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      22.06.2010 23:28
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      I have some very fond memories of my Peugeot's... and if I could run 2 cars I would own one again..

      I owned 2 Peugeot 205 1.9 GTI's. The first was a J reg so one of the last of its kind and the second one was a F reg... To this day I think the 205 is an iconic car... the handling of the GTI was immense and even in this day and age, I still think that there aren't many hot hatches that can match it! I bought the J reg in around 1996 and kept it for 2 years before being made redundant so the car had to go... I've never been that lucky with any of the cars that I've owned and I did have trouble with the J reg as it kept breaking down on me... when they finally found the problem it appeared that somebody had put a vauxhall part on it... don't ask me what as I can't remember but it was something to do with the electronics as it just used to lose power..but I think that was just somebody not knowing what they were doing...! Even though I had been made redundant I was truly in love with this car by now so went out and bought a cheaper and older one.... Whereas with my first car it was quite untarnished, this one had been lowered with ridiculously large brake discs... maybe this should have started my warning bells, but I think by this time I had gone deaf to everything surrounding me, including my fathers voice and handed over my £2000 in a bit of a daze and drove off... Both cars I found really comfortable to drive, both being half leather, both I found really quick... It's 0-60 is 7.6 seconds so not to be sniffed at bearing in mind how old this car was (1989) Eventually the F reg gave up on me and the head gasket went which cost me £800 to get it fixed and then I quickly sold it..I have since found out that apparently its quite common for this to happen to them... What I would say is that if you want a fun, fast and cheap car then the Peugeot 205 is definitely the one... what I would warn you about is that historically they have always been the favourite for modifications so make sure that you check the vehicle history before you buy.. If you buy one though... enjoy the ride!

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      15.02.2010 18:00

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      Maybe this is the best car I have owned, but u can decide

      After reading the reveiws on the peugeot 205 i agree with what I had in mind of writing anyway, The peugeot 205 is the best car I have ever owned, and mine is a J REG. Its cheap to run, fun to drive, and best of all is very cheap for parts. The only downside to this car that I can see is that it isnt very much to look at, but who worrys, its an antique. At this moment in time it costs £35 to fill up the tank and this lasts me all week, running 40 miles a day. The manual choke took some getting use to, but once you have the hang of it, its simple. They are very easy to work on, and require minor stripping downs for new part replacments. They can be easily modified, whether you are a boy racer or just wanting to keep it tidy. It doesnt have many features, but for a simple car, its ideal.

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      03.01.2010 21:54
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      get a good one , drive and be happy

      Hi , after reading the reveiws on the peugeot 205 all i can do is confirm what is already said , in my opinion it is THE finest small hatch ever made , i am 45 years old and have had many of the different models , i am a qualified mechanic and have taught mechanics in college. Ok right now i have 2 , one CTI 1.6 and a GRD. However i have had 1.9 GTI's other 1.6GTI's and various diesels. My girlfriend also has a 205 CTI (yes she listened to me , and is very happy with it!). The most powerful to date was a Turbo Technics conversion on a 1.9 GTI sorrento green with a fith injector and upgraded ECU , sporting an uprated cam and gas flowed cylinder head, lowered compression pistons and bailey dump valve and a huge intercooler ( cossie style grill etc to cover !) This made 240 bhp , and an enteraining drive! Probably the best in my opinion is the turbo deisel, giving you surprising performance especially from 40 miles per hour up and fantastic economy, and good pulling power in top gear for a relaxed drive. Anyway in summary my advice would be get one , but first do some home work , there are issues that prospective buyers should be aware of , not in order of cost or difficulty , check the brake pipes , to do properly and route under the fuel tank is a pain , check rear beam for play , engines smoke , on petrols the exhaust manifold on the 1.6 and 1.9 (not a problem on the turbo ) heater controls , on some years check for rust , and cracking of the bodyshell, the metal pipe running along the drivers inner wing (water pipe) these can and usually do rust , can loose water and cause overheating ,( i usually replace this with a stainless peice of hoover tube lol ) Ok i hope i have not put you off , just hope to have helped those considering a purchase avoid trouble and despair, if your about to buy , good luck and i hope you get the enjoyment that owners report with out the hassle.

