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      20.06.2010 22:48
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      A must have if you are brave enough and can afford it

      Travelling to Japan for work on and off during the 1990s was really a culture shock.I made alot of friends very quickly and blokes naturally talk cars down the pub,Izakaya in Japan.Had anybody outside of Japan ever heard of a Nissan Skyline prior to 1990? Probably no,neither had I.
      Best car in the world at that time in 1990,my choice Ferrari F40,my pal Yuji laughed and said Nissan Skyline and all the Japanese guys agreed.How can that be possible,I had never heard of it? All I knew was the Ferrari F40 was a jet fighter on wheels that could push upto 200 mph plus and 0-60 in around 4 secs,a true thoroughbred racer.Tricky handling maybe but not much could top it at the time,but they insisted being quite offended by my lack of knowledge and my Pal Yuji invited me to see his R32 GT-R.
      When I saw this metallic grey Nissan with its faux Ferrari style round lights at the back,big alloys,huge exhaust,orange indicator lights,I must admit feeling a bit unimpressed.It did not look that special,interior was dull,dark,boring even,ok nice sports seats that supported well and everything was very Japanese.I could have been looking at a Datsun Blue Bird for all I knew with a body kit!
      How wrong I was! Ever heard of Tskuba mountain? Probably not but I was about to find out later that week.We all went for a midnight run,something they all did quite regularly,Yujis motor felt quick comming out of Tokyo down the expressway and I will admit it was growing on me a little.Problem was it was speed limited and this would cut in very quickly at around 110 mph,it had real push in the back acceleration and I guess it could keep up with just about anything,maybe they were right.
      At Tskuba mountain there were all kinds,Silvias,Chasers,Curren,more Skylines,all kinds of Jap machinery we never had in the UK,maybe the Sylvia,we would recognise it as the original Nissan 200 SX with the popup lights.
      They were having light hearted races up and down the twisting mountain road,drifting,first time I had seen this kind of thing,very impressive but looked dangerous to me.
      I was lucky enough to have a go in the Skyline on the way back to Tokyo,yes it was quick but better than an F40,no way, more like a Sierra Cosworth.
      Mid 1990s they killed off the R32 and much to my friends disgust the R33 was released.Its too tame,too big,its lost its feeling,etc He bought one anyway,a new 1995 Purple R33 GT-R V spec.This in my opinion was less raw than the R32,more practical and maybe a car I would consider buying even today.The RB engine is so highly tunable,standard form pumps out 280 BHP on the standard Japanese car but they are capable of 800 BHP or more!
      Forget economy,you buy one of these for the experience so expect poor mpg of 15-20 mpg at best,it is a straight 6 2.6 litre twinturbo! The V spec is the best,watch out for people claiming theirs is a V spec,possibly they don't know.The electronic suspension and 4wd system are superior to the standard car.Its the only car I know of that drives like a 100% rear wheeldrive car in perfect conditions and can transfer power 100% to the front depending on grip.All this sounds complicated and could be really expensive to fix here in the UK,probably more in Japan.Most Japanese buy new as cars are half UK price,£25K GBP or so for a new Skline,we would all buy them!
      When the R34 came out my pal was very happy again,this smaller,more Aston Martin looking car was getting back to what the original car was all about.I never got round to having a go with this car but this one is definitely on my list as well as the latest R35.I went to see one last year at the Goodwood Festival and for £50K new it looks a bargain,too much for me at the moment!
      Now there are Skylines and then there are GT-Rs.The Standard non GT-R cars are ok but nothing like the same.A bit like comparing a Sierra Cosworth to a Sierra 2.0 GL,so don't pay over the odds for a cheap import is all I will say.The Skyline 2.5 GTs-T or whatever model it is, is just the top of the range family car,quite quick but not a real racer.The GT-R cars are in a league of their own,I shyed away back then from buying due to high running costs of such a complicated car,not many people in the UK could look after it,parts maybe difficult to get and insurance expensive.I was very happy with my Twin turbo Supra,300 ZX and GTO imports,all gave me plenty of performance equal to the GT-Rs.
      The R32 is the purest,R33 are more plentiful many around for under £10K and the R34 is probably the best second hand buy if you can find one for around £15K-£20K.I bet they are far cheaper in Japan!

      Thanks for reading my review and I hope you found it interesting.If this has been useful to you and you take time to leave Your rating it will be appreciated and hope you will take a look at my other reviews sometime.I also leave reviews on the Ciao website about this and other items,many thanks!

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      01.12.2009 00:55
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      Great car roomy fast and still fresh looking to turn a mass of heads.

      I own a R33 Spec series 2 type M GTS-T GTS25T.

      I have been a huge fan of Skylines ever since i saw my first picture back in 1989 with the then release of the R32 models.

      A few years ago i was lucky enough to own a R32 to which i will write a review probably after this review,The R32 was a great car so when we was offered an R33 i felt no reserves.

