the fuel is delivered by a multi-point fuel injection system while the ignition spark is taken from a crank angle sensor and the ECU controls both these plus the idle speed.This system has both a 'limp home' mode or LOS limited operation strategy which automatically runs the engine within much safer peramiters should it detect a sensor fault and the ability to self-test,not only activating the LOS system but storing the fault code into the memory for a mechanic with the right fault code reading equipment to bring up later.It is possible with a list of fault codes to read them yourself by turning a screw on the ECU and reading the number of flashes of a LED on the ECU The 200SX has an attractive look with a two-door bodt shell with a long low bonnet line pop-up headlights,sleek tail with a hatchback rear door sitting low it reminds me of something between a porsche 944 and a Lotus. The driving position is Capri-like,while not quite on the floor but low to the road.Everything is in easy reach and tastefully done not with the acres of shiny grey plastic that is usual for a Nissan,it's uncluttered even sparse with comfortable bucket seats that grip you in the corners.It is suprisingly un-Nissan like in all respects except the reliability.Normally crammed full of switches and buttons the whole cockpit has a clean thought out feel grey carpeted and airy with good visibility,ventilation and heating.There's little room in the back for more than two small adults and although the rear hatch looks large the boot space is deceptively small but then this is not the kind of car you would buy for it's practicality. On the road it feels solid and th
e steering is power assisted yet feels weighty and balanced,bearing in mind that mine has been lowered and stiffened it grips the road like a train on rails.While driving a car near its limits and approaching a corner a bit too fast I like to ease off the accelerator rather than brake and I find this car has a disconcerting habit of changing gear on me when I least expect it,that said it is my first automatic and maybe my driving style would have to change to suit automatic gearboxes but if I were inclined to keep the car the more likely course of action would be to change it to a manual g/box.The overall handling is good though and as it is rear wheel drive feels direct and alive feeding back through the steering the car would definetly benefit from manual transmission as slight adjustments in throttle position can effect gearchanges which make it hard on B-road to set the car up for corners.Also the acceleration would improve and the fuel economy slightly aswell this being about 22mpg though I do tend when driving it to hammer it where ever I go.Thee is ABS brakes on board which feel positive and safe. The top speed is around 145mph or so I have seen on the clock and the 0-60 takes 7 seconds with the 1/4 mile coming up in 15.08 seconds(this is for the manual) avg. fuel consumption @25mpg with super-unleaded,it can run on unleaded but it isn't advisable as you'd be relying on the knock sensor to stay out of trouble.Power @160bhp and cars in good condition seem to go for around £1500-2500.K&N Induction kit @£70 while a HKS kit would be @£180.Reconditioned turbo @£450 As I said at the start I never actually bought the car for itself rather for it'd wheels and finding them no use to me am stuck wondering what to do with it.Originally I was going to rob the wheels and sell off the good parts i.e engine,turbo,suspension,panels,bonnet and doors seperate as I reckon on making some money back to pay for the initial cost,now I don
't know.Although I li ke the car I have my Cavalier to rebuild an engine for it to get it through it's Mot and then a whole new 2.0 16v engine to build for the Cav to make it a lot faster.This plus the fact that I'm determined to get a Sapphire Cosworth leaves me no time,money or inclination for the SX and therefore wil probably break it for spares
I have owned my Nissan now for six years. That is a long time to own a car - for me anyway. The thing is I have never got bored with it, and as time has passed and the value decreased the problem has increasingly been, what do I replace it with. I have gone through the marriage and babies thing, so another car has had to be purchased for the family. Thus the Nissan is now the second car - so money for this second car is less than I would like, so there is absolutely nothing to compare - even with another 2 or 3 grand in part ex with the Nissan that would compare. The performance is excellent - once that turbo kicks in look out. And it still looks as good today as it did when I bought it (red is definately the colour to get)- a liitle TLC is all that was required. I have had no major problems so costs have been low - it is a solid well built vehicle. I have had to replace the battery every couple of years - it needs a good battery to turn the engine - anything less and it may catch you out. I have done the oil changes myself - again required to keep the turbo in good health. I always said that the only thing I would change it for would be a nice Jag XJS as I have always wanted one - but to get a good one these days is becoming difficult. My other option is to go for a slightly newer 200sx (not the new shape - just not the same) with the leather seats and the 2 litre engine - that would keep me happy for a good while!!