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        23.01.2009 13:13
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        As long as you take care of it, you;ll be fine.

        I have had four 205's in my life time so I am familiar with them, I am confused however why dooyoo have put a damn picture of a clio up?!?!? Anyhow, I have owned in this order: Peugeot 205 XS Peugeot 205 XS Peugeot 205 1.6 Gti Peugeot 205 1.6 Gti (converted to Mi16) The XS: The 205 xs is a barrel of laughs if you can still get hold of one, i had my two in about 2002/4 but they;re getting very rare now. They are fun too drive, very rev happy for an 8v carb motor. they are a 1.4 engined car that will reach 60 in about 9 secs ish, same engine as found in the AX GT. So it was not too far off the 1.6 GTi 0-60 time. But not everything is about 0-60 the sound of the engine in the XS sounds lovely and I had a Pipercross filter put on mine which made it sound like the engine was more like a 1.9, certain mods can be done but becasue they don't have the arches they won't look like a GTi, and please don't try, they are a unique car of their own which I actually enjoyed more than my 1.6 GTI when i had it (honest) The 1.6 Rev happy but didn't feel as frantic as the XS, may just be me that had a lively XS but i have heard other good reviews of that car. Thats not to knock the 1.6 down however because it was a fantastic motor and still is in its own right. It still has cult status and a few forums dedicated to the car as well. Felt mor esure footed and planted round corners than the XS and I believe this was due to the wider track of the front of the car, add 1.9 alloys for even wider track and to fill the arches. Still fairly nippy today but don't buy it just to race everyone, although saying that when you get in one, they're quite difficult NOT to drive fast. Engine started dying at about 155,000 miles but this may be my fault for neglect, i was in my teens when i owned this car and not very responsible in looking after it to be fair. But it did last the battl;e well and got some abuse with it. had a few problems, constant HT lead replacement more often than should've been, unsteady idle (common) and general misfiring, hesitation. Mi16: I bought my pug already Mi16 converted and still have it today, only problem is its off the road getting throttle bodies put on it so can't drive it. These cars are getting more rare nowadays (good ones anyway) and the review for this car is the same as above except for the engine difference, which is what peugeot should've done from the start IMO. It makes the car feel alive with the 160bhp that comes from the Mi giving it a new lease of life after about 4k revs. engine is alloy so doesn't affect weight too much at the front of the car. Has the guts to challenge most hot hatches nowadays and will compete easily wiuth the likes of an Audi S3 in this form because of Power/Weight ratio and the ability of the chassis to handle the engine well. If you're interested in a sporty hatch but are young, get an XS but if your a bit older then get the Mi, they're a few on ebay and pistonheads sometimes

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        19.07.2008 15:29
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        buy one, not mine though, its mine

        I bought my peugeot 205 xs from a nice man in birmingham, its completely original which is best for an xs because it looks great as it is and its in near showroom condition. Mines black and it looks the business. For a 1.4 (1360cc) its really quick, im 18 and to have the quickest car in college by a long way is a good feeling, insurance is reasonable too, mines £1100 fully comp. iv had 115mph out of it and 0-60 in around 9.3. not far behind a 1.6 gti. i strongly recommend the xs for anyone who cant quite afford the gti's, its still quick, sounds great at nearly 7000rpm and handles like a dream, just make sure u have good tyres on it because i nearly ended up in a tree while goin 15mph. This was great fun though. I dont know what the other guy was sayin about poor brakes, mine are pretty good, just like any other hatchback. In terms of fuel they are quite thirsty but this hasnt put me off. Oh and in terms of reliability this car hasnt missed a beat. im completely hooked on my 205.

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          02.10.2007 04:09

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          Topgear put it on a second place after McLaren F1 in a top 100 list

          205 1.9 GTI, 1989. Bought the car : 1998 , still own. It is not fastest car, but amazingly balanced. I drove a lot of others "sportish" like WRX, M3, MINI ,EVO ... but just compare : light, fantastic suspension, crisp engine response, steering like you keep your wheels by hands, roomy, still very practical, excellent MPG ( at least in my case). Yes it is slower them above. But it is more eager to run and always puts a smile on your face. It is so nice that you can forgive building quality and required permanent flow of spares parts.

