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      08.10.2010 16:53

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      Comfortable and affordable

      A really comfortable and reliable car to be in! We basically downgraded to this car because it is cheap to run and more reliable than most other cars. Not only are the mechanics of the car quite reliable but they are built to last and not require work to be done to them. They are used mostly as company cars to my knowledge, which makes finding one with low mileage a bit of a task. If you CAN find one for around 50/60 000 miles then you will most likely get about another 50 / 60 000 without anything needed to be done to it.

      Aside from all this, the interior is fab. A bit strange having a cover for the radio part but its quite nice. It has a cup holder next to the radio which is really useful for both passenger or driver. There are lots of pockets too, door pockets are great as they can fit drinks in too so providing you have a method of keeping it stood up then you have lots of holders.

      All standard child seats fit in here, including the bigger ones for up to 5yr olds. LOADS of leg room for both front and back passengers which is always great.

      All in all it isn't the flashiest car but is so comfortable and reliable they are a great family car.

      Oh and insurance for 24 yr old is cheaper than it is for most other cars.

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      15.10.2009 12:24
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      A family freindly alternative to a people carrier.

      I brought a Renault Laguna 1.9TD Sport Tourer In April of this year. I paid £2300 for an 03reg. You get a high quality car for a relativly small amount of money.
      The Sport Tourer comes with part leather interior, three 3 point seatbelts which is a must for anybody with children, a cd player, air con, Abs, 6 speed gears, heated front and rear windscreens and lots more.
      I have three young children and didn't want to purchase a people carrier instead I opted for this estate and so far have been extremely pleased with my purchase.It has a fantastically large boot which fits my double buggy in with ease and still has enough room for shopping.
      As far as safety ratings go this is by far one of the best it has several airbags and you are able to turn the passenger airbag off at a switch if you need to place a rear facing child seat in the front.
      On the bad side it comes with key cards which break easily if mishandled and can be quite pricy to replace.
      All in all this is a fantastic family freindly estate car and I would highly reccomend it.

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        06.05.2009 17:30
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        Make sure you have money put aside for repairs if you are thinking of buying one of these

        I bought my Renault Laguna Dynamique three months ago for £2,000. It is a 1.9dci on a 52 reg. I did get a good deal on it when I bought it as it is the best one in the range.

        The things that it benefits from are:
        Front And Rear Electric Windows
        Front And Rear Fog Lights
        Electric Mirrors
        Rear Spoiler
        6 Speed Gearbox
        120 BHP
        17 inch Alloy Wheels
        Air Conditioning
        Part Leather Interior
        Fingertip Remote Control For Cd Player
        Remote Central locking With keyless Card

        I think that the design of the car is lovely, it has been well made and various different air bags for added safety.

        I would say that I get approx 55mpg (which compared to my last car, Vauxhall Vectra 2.5 V6 it is great).

        The front seats are very comfortable as they are sports seats but I have also sat in the back a few times and they are also comfortable.

        It is a very quiet drive. It reaches 0-60 in approx 10 seconds.

        Unfortunately I have got a problem with my electrics at the moment and it looks like it is going to be very expensive for me. So far my bill is up to £700 and it has only been in three days.

        Since it has been in for repair I have heard alot of bad reports about the electrics on these cars (shame noone told me before I bought it).

        There are known problems with the keyless cards and I have been informed that a new card will cost £150, however I am aware that there are websites where you can send them away for repair for much less. I dont really think it was their best idea when they invented these. They have a hole in them which I though was to attach it to my keyring which I did. I then tried to put it into the hole and realised that it was the end with the keyring on that went in. Therefore I can not attach it to anything and I have a habit of loosing it.

        I do love my car and hopefully will get it back soon but maybe I should be looking into part exchanging it for something more reliable

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        08.05.2008 11:04

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        having a few problems with my laguna 1.9dci, it is juddering alot and the exhaust is chucking out alot of black smoke everytime it judders. i have had the mass airflow sensor changed ny request of the garage, but this has not solved the problem. just wondered if anyone has had any problem like this and can help in anyway.

