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      13.04.2010 18:51
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      It is real life remember. Not the Bill:)

      This topic is a little bit more serious when compared to what I usually write about but I thought I'd give it a go.

      One of my friends recently joined the Police. As a consequence I began to learn of the dislike for the Police in the UK. Back home in Ireland, I can honestly say that the Police aren't loved by any stretch of my imagination but they certainly aren't hated. They are often referred to as lazy or slow but that is about it. Over here in the UK however there seems to be a 50/50 split between those who appreciate the work that Police do and those who see them as a waste of time and money. I find this extraordinary.

      As a result of this divide I just thought I'd put my case forward in favour of our local Policemen and women. Just take a moment to consider the job they do and the lifestyles they lead. Now consider, could I do their job? I certainly won't be putting my hand up too quickly.

      My friend is always very confidential but his tales from the streets always keep me amused and intrigued at the same time. Some of the issues he has to deal with, a normal person would avoid like the plague. I have a list of questions to ask you. I don't know how many of them you will answer with a positive response.

      (a) Would you feel comfortable searching a drug user with the potential for uncapped needles lying in their pockets?
      (b) Would you like to approach a person whom you knew was carrying a dangerous weapon?
      (c) Would you like to inform someone that one of their family had just passed away?
      (d) Would you like to run into a group of people having a fight and try separate them all?
      (e) Could you deal with a person who had just been sexually assaulted?
      (f) Would you like to go home every night with such serious issues still playing on your mind?

      Ok that's enough with the questions. But if you can honestly say yes to the majority of these questions then you're a bigger person than me that is for sure.

      I honestly think the work these men and women do is remarkable. They put themselves in danger to protect their local communities and I feel they do not get the support they deserve.

      Take for example, driving offences. If we get caught and fined for not wearing our seatbelt we will have a good old moan about how the Police could be putting their time to better use and could be catching real criminals. At the end of the day we should be wearing our seatbelts and we know this. If we go down the road and crash into a tree 5 minutes later we'll be glad of that seatbelt. On top of that, whom will we be calling upon to help us with the results of the crash? The Police perhaps?

      In addition, if people can't solve a problem, whom do they call? My friend once told me of how he had a call out to an elderly lady whose washing machine had flooded her kitchen. The poor lady didn't know whom else to call so she rang the Police. Could my mate tell her that that is not a Police issue and to call someone else? Nope. He went out and dealt with it as best he could.

      I know there will always be the people who say, "That's what they get paid for." I'm well aware of this but at the end of the day their salaries are not anything to shout from the rooftops about. Other professions earn much more with a quarter of the risk involved. In addition, since my friend started working his shift patterns his social life has deteriorated dramatically. We have to organise weeks in advance our next night on the town.

      In my opinion, the Police should be more appreciated, as the most of us would not do their job.

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        03.01.2010 18:45
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        the police do a good job

        I must say that I am very happy and impressed with the service that our local police do. They keep away fights from happening, handle people when they are drunk, keep drugs off the streets and are always there when you need a policeman.

        I can honestly say that I have never had a problem with the police. However, I do think that at times they can be very cocky and there are a few whom just think that they are great and act as if everyone owes them something. Other than that and terms of the service, I really cannot complain.

        When I was trying to sleep one morning and it was around 2am, there were these two drunk teenagers outside my house screaming and singing at the top of their lungs. I didnt really want to go outside because it was really cold, I was half asleep and also did not know what their reaction would be, so I called my local police station and within a matter of about 2 minutes, there were 2 police cars whom escorted the 2 teenagers away and sent the home.

        Other than that, I have never really had a problem, so have not had to rely on the police, but in my opinion and the experiences that I have seen, they are fast and efficient, and at times, there work can be stressful too.

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          03.01.2010 16:22
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          brave people doing a difficult job

          Local police do a fantastic job.
          They work long hours covering 24hrs a day, with often low levels of staff in an ever changing and dangerous world, especially with gun and knife crime on the rise.

          Most people do not see the other side of policing, or maybe they dont even want to try and understand.

          a police officer takes an oath, to which they are duty bound, which means they are on duty 24/7, which can infringe on their home life, and not forgetting thier social life.
          For instance, going to a local pub for a well earned drink on a weekend off can turn nasty, when some drunk recognises you, whom you arrested earlier in the week, and begins to shout abuse and quite often trys to fight with you, all because you were doing the job you were paid to do?? insane?! - not nice!