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          09.07.2007 22:21
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          A nice car for new drivers, but can be expensive to insure.

          The Peugeot 205 really is a wonderful little car. When people say “hatchback”, most will think of the Clio or the Corsa, but for me it will always be the 205. From what I can tell the safety is fine, but I have yet to crash mine so I can’t really comment. I do have a trailer hook stuck on the back of mine (in the words of my Grandad, who handed this car on to me: “If someone crashes into the back of you, it’ll do far more damage to them"), and it handles the extra weight of a small trailer very well. Mine is a 1992, 1.8 litre diesel engine, which is superb for quick acceleration but abysmal to insure. When I passed my test my Dad could not get a quote for me for less than £900, and that was with me as a named driver. I’ve had to wait until turning 20 before I could get insurance at £500, and now with one years no claims I’ve managed to argue it down to £318. But seriously, go for the smaller engine as otherwise you’ll be forking out a lot of money. The seats are incredibly comfortable, and if you have the 5 door one then it’s decently sized inside too. I managed to fit four 20 year old blokes (three of whom were at or over 6 foot tall) in it with very little trouble. The seats are quite cushiony so you don’t get a numb bum until a few hours into your drive, and the leg room is quite decent. There are a few downsides, other than the insurance. Mine is now on 125k miles and the engine does make a bit of a racket, especially first thing in the morning. I can get a full tank of petrol for about £25, which will last me several trips up and down the M25, but you do get dirty looks from environmentalists who think that anything built before 2000 creates more pollution than a lorry (I actually got yelled at by a “friend” who told me I was destroying the environment with my 205). Occasionally it refuses to go into third gear, or reverse, and no one can work out why. But if you’re looking for a car to buy for your son or daughter when they pass their test, this is a good start. Get them one with a small engine to save on the insurance, and then send them out in it. I learnt to drive in a Vauxhall Corsa and the transition from that to the 205 was easy. Occasionally you hear about one like mine with the odd unsolvable problem, but otherwise they’re quite reliable. Plus it’s an old car, so you and your son/daughter won’t get too upset if it gets scratched or dented.

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            07.11.2006 00:28
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            A great old car, still loads of them about, parts are plentiful

            I have an 1988 5dr 1.4L 205 SR and love it! It's the first car anyone in my immediate family has owned as my father and brother don't drive. It's economical to run at about 50-60mpg it's very nippy round town and does well on the motorway. It also handles the steep & twisty roads in rural areas with no problems. The exterior is pretty smart given it's age and I'm quite loving razzing around in it. Looks a lot better than the equivalent Polo or Micra hatchback small car. I love the very roomy interior, enough space for my son, the (large) dog and plenty of luggage. Even an 18" frame adults bike will fit in no problem with the seats down. Insurance is cheap and because it's a 1.4L engine it's got good acceleration but I only have to pay the cheaper road tax fee. I bought it in March 06 (with 62k on the clock and only the tiniest bit of rust on the wheel arches) when still a learner driver. I've put 5k miles on it since and the only problem (*see below) it's had was needing an ignition coil which I fitted myself (easy job) and only £25 for the part itself. It's easy to pick up secondhand parts, most breakers yards will have what you want. *Shortly after I bought it some of the local kids thought it'd be a good idea to put a hole in the petrol tank to steal the fuel, aren't they lovely!! A tank from the breakers yard was £35 but in the end I've patched it for less than a fiver and it's held up for the full 4 thousand miles I've put on it since passing my test in July. I'm sure the patch will need replacing soon or the other tank fitting. The good thing about it is that the 205 has a plastic fuel tank which once damaged won't rust and become worse. There is a slight oil leak but (as most mechanics I've spoken have said) is pretty much par for the course with older cars. Despite this, it doesn't drink oil and will happily run for 100's of miles before needing topping up. I think I've only put a couple litres in so far. I've replaced the coolant which is another easy job. The 205 vs a new car is easier to look after yourself, all you need to invest in is a Haynes manual. As for extras, the car has a sunroof, rear wiper and washer (my friend's J reg Micra has neither) and I fitted a new stereo and speakers. I hope it'll last me for a good long while yet and take me all over the country. If it doesn't then I'd definately be on the look out for the same again!!