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        21.03.2004 01:36
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        As our Laguna is nearly 1 year old I feel able to review it! The review will be from a female perspective and does not include too much of the technical stuff, as this can be found on the Internet. We bought our Laguna sport tourer last august from new and paid £18.000 for it, I shopped around and our local Renault garage price matched! 18 months ago we were involved in a very serious head on collision, which left my husband with terrible injuries. Our car at the time had been a ford fiesta. So with that sort of history you will understand my concerns re safety wanted a car, which would offer the maximum of protection in an accident, in addition to being reliable. The sport tourer has been awarded 5 stars for safety. It has both driver and front passenger airbags, which have a 2 stage inflation system, if the impact is severe the bag will fully inflate to give maximum protetion,in a less severe it will only partially inflate. As air bags themselves can cause injuries this is a great idea. In addition to the airbags the driver?s seat belt has a load-limiting device, which gives better knee and thigh protection. There is a well-padded foot well for foot protection. There are also rear side and curtain airbags and isofix fittings for a child seat (more about these later) I think the car is aesthetically very pleasing, as are all things French! There are 3 full seat belts in the back. Now for some technical info. Our model is a 1.8 automatic chosen because we now need an automatic. It does about 35 mpg on long runs, less around town. The car as an amazing range of toys, including an on board computer. It has cruise control, air conditioning, cd player with volume control on the steering wheel meaning you don't have to take your eyes off the road to fiddle with the cd player! Although our model is automatic it has a selector so you can select a manual gear, useful when going up steep hills as you can keep the car in the gear you select
        . Although I have never bothered to use the manual gear. The car has a sliding sunroof, which is not really necessary as it has air conditioning. The windows are automatic and the rear ones can be locked by a button on the driver?s door, useful to stop the children playing with them. I have no idea how much this car will cost for a service as it has not achieved enough miles yet! The brakes are very responsive, as you would hope! The car has power steering, which makes it very easy to park, another important consideration for me! There is an amazing amount of storage space in the interior, in the doors, a place to put sunglasses above the driver?s window and storage under the front seats. Overall the car is very easy to drive, it has a good deal of power and feels substantial. It is also very comfortable to travel in. The seats are well padded and the front 2 can be adjusted, both up and forwards to enable you to sit in the correct position. Now for the cons. 1.The on board computer is MAD! If you are lonely and need a friend you may love the female voice which constantly talks to you, if not you may plot her demise. Example, I was driving last week listening to my cd when it was interrupted by the voice telling me the tyre pressure was dangerously low and I should stop immediately and get it checked. I stopped at the next garage only to find the pressure was fine!!!I could give other examples but you get the picture! 2.Back to the isofix fittings. For those of you who don't know this means that a child car seat with isofix fittings can be securely attached to the car insuring the seat is always correctly fitted. We chose a seat, but when we tried to fit it the isofix fittings were not in evidence. A trip to our Renault dealer revealed that Renault had placed the fittings behind the upolstory! In order to expose them the seat covers would have to be unstitched! They did promise us that the covers could be
        re-stitched at a later date. We bought a different seat! 3.The rear of the car has limited headroom. This is fine for our 2 children, but may be a problem for a tall adult. 4.The windows in the front have a habit of going down on their own. So far Renault have been unable to find the fault. So far we are very happy with this model, it is a pleasure to drive, very comfortable, and so far reliable. I forgot to mention the car was purchased with a £7000 deposit and 3 years interest free credit available from Renault. The price included 3 years A.A membership too.

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          05.09.2002 04:23
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          We bought a Leguna Privilege dci 1.9 with trade sales in slough for £3000 less than with Renault and think its a brilliant car. There are so many (getting technical here lol) bits and bobs that it will take me ages to know how to use everything lol but my husband treats it like his new toy. Even the small touches like a sun blind already on the windows cut to keep all the sun out. It tells you if your tyre pressure is ok, oil etc etc. The fuel comsumption is great to. We recently travelled by boat to Ireland and didnt suffer from any of the usual aches and pains the seats were so comfortable. All round a great car.