      As a car it is great,the looks still look fresh and the car does not have an aged look to which many cars fall short as the years pass.
      Internally the car looks great and has worn well.OK the mileage is around 60,000 miles on this n reg car,but apart from slight ware on the seat bolster which is down to the seats being a fabric design bucket recaro seat,and more down to me being short so a squeeze between the bolster and wheel has quicked this ware .But Apart from that the buttons still look fresh and the white edgeing which is on the button and arms to display which each button is still looks like new.
      Engine wise a regular service keeps the car running at its best i do this every 3000 miles or twice a year,ok some times i do go over that but too long and the car will start telling you,oil wise can be expensive as you do not want to add cheap oil to these engines,reasons why risk any damage and again the wrong oil will be felt in the car.Best bet is to get on the Skyline forums and see what oil suits your type of driving IE track and mods on the car.
      General ware and tear of the cars is great also, i have owned this car for a good few years now and apart from pads and a tyre and now ware on the bushes is starting but when i was quoted by the mechanic he worked it out as cheap running for the mileage i had covered mixed with the years i had owned the car.The Electrics still work fine.

      Overall the cars are great the car features great handling on this model it features hicas (High Capacity Actively Controlled Suspension) which can be helpful but to people whom do not like it can lock it out with a bar made for the job.
      The GTS25T model suits me as it offers 5 seats and for a sporty car is very roomy,we happily sit 3 adults in the back with leg room in the front.
      This has been helpful with our children whom until recently were sat on booster seats.
      The Engine on this model is great it offers a 250bhp stock engine but as with any Skyline or RB engined car it is not what it is but what it can do,i see this single turbo models on this engine running at 1000bhp and there is one in my town running at 800bhp and used as a daily driver,due to these being a cheaper option to the GTR model meant that many were sold and modding companies caught onto this with a mass market of aftermarket parts, which is handy for the stock parts Nissan still stock parts for these cars and parts can be ordered through them.Small mods made great gains on these strong tunable engines.
      Box wise mine is the automatic version,before any comments about this box and not being sporty,beware that automatic covers a huge area,i have driven boring rubbish slow Automatics as i have driven slow and boring stick/manuals.After all there are a mass of well put together automatics in different forms from the new Nissan GT-R R35 to the EVO X to the Ferrari Enzo and F430 to the tiptronic Porsches and so on.
      The Automatic Skyline on this model is great enough for me to write about,the autobox has a manual overdrive button along with a snow button which def helps in bad weather all mixed with a power button which allows redline changes through the gears.and offers rapid power but to be fair the box is so sensitive to the foot a light touch allows nice smooth changes and ideal for town driving,but foot down not hard but down more creates this hold then it is like lighting a firework rocket as then the car thrusts forward and flies into the turbo.I have owned turbo models before but this gives me a real buzz and a huge smile,just like i am sat in a rocket.
      These cars are good fun roomy for passengers and yourself,very comfy to drive long distances and a pleasure to drive at that,almsot daily has people turning to look at it mixed with people taking pics and vids and commenting how nice the car is.
      This car will def give you a smile as it really is a pleasure to own and drive and does make you feel like you own a 250,000k car,not a reason to buy the car but a bonus as it is nice for other people to enjoy these great cars.
      Fuel wise stick with high octane fuel whatever your thoughts it does make a difference,i have added a low octane grade and def felt the difference with no question.I now travel a 10 mile round trip to get the right fuel.
      As said mine is the Spec series 2 Version on the R33 there is the spec 1 upto a spec 1.5 model all differ in certain ways,again joining a Skyline owners forum will give a detailed run down on differences a few are a passenger airbag and a different turbo and bonnet to the spec 1.
      This car has never let me down and been super realiable.

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      20.05.2009 00:21
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      A car that needs respect. a truely all time great.

      Nissan Skyline R33 gts-t.

      I imported my Skyline R33 gts-t in 2006 from Japan. The car was in immaculate condition and the only modifications were a front and rear strut brace.
      At the time of importing the Skyline I also owned a Subaru Impreza Turbo, so It would be interesting to see how these two cars compared.

      Firstly the Skyline has 250bhp compared to the Impreza'a 215bhp, but as the Skyline is the heavier car, the performance in a straight line was very similar to that of the Impreza. Out of the two, the Skyline was definitely the more fun, being rear wheel drive, no traction control, it led to many hairy moments in wet conditions. Many a time would I find myself facing the wrong way on a wet roundabout.

      Out of town on fast twisty B roads the Skyline with it's HICAS 4 wheel steering felt very nimble indeed. My Skyline had sports alloys fitted with 225 on the front and 285 on the rear, it was also lowered. The suspension kit on my Skyline which was fitted in Japan, although very low, still had good damping qualities and was not too harsh over bumps.