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              01.06.2006 01:06
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              im owner of a couple of Pugs 1.9 TDi van and a 1.6 GTI, the only thing that i can say, its that they're brilliant in everything and if u have a standard model u can easily modify it with spares from a higher version...my gti has 136k and runs like hell, the TDi was just TD but i managed to put intercooler and the turbo from citroen Xantia the difference its huge, what else can i say....they're brilliant...

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                28.07.2005 13:26
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                Fast, Stylish, Very Quick, expensive to run.

                A few years back I owned a Peugeot 205 GTi 1.9. It was red with a black trim and full body kit. The car inside was very roomy for a small car and could easily take 3 full size adults in the back without any problems. to say the car was quick is an understatment, being quite light and with an injection engine the 205 GTi will beat most things at the lights without a problem and would stick to the road like Sh*t to a blanket, even in very wet weather. the car would even push you back in your seat when you were cruising at 70 mph and you wanted to overtake on the motorway, just put your foot down and BANG the pick up was amazing. The handling was excellent although you did occasionally get a bit of oversteer but you do get used to it and know when it is going to happen so you could correct yourself. I bought the car with 56,000 on the clock for £2400.00 in 1996 and traded it in for £1400.00 in 1999. it had to have a new gear box at 75,000 (£275.00). new cluch at 81,000 (£235.00) and a new sunroof (£215.00) after someone decided to drop a paving slab through the full glass sliding sunroof in a pub car park. The only bad thing about a Peugeot 205 Gti is the running costs because if you do have a car with power to burn you are also going to have a car that drinks petrol like it is going out of fashion and I would only get about 25 MPG. oil usage is also quite high. Would I recommend the peugeot 205 GTi, YES, but not if you are under 21 years of age as the insurance is quite high and you will get a lot of looks by the old bill as the car has a bit of a history of being a boy racers car. I have now traded in my Peugeot 205 GTi for a nice family hatchback as the kids are getting bigger and the car is getting smaller but I do miss my 205 GTi and you never know one day, when the kids have left home and if I can still find one, I might again be gracing the roads in a 205 GTi. Thank you for reading and rating my review

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                  03.09.2003 04:24
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                  • "So old it was being to mould
                  • although no rust funny enough...."

