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      14.09.2009 21:00
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      The engine lets it down

      The Rover 75 I had was the 'Club SE' version, it was a 1.8 litre petrol engine and came with climate control. The reason why I am talking in past-tense is because the car eventually gave up in typical rover style and was sent to the scrap yard a couple of months back.

      Please don't misunderstand me if I sound like I didn't like this car, I was very found of everything but the engine! The car its self was a 2000 model (W reg), and the bodywork and interior was very good in many ways.

      The Rover 75 is a neo-classical style, very similar to a Jaguar released around the same time and I personally think that the Rover 75 looks the better of the two (I am not for one minute saying it is the better car, only that it looks better). The interior was very comfortable, very large cushioned seats that could move back, forwards, up, down and probably upsidedown if you tried. The steering wheel was leather coated and the walnut dash looked fantastic. The intergrated climate control was one of the best I've encountered, indepedant controls for the driver and the passanger, and the air conditioning could turn your breath to ice if it was turned down enough.

      Driveability wise, the car was very smooth and comfortable, especially at motorway cruising, making any speed effortless. Its noise-proofing was excellent, which has only really been appreciated after moving across to a Fiesta and hearing the difference there is. The power wasn't always as much as you needed, but ample given it was only the 1.8 version and a V6 can be had if you wanted. The fuel consumption was not the best however, achieving a best of 48mpg, pretty much all motorway driving at 60mph, around town it is common to get low 30's as an mpg value.

      The body work was very good and although the car was 9 years old, not one single bit of rust was present. All the electrics worked which in my experience tend to be the first things to go on cars. Even all four of the windscreen washer squirters functioned well.

      Finally the Engine, and where to begin...After buying it with a reconditioned engine with new valves and sleeves, etc. after the head gasket went on that one, I drove it for around a year with no real major problems, then it started to use quite a large amount of coolant, probable cause, head gasket. After having this replaced, it started to use quite a lot of oil, probable cause of this, worn piston rings. This however, would have ment a new engine, so I decided to put up with the oil usage for now as it wasn't going through all that much (I'd had worse in the past). But then again, suprise suprise, it started overheating for another time, head gasket had gone again! In total I have had 4 rovers, and of these, 3 of them had head gaskets fail. It was purely the engine that let it down, if it wasn't for this, it would have been a great car, but once the reliability and trust in a car goes, its time for the car to go.

      Overall, this car was the most comfortable car I have owned but it was the engine which was the problem. Shame!

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        18.09.2006 18:41

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        A very luxurious car for very little money. Smooth ride and handles very firmly when pushed and feels secure to the road.