      It turned heads everywhere it went, and it had a performance back box which exploited the sound of its straight 6 2.5 litre engine.
      The only down side to the car that I could find was the small boot space for a car of this size.

      On the plus side it had automatic climate control, electric folding mirrors, and the HICAS 4 wheel steering.

      My Impreza was definitely the faster car from point to point, but the Skyline was the most entertaining. Every time you went into a corner you were wondering whether you were going to come out of it alive.

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      16.03.2006 19:34
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      very fast, very controllable and sturdy, very original shape - dont follow the sheep

      "okay, okay.. ant you can handle this - its your dream car, you've waited 4years to turn the key in one of these and your sat in the drivers seat of what is quite possibly the most stunning example of an R33 gts-t you've clapped eyes on since making the decision to buy one. reet here goes. *turns key* ...whoah thats a seriously meaty engine - I can feel it right under the car burbling away. reet - follow Pa who dropped me off in his 1.1 punto out of bradford. wow the suns shining - nice day! ..hang on ..whats everyone stopped dead in their tracks on the pavement for? ..oh they're ogling at the car in amazement and pointing! reet - keep eyes on the road ant, theres dad turning left out of the city centre, you can handle this ..oh my god the car is gorgeous to steer - it just doesn't feel like a big car... and that roar from the engine when you touch the gas pedal and I'm only doing 30mph! this car is stunning. whats that button do? whats that button do? oh never mind I'll figure that out when I get home, gas, brakes, clutch etc are all where they should be you'll be oreet driving it ant.. okay.. dads just turned onto the mway - the oil temp light is on so maybe I'll just push the gas pedal a notch annnnddd.....WHHHOOOOAAA-HOOOOO-HOOOOO-HOOOOOO!!!!! omg thats comical I'm doing 70 already and it didn't even try!!? didn't feel that fast looking out the front screen but EVERYONE in my rear view mirror has become dots!! hang on!!! theres 4th and 5th to go through as well!!?!! right behave ant ..I better let dad catch up so I can follow him home - **drums fingers for a coupla minutes while dad in punto catches up** there he goes past me now with his jaw on his lap hahahahahahaha man I love this car!!"

      I picked up my Nissan Skyline R33 gts-t about 3weeks ago now
      having collected it from Bradford. I just wanted to write an
      initial (sort of) review as I'm still in the honeymoon stages with it and cant take it out on the road enough. The above is a series of thoughts on my first drive home in my new car. Up until now the fastest car I've been in was a 3.4 audi and I thought that was quick but this thing has just
      destroyed any concept of what I thought was quick and still
      continues to do so 3 weeks later. heres a breakdown:

      performance:
      very very fast, engine sounds beautiful (I've a 4.5inch can on the rear so it helps make it snort but you can feel the power being sent to the rear wheel drive. half a pedal is more than enough to have it storming down the mway with the turbo whistling gently in the bg - honestly you'll never bother having the music too loud again with an engine that sounds this fantastic. getting used to driving it in 2nd and 3rd around busy city centres is strange at first as the car sounds really viscious but its nothing to the engine - turbo isn't even spooling up - above that is motorway gears really but for short shifting about town nothing will have heads turning more with that "what the hell is that monster" look on their faces than gently pootling this around town at 20mph in 2nd gear! handling is nothing short of superb - it clings to roads brilliantly and the HICAS (rear wheel steer) is strange at first but very handy on tight corners. in the wet the car is VERY difficult itching to rear wheel spin out first chance it gets - you'll be being overtaken by everyone at first but who cares your in a skyline man!

      comfort - very comfortable to drive - I'm 6ft3in so a bit of leg room is very handy, little details like the extra fat interior door trim allows you to rest your arm on it comfortably whilst driving, the central arm rest allows you to hold the gearstick and rest your arm, even your clutch foot has a rest for when its not being used (my left leg circulation is chronically bad from driving older cars so this is a boon!!) rear seat space is good and leg room also good I'm told - its as practical a 4person car as it is a 1person commuting motor or track day beast! I've got adjustable coilover suspension on mine which is set to 2nd softest so it absorbs some of the road bumps. Britains roads give you the odd 'ooffff!' moment but no worse than any other motor I think :-/

      style - are you kidding me? I had the choice of an equally immaculate twin turbo supra parked next to it for the same cash and I went with this hands down after seeing it! Its full on Miami haha! The lines are gorgeous, its a big long car with the recognisable rear afterburner lights but the front are equally nice quad light style affairs hidden under a nicely shaped and long bonnet that looks quite badboy from low down. the whole car is gorgeous and I like it even more than the R34 now altho all skylines are stunning shapes. Its a low car too which is strange as all photos n pics tend to make it look like its sat quite high up. only let down on standard models is the rims - get some nice deep dish 17's or upwards on it and you've done all the mods you'll need to - they're that sexy!

      okay so theres faster still on the road (there always is) -
      the R32 gtr will do a 0-60 in 4.5 seconds and a high spec porsche will redefine Gforce for you in 3.2 or something but we're talking 5.5 to 6 seconds 0-60 for under 6k folks! you pay that plus interest on a Corsa or Punto over 3yrs an its worth NOWT once you have finished paying out!