                  I originally wrote this review awhile back in a total state of depression. My review, therfore was a bit, how should I say, negative. HOwever, my car owning life is on an up at the moment (touch wood) and Im starting to appreciate what I have and had in my life. And so, a more joyful look at my very first car... Ive reviewed my second car so I thought it would only fair that I should review my first. Yes, I Tonie, owned a Peugeot 205 GL, I thank you.... When I first passed my test I was eager to get a car (who isn't?) so after a few days of moping about on Autotrader and Loot I decided that I wanted a Peugeot. Imparticular I wanted a 206, but unfortunatly my budget didn't go as far as 7 grand, so my next option was a 205. So, after more time on the net I found a F reg 205 GL for 350 pounds. Now I realise that the car wasn't worth that but I was young and naive, so sue me. So I became the extremely proud owner of a battered, moulding 205. After a good, good clean and wax it actually looked pretty good, apart for the nearside wing and two passenger door (oh yes! It was a five door!) being a slightly darker blue than the rest of the car, it scrubbed up well. Other faults included when I first got it was a stiff clutch which had a very bad squiek about it, it guzzled petrol like there was no tommorrow, it had two keys for the doors and petrol cap, it had general wear and tear inside and a throaty rev that would put any boyracer to shame and was often confused with a souped up tank (even though it was only a 1.1). But I saw through these faults. It was MY car. And by GOD the seats were SOOOOOOO comfortable. So, I loved and cherished that car. It was incredability easy to drive as it was box like in shape so it was easy to park and judge distances with. Visability was excellent as the windows went all the way to the edge of the doors and side bars. Handling was a bit heavy at low speeds but great at higher even though m y one didn't have any power steering. Now safety isn't the best feature of this car. Accident wise its like a steel box. The car may come out of an accident with minor damage but you're like to have made repeated contact with the interior of the car even with your seatbeat on. There's little in way of rollcages or airbags (especially in the older models like mine). Although I never had a theft attempt on my car I would still have to say that it probably wouldn't take long to break into one. Unless you get a newer model there are no alarms or immobilisers. It only has a steering wheel lock thats released with the ignition key (every car has this feature anyway, it just depends if its electronic or not). Older models really need a visable deterant like a steering wheel lock or a lovely little pitbull in the front seat with rabies. Models like the GL and Junior are less likely to get nicked as they dont appeal to the youth of today, its the likes of the GTi that are asking for it unless you have the aforementioned pitbull. Well, a alarm will do. Mechanical wise these are great, Ok, they do develop problems but because theres very little electronics simple things can be fixed by a beginner with the help of a Hayes manual. However, saying this, alot do go wrong with these models. Clutch, alternators, batteries, you name it, it WILL go wrong unless you modify your 205, which actually renews almost the whole of the engine. When looking for a 205, unless you want a GTi look for one that has low mileage for its year, typically for a F reg (1988) 60,000 is about average. Its a cliche but the "one lady driver" is a bonus. Also look for body rust, mine was actually rust free suprisingly for its age but rust on any car is a major problem unless you catch it early. Check out the clutch. If it stiff then you may have a major problem on your hands. Parts are pretty expensive for a car of this age and popularity so if you s ee an abandoned 205 on the road, nick all the parts for it that you can (a spare back window washer motor is a must), but first check that its actually abandoned and not just a nasty looking, badly parked, student's second home (a current tax disk is always a good sign). Other than that this is the business. It's a students car who hasn't got much money but still wants a good looking car. My car, incidently, was part exchange for a Ka for 500 pound (can you believe it I actually made profit on it!?!). During the last month of ownership the battery just wouldn't charge, the alternator and battery were renew to no avail, it spent nights on end plugged into the main on a battery charge which gave it enough juice to get started once, and once only. It hated the cold weather and would die on me unless I revved the hell out of it. So if you want a good looking car thats cheap to buy (not so cheap to run though) than this is the car for you. Enjoy!!

