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"...My cousin (alleged hijacker on 9 11) was recruited by the Central Intelligence Agency near the end of the Soviet-Afghanistan period together with a number of other
men from the middle east and trained at a place called Harvey Point, North Carolina, also at Fort Benning in Georgia and at a Special Forces training camp in Panama. On September 11, my cousin and his team were at the National Security offices at Fort George Meade, near Washington, where they witnessed the controlling of the planes from
the room where the Anti Air Piracy system is installed. Shortly after noon, the team was taken to the Andrews Air Force station, from where a military jet brought them to Jiddah...."

Salim Atta

The above is an interesting e-mail, supposedly from Salim Atta, which has appeared on the internet.

So, CONSPIRACY THEORY NUMBER ONE is that September 11 was the work of Bush and company. Was there really a vast al-Qaeda network made up of Moslem fanatics?

The Times, on March 11, pointed out that security authorities in more than 60 countries have arrested suspects linked to bin Laden, but NONE of the hundreds detained have yet been found to have any links with terrorism. The FBI have failed to find a single al-Qaeda cell operating in the USA.

What about Algerian Lofti Raissi, arrested in London? The Americans claimed to have a video tape and other evidence that he trained pilots who flew into the Pentagon.

Channel 4 News on 12 February : "there is no such video tape and many of the other claims made by the Americans turn out to be COMPLETE FICTION." The judge released Raissi.

What about these Moroccans?

Italian police claimed they had foiled a plot to blow up the US embassy in Rome and poison the city's water supply. But the evidence against the nine Moroccans charged with being Islamic terrorists is not there.

"The men were more interested in wine and women
than jihad and only a couple of them were even regular mosque-goers," according to The Herald.

The most incriminating item found against the men -- a map-- was in fact instructions to find their way to a restaurant, The Tiger In The Desert.

Explosives found by the police apparently turned out to be fireworks left over from ones that one of the Moroccans sold in Porta Portese flea market over the New Year period.

Common or garden chemicals for gardening, found in a garden shed, were not necessarily intended to be used to poison Rome's water supplies.

OK, so what about the Shoe-Bomber?

According to The Telegraph, Reid flew to Brussels on 7 December 2001. There he handed in, to consulate officials, a
passport 'which had had several pages torn out.'

British officials do not issue replacements for passports which have had pages torn out, without first conducting an inquiry into the matter.

Yet Reid got his new passport and it contained no evidence that Reid had visited Israel.

However, a single clever western journalist found out that Reid had enjoyed a FUNDED trip to Tel Aviv on El Al Airlines during 2001. Reid obviously had friends in high places.

PARIS (Reuters) - "The French daily Le Monde reported on Tuesday that the United States had broken up a huge Israeli spy ring.

Le Monde said a secret study showed the Israelis posed as graphic arts students and tried to enter buildings belonging to the Drug Enforcement Administration and other U.S. agencies."

Intelligence Online, a Paris-based newsletter that reported on the study Monday, said some 120 Israeli spies had been arrested or expelled and inquiries were continuing.

Le Monde said more than one third of the suspected Israeli spies had lived in Florida, where at least 10 of the 19 Arabs involved in the Sept. 11 airplane attacks on New York's World Trade Center and the
Pentagon also lived.

At least five of the spies resided in Hollywood, Florida, where alleged hijacker Mohammad Atta and four accomplices in the attacks also lived, the paper said.

Two Israelis lived in Fort Lauderdale, near Delray Beach, where hijackers in the planes that crashed into the Pentagon and in Pennsylvania resided temporarily, the report added.

The Vancouver Sun is one of several newspapers that have questioned the official version of 9 11.

Ian Mulgrew, writing in the Sun on 23 Feb 02, wrote: "Just as there remains lingering doubt that Lee Harvey Oswald fired a burst of fatally accurate shots from the Texas Book Depository, so there is skepticism that cells of Islamic terrorists secretly coordinated and simultaneously commandeered four commercial jetliners.

"The culprit responsible for the Sept. 11 attack is now rumoured to be the same one who lurked behind the grassy knoll: the oil-dependent U.S. military-industrial complex....

Mulgrew mentions von Buelow.

In Germany, a former minister of technology, Andreas von Buelow, made headlines when in an interview he dismissed the U.S. government's explanation that Osama bin Laden's al-Qaida network is responsible for the attacks. His own explanation implicated the White House.