      I'll write a more solid review a few months from now as I live with it in the meantime if your thinking about picking one up, shop about, go to an owners meet, hell contact me (anthonystephenmcgrath@msn.com) and ask me some questions about it (I looked at a good few of em and have seen a couple of lesser models but nothing I'd be ashamed to climb in) but get in one and have a spin if you get the chance you'll love it straight away.

      in the meantime can everyone who reads this please pray for no rain (its not the best car to have in the rain but at least it makes you behave hehehe!)

      cheers
      ant

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      MAY2006 - review update.
      okay so I've had this motor a few months now and thought i'd put a little bit more info, try and adjust a coupla comments and the like. sorry if my notes and comments seem a bit scatty here and flitting from one to another - I'm writing it as I think about it too.

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      performance/handling:
      good god its fast it really is. at present I cant boot mine as I'm having alternator probs (below) but nothing this coming wkend and a few cups of tea wont help me fix with any luck! the car is comical - i've left most things standing with half throttle and that were only because the car was detting (explained why below).. now its sorted she can really be floored and the push from the rwd is abolutely ballistic! It corners brilliantly tho I've never pushed it as if anything were to ever go wrong I'd end up crashing it (i'm no Colin McCrae). Despite all that ability/power tho the car can be driven in a very refined manner and I'm much more fond of doing that - its just very very handy to have that power when you wanna overtake a truck on the A6-bloody-9!!
      a friend took me out in his gts-t which is tastefully modded and running 1.3bar of boost and this was like being aboard a missile - 85mph in 2nd gear and top speed above 160mph - trust me if yer after a liner, if you've got the readies to hand get a gtr but I reckon you'd be just as blown away with a gtst - they're no slowcoach and certainly not with a few bits under the hood!!


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      maintenance:
      a few things have given me a spot of bother - most recently the alternator bearings went on it but i'm told its common so dont know. anyhow replacement weren't hard to find from a breaker and fitting it aint too difficult either.

      Changed oil (5w40 full synth) and oil filter - easy enough but with my bumper being so low its a bit difficult getting under to the nut - however all in all its not much different changing oil on any other motor!

      Sparkplugs changed last week - this made a bit of a difference and smoother idling - cool. get NGK iridium 7's 8's or 9's (number=hardness) and get em off Ebay for 65quid or something - halfords wanted 27quid each?!

      the big one for me at the minute is the air/fuel mixture which is slightly off thanks to the orig owner having a boost controller fitted. he also fitted an apexi AirFlowController too. he then removed the boost controller which had the turbo boost set to 0.7bar max putting the car back to standard 0.5bar boost. (I only know this because the memory button on the boost gauge flicks the needle to 0.7bar).
      however he hadn't removed the AFC which had air flow offsets causing the car to detonate at higher boost/rpms - I set this AFC back to zero setting and it seems to be running alot better with very little detting now - I'm taking it to a tuner anyhow for a full remap and new ecu soon so that should sort the problem out.
      I know this doesn't really help readers but if nothing else it should give you something to be aware of should you be looking at a non-standard example (and very few are left alone now). anyone can up the boost very easily on these cars but your lookin at probs down the line.


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      comfort/build quality:
      this is one I feel I have to update - a few months of driving it back n to to work are catchin up with me now - britains roads aren't the best are they really?!! I've found myself avoiding potholes in roads, slowing down for bumps and wotnot. sideroads are a worry with their speedhumps/traffic calming measures.
      The bucket seat is a bit low for me now (tho not as insanely low as a friends of mine - cant see the bonnet sat in his!!) and messing around with my gammy left leg circulation. HOWEVER - mine isn't standard so be sure your comfy in one your looking at buying :) overall the comfort is great, everything is where you need it to hand, indicators on the right which is strange at first but much better as you can steer, flick indy stalk with right and operate gearstick with left :) all pedals are easy to reach, handy clutch-foot rest and the interior trim on the right door is fat enough to rest elbow on whilst holding steering wheel
      suspension is good but like I mentioned - a harsh pothole will make the car feel like its gonna rattle to bits. my coilover suspension however and puts the car very low to the ground.

      I have a real issue with ppl slamming car doors and these simply dont need you to do that as they sound like their gonna fall off if you do!! give them a gentle pull tho and they'll very elegantly suck into place.

      cabin noise is quite minimal - i recently had a decat pipe fitted which really makes the zorst roar (kakimoto zorst - 5inch exit I think).. I was a bit worried with the windows as their frameless so I were expecting outside noise to easily make its way into the car but the windows suck up nicely to the roof and around the door aperture keeping noise to a minimum - you'll only start to get a bit bothered after a few hour drive I think.

      back seats are comfy, very low down making only the tallest rear passengers appear in yer rear view mirror but had no complaints doing a coupla mway journeys.