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            15.11.2001 05:30
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            Sensible as I may be, as you well know by now, occassionally even I submit to temptation, and so here I will recount my experience of a blind date. THE BLIND DATE I was asked by my local Renault garage to attend their premises last Saturday to meet a new Sexy French lady. I duly attended their premises at the appointed time, and there was a rather spotty young lady at the desk, and several salesmen walking round in rather horrible Renault anoraks, something's wrong here I thought. Anyway I sat down and had a cup of Renault coffee. After a while the salesman came to me and said the date was ready so... THE MEETING There she was, and boy, did she look horny. The shape of the new Renault Laguna is indeed very modern, and sharp, the lines aerodynamically rising from the sleek nose to the rear hatchback, this was a silver Dynamique 1.8 16 valve, a true machine of 2001. WAS I EXCITED, WOULD I CARRY ON Sure was, and I nearly forgot for a minute that I wasn't going to buy it anyway, but I got in very excitedly I can tell you. WOULD SHE LOOK AFTER ME I believe she would, the Dynamique has sports front seats with part leather upholstery, front and rear electric windows, lumbar adjustment of driver's seat, height adjustable passenger's seat, heat reflecting windscreen, front fog lamps, electric tilt and slide sunroof, body coloured door and boot handles, , air conditioning , leather steering wheel, trip computer, electric front and rear windows, deadlocking, electric door mirrors, rear spoiler, and 4 x 15W Single -CD RDS Radio with 6 speakers and fingertip remote control. THE FOREPLAY. I played with her equipment, and she put her seat belt shaped arm around me. This was comfy. She starts with a Renault card in the dash, and I pushed her button to get her going, a very new feature. She has double optic headlamps which would help if the date lasted. HOW DID SHE GO <
            br><br> Like a dream, I can tell you, she didn't make a sound from her engine, she glided over the roads without crashing or bumping over potholes, her sequential shift facility 5 speed gearbox was a dream to handle, in fact a very comfortable ride indeed. We drifted out onto the A2/M2 motorway, and I gave her one.. the accelerator had a very progressive and smooth movement, she had no problem moving around...the speed limit here started at 50, and then changed to 70 a little further on, she had handled very well on the side roads, and had a very progressive feel to the steering and brakes. Now on the motorway the acceleration was impressive as we moved at speeds around (and above) the speed limit, I could not fault her, she seemed so well built. All of her vital bits fell easily to hand, and she was also equipped with Pre-telephone equipment, including integrated speakers , wiring and aerial, a hands-free kit is available a an accessory. She looked after me well, she had ABS Brakes, Brake Assist, many airbags, tyre pressure monitor, anti-intruder device, seat belt pre-tensioners, and electronic steering column lock. I used her for some while, but.. WHAT ELSE COULD SHE HAVE Well, there are many extras available, such as climate control, ESP and traction control, multi CD Radio cassette, Navigation System, electrically folding door mirrors, metallic paint and Xenon headlamps etc.The prices are too numerous to mention, but later I'll tell you how to have your way. WOULD SHE HAVE MY MONEY LIKE ALL THE REST Well, no, I don't think so, this very large family car costs £15,580 on the road, which I thought was very reasonable, for a car with 123BHP, insurance group 9E. I hadn't broken her in, being so new to this country, but fuel economy seemed very fair. HAS SHE GOT ANY SISTERS Well yes, an extremely horny looking Sports Tourer, and there are five versions of trim and equipment, Authentique,
            Expression, Dynamique, Privilege and Initiale, three engines in various stages of tune from MY 1.8 16 wave to a 210BHP 24 Valve, and includes a 1.9 dCi diesel, , said to return 51 m.p.g. Prices are from £14,255 to £22,895 on the road. WHAT ELSE. She had an enormous rear, capable of taking all I could put in, I would imagine the boot could swallow a vast quantity of luggage with absolutely no problem, under cover as well, an important plus. HOW DID I LET HER DOWN The salesmen walked me into his office, and wanted to discuss my order. I said I was impressed, and would like to consider the automatic as driving every day in London is wearing on the knees. He said, "Sorry, those are not due in London until March 2002". I said, "I am so upset, goodbye!". AM I SEEING HER AGAIN Yes, March 2002 !! CAN YOU HAVE HER Try, www.renault.co.uk

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              16.06.2001 02:52