"I wonder why many questions are not asked," von Buelow said. "For 60 decisive minutes, the military and intelligence agencies let the fighter planes stay on the ground; 48 hours later, however, the FBI presented a list of suicide attackers. Within 10 days, it emerged that seven of them were still alive."

Mulgrew, in the Sun, writes: "In Britain, a flight engineer has published a detailed paper asserting the U.S. took the joysticks out of the pilots' hands using a method of remote control developed by the American military in the 1970s.

"In the U.S. and Canada, independent publisher and editor Mi
ke Ruppert (a former LAPD cop who hates the CIA) has drawn huge crowds to his two-hour lecture in which he states baldly that the U.S. government was complicit in the attacks and had foreknowledge. He opens his documentary presentation with an offer of $1,000 US to anyone who can prove any of his sources were misrepresented or inauthentic.

"A former U.S. government agent also has given interviews claiming the CIA has been dealing with Osama bin Laden since 1987.

".....Consider first that the intelligence breakdown that led to 9/11 appears to have been a consequence of the Bush Administration telling the Federal Bureau of Investigation to back off on its investigation of Middle Eastern terrorism. A senior FBI investigator resigned from the agency, noisily claiming its main obstacle in the investigation was Big Oil's political influence. In an ironic twist of fate, the agent died in the World Trade Center.

"There also are recurring reports the CIA station chief in Dubai met with bin Laden only seven weeks before 9/11 while he was laid up for surgery. (The CIA denies this, but of course you can't believe anything it says.)

The Independent in London questions how Bush could claim in two public appearances to have seen the first plane hit the first tower long before any such TV footage was broadcast. The paper also asks why Dubya continued sitting with elementary school students after the second tower was hit and he'd been told, "America is under attack."

Very odd, when standard procedure for such a situation is to whisk the president away to safety. Unless -- and here is the nub -- unless he knew something more than we did that morning. As the Independent asked, "What television station was HE watching?"

In the days before the attacks, there was unusually heavy trading in airline and related stocks using a market tactic called a "put option" that essentially be
ts that a stock will decline in value.

Cynics are also questioning the incredible speed with which evidence in the WTC collapse is being destroyed. Never in the history of fire investigations, they say, has evidence been destroyed before exhaustive investigations are complete.

Anthrax? Anthrax sent to a top Democrat and to the U.S. media helped unify the nation behind the war effort while literally shutting down Congress -- a remarkably useful outcome for Dubya and his gang.

Specialists in biological warfare say the anthrax is a U.S. military strain and the culprit an American scientist and his friends. (He is named in certain internet sites.)

Mulgrew writes: "And who didn't smell a bad odour two weeks ago when Tennessee driver's licence examiner Katherine Smith died in Memphis under "most unusual and suspicious" circumstances. One day before her arraignment on charges she conspired to provide phoney licences to five Arabs tied by the FBI to the 9/11 attacks, her car crashed into a utility pole. The car was only slightly damaged, the gas tank was full and intact, but the vehicle was immediately engulfed in flames.

"As one report pointed out, Smith and the car interior apparently were doused with gasoline, which would certainly qualify in my book as at least "suspicious."
And Memphis ... Memphis? Wasn't that the same place a noted Harvard bio-warfare expert "fell" off a bridge in December?"

...The Pentagon has just established a new Office of Strategic Influence that calls for the planting of false stories in the foreign press, phoney e-mails from disguised addresses and other covert activities to manipulate public opinion.

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CONSPIRACY NUMBER TWO concerns the MYTH that 1. The leaders of christianity always get it right 2. The leaders of Islam always get it wrong.

Many early Christi
ans were slow to understand the teachings of Jesus (Love your enemies; see your own faults; be a good Samaritan; you reap what you sow). Was Jesus the same as God? How could he be the same as his Father? How could God be tempted by the devil? What was the Holy Spirit? Do we have more than one life?

The Emperor Constantine decided to hold a committee meeting, the Council of Nicaea, and get an imposed solution to problems of doctrine which would suit his political purposes. The result was the Nicene Creed, the latter being a human attempt, by one particular faction, to describe the complexity of God or ultimate Reality. More conspiracies of a political nature were to follow.