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      economy:
      Dont get one if your worried about this kind of thing - simple as that. The thing will suck a bp garage bump dry if you want it to - it runs off Optimax best - putting morrisons road chowder in it aint gonna help you in the long run. I'm also told a bottle of octane booster with every full tank will make a difference too but not tried that yet. I dont know much about fuel economy figures but I do know that if you put 40quid in in the morning and boot it round rounds all day most of it'll be gone! it can guzzle it dry ...but you'll have a riot of a laugh and a beaming grin at the end of it!!

      my journey to work is 15miles each way and half of that is town driving lowering the economy but it still isn't criminal really - probably put about 50-60quid a week in and thats with some spirited driving and evenings out in it too.
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      insurance:
      crazy but then its my first yr owning a turbo motor and they've rogered me good as i also have 3points. however I'm on a 10month accelerator and as soon as this yr is up I've been given quotes from insurance companies that are half the 1600quid insurance cost admiral have stiffed me for :(

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      overview:
      the liner is a fantastic car, stupidly fast, more than enough power and handling for a british road and very comfy for one or four passengers. running it aint cheap and certainly not if your gonna fly everywhere in it and insurance will hate you for owning one but if you only get one for a few years (as I planned to) you'll have a permanent smile on your face.

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        Authors Note Aefras challenge struck me as an extremely difficult opinion to write. I guess there are a number of factors that effect my undertaking; I only passed my driving test at the age of 28 (I'm now 30) and I've only bought one car, a Ford Sierra that had gone 250,000 miles before I acquired it for the whopping sum of £100. I currently own a fairly un-noteworthy Honda Concerto. It does what it's supposed to do but hardly turns heads. Finally I have very little engine knowledge. Sure I can tell the difference between an air filter and a distributor cap, but that's about as far as it goes. To this end I thought perhaps I might fill this section with one of my trademarked fiction pieces, and it really is fiction! Magnificent Machine. Alf Mellow loved to travel. Travelling was something that had become a fundamental part of his make-up, though his wife preferred Rimmel. For the last couple of years Alf had been driving the car he had bought for his wife, a bright red Ford Fiesta. It was, as Alf often said, adequate. But it didn't come close to matching the prestige that BMW 318 had before Alf had wrapped it around a tree the day after he'd lost his job. Of course there was something about that BMW that bought out the worst in him; a creeping sense of arrogance filled the mind with its creeping tentacles. Alf guessed (in his xenophobic way) it must be all the German spirits trapped inside the fabric of the car. The beemer had been a good car and had provided him with thousands of belligerent motoring miles, the Fiesta plenty of stale lady-like ones. His passion for Gran Turismo had enflamed a desire for a new car. Something he hadn't had before. It was time for something new. One day Alf drove past the Nissan garage and had been surprised to see a glittering Skyline R34 V Spec standing on the forecourt beckoning him to buy it. A pleading whisper filled his mind, 'Come on Alf. Touch me. Feel me. He
        ar me roar.' (The car was well a ware it wasn't particularly original) The midnight blue metallic paint reflecting the light that someone had obviously taken the time to angle for maximum effect. The shadow falling from the side pronounced the bulbous front. A front that housed an engine that packed in nearly three hundred horses. Alf wasn't even sure what it was doing on the lot. But it had his name on it. Unfortunately it also had a £50,000 price tag on it. Some one appeared to have slapped that right over his name, so only the top of the A could be made out. Alfs shoulders slumped, he slid a little deeper in to the foot well of the Fiesta and fixed his mind back on buying food for the rest of the week A trip around Tesco on this Saturday afternoon left Alf feeling even more despondent. The slow moving trudge of people shopping, shuffling toes and weary heads whose only attempts to reach normal speed was during a launch for the last piece of cheddar. Alf left the slow moving shop and entered his slow moving car. Slowly he passed by the garage once more, trying to ignore the call of Skyline pleading to him with its grumbling mantra. Alf returned home determined not to let the car get to him. But the car would not let go, every minute and every hour felt like a life time. Alf?s yearning to accelerate and drive at speed chewed at his desire bone life until finally on the following Sunday afternoon his resolve caved and he found himself admiring the car from a foot away. Almost unaware he had dressed in the Armani he had bought in a clearance sale from a Knightsbridge store, smoothed down his unruly hair and with rare flourish presented himself to the sale assistant who had keenly spotted a potential buyer. The salesman's eyes sparkled like emeralds. The commission almost creating pound signs across his pupils. Alf looked closer. The salesman was actually wearing contact lenses. "Nice car isn