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              I chose the diesel Renault Laguna to hopefully cut my fuel costs drastically. I travel 28 miles a day to and from work and it was getting expensive! I have been very happy with the fuel economy, up wards of 45 miles to the gallon. The ride is very comfortable and quiet, the sound system is brilliant, loud and with a column remote control. The car is spacious, my girlfriend is quite tall and she has plenty of head room. There are electric front windows and sunroof, and a good electronic centre display for time,temp,radio. Even the dash is partly digital, telling you the oil level each time you switch on. The old noisy diesel is not this car, this one is as, if not more responsive than many of its petrol companions. If the car you want is a family saloon with lots of electrics and comfort, then this could well be the car for you. Mine is a 97 R, and it cost me 5000 pounds, with a full service history. Just a word about servicing, the costs at Renault main dealers can be 50 pounds and hour labour, so not the cheapest car to service. But with all that said I am saving nearly half the monthly payments in fuel cost alone. UPDATE: Well its now a few months on and how is the car performing ? Excellently is the only way to describe it. 45 miles to the gallon ,no, more much more on a decent long run. Having driven now for about 5000 miles I can appreciate the comfortable seats/seating position, adjustable seat belts and of course reliability !

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              09.05.2001 20:25
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              I have never owned a car for more than 2 years, that was until I bought my Renualt Laguna 1.8RT four years ago for £8500 (25,000mls on the clock). It has given me sterling service during the 40,000 miles I have driven it. RIDE - it is lovely and smooth but not spongy and very quiet with both engine and road noise at a minimum. COMFORT - it's cabin is spacious and the seats very comfy, I'm 6ft 4in tall and found it more than roomy. INTERIOR - very nice and stylish, I am a graphic designer and I like the unclutteredness of the console when the hifi cover is down (and with the stalk controls for the volume and radio station changing it very often IS down). The materials used are of a high quality and not too plasticy which is something I have found with most Japanese cars. One problem I have had is with the sunroof, it refuses to work below a certain temperature, so it is temperamental during Autumn and Spring and doesn't work at all during winter. EXTERIOR - when this model was launched I thought it was lovely, stylish modern and sleek. It has stood the test of time very well and is still a very attractive car, however Renualt has timed it right with the release of its new version. LOAD CARRYING - plenty of space for moving large items when the rear seats are down. RELIABILITY - after 40,000 miles it needed a new waterpipe (for some reason Renault thought it was a good idea to make it out of a material that rusts!!) It cost about £25 for a new one and it was quite easy to fit. Other than that no problems apart from exhaust and tires. SERVICING & PARTS - Renault Dealers prices were a touch pricey so I went to my local 'trusted garage' and it cost about £80 for a short service (every 6,000 mls) and about £150 for a long service. I found the exhaust system a little pricey, £150 for a back box. PERFORMANCE & ECONOMY - I found that it is a little sluggish in third gear (especial
              ly fully laden) and is a little under-powered when trying to accelerate on the motorway, however I am no boy-racer and this hasn't really bothered me. I don't think it uses vast amounts of fuel, but then again I don't think it is an extremely economical car either, I suppose it is average for a car of this size. BODYWORK - The metallic paintwork to me seems a little 'thin', it marks very easy. When I was looking for a Laguna to buy I had a real struggle to find one with unmarked bodywork, and now I know why. I usually sell-on my cars in virtually the same condition as I bought them, however after about six months I found marks where people had opened there doors and touched it (either people have started parking closer to me or the Laguna's paintwork marks easy) I wouldn't like to end this review on such a low note because on the whole I have been VERY happy with it, it's luxurious ride, quietness and reliability have proved reason alone for keeping it for twice as long as any other car.

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                09.05.2001 16:29
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                I took delivery of a new Laguna Executive 2.0L automatic in August 1998. The first thing that impressed me was the climate control, and that is one of the best features. In common with other users, I have found the automatic version to be underpowered and sluggish. Acceleration is a great disappointment. The car is comfortable, and my version came with leather seats, which are not slippery and sweaty. The intelligent auto transmission seems to work, but I can not tell if it gives the car any benefit. Fuel consumption is oveall 31mpg on mixed driving. Service every 12,000 miles. Renault service has been good, and the dealer/servicer has been helpful. There are lots of electronics in this car. There is a trip computer which can be quite handy. There are lots of variants on the audio system. Mine came with a boot mounted cd changer. A flap covers the radio when you dont want to show it, but any thief would know its there. However, if you steal the radio, you leave the display behind because it is somewhere else on the dash. Gross reliability has been excellent, with no breakdowns. I now have 60,000 miles on the clock, and some minor things are starting to go wrong with the electrics. Bulbs are starting to fail, and the funny light which indicates which gear you are in has gone. The boot is large enough, but my wife and kids have difficulty opening the hatch door, as it is far too heavy for them.The car came with locking wheel nuts, and that has been a minor problem, in that you must keep them handy in case of problems. If buying second hand, make sure that the key for the locking wheel nuts is still with the car - lots of people lose them. My major gripe with the car, apart from the lack of acceleration, is the road noise. This is unexpectedly high for such a car, and very sensitive to the type of road surface. It magically improved when I went to France, and it may be that the suspension is tuned for the make up of continental road, or am I just i
                magining that. Remember, Renault makes French cars for French Drivers.