Shortly after the Council of Nicae in 325 A.D. Emperor Constantine, the first Roman Emperor to become a Christian, had over 3000 Christians executed because their interpretation of the Bible did not agree with his. That is more than the number of Christians who died at the hands of the non-Christian Romans. 3000 Christians executed! Think about that.

In 777 , Charlemagne, a 'devout' Christian, after conquering Saxon rebels, gave them a choice of becoming Christians or being executed. When they refused to convert, he had 4500 of them beheaded in one morning. So, are Christian leaders always correct?

The Crusades began in 1095 when Pope Urban II called for a holy war to invade Palestine. Urban was the Bush/Blair/Sharon of his day. The end justified the means.

The Crusaders began by killing Jews in France and Germany. Leon Poliakov writes "Along the road to Palestine, through Germany, Bohemia, Hungary and the Balkans, the crusader mob burned Jews alive in their houses and temples, forced them to baptism at swordpoint, raped and committed other atrocities against young and old. In Prague alone they murdered several thousands Jews"

In 1122 Christian crusaders entered Jerusalem and slaughtered men, women and children, " u
ntil their horses were knee deep in blood. We then went to the church to thank the Lord for his mercy."

According to Draper's History of the Intellectual Development of Europe "when the Khalif Omar took Jerusalem, A.D. 637, he rode into the city by the side of the Patriarch Sophronius, conversing with him on its antiquities. But in the capture [of Jerusalem] by the Crusaders, the brains of young children were dashed out against the walls; infants were pitched over battlements; men were roasted at fires; some were ripped up, to see if they had swallowed gold; the Jews were driven into synagogues and there burnt; a massacre of nearly 70,000 persons took place, and the Pope's legate were seen partaking in the triumph."

The Moslem Koran makes it clear that God is the God of Jesus, Abraham, and Moses. The Koran states that God is pleased with both Christians and Moslems. The Koran, Chapter 2, Verse 62: "Those who believe (in the Koran) and those who follow the Jewish (Scriptures) and the Christians and the Sabians and who believe in Allah and the last day and work righteousness shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear nor shall they grieve."

So what about that Nicene Creed? Did Constantine get it right? There has been this vast conspiracy by churches to cover up the fact that a lot of the time the leaders of Christianity got it wrong. It wasn't Jesus who got it wrong; it was people like Constantine who got it wrong. Beware of the 'leaders' of Christianity!

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Conspiracy number three -

The newspaper Scotland on Sunday reported 16/9/ 2001 that bin Laden made his fortune in part by working with Jewish-Russian mafia operations in Qatar and Cyprus.

According to former State Department official Jonathan Winer, all 75 of the top Russian and Ukrainian crime bosses the U.S. government was chasing w
orldwide at the end of the 1990s were citizens of Israel.

Israeli mafias (Russian and Ukrainian Jews who are citizens of Israel) are reported to be deeply involved in drug trafficking and illegal arms deals with militants around the world. Israeli-Russian mobsters are reportedly increasing their control of drug-smuggling routes from Afghanistan. It appears they are making alliances with drug traffickers in Colombia and Peru.

US law enforcement agents have discovered The Cocaine Triangle. Its sides are: Colombian drug barons, Israeli-Jewish money launderers, Jewish-Russian mafiosi . The Colombians funnel the money, the Israelis launder it, the Russian mafiosi provide the muscle

Israeli law enforcement officials estimate that Russian and Ukrainian mafias have invested between $4 billion and $20 billion in the Israeli economy since the 1970s. Israeli law enforcement officials believe that up to 10 percent of the more than 800,000 Russian Jews who settled in Israel during the past 30 years are mafia members.

In June 1996, the chief of Israeli police intelligence, Brig. Gen. Hezi Leder, reportedly prepared a classified intelligence document in which he said that Russian crime groups had become a "strategic threat" to Israel's existence.

Investigative journalist Robert Friedman says some of these crime syndicates are so entrenched in Israel's economic and political establishment that "in the mid-1990s they ran several handpicked candidates for local and national office." Mafia leaders are also believed to have contributed more than $1.5 million to former Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's campaign in 1996, with introductions arranged by Russian-born Natan Sharansky -- leader of the Russian Yisrael Ba-Aliya and interior minister in Ehud Barak's government.