        ' t it'." "Sweet." Alf replied, the beauty of the car striking him almost speechless. The salesman began his pitch. "You can see how big the engine is just by looking at the bonnet, but despite its supposed to having 280bhp this engine is tuned to reach the optimum amount. This beauty can reach 40 in less than 3 seconds. Can you imagine that?" Alf drooled while the salesman continued. "I'll show you under the hood." The salesman, Mark (Alf noticed his name badge) drew the keys out of his pocket. Attached to a chrome N the keys glittered like platinum. Inserting the key the door to the chariot popped open to reveal the dark interior. The occasional fleck of red highlighted the detail and trim, whilst the white o-meters stood out from the dash like beacons of light on a foggy sea. The final streak of red on the revometer indicated those final couple of thousand of revs where the engine would scream for release. Alf's vision was obscured as Mark reached in to the car and popped the bonnet. The hood lifting a fraction and the voice inside Alf's' head increased with volume equal to the amount. Alf walked to the front of the car. A gazed upon the huge chrome turbo packed creation. The sales man stood next to him and chattered away words that drifted past Alf as he stared. The monologue almost entirely wasted, all but the last few words, 'a test drive if you want. Of course I'll need to see your license.' Despite the growing turmoil inside Alf held his composure. Reached into the jacket pocket and carefully plucked out the wallet he'd stuffed full of paper to make it look flush with 20's slid out the license and handed it to the salesman. 'I have to take a photocopy of this for the records,' advised Mark and on his heel he marched toward the sales office leaving Alf to continue staring. A twinkle caught the Alf?s eye. The keys. Mark had been good
        enough to leave the key sitting on the front seat. Alf strode to the side of the car and plucked up the ring by the 'N', the master key hung from and dangled catching the light as it swung back and forth in a hypnotic manner. The next few moments were something of a blur for Alf. He'd stepped into the car. Closed and locked the door. He slipped the key into the ignition with one hand as he adjusted the seat with the other. The engine turned over and at idle the chug of the motor filled the cockpit. The car throbbed with potential. Alf pulled down the seat belt and clipped himself in. Depressed the clutch, engaged the silver gear stick to first and whilst applying pressure to the accelerator and with the metronome tick emitting from the indicator slowly edged the car off its prime position on the sales lot. The car handled like a shark, a gentle flick of its tail flicked the car along at a gentle pace, but a stronger stroke from its power source and the beast accelerated to attack speed with a lightning response. As Alf drew on to the slip road that joined the M1 Alf could hear the incessant chatter his conscience telling him he must go back. Deep down Alf knew he had to stop. But the opportunity was there and it never would be again. He couldn't stop now, and as he took the car further from the show room the voice of reason dwindled until it could barely be heard over the rev of the engine and the sound of the dump valve releasing its awesome power. **Do take part in the Guides' writers' challenge CARS/MOTOR BIKES OF MEMORY. You don't have to be the owner or driver, just tell us of a car or bike which stayed in your mind. The rules re.....there are none. Just add a little consumer something. The only stipulation is that it should be in Motors category. If your choice isn't in the database dooyoo will give some priority to Motor suggestions (as long as they are flagged Motors). Opinions with s
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          Skyline- hmmm! In my opinion one of the greatest Streetcars of all time! R33, its good. R34, its great, but the R35 is awesome!!! Its great. My brother does streetracing over the rainbow bridge in Tokyo, and his two cars are the Nissan Skyline R34 and the Edonis 2001 road version. The handling of the Skyline is a bit sluggish compared to its rival the Honda NSX. But then, its also cheaper. If you get the Streetdrag Veilside version, that will beat most cars around for performance, but the engine is overly loud. But if its performance you want, then that doesnt matter. Whatever you do, dont base your choice on the film "The Fast and the Furious", as for some reason in that a Aerodynamics bodyparts company (NOS) makes you shoot out at 150 mph! Also the Toyota Supra isn't actually that quick, it does a 13 second quarter of a mile, not a 10 second one! Thats reserved for the likes of Koenigsegg and the Sledgehammer Corvette!