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        02.01.2003 23:12
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        What's a early-thirties man doing with an "old-man's" car ? More importantly, why did he spend his own readies rather than company money on a Rover 75 just over a year ago? Simple, this car has style and it has class and this is the return to where Rover used to be before even I was a twinkle in my mum and dad's eyes. I've always admired the company and unlike many people, I've taken the trouble to read up on them rather than rely on what the man in the pub says. Rover based the 75 on the first post-war car it made called the P4 75, hence the styling cues from an era where Rover made well-engineered cars using the most modern technology available. Rover in the next thirty years made cars loved by royalty (The Queen had a Rover P5 that she drove herself) and government, again, the P5 was the personal favourite of no less than four Prime Ministers. Rover even dabbled with jet engines entering a car in Le Mans. Rover invented the Sports Saloon with the V8 Powered P6. Unfortunately most people remember them for strikes and dodgy cars made in the late Seventies than any other reason. So why a 75? It dares to be different and it provokes something unusual about modern cars, an opinion. Cars are not homogenous lumps of metal, sadly all too prevalent in today's mediocre, same looking cars. With a 75, you love them or hate them. Ironically perhaps, they are somewhat exclusive, BMWs are quite common in comparison. For me, the 75 isn't a copy of a Jag, it is a real Rover, back to the same values of the real Rover company not the renamed BL of the 1970s. The Rover 75 design project was tabled before the Jaguar S-type. The S-type is a car I've driven as well as a pool car and I'll make the comparisons as I go along. After two test drives, a 2L and 2.5L I went for the Connoisseur 2.5 V6 which I bought from a very helpful dealership and I wanted to buy British. Firstly
        , the exterior styling, the quarter view is perhaps it's most impressing aspect, it looks solid, statesmanlike. In terms of design, the people that designed it love cars, they understand what makes a car look good. The lines flow from front to back and it has gentle curves. Initially when it was released it looked odd to the other cars being made at the time. Over time, this car has really grown on me, when I came to buy one I was already hooked. Simply put, it is beautiful. No wonder the Italians voted it 'Most beautiful car in the world' in it's year of release, now that's a compliment. Everything is in the right place, from the four front headlights to the inobstrusive parking aid sensors. It doesn't look aggressive but it has a steely purpose. The Jag looks like a Jag but in all honesty the boot on the S-type really looks like afterthought. Next, the interior. This is where the Rover wins hands down over all the cars in this sector and like many car journalists there are many that agree that the interior would not look out of place in a Bentley. They have used wood veneer and leather to great effect. The ergonomics are brilliant and it just looks right. My friends were sceptical when I said I was getting a 75 but after ferrying a few of them around they were won over without the need for me to extol the virtues of it. I'm asked if I'm driving to a party and if I can give them a lift, biccering has been known to break out. The seats are very comfortable, supportive and the driver seat is completely adjustable, the gadget are fantastic, easy to use and all well positioned. Simply, premium cars around the £20,000 have little in the way of an 'interior'. With the Rover, you get the full works, leather, climate control, great stereo, electric everything right up to the incredible Sat-Nav pack. The only quibble is there isn't so much room in the back but compared to two of my friends 3-serie
        s BMWs (Coupe and Convertible) is it on a par for rear legroom. The stereo is a 12 speaker Alpine unit and it is fantastic, the only gripe is the autochanger in the glovebox. As for visibility, the rear window is quite small and the high sides do make it harder than some other cars to see around you, however unlike some cars, the doorposts are not so thick to inhibit your perpherial vision. You also can't see much of the rear boot so if you are going to get a 75 make sure it has the parking sensors. After the interior, the engine. This is one smooth lump, it is there when you need it and i t will happily cruise for hours with no intrusive sound in the cab. It is too easy to cruise along without realising on the motorway that you are exceeding the limit. Economy is on a par with other 2.5 litres and 30mpg is the norm. The gearbox is precise and the travel isn't too bad either to select the right gear or depress the clutch. Compared to the Jag, the Rover engine is smoother, the gearbox is much more precise. The drivetrain is better than the Jag put comparisons are a little unfair, the S-type is rear wheel drive, the 75 front. The 75 engine is smoother and gives a fantastic 'burble' at higher revs and it is capable if pushed, maximum torque at about 4,000 rpm means that progress is possible without too much noise. Handling, well, this is not a sports saloon, if you want one of the those, there are plenty around including the MG variant of the 75. The 75 soaks up the bumps without any scuttle shake or any discomfort, this is one very solid car, it looks it and it is it. It can be pressed if needed and the body roll isn't so bad as you make you feel unsafe, there is some understeer but that is an acceptable way of telling you that you are pushing the car up to its normal envelope. In terms of safety features it only missed the 5-star NCap rating because it doesn't offer side airbags as standard.
        Lastly, this is the one thing that everyone asks me about, reliability and build quality. Well, earlier models had a few glitches resulting a recall. Mine already had the suspension springs replaced owning to cold weather causing fatigue (not likely in damp Britain). Compared to the MINI for example, it's three to the Mini, two to the 75. Bearing in mind the 75 had been available for twice as long. My own car has had nothing go wrong, no niggles, nothing to disappoint me. The switchgear feel sturdy and well made, the trim has stayed put, the shutlines are precise and the doors slam with that quality 'thunk'. This is one very well screwed together car, it is quality. It's high rating in the JD Power surveys only confirms this. I love it and I've put 11,000 miles on it and I really look forward to driving it everyday. This car has soul, you put on the miles and it's a pleasure and easy to drive. You arrive where you are with none of the discomfort of stiff legs. On one drive, a booze cruise to Calais, it was a doodle. Parking it up just outside Calais for a coffee prior to our shopping excursion it drew many admiring glances from the normally partisan French. That to me, says it all.