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                    01.07.2003 01:15
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                    Well I've had my trusty Pug 205 5 door 1.1 GL for 5 years now so I thought I'd put down some thoughts on how it has fared over the years... Firstly I have found it very robust - the engine and acceleration are still lively even though the car is only a 1124cc fuel injection and over 8 years old (K reg) with 85K on the clock. I have driven a lot of hire cars and drive 300-400 miles a week and it is still faster off the mark and easier to build up speed than most other small cars such as the Fiesta, Citroen ZX and the Ka. Even driving uphill - for example up a slip-road to join a motorway - it can quickly build up average speed without trouble. Overtaking is not a problem either. However because of its age it cannot compete with newer small family cars (Golf, Focus, Megane, Escort 16v, 206 etc) when pulling way from traffic lights and roundabouts but it can certainly match and keep at their speeds when driving in the outside lane on the motorway although the noise quickly increases to a radio-deafening roar in the cabin at over 80mph. There have been no problems with it mechanically - I have not had a single breakdown or trouble in over 5 years. The only problem was an old battery that failed one particularly cold winter, however replacing this with a heavy duty battery has solved this and it is still working fine 4 years later. The demister is pretty hopeless so carry a chamois leather or cloth in winter or you'll be sitting waiting for up to 10 minutes to clear the windscreen in the morning if you don't have a garage. The interior is fine for the car although nothing inspiring - there is a bit of a cheap plasticky setup - it reminds me of one of Mr Clarkson's comments on French cars that the 'unimportant' bits such as the trim, interior fittings etc tend to fall off quickly while the main parts like the engine, chassis and transmission are solid. The dash and display are fine (interior and seating are a light grey se tup) - since it is not too gimmickly it has not dated badly. The dash is well laid out - left stalk controls the lights and right the windscreen wipers. I find that the clutch pedal has a high biting point on it so switching back after driving another car results in some high revving for the first start and gear changes until you re-adjust. I have also found the paint is a bit thin in places so do not overdo the T-Cut when cleaning up scratches on it! The driving position is fine and the advantage to the large windows and thin sills is that you can easily see the rear view or look over your shoulder to get a good positional view of the adjacent lane when manoeuvring or joining from a slip road. The bonnet is also easily visible from the driving position - something you do not always get on newer cars. In general this makes the car easy to park and to quickly get to know its width and length. Trim and fittings are basic for the GL - manual windows, no central locking or power steering, radio cassette, no intermittent or automatic windscreen wiper functions. Some may come with immobiliser and alarm fitted as this was an option when the car was new. If this is the case make sure that the system is not obselete and spares are still available. The standard Peugeot 205 system on mine is now out of date and replacement remote controls are no longer available from Peugeot dealers. The steering can a bit heavy, especially with parking or 3 point turns, meaning that wrestling the steering wheel is needed. The turning circle is also wide - you will need a road 3 lanes wide (or 2 lanes with parking spaces) to turn round without using reverse. It always feels that there is slight understeer to the car and taking a turn quickly it seems it is trying to drive sideways over the front tyres. However in general handling is nimble and sharp and you can certainly throw the car about and scare your passengers if you want to! Another problem (as with many older cars) is the security of the car - which I'm not going to elaborate on here - so use general advice and do not leave valuables on display or in the car for long periods. You may be able to fit immobilisers and steering locks to prevent the car being driven away, but don?t present the opportunity to easily take a mobile phone or similar valuable item by leaving it visible in the car. The fuel economy is good ? it usually costs £30-35 to fill up the 50 litre tank, which will then last about 300 miles with town and suburbs driving and 350+ if using motorways. I?ve got 400 miles out of a tankful a few times. Serving generally costs about £180 a year. I find that front tyres tend to go fairly quickly as do front brake disk pads. Rear shock absorbers have also been reported as a problem although I have not replaced them for 5 years and passed the MOT fine every time even though one garage I am no longer using recommended their replacement for the first MOT I had when I bought the car. It has gone through a few exhaust boxes and 2 timing belts but the clutch is still going fine at 80,000+ miles. Apart from this, no problems. Spares are plentiful and cheap, both pattern parts and Peugeot dealer parts. Putting a good set of front tyres on the car makes a difference to its handling but you can always get cheap tyres for £30 each. Generally I found cowboys garages tended to recommend new brake master cylinders, rear shocks, front brake disks, exhaust boxes, timing belts and clutch fluid nearly every MOT time but finding a good independent mechanic reduced this to front brake pads and tyres. There's a lot of space in the boot and the back seats easily fold down to provide plenty of extra room if needed. You can just about fit a large 2m IKEA flat-pack or a bicycle in the car with the rear seats down or 1 set of golf clubs with the back seats in place. I have used the car several times for luggin g about furniture, scuba divi ng equipment and suitcases for airport runs. The extra weight does not affect the car's sharpness and it can just as easily pull away with a full boot-load although it does affect the braking, which is not anti-lock. The car is affected if you have passengers in it - being a 1.1 engine this makes an appreciable difference on steep hills and pulling away from lights etc. So overall a good car and cheap to run - they are insurance group 5 or 6 although the GTIs are higher. I have found it very reliable and still a quick car that is fun to drive despite its age and small engine. Most of the older ones still have radio cassette players but you can always upgrade this cheaply. At under £1000 second hand I would consider one a bargain and it is still an ideal first car on the cheap. update: I've updated this as the car has been doing about 80 miles a day for the last few months which has driven the mileage up by 6,000. It handles the long journeys fine and is good for motorway driving and is comfortable cruising above 80mph although it gets noisy above about 70. The main drawback is the mid-range acceleration which is slow and you notice this when driving on ringroads full of roundabouts and traffic lights - I nearly got overtaken by a Micra the other day. However it is still doing at least 360 miles on about 40 litres of petrol and hasn't caused any problems yet except washer jets continually clogging and the trip counter sticking but there have been no major faults.