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            I have lusted after a Skyline for many a year, I had never had the chance to drive one of these cars and the UK price is well out of the reach of this mortal. Well a new one is anyway! I have just returned from Japan and whilst I was there I have been looking for a new car to replace my present Toyota Crown. The reason I am looking at a car in Japan is the price. Even with UK tax to pay on importation its still cheaper than UK dealer prices. However thats the subject of another opinion. My first port of call in my search for a new car was the main Nissan Dealer in Osaka and here they have 3 skyline models, the V-Spec II, the GT-R and the M-Spec. I will now do my best to explain what you get with each model but the salesman and all the information he gave me was in Japanese and I am trying my best to translate all this. All models have the same equipment levels but their technical specifications differ. As standard you get Sat-Nav, Air Con, Electric Everything, 4 Airbags (2 in the dash - passenger and driver) and 2 in the door pillars (one on each side), Anti Lock Braking, Active 4WD, 4 wheel steering, 18inch alloys and 6 speed manual transmission. There is also an option of 5 speed automatic transmission as well but that was 180,000 yen extra. (£980) All models have the same 2.6 litre engine but this engine is in a variety of tune for different models explained the salesman but all the brochures I was given report the same figure for BHP for each model. The GT-R is the first in the range and priced at 5,048,000 yen (£27,500). Next is the V-Spec II which is 5,740,000 (£31000), and the top of the range is the M-Spec at 5,950,000 (£32,200). Now the difference between the ranges as far as I can tell is that the V-Spec and the M-Spec have harder suspension for better cornering and produce their power quicker! The M-Spec apparently has adjustable suspension also. Thats if my poor Japanese is correct. Anyway,
            whats the car like to drive? Well, I took a test drive in a V-Spec II and I would just like to say that if you own one of these cars then you are one lucky SOB. As I went out with the dealer and my brother in law was in the back I didnt really get the opportunity to drive the car to my limits but from what I did experience! "WHAT A CAR". The acceleration is superb. 0-60 is said to be 5 seconds and I can believe it. Although getting the turbo to kick in from the moment you drop the clutch takes some practise. From a set of traffic lights I floored it and I could not believe how quickly the cars behind disappeared in my rear view mirror. This is a quick car. I have only been in one other car that was faster and that was a Lotus Carlton! Braking is just as amazing as the acceleration and after driving my 2 tonne tank around this was quite a shock as to how quickly it did stop. I do like a car that you can feel secure in the fact that you know it will stop. The accuracy of the cornering is superb, and for such a big car the turning at slow speed is excellent thanks to the power steering. High speed turning is helped by the stiff suspension and the electronics in the car which sort out any mistakes if you push things a bit too hard. The Skyline has a computer onboard which monitors things like the wheels, traction, etc and if it thinks something is wrong will adjust power or drive to correct this mistake. The Skyline is the only production car to have driven the old Nuremberg Ring circuit in less than 8 minutes, so I was told by the dealer with a big smile. The interior is plastic tastic as all the dash and interior trim is plastic, but if you buy Japanese you kind of expect it to be. Easy to clean, functional and relatively pleasing to the eye. The most amazing thing about the interior for me was the seats. Even though this is a sports car it still has four seats and even with me driving and the seat back
            as far as it would go (I'm just a tad under 6 foot) my brother in law who was sat behind me still had enough room in the back. (Although hes only 5'7) The front seats are these amazing bucket seats which hold both your backside and shoulders firmly in the seat. The seats in the M spec are full race items and can be fitted with full harness instead or as well as a seat belt, but this renders the rear seats useless. The other thing that smack you in the face about the dashboard is the centre console, the car I took out had a 6 CD in dash changer, MD and tape with more flashy lights than you can shake a stick at. On top of this is the Sat Nav system which is a sizeable LCD screen which shows the street you are driving down in 3D, so you get the building on the side of the road represented as blocks on your map. This screen also has all the car performance items on it. For example you can see how many G forces you are pulling when you move the car around the street. It might sound useless but its amazing to watch. You can also pull up all the car data as well as you drive along, such as Oil temperature, Oil pressure, Turbo Boost, etc. The list is quite long. If you are really sad though you can download all this information to your computer as the car has a serial interface lead linked to all the electronics. The styling of the outside of the car isnt to most peoples tastes, but for me the raw styling and uglyess of the body is what makes it such an appealing car. Nothing else looks like a Skyline except another Skyline. With its boxy rounded shape the Skyline definitely stands out if its in your rear view mirror. I didn't buy the car as my wife (the eternal voice of common sense) told we cant afford a new one, but I still lust after one of these cars. To buy one here is stupid as they are way too expensive compared to Japan, so I?ll have to keep saving my pocket money or maybe Father Christmas might be so kind as to leav
            e me one. I'm off to write my letter to Santa now :) © copyright 2002, Mike Porter.

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              This is the car of all cars. This car has got to be the nicest car out their (also my personal opinion). This is a car that not only has speed, but style. One of the great works of art straight from Japan. I have one of these babies. When I bought it, they were very rare in America. This is one of the hardest cars to find. This car is such an aggresive looking vehicle. It has the turbocharged 1.6 DOHC with 280hp. All this power is driven to a four wheel drive chassis. Most of the power is driven to the back of the car although and only to the front when needed. Even though this is what the car came with, it doesnt have that anymore...lol. I have all the goodies in here from Stereo system to turbo all the way to the racing edition air freshner's. Most of the parts are from the HKS company. That was the company that started me off with the Skyline...They were the first to make the "Ultimate" Skyline. My Skyline has an amazing 960hp. It has all the goodies from the best intercoolers, turbo exhaut manifolds, & NOS kits. It also has GReddy Racing Shocks supported by 18" Volk Racing LE37T's w/ Yokohama Parada's 225/40ZR-18's. This car is my baby, i just love taking it to the shows and races and watching all the attention that I get from it. (Especially from the woman...LOL). It also does some of the really extreme stuff. As eating up Supra's and RX-7's. (Even though I've lost a few). I would really recommend this car to anyone that loves to import race (or race in general). This car can demand the power that you would want or need. It is also a good everyday car. I give it 2-thumbs up and trully recommend it to anyone that has a life...LOL...j/k