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          07.05.2002 17:13
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          I drive a company Rover 75 and do about 20k miles a year. I thought I'd give you my views on how things have gone. The car has a retro look that will either appeal or not - there's no middle ground. It is heavy and in the 2.0 and smaller engines woefully underpowered. Mine is a 1.8 and consequently driving it gives me a feeling that it accelarates only due to curvature of the earth! The interior is well laid out and comfortable for long hauls up the motorway. However, the plastic doorstrips which protect the carpet edges near the doors keep falling off. Boot space is good though. The main thing I want to warn you about is the automatic gearbox. Out of the blue, mine stopped working whilst driving along the motorway. The fault (with the gearbox computer) left the car stuck in 4th gear with no ability to change - even manually. It took over 3 MONTHS for Rover to fix the problem and throughout I was faced with complete indifference as to my plight. My advice then is to avoid Rover, the 75 especially and the smaller engined ones in particular. Finally, run away from the automatic gearbox. In short, do yourself a favour and just say no.

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            30.03.2001 05:15
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            I took delivery of my new Rover 75 in December and can honestly say that it is a pleasure to drive. I have had several brand new cars over the years and never have I had so many comments made on my new car as I have with this one. The most common comment is "Have you got a Jag?" Not only does this car look good, it is very comfortable when going on those very long journeys. My Rover 75 has a diesel engine and the consumption is above average, I get 50 miles to the gallon on motorway driving so cost effective as well. As far as Rover is concerned, the after sales service is excellent, I have never had a problem with my local dealer and unlike Ford Dealers, I do not have to take my husband with me when reporting a fault, they really do believe that I know what I am talking about. Its ok passing an opinion on a car that you have test driven around the block, but seriously, if you want a true opinion, speak to an Owner

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              21.02.2001 18:10
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              I had always admired this car when driving my carina, nice looking on the outside - sort of Jaguar s-type without the badge - and with the price hanging around 16000 seemed sort of sensible to take a look. sat in this car 6 weeks back when i was mini-cabbed into work, driver had got it as a courtesy car, but seriously hated it when I brought up my desire to try one. looking at it from where he was sitting i culd see his point. He was only just 6foot and his head was touching the ceiling, there were more blind spots then i've had hot dinners, clock was invisible from the drivers side, whilst passenger space in the back was designed for dwarfs. Going with a retro style is a gamble for any modern manufacturer and Rover are to be congratulated for the attempt, however although the designers of the Rover 75 have produced a car that is distinctive, - it looks big, far bigger than in fact it turns out to be from the inside -, and definitely looks class, - you can feel the amount of chrome embellishing the lines - it simply isn't a car capable of being driven. If all that touches you is the outsides view of your inside world then by all means try it out, but if you are driven by driving it is not a car that I would be tempted to recommend For this titanic of cars, I apologise to all who own her.