I love this car! I can't think of any other car that you could buy for £2000 that will accelerate to 60 mph in about 7 seconds and keep going to 145mph. I've used it daily for three years and it has never broken down in that time. I average between 25mpg (going for it) to 35mph(long motorway journeys). My insurance is £350 a year (31 yrs old/full ncd/medium risk area). I've found a good independant local garage and spend about £500 a year for servicing, tyres etc. My car has now done 135k and is 11 years old but despite all the warnings about turbo's exploding etc every major component is original and showing no signs of giving up yet. Anyway now my wife isn't looking over my shoulder the juicy bits. I've had wheelspin in 1st, 2nd & 3rd gear when the roads are damp. I can beat most hot hatches away from the lights but I have had to change my trousers a few times when I've lost the back end in the wet (always quickly recovarable, thankfully). There is a small amount of turbo lag but when you hit 2800 revs it feels good! This car is really a sport tourer. It hasn't quite got the handling abilities to make it an out and out sports car, but if you can stand the looks (good from the front and rear, a bit like a capri from the side) and can put up with the small rear seats, you can't go wrong.
They don't make 'em like this any more may be a cliche, but it's certainly true for this most excellent sports car which offers, in its class, pretty unparalled performance with a dash of practicality. I hadn't seen this model until it was recommended by a friend who knew what I was looking for. My criteria were something sporty; had to be very good looking, fast, reliable (so that was a TVR out then!), and more than 2 seats (to stop friends sulking). The 200SX fitted this perfectly, and the fact that a 6 year old model (as was) was within my price range certainly helped. Nearly 3 years on I'm a very happy camper. The car's not perfect - but it's not that far off. On the downside it drinks petrol like it's going out of fashion, especially round town and if you open up the throttle in any serious way. At the proverbial steady 56mph consumption is surprisingly good. But you don't buy a car like this to drive at a steady 56...... More downside: It's insurance group 17 which is pretty 'ouch' and some insurers won't touch it; parts are expensive and I've yet to find a trustworthy garage that can deal with it and not be 'rip-off-city' locally. But that's about it. And all that is certainly forgotten when you're on the open road and put your foot down..... The 200bhp engine does deliver quite blistering performance. Couple that with the turbo and you have some excellent standstill-fast times too. In fact I've not experienced better performance from anything until we get into 'silly money' category - the type of car that most folks need a big lottery win to afford. In some ways the 200SX is a compromise, between being a 'full on' sportster and something more staid. That makes it sound dull, but the compromises are just far enough on the sporty side to make this a winner. For example, the driver doesn't sit in a '
proper' sports cockpit, you're just a bit higher up than that. So not the full sports experience, but enormously improved visibility (especially if you're short like me). The backseat is great for small people, but if your mates are all 6' plus they won't have to mind travelling with their knees up their nostrils! Luggage space is 'OK' - that compromise thing again. The boot has room for one large and one medium rucksack, for example. And that's it. It also has a very weird thing going on - put stuff in above the 'fill line' and it won't shut (so out goes my old trick of sitting on the boot and bouncing to cram more stuff in!). Overall there's enough room easily for a couple going on vacation, but certainly not a family of 4. Reliability has proved great. The car only misbehaved once and that was due to an incorrect diagnosis by the local branch of 'Cowboys R Us' - aka the Nissan garage. The ABS is perhaps a little premature in kicking in; the seatbelt is positioned to strangle short drivers and the rear window demister which drains the battery in minutes if you're stationary, doesn't have a warning light to show it's on - and is ideally positioned to be switched on with your knee if you're not paying attention! But those are minor gripes. The power steering is perfect. Unlike many models I've tried, it doesn't become ridiculously overresponsive at high speeds (so no unplanned U turns!); but is excellent when parking - thanks to no talent of mine I can now park in a space just 3/4 inches bigger than the car - without the bicep building manoeuvres my last model needed! This car comes into its own on the open road, however. It does twice the legal speed limit in this country without a rattle or judder. In fact it's horribly easy to be coasting down the motorway, feeling like you're doing 80 to discover you're at 110! Speed
o watching has to become a habit. It's a real driver's car. Rear wheel drive (of course!), with superb handling, even on wet and slippery roads. I've not had to take it through serious snow yet; but I have discovered the suspension doesn't like being driven across fields and deeply pitted country 'lanes'. No mention of this model would be complete without talking about its looks. I may be superficial, but I wanted something that looked good - and this certainly does - sleek and sporty with none of those silly big plastic spoilers. Mine may be past the first flush of youth, but people still look at it - OK so I'm a poser - shoot me! As you may have gathered, I love my car! I'm disappointed that Nissan have chosen to turn the model into some kind of family tourer. But that seems to happen to me whenever I find a car that's just 'right' - they stop making it or change it out of all recognition. As far as I'm aware there are no new models on the market that offer what I'm after, so me & Damocles (that's what he's called - all my cars are 'he') are going to be together for some time yet