Sharansky has admitted that he accepted political contributions and aid from Grigori Loutchansky, who, according to the U.S. S
tate Department, is a link between Russian organized crime and foreign governments -- in return for resettling Russian Jews.

Netanyahu denied the story that he accepted any contributions from Russian crime figures. However, as prime minister he shut down an investigation of Russian and Ukrainian crime syndicate penetration of Israel's economy and government, which had been launched as a result of police Chief Leder's June 1996 intelligence assessment.


There is reportedly much evidence that Russian and Ukrainian syndicates have supplied huge amounts of weapons to Moslem militants for years, and that they are involved in drug trafficking in dozens of countries.

Robert I. Friedman, the American investigative reporter who is Jewish and Ukrainian, claims that efforts by U.S. federal law enforcement officials to investigate suspected mafia leaders have been blocked internally for years by higher-ups in the U.S. government, or have been hindered by negative publicity asserting that the investigations were motivated by anti-Semitism.

Published U.S. and other reports show that the key cities for the Israeli-Russian and Isrtaeli-Ukrainian syndicates include Tel Aviv, Berlin, Budapest, Buenos Aires, Chicago, Dallas, Denver, Dublin, Geneva, Glasgow, Karlsbad, London, Los Angeles, Macao, Madrid, Miami, New York, Prague, Quebec, Sydney, Toronto, Vancouver, Warsaw and Washington.


News reports, US congressional testimony and statements from governments and law enforcement agencies around the world suggest that the Russian/Ukrainian syndicates keep very busy.

In the United States, these Israeli-Russian-Ukrainian groups have carried out some the biggest insurance, Medicare and shares frauds in history. They also run Internet credit card scams, deal in counterfeit currencies and launder money, traffic narcotics and weapons, run gambling and protection rackets, manage prostitution and sex slave industries, and
steal gasoline and other fuels.

"Ukrainian Jewish mafia kingpins also reportedly laundered about $9 billion through the Bank of New York during Russia's financial meltdown in 1998, and are believed to be fixing games in the National Hockey League.

These Israeli-Russian-Ukrainian mafias are reportedly supplying weapons to insurgents, paramilitaries and drug traffickers in Colombia, Brazil and the Andean region. For example, Ukrainian mobsters operating from Tel Aviv and Kiev are believed to have participated in the shipment of 10,000 AK-47s to the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC) in 1998 through former Peruvian spy chief Vladimir Montesinos.

"Mafia groups based in the North Hollywood district of Los Angeles and Brighton Beach in New York City have also negotiated strategic partnerships with Mexico's Tijuana cartel in Baja California, and with drug traffickers in Colombia, to ship hundreds of tons of cocaine to North America. Russian and Ukrainian syndicates have been swapping weapons for drugs with Colombian drug traffickers, guerrillas and paramilitaries since the early 1990s.

"These groups also have sold huge amounts of weapons to the Taliban and various groups in Serbia, Bosnia, Croatia, Sierra Leone, Congo, Rwanda, Angola and Chechnya.

And Britain? These Mafias reportedly control cigarette-smuggling and prostitution in Britain's Midlands region.

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markw-d

- 31/07/02

Very entertaining but selective nonsense. Rather than challenge the whole thing here, let me take just one example, and that is the "report" of CIA agents meeting Bin Laden in a hospital in Dubai. This story has appeared in newspapers several times since Sept 11th but it has been reported to be in hospitals in Dubai, UAE, Yemen, Sudan, and the latest was that it is in Pakistan!!

In all cases the details are the same...an unnamed hosptal source...a well known local CIA man.....Bin Laden undergoing kidney treatment etc etc.

In other words nonsense.

As for remote controlled crashing of the airliners, how do you explain the cellphone calls from people who were watching the hijackers slice into the flesh of air hostesses with carpet knives?

Sorry Nona, no-one believes that the US government is beyond corruption or double dealing but your "theories" are nothing more than selective anti western propoganda from either people or internet sites with an anti US agenda.

Did you know for instance that Yasser Arafat was actually born a woman and had a sex change at the age of 15?

Of course he didn't, but just because I have published it on the internet now doesnt make it true.
DudeGlove

- 11/05/02

wwooooow.
michaelhudson

- 20/03/02

Excellent.

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