          Police are bombarded with calls which really are the job of a social worker, as of course police are expected to sort EVERYTHING out, so quite often the time of a police officer is spend dealing with calls attemting to sort neighbourhood disputes

          I noted that some reviews mentioned "policing". Well, on a friday and saturday night, some of the people enjoying a night out and 10 pints later really do need a baby sitter. If this didnt happen, all hell would break loose, with windows smashed and a few bloody noses later. Surely prevention is better?!

          Police officers at the end of the day are human, and dealing with emotional situations can effect the best of them. Seeing a dead child at the side of the road who was innocently sat in the back seat of a car which was involved in a collsion, with no seatbelt, is truely a terrible experience. Especially when not only dealing with the death of an innocent child in your arms, but also dealing with the family before you can deal with your own emotions.

          Most people do not understand that at the end of the day, a police officer is doing his or her job for which he or she is paid for
          Dealing with dangerous situations most of us would not even consider attempting, often putting his or her own life at risk.

          so the next time you see a bobby standing outside a night club, or have the misfortune to be arrested - stop and think "what has this person seen in his/her career" - as believe me, this could well be things most nightmares are made of.

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            22.10.2009 23:31
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            Jail - Gives free drug re-hab - if not in jail - You pay!!!!!

            Copper load of this!!
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            Fact is there maybe a blood bath outside the BBC this week as BNP Nick Griffin gets an early Christmas present courtesy of the UK TV license payer to appear on the Question Time panel. This alone will employ 300 police tonight around the capital as Mr Griffin's reputation attracts trouble. - The introduction of such a hated figure on mainstream TV has caused a stir and the correctly impartial BBC has defended their stance in inviting the BNP leader to the show. Of course it is part of democracy to include any individual with a recognized credibility in politics and the BNP, loathe it or not, did gain 900,000 votes in the recent European elections. This will in fact boost the BNP ratings even higher regardless of the performance of Nick Griffin who is privately educated and quite honestly probably more intellectually minded than his opponents on the panel. - This will cause pandemonium in the streets across the UK in the coming months. - A new trend of National Front-ism has entered the fray with a members pass; and the police cannot do anything about it.

            Local police departments around the UK have been logged onto the EDL movement (English Defence League) - http://www.englishdefenceleague.org to view where they will be demonstrating next against terrorism. The movement has enriched itself and gained huge support on the back of the BNP's recent successes in having a further two posts in the MEP; where 75% of the UK's laws are made in Brussels. In a democratic land the nation has a right to protest peacefully individually, or within a union. The Royal Mail workers are doing this as I write this article. It maybe wrong and very damaging to Royal Mail, but via their union and Chief Brian Hayles the RM workers can explore their rights. - The police do not have any rights.

            In May 2008, Front-line police officers and Chiefs were looking at the possibilities of seeking the right to strike, over Westminster's failure to backdate the police officers pay rise in 2007. At the time it caused ruptures and a massive strain on the relationship they had with Westminster; the government treated their meek and polite requests with scorn and sent the front-line police officers and Chiefs to their local stations without any supper. - Rightly to, our nation's protectors do not have any rights to any such incentives or bail-outs, or back-dated fees owed whatsoever. They are servants, the public servant at that. All because of an ancient piece of Parliament folk-lore in 1919, that condemned the profession as unworthy of a democracy. Chilling isn't it!

            All local police departments or stations based in the UK are signed up to a Police Act 1919. The Act boldly bars our protectors in having any unions, trade or otherwise. They can't even be affiliated with any such bodies to act on their behalf. Any complaints the officers will have will be dealt within the department themselves, no cases usually leave the police domain and so the officers have no direct liberties as individuals in the profession. If, analyzed further the profession reeks of old traditions that stem back to the US Civil War with the Slave trade. It exists in the UK, for our protectors. - Blatant mismanagement from Westminster has berated the profession beyond duty. The pay system hasn't changed for thirty years, not since the 'Winter of Discontent'. - The police have been faithful servants to Westminster since 1919 without a murmur of disapproval yet the 2008 police forum saw an incredible 86% in favour for the back pay to be back dated for the cash-strapped bobby. Westminster dismissed it and stated that if the miniscule figure of around 8 Million was paid out, crazy claims of rising inflation would be apparent if the deeds were done. - Lo and behold when the financial banking system became an abundance of complete mayhem, only three and a half months later the government was filling up the bankers pockets with a major Quantifying of Easing sum of cash so big the Chief of the Bank of England Mervyn King had to authorize government to print money. Callous and down-right double standard policy making.