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                      09.06.2003 06:13

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                      These are great little cars, I bought my 1.1 gl for £650 (1992 model) last year and I'm very happy with it. I've only had a few minor problems - radiator cooling switch failed, aerial on the roof leaked water (fixed with some epoxy), the courtesy light switches on the doors failed but I'm told that is pretty common, and a trip to the scrappy soon fixed that. Dont bother buying halfords touch up paint if you have a white pug - they dont seem to match very well. Despite the small engine size the car goes well and is very nippy. The lack of power steering might be a small problem when parking but the feedback you get around some twisty bits of road more than makes up for that. Feels like a go kart! hehe. The economy is good, with a well tuned engine and careful motorway driving about 55mpg is possible. Overall, I would probably buy one again - maybe a turbodiesel or gti. They are good cars for their age and I'd especially recommend them as a first car.

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                      07.04.2003 04:34
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                      My trusty (well rather knackered) steed is a 205 1.6GTi. I paid 600 pounds for the car and so far its run fairly well, thats not to say its not had its problems, so far i've had a minor electrical fault, and i've had a cracked exhaust manifold. The car also smokes slightly. 205's are getting on a bit these days, mines an E reg, which has done 94k miles, due to it taking up a most unhealthy habit i'm going to rebuild the cylinder head fairly soon. The cracked exhaust manifold would have cost approximately 150 pounds to do at a garage, since I do all the mechanics myself its cost me about 30 pounds (using a second hand manifold). Perhaps I should focus on why I bought the car, rather then whats wrong with it? A 205 is one of the first hot-hatches, preceeded (but not superceeded) by the Golf GTi its a superb little car, it handles like a go kart and the powerful little engines hurtle it towards the horizon at a pace that would still put alot of faster cars to shame. It really does love a few B-Road blasts. With all the practicality of a hatchback. Its not a big car, but the loading area with the seats flat accomodates quite surprising ammounts of luggage. Considering what you get for your money the 205 proves to be a good value proposition, if you do the maintenance yourself it can prove to be a cheap ownership experience, there are a huge number of pattern parts available and fuel consumption is in the mid 30mpg's. Things to look out for if buying a 205GTi, are smoky exhausts this can indicate either a worn engine or valve stem oil seals on their way out, both are expensive jobs. Other things are a worn rear beam causing the wheels to look crooked / \ or \ / this again is an expensive job. Though this won't bother alot of the buyers of 205's they aren't the strongest of cars, the words tin foil come to mind, they are quick because they are light, they are light because they crumple to n othing in big accidents. And finally the 205 is a good car for tuning and racing, the conversion to a 16v engine is common and various tuning options are inexpensive. Its a fast fun car to learn some basic mechanics on, easy and cheap to work on. Just be sure to get a good one as parts can be expensive.

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                        04.06.2002 02:05
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                        I've had my K reg, 1-Litre, 205 'style' for 2 months and i'm quite chuffed with it. I've driven over 1000 miles but the car has done over 100,000 miles and still drives well. Indeed just today (the poor little mite) its driven up and down dale in Cheshire & Derbyshire. My brother bought the car in Sept 2000 for £2500. It has broken down a few times, because of disconnected wires in the starter motor (?). Touch wood, so far, its been a trustworthy little car for me, and gets me from A to B. The car is a bugger to get going with its manual choke and can be sluggish to begin. Once warmed up it perks up and is reasonably nippy for a 4 geared car. In my opinion the advantages are really confortable seats, five doors, a good heating system, roomy interior and a simple dash layout. Also the car is very resistant to rust, unlike other similar-aged small cars. The major downfall of the car is the manual choke feature, and when shutting the door the car gives a less-than-satisfying clunk (it doesnt feel particularly secure). Although not the most attractive car, it offers good value for money, holds its value well and is reliable. I would certainly recommend it for a first time buyers looking for a safe, trustworthy car. Remember looks and speed aren't everything!

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