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                ~ ~ I’ve a friend who works with one of the Renault main dealers here in Dublin, and who had been “raving” to me for the past week about the new model Laguna that is due to hit the Irish market at the beginning of next month. So I dropped into him last Thursday to see what all the “drooling” was about. APPEARANCE Exterior ~ ~ The first thing that strikes you about the new Laguna is how different it looks from the older model. It is far more striking, beefier looking and more sporting in profile, and also seems to sit far closer to the ground. ~ ~ Renault have “pushed” the wheels deeper into the corners, which adds 87mm to the wheelbase. This may not sound a lot, but the overall effect is to make the car “squat” closer to the road, and has the added advantage of also giving extra space inside the cabin. ~ ~ The model I was shown had a lovely set of alloy wheels, which are always guaranteed to add to a car’s appearance, but, off course, these are an optional extra. ~ ~ The general appearance reminded me very much of an Alfa Romeo, which can be no bad thing considering the impact the Italians have had in the “styling” of cars over the last few years. It was a lovely, deep metallic red colour, and I must say it really “looked the part”. Interior ~ ~ Once you get inside the Laguna’s bright, spacious and well-laid out cabin, we find a car that is very clearly more upmarket than its predecessors. ~ ~ The choice of materials is first class, and the fit and finish have a real feel of quality. The new bucket seats are tall and comfortable, and have much more style and substance than you would normally find in a car of this type and class. Indeed, they would remind you more of a top-of –the-range armchair than regular car-type seating. ~ ~ Renaults instrument layout ha
                s always been good and very user-friendly, and this car is no exception. Everything you need is readily accessible and to hand, making the car even more “driver friendly”. ~ ~ My test model was a hatchback, and the luggage capacity was excellent, with more than enough room for the average family plus all their goods and chattels. A “prestige” version is promised which is described as a “fastback”, and which Renault state will give as much carrying capacity as a large estate car. ENGINE SPECIFICATIONS AND DRIVABILITY ~ ~ The model I drove was the 1.9 turbo diesel version. It is also available in a 1.6 and 1.8 petrol and a 3.0 litre V6 version. ~ ~ Renault has now switched no less than 50% of their production capacity into producing diesel cars. They obviously believe that this is the way of the future, and if this car is anything to judge by, it would be hard to argue with that notion. For an “oil-burner” this was a real mover. It has a 0 to 60mph time of only 10.7 seconds, which is nearly a second faster than the 1.6 petrol, and will zip you up to a top speed of 125mph. (where, you may well ask) Maximum torque kicks in at only 2000rpm, which gives you plenty of low-end acceleration and pulling power. ~ ~ There is a 6-speed gearbox, which gives you a great saving in fuel economy, especially on long motorway hauls. The stated consumption figures are 40mpg around town, rising to a massive 60mpg for long journeys. This is obviously of great benefit if you do a high annual mileage, and will soon make up for the initial higher purchase price of the diesel car as against the petrol version. ~ ~ The ride was, as I have come to expect from this French manufacturer, soft and supple, and dealt admirably with even the huge craters that we call potholes on our lousy Irish “B” roads. (These are our Irish version of the “Bermuda Triangle”. Peo
                ple have been lost forever in them!) This didn’t take away from the handling however, which was unwavering and precise. The roadholding too, was superb, considering that I drove this car on very icy and slippy roads. It never put a foot wrong, and inspired confidence that it would do whatever was asked of it. EQUIPMENT LEVELS ~ ~ The standard specification for this car is very good. It will come kitted out with air-con, six airbags (front and side), ABS brakes with discs all round, seat belt pretensioners, and electric windows and mirrors. Options include Xexon headlamps (extra bright) cruise control with a clever built-in speed limiter, and satellite navigation ~ ~ A real “Tomorrow’s World” innovation is a little individual card supplied for each individual vehicle. Once inside the car this is inserted into a slot in the centre of the console, and you then simply push a start/stop button. Recognising the card, the system automatically unlocks the engine immobiliser, the electro-mechanical steering column lock, and fires up the engine. OVERALL VERDICT ~ ~ In an age when “conservatism” seems to hold sway in the car market, Renault have shown (not for the first time) that they are not afraid of challenging convention, and still have a few things they can teach their rivals in the art of car building. My mate was right; this is truly a car that is worth “raving” over. P.S. The price is in Irish Punts. Deduct 20% approx for the Sterling equivalent