            The police must have wondered why they bother throwing themselves down to the sword on a daily basis. I must add, don't be fooled I'm not sticking up for this profession. What capped it for me was the pathetic apology from a Police Federation spokesman who stated that because of the state of the financial world, the poor government has had to endure of recent, the police are backing down from their stance on back-pay due, and as usual the government has the full backing of the police. I groaned when I witnessed that statement, just when the profession collected some viable kick-but clauses regarding paperwork bureaucracy, outlandish targets, and demanding back pay from only 2007, which was barely for 14 months. The balloon deflated for me and the profession hit a new low of human right credibility. If, the police profession doesn't demand respect, they don't deserve the respect of the UK public. So, yes here we are 'our protectors' are still squashed with mountains of paperwork, fifteen file sheets for one incident, and tear jerking hours on duty, filling in mandatory claims of 'social disorder, 12 yr old boy, drunk again outside estate, too young to arrest again.

            On a personal note, I've gained contacts via the police force and I can clarify the profession is at the lowest ebb for many years; many are off recouping lucrative careers in Canada, due to baffling policy making by the HO (Home Office) all of which are extra bureaucracy. I witnessed the pointless brain-numbing folk-lore pen pushing system myself recently when I was attacked by an Asian Taxi driver who robbed me after hitting me with a crow-bar on September11th. Ironic eh!!

            The police were quick on the scene; I filed a statement, and asked the officers to go directly to the taxi depot. They didn't. It wasn't police policy. They had to go back to base to file the report. Three days later, I had another officer taking over the case and I was given an IRN code. During the call I expected to be told, when the identity parade was, except nothing. The only thing that was mentioned was another statement had to be made. So another officer came by and questioned me, this time for one and a half hours. He drank three cups of coffee and by pencil wrote word by word an extremely accurate piece, rubbing out any inaccurate details.

            I signed 8 sheets of paper and 3 declarations of my own. To say I was baffled was an understatement. I had a laptop beside me and said that he could use it. Apparently, It wasn't police policy to do this and he gave me a wry smile of discontent followed by a throat clearing noise and pursued with his script.

            I got my entire crow bar inflicted injury pictures on my PC desktop and sent them via email; action stations, at last. No. A week later, I tried to haplessly to see how progress was made to be told it had gone to another officer department; left two messages, no response, emailed a week later, no response. I did get some information regarding the case eventually. Apparently a phone call was made to the Taxi Company that was it. Nothing!

            It was the first time I have ever been a victim like this and if this was a business transaction I'll be well ahead of the game. It is six weeks on. - I'm a victim statistic. The police have my file on record and statistically I'm more likely to be investigated in future according to a legal adviser. I can believe that. In hindsight, if I professed the attack was headlined 'racial' this Muslim maniac would be locked up by now.

            The UK mainland is without doubt under siege from an over populated prison system that is bordering on malpractice, and is non functional to certain groups of criminal acts. We've seen in the walls of Westminster that unethical practices are allowed and rewarded, most of which are deemed as illegal in any other walk of life. - Under the Freedom of Information Act 2000 there are published stats that prize a scary trend. Only 12 people for every 1,000 crimes in the UK leads to final prosecution; compared to 33 per 1,000 crimes in Ireland. - The frightening stats in UK mainland are proof that the HO is in turmoil and is not fit for purpose. This isn't just a coincidence; criminals have never had it so good.

            It doesn't surprise me that this last week the butter fisted Chancellor Alistair Darling has claimed the recession maybe over, after reaping a 0.2 rise in UK growth in the last three months, hardly earth shattering figures. It comes after the fact that Griffin has reaped a mass amount of tabloid lineage that will inevitably cause a hornet stir within Westminster.