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                14.12.2000 00:57
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                There's a personnel crisis going on at the Slough factory of a well-known paperclip manufacturer. The production manager has called head office. He needs an expert to solve the problem, and he'll need to arrive in the sort of car that makes the right impact of course. It will have to be an executive charger; something smart, dynamic, thrusting. A car that says they're the sort of person who stays in the office late and doesn't run off home for their tea. The transport should be sufficiently suave and sophisticated to give our executive that polished look, be comfortable and relaxing and come with all mod cons. Some might say that Rover's 75 is too small to be included in this sort of test. That's not how Rover sees it. When we asked if the company considers the 75 to be a rival to the Omega, the reply was "very much so". The front wheel drive 75 replaces both the Rover 600 and 800, so it straddles two sectors. So we interviewed the V6 for the job. Exactly what the 75 says about its driver is quite hard to quantify. Turn up at a new place for the first time and your colleagues might assume you have come to deliver a reluctant calf, not placate a truculent work force. But the 75's tweedy, retro, English countryside looks could be an asset, for that grille and twin front headlamps win most people over. By the time they have examined all the chrome and savoured the almost Rolls-Royce-like rear end, most folk are completely smitten. Most, but not all, because for some the 75 is just a bit too young-fogeyish, a bit too William Hague. No sooner has the row in Slough been smoothed over than news comes through of trouble at a mill up north - time to dash for the motorway. Big cars with relatively small engines tend not to make happy dashing machines - and even the 1,465kg Rover, easily the lightest choice of the class, feels sluggish pulling away from a junction. But by the time its up in
                to third gear with a few revs on the clock its begun to shake off its slothfulness. There is little wrong with the Rover's gearshift, but the Rover has the most noticeable transmission shunt of its class. It's nowhere near the problem which effected the earlier models we tested, and only really happens under hard acceleration, but its still there. There's a lot of grip from the 75's very safe front-wheel-drive chassis, but there's also too much body roll. Drive the Rover hard and it feels like you are taking part in a Dixon of Dock Green car chase as it wallows from corner to corner. The steering, although precise and accurate, is disappointing numb. Although it provides a superbly comfortable ride on A-roads and around town, ultimately the 75 feels happiest on the motorway. There, it wafts its occupants along in supreme comfort with barely a whisper of engine noise. Only wind noise from the front pillars and annoyingly small door-mirrors blight the Rover's motorway repertoire. The Rover's interior offers the peace and calm of a country house library, along with most of the period trimmings. The wood is real, but it's so shiny it looks plastic. Old fashioned chrome-ringed dials continue the classic theme set by the exterior, but they sit along side modern electronic readouts. Three headrests are provided in the back of the Rover, but that's a bit ambitious, at least where carrying adults is concerned. The front seats could do with more support too. The Rover has a low price tag, and a relatively low insurance group of 11 for the V6. It is also a reasonably well kitted-out car, even though it does lack cruise control as standard equipment. the 75 has also improved dramatically since those first models we drove and found lacking, although some glitches remain. But for anyone who loves the styling and it prepared to put up with the lack of interior space, it makes good sense - and tha
                t's financially too.

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                  29.11.2000 13:16
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                  Rover have done incredibly well to make a car with so much class. The car looks very posh and drives very smoothly. Some people even mistake it for a Jaguar. In some ways, Rover have actually defeated the BMW 3-Series in the compact executive class. Previously, Rover's big saloons were clumsy and undesirable but the Rover 75 changes all of that. The interior is filled with gadgets to play around with and there are lots of things that come as standard, e.g. Climate control, leather interior e.t.c. Overall the Rover 75 is a fantastic improvement but the reason I have given this car 4/5 is that after all it is a Rover.

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                    21.09.2000 00:39
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                    A few months ago rover dealerships were offering the crazy deal of a 24 hour road test with unlimited mileage. All I had to do was arrange temporary comprehensive insurance through my broker, which surprisingly didn't cost anything extra. So armed with my temporary cover note and my driving licence I marched into the showroom one Friday morning to claim my prize. Yep, they hadn't been joking, 'here's the car', they said, 'its brimming with petrol - go play with it'(or words to that effect). Well it would have been rude not to, surely.... I had arranged the test drive to coincide with a trip (from Sheffield) to St. Albans and back in a day. So I reckoned that I would get a good idea of how the car was overall. Initially driving around in Sheffield, which is full of hills and pot-holed roads I wasn't impressed. The car is definately on the very heavy side of heavy and you really had to floor the accelerator to gain altitude. This was the 2 litre version, so I reckoned that the 1.8 would really have struggled. On the plus side however I have to report that the interior is beutifully finished. I'd managed to blag the Connoisseur SE (Hi-Line Nav) model which seems to retail at about £30,555, with all the extra bits that had been attached to it. Luckily I was blissfully unaware of this price tag at the time. The best gizzmo was without doubt the satellite navigation system - truely awesome to be able to see yourself as a moving dot on a screen map, as you whizz down the M1. Indeed the motorway is where this car is meant to be - once it has put up all it's sails, it breazes along quite happily. However quick bursts of acceleration are indicated on the fuel gauge as well as on the speedometer. Well a quick turn round in St. Albans and back up the motorway. It was dark by now and the cars interior dashboard lights did look very classy. At one point on the M1 when we all ground to a halt I to
                    ok the opportunity to switch from the sat nav to TV, but reception was a bit dodgy (somewhere in Leicestershire I think). Later, as I drew up outside my house the sat nav confirmed that "you have arrived". Well not really, but it was nice pretending for a day...