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                Being a Nissan 200SX owner for 4yrs, I leapt at the opportunity to visit a local Jap car importer and go for a test drive in a 1997 GT-R33 V-Spec. Rather like the 200SX, the basic design is understated, but then the deep front spoiler and enormous boot spoiler just shout "pay attention" at you, in a sort of obtuse after-market stick-on sort of way. Visually you'll love it or loathe it! (I love it myself and actually prefer the softer lines of the GT-R33 to the more angular GT-R34 pictured). Inside, it's an upmarket 200SX again, sporting extra gizmos for a more involving driving experience. The back is certainly larger than the 200, making for bearable short to medium journeys for my 6ft frame, and a reasonable sized boot make this a semi-practical car! Behind the wheel, it makes you feel like a driving god... make no mistake, even in basic form, the GT-R33 is a complete license looser! 62mph comes up fast enough to embarrass or even better Italian and German high-powered marques, with the top end being limited to an absurd (for the UK) 155mph. Interestingly the ride and feel of the car was never harsh, which is indicative of the fact that this car is actually built to deliver more than most drivers will ever get out of it. So why beware? Well on the V-Spec, the electronic trickery that controls the 4 wheel drive, knows better than most drivers when things are going wrong, and what to do to correct matters. However, if you really over-cook it, and the V-Spec system takes over and then gives control back to you because it can't deal with the mess you've got yourself into - you'll be in an even worse state, and probably heading rapidly for the scenery. Having said that, in poor road conditions, it does an admirable job of sorting out minor driving goofs. (I am told that really experienced drivers prefer the non V-Spec model). Value for money and costs? Well, a good '97 GT-R could be had for
                around £20K, allowing for mods to the radio, speedo, rear diff and air intakes. But this car demands an enthusiastic driver, and that's gonna cost in terms of fuel and other running costs, so it will be an expensive partner. Would I buy one? Yes! (But only if I won the lottery). As many motoring journalists have said before, this is probably one of the best drivers cars ever made, as is most likely one of the quickest A to B cars around, and that includes Italian exotica!

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                  This car must be one of my top ten cars of all time. There are so many variations on the tweeking and tuning up that there are countless versions. One of my japanese "mates" has a skyline, and claims to have tweeked it to around 900 bhp, which shows that it's very, very easy to do so. Creature comforts also play quite a big part in the original skyline. It has this very funky little lcd display that can tell you how much g-force you are expieriencing when you accelerate and brake, and also when you are going around corners. It don't look all that bad either......... Now to the important things... 280 bhp out of a twin turbo engine, and a top speed of 155 miles an hour doesn't sound like much (?), but it's how you get there that counts. With accelleration that almost makes your lungs collapse, and cornering that makes you want to leave it so late, it's terrifying. Yessss. Where has this car been all my life

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                  I bought a M Reg Nissan Skyline GT-S 4 months ago and I have to say it has been a real pleasure to own. I spotted it in the autotrader web-site, went down and met the car importer who had just rolled it off the boat from Japan, got inside and fell in love instantly. From the moment the key is in the ignition you have this lovely throaty power roar, all 230 brake horses stampeding in unison. The car is a non-turbo 2.5 litre model, rear wheel drive, with climate control, active exhaust, I thought it prudent to have it checked out by an independant engineer before parting with the cash - he marked it 9/10 so i knew i was on safe ground. I've now had it for 10,000 miles and ahem had around 140mph out of it at the top end with an around 6.2/6.5 0 to 60 i must say i have been really impressed with the car, around town it's a pussycat - which is nice (you don't want to knock down any old ladies now do you) but get it out on the open and it really flies! Mpg is pretty poor - i guess in the early 20's but when you're having fun like this who cares! I've saved the best til last, I have a real cracker of a car with 35,000 miles, four seats so my wife and little one is happy and I paid only £8,000 - the asking price!!!

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                    Test-drove one last weekend after six-month wait. Honestly the most truly terrifying automotive experience I've ever had - however, you do want to keep coming back for more. Ball-crushingly fast, and constantly on the edge of control, strangely enough the closes driving experience I can liken it to is the very first time you ever drive a Mini. It's the same feeling. Obviously, not exactly a family car, not economical in the slightest (22mpg, or thereabouts), hideous to park and the wheels are the ugliest ever seen. What a great car. I want one!

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