            Now that bullet-proof Jacqui Smith left the HO in a blaze of 'Jacqui does Westminster' DVD pursuits; who was the worse ever HO Cabinet Minister. It doesn't surprise me that the laughable police duties are there to counter-act against stopping prosecution. In my case I have to pay to get information, by ring absurd number combinations to leave messages which the ever changeable officers do not contact you. It is just a ploy to give the impression the 'wheels on the bus are turning' not that they actually are.

            I do not feel protected by this failing state. - I am not protected full stop. Stricter levels of deterrents require to be implemented before it gets anywhere near this stage, the brand anti-social tag is barely a slap on the hand. Tough times call for tough measures, and quite honestly the shift patterns of a police enforcement officer is punishing. Health experts claim that there is a direct link to strokes and workers who work shifts, but I bet police aren't even given life insurance as is the fireman. Public servants left out in the cold every step of the way.

            The HO has blood on their hands when it comes to the Pilkington case, or ignored case, as it so happens. The absolute neglect of evil abuse that made life unbearable for Fiona Pilkington; is only one story that made the headlines. There are many like her. Ethnic gangs full of hate and no belonging has and will continue to make a mockery of our current system. It is time for a justice system to strike fear into the hearts of thugs. It's about time Britain was 'Great' again.

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              23.07.2009 13:24
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              West Midlands Police was formed on April 1, 1974, with a strength of 5,282 officers. It incorporated Birmingham City Police, West Midlands Constabulary (Dudley, Walsall, Wolverhampton and Oldbury), Coventry, Solihull, Chelmsley Wood, Sutton Coldfield and Halesowen.

              Today, it is the second largest force in the country, covering 348 sq miles and a population of 2.63 million. It has a strength of over 8,300 officers and 4,000 civilian staff.

              The force is headed by a Chief Constable who is appointed by a Police Authority, made up of elected councillors, magistrates and independent members.

              The Chief Constable is jointly responsible with the West Midlands Police Authority and the Home Office, for running a police service for the area.

              The Chief Constable is based at Lloyd House headquarters in Birmingham and is supported by five assistant chief constables, a director of personnel and a director of administration. Each assistant chief constable has a specific area of responsibility, eg, crime, operations, community affairs, etc.

              The force is divided into 21 operational command units (OCUs) covering the whole region. A senior superintendent is responsible for each OCU, which is divided into a number of sectors.

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                07.06.2009 18:47
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                As a whole a very reliable service.

                I have always been brought up to respect the police and trust them to do what is right. I have had several issues were I have come in contact with them over the last 20 years or so. First time was when I was a lot younger and was sadly arrested for being drunk and incapable. This is were you are at risk to yourself and they put you in custody until you have sobered up. I must admit I was worse for wear and I do not recall a lot of what happened, but I do remember a police officer taking £60 off me and pocketing it. The next morning I asked for it and they denied any knowledge. I was no way in a position to complain - I mean who would they have believed?

                Other occasions have been at football matches were they appear to think that all of us are hooligans. Running horses at you to keep you in line. This is what I get most annoyed about.

                In order to put a balanced view I have also had to contact them on a few occasions for burglary and robbery. They have always been very quick, courteous and helpful. They do seem to have their hands tied in relation to some of the smaller crimes, but this is due to costs. I can hardly blame them, if we as a country and not prepared to give them more taxpayers money.

                If I have any real gripe it really is with the Crime Prosecution Service and judges. In two cases the police have found the culprits in relation to my burglaries but unable to proceed due to the CPS, saying insufficient evidence, even though they had DNA evidence.

                So as a whole I have real faith in my local police, but like all walks of life there are always those that will let the workmates down. Are you listening Mr Policeman who stole my £60, all that time ago.

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                  03.02.2009 20:31

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                  unhelpful sometimes but do a brave job in general

                  I am sad to say that I do not have a lot of faith in my local police. I have quite a few reasons for this, but as they are all personal to me you will have to make up your own mind about whether you do or not based on your own experiences.

                  Firstly, I went to the police station recently with a friend so that she could report a cause of fraud. We were the first people in there, but however the last to leave due to the station being short staffed. My friend is also 6 months pregnant and the station refused to open the public toilets for her. we eventually left there at ten o clock at night after being there for three hours.