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                      23.08.2000 21:24
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                      ROVER 75 I went along with a friend to test drive this car which undoubtedly looks from the outside very like the Jag. I was prepared to like this car because of its looks but once inside I changed my mind very quickly. The leather seats in the top of the range don’t feel like real leather and the dash, well Woolsey eat your heart out. My friend was convinced this was her car and couldn’t understand what was wrong with me, why I didn’t like it. She ran very well quite quiet in fact, and it was nothing I could actually put my finger on, I just didn’t like it. To me this is an old, no let me correct that mature persons car who never drives over 40, who like to polish it every farts end and has to be seen driving it. Not my car.

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                      11.08.2000 03:58
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                      The first time I travelled in the Rover I was more than a little sceptical about it. I thought the car would be certain to break Rover and signal the end of sort of British made mass produced cars. My first impression of the car was bad, the windows were too small and the engine sounded slow and strained; the car felt very enclosed because of the windows. However, the car grows on you, its style is a bit different, retro in a modern facing way. It’s very comfortable and reasonably quiet with lots of room for bodies, but little for luggage. Perhaps overpriced but surpassing other Rovers in reliability and style. Good luck to it, and it will need it in its field; not a family saloon, not an executive motor – in a way redesigning the wheel?

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                      06.08.2000 16:31
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                      I took one of these cars home for the weekend from work. It looked the business. It looks like a Jaguar S type and in a dark colour (black, navy or green) it looks like a very sleek, executive vehicle. The interior was all decked out in wood veneer, but the cloth seats looked cheap and tacky. The car I took home only had 13000 miles on the clock and already it was starting to fall to pieces! The door trims were coming off, one door handle was loose and the upholstery looked all bitty and as if it had seen better days. Now I know that fleet cars are treated really badly, but at 13k you expect it still to all be sticking together! This rover needs very high revs to get it going (as do all rovers) but I'm sure that once you got used to that, then it would be a really nice, smooth drive. A bit thirsty on fuel and expensive if compared to other vehicles in its' class. I would recommend it as a company car but not to a private buyer.

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                      23.07.2000 06:02
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                      I went to the 1998 Motor Show at the NEC, and expressed an interest in buying the new Rover 75, So I got the top notch treatment. I had a guided tour of the car, and I was shown all of its features. If you have seen one of these beauties on the road and thought, 'that’s nice,' trust me, IT IS. It resembles a Jag in many ways, but there is a lot about it that screams Rover too me. I saw the top of the top of models, and the interior is above all my expectations. It is so well thought out. The dash board and all the driving controls are typical Rover, the walnut and white backed dials. The outside looks great too, and it is a dream to drive. The V6 gives a lovely kick, it is great in acceleration, and as smooth as anything I have ever driven. It is one of my favourite cars.

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                      16.07.2000 02:43

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                      Rover's first brand new car since the Rover 200 in 1996 is fantastic to say the least. At last, some people have started to praise the Rover company for making a product that is not 'terrible'. However, I would have to disagree with that fact as all the present Rovers are all pretty good, although the 45 has not been so. The 75 is a great mix of class and refinement and this makes it better that the Jaguar S-type. Due to its price and wonderful BMW and Rover engines, it comes above the S-type for me. Also, as one motor magazine stated: "it out-Jag's a Jag" proves that this car is one of the leaders of its class. Please buy British and then Rover can make more cars like the 75.

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                      09.07.2000 21:32
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                      This car is amazing it fantastic and its the best car rover have ever made. It strong, safe, well built, great looking and has a the best insides. It the car to buy. people say it looks like the jag but the 75 was put in to development first and thus the jag copyed the 75. Now the new owner are thinking about doing a MG 75, thats going to be one hell of a car. over are now back on their feet and are building great cars, great BRITISH cars. Thats about it really, I would like to thank my family and everyone how knows my computer and finally my cat.

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