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                  This car has changed in many ways which has made it more appealable to all kinds of people.The 1.6 litre engine and larger are among the best Lagunas to have as they are extremely quick off the mark, and comfortable. Space is important to me, because i am 6 feet 6 inches tall, and there is lots of it in this car.Leg room is very good and head room is much better than some family saloons.The new backseat headrests increase comfort immmensely in the back, not to mention the comfy armrest.Air conditioning and cd player finish off this car to perfection, especially in the sport models.The huge range of colours available provides endless fun choosing your favourite.My dad has had a Laguna for many years and he never considers anything else!

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                  07.08.2000 00:10

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                  This is the newest (just under 3 years when purchased) and least reliable car I have owned in 17 years. Apart from the poor ergonomic and aesthetic design, woefully poor heating/ventilation system (for British winters), one child-unfriendly rear seatbelt which is appallingly difficult to fasten, a rear-view mirror which vibrates at 65mph, the automatic engine immobiliser which doesn't allow you time to get two young children into their seats and strapped in, that awful radio flap (security?), I have had too many faults on this car for one so young: 1) the battery had to be replaced (62K miles) by the dealer before I could have the car 2) the radiator leaked (65K miles) and, at the same time, one of the bonnet catches refused to operate, so I couldn't even effect a temporary repair. 3) the starter motor failed (68K miles). The parts are expensive (fortunately, covered by warranty) and the garage groaned when they saw it was a Laguna. 4) the steering pump fluid leaked (71K miles). This is due to the bracket holding the pipes going to the radiator chafing the pipes and promoting rust in the pipes until they corrode through (on a car less than 4 years old). Expect an expensive bill for this one: the part is over £100 and it's a few hours labour. In short, this is my first, and last French car. See my web page: www.theallisons.freeserve.co.uk/renault.htm

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                  04.08.2000 19:06

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                  I have a Laguna 2.0S 16v RTi - with aircon. It's certainly pretty to look at and very nice to drive. That's the good side. On the bad side: The servicing costs are enormous - mostly due to the ineptitude of Renault main dealers to fix anything without 6 hours labour. Take them elsewhere and you can save a fortune. I was recently quoted £498 for a new clutch (at 70k), got it done at a local clutch specialist for £298 + VAT (~£350). While it was my company car, I just gave it to the local dealers everytime as I figured I wasn't paying for it, but they just kept getting things wrong - once nearly blowing me up when petrol was spewing out of the injectors after a service. Inside is a nice driving position with the controls easily to hand, but there is not much headroom for rear passengers, and front seat passengers can feel a bit bumped about with the RTi's firm suspension. It has a roomy boot and the cabin feels light and airy, so it's not all bad. Just steer clear of main dealers for your servicing and you should be ok

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                  My dad bought a new laguna two years age, he bought the 3 litre executive which he thought was a fantastic car, electric seats air conditioning leather seats the works, he paid twenty six thousand for it, but two years down the road he has had nothing but problems, it is on his fourth gear box they keep finding metal fragments in it, the air conditioning has gone wrong, they keep losing the lights on the instrument panel, and the steering rack broke. I think this is quite disgusting for a two year old car, luckily dad has bought several company cars and vans before and they have always had the car staight back in to repair and got the problem sorted out, but the fact is this car is rubbish and i am sure he would never buy another renault again. If it hadnt been for all the problem the car is lovely to drive, you have the speed when you need it, the electric seats are good and the air condition is nice when we have the weather to use it. This is also a car you need to be able to afford to run i had it one week and just takeing the children to school and picking them up i put seventy pounds worth of petrol in it, i dont borrow it any more unless dad fills it up first.

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