                  I also feel that many police officers target individuals and try to set them up for things that they may not have actually done. But however, I do think police officers do a good and brave job, this is just my experiences.

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                  01.12.2008 17:07
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                  protecting people and taking their money too.

                  I think I speak for all police when I review this. But I think people do not need to be policed. They need to be helped. People turn to crime because they are bored or poor. They need to be guided towads getting a job, and building skills which they enjoy and can implement in a job.

                  Also does anyone think that now police are around, nobody really looks out for one another anymore, we just think oh someone else will help them which is wrong really.

                  The police just seem to be there to give out fines, and arrest a certain amount of people a day, which means sometimes even innocent law abiding people can get caught up in this.

                  I have been arrestedfor 'stealing' a bag. When really, I was very drunk, thought it would be funny to dance around with a handbag I'd found, nothing got taken from it, the person got their bag back but I now have a record because I was told by an officer to just admit to doing it, or I would have to go to court, which I also think is wrong.

                  We dont need people telling us what we can and can't do we need people to educate those that have a history of crime.

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                    03.08.2008 13:23
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                    If you pay up you can walk free

                    Ever wandered how recorded crime is Britain is falling? Well they are not recording it anymore, as simple as. The target and league table culture pushed onto the police means they are effectively rewarded for not locking up offenders, instead the emphasis moved on to clear up rates, nicking people you know are going to be able to find guilty on the day, usually ones for lesser offences that will produce instant results. It's better to nick someone who has done a traffic or a public disorder offence than concentrate your resources on more serious crimes you wont be able to clear up as easy, like house burglaries and physical assault by stranger.

                    Fixed penalty fines have been a nice little earner through things like speeding and parking tickets for the Treasury so why not inflict that on the general public as soon as they step out of their cars. More and more crimes are now being prosecuted with a fine, the Law Association saying that rather one too many offenders are now getting fines instead of prison time, the cash going straight to government coffers rather than the offended against. And because fixed penalty notices and fines keep criminals out of courts the person offended against doesn't have the right to receive criminal compensation this way, a double earner for Brown. It also keeps criminals away from the already full jails to keep those numbers down. The criminals given a 'FPN' (Fixed Penalty Notice) are literally offered the chance to box tick their way out of a court case if they agree to the fine, often for serious offences. It's an admission of guilt and so no case. Lawyers are not only getting irate because they are losing court cases and so fees but also on the type of low lives that are now not going to prison. One guy head butted his wife and for some reason the police gave him the chance of a £250 fine to avoid a charge of GBH. That just can't happen, however full the jails.

                    Although the government wont admit crime is rising they have subtly admitted the jails are full of all those criminals that are apparently not out there by introducing early release schemes to empty pack jails, some 13,500 in just two years, a situation that is out of control. In times of prosper the jails should be empty but crime is rising in the U.K, many people like me blaming immigration, one-in-seven off all prisoners now. Once the EU borders were opened up to Eastern Europe and Africa then bang goes the neighborhood. This contradiction for the government can only be straightened out by sending less people to jail, so putting pressure on the police not to send so many criminals to the CPS and the CPS to send less people to court for trial, which is exactly what is happening. A guy bottled someone in my hometown of Northampton in a recent case in the local paper and he got away with a caution. The police offered him a form to sign for a £250 fine to avoid jail. The person offended against had no choice in the matter as he was unaware of this handshake. This action was taken purely to take the strain of the jails and make the police look more competent. Nearly all shoplifters were let off with a fine last year and guess how they got the money together to pay for it?

                    Crime in my manor...

                    Northampton is unofficially the largest town in Europe yet has a surprisingly low serious crime problem, even though we have most of Europe here and all manner of undesirables. We were recently labeled the worst county in England for crime by one study but that was based on the more delinquent and minor offences the courts deal with as we have no serious gun or violent crime here, the Motorway deflecting the drug dealers going from London to West Yorkshire. The fact we have available court time to prosecute people then its obvious there's going to be more reported crime. We do have the usual migrant on migrant murders-nearly half of all killings here last year-but we don't have a specific problem from an ethnic grouping. The 15,000 Poles in Northampton do like a drink at the wheel and account for one third of all trials in the crown court with those high motoring offences ratios, but on the whole we all seem to get along. The big crime zones in the town are white underclass estates in the East and the vice hotspot in the town centre bowl, local cops confining the trouble there. In places like Northampton the criminals do stand out and the cops have a handle on it. With the best CCTV camera system in the U.K we keep an eye on them big time, although those cameras are increasingly used to help ticket cars.

                    Alas, Northampton has also gone down the road of getting rid of the real cops and replacing them with the cheaper and ineffective PSO`s. We have 19 of these guys wandering around the town without police cars, powers of arrest, and any real authority, the guys and girls managing just ONE arrest in 2006. We have also been told we have to cut back the proper coppers because the community tax hasn't bought in enough cash to pay for policing. Because we have the highest transient immigrant population outside of London they don't fancy paying community tax. One-in-nine homes in Northampton house one or more transient immigrants.

                    Crime always seems to be somewhere else in Northampton, the sirens screaming off into the distance to those iffy areas. Yesterday there was an abusive drunk in the busy town centre and three cars turned up to tackle him. The sight off seven coppers (none over six foot) bundling this guy into the van is a sign of the sad health & safety ruled times. It was quite clear the extra manpower was there because the chubby women coppers couldn't deal with the guy. Why have women copper's on a call out they can't cope with? The same coppers also won't look you in the eye anymore in the street when you want to show them respect on their street beat. That I find depressing, the separation between staff and consumer even more distant. I want the coppers to be over six foot, burley blokes, and someone you can respect.

                    The recent knife crime in London is an example of how policing can get skewed. In Northampton we don't have a serious knife and gun problem because we don't have a big immigrant group fighting over territory and respect issues. But because five London boroughs do the MET have had to flood most of their resources into those areas, pushing up crime elsewhere in the capital. 'Operation Blunt', across London, has uncovered the uncomfortable fact that over half of those arrested for knife crime were Afro Caribbean's, this problem localized around the drug trade and so virulent. The bumbling Boris Johnson's first task as London Mayor was to get hold of it quick, bravely targeting those black communities, only two knife stabbings since his arrival. This is what has to be done and will earn the respect that is seriously missing in those urban zones. Well done Boris! If we ever get to those proportions outside the big cities I expect the same targeted policing, however sensitive that is. Tough love baby...tough love...

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                      31.05.2008 23:11
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                      I think they need to improve thier act

                      Well i don't mean to be critical but the last few developments were we have required their services the police either have not turned up or were simply too late on the scene to be of any real help.

                      My mum and dad live on the out skirts of south East Belfast in and around the Newtownbreda area and it is common knowledge that a youth detention center is located in the area, so you would assume there should maybe be regular police patrols or some other form of security routing the area.

                      It is actually a lovely part of the world and they have a lovely house and garden in which my mother ceaselessly seems to produce an endless source of organic vegetables.

                      However a couple of years ago some friends of the family from London brought over a little, old, grey fiesta for my brother to learn to drive with. My mother actually seemed to appreciate it more though and got more use out of it than my brother.

                      It was sitting happily in my parents drive way every night until one morning around 4 am we heard a car drive away awfully close to the house drive way, I was still living with them at the time and am a pretty light sleeper so I came down stairs to see what was happening.

                      What did I find? The car was gone, my father phoned the police, however by the time the police actually arrived the culprits were long gone.

                      The police phoned a few hours later after they had left my parents home to say we found your car in a burnt out wreck, oh and by the way if you don't pay for it to be moved you will be fined.

                      It turns out it was a group of teenagers from the youth detention center a few miles down the road who fancied a joy ride, they were aged around 15 and male apparently and just got a slap on the wrist, where as we got virtually no compensation for the car.

                      Recently a similar event took place with our neighbors car it was also quite an old model and got stolen and burnt out in a similar manor and the neighbors got treated in the same way we did. For all we know it could be the same youths that committed the same crime.

                      In recent years office blocks have also been constructed and every single window has been smashed with either loose bricks from the construction site or rocks.

                      The police seem to have no interest in increasing the security in the area even though the majority of residents are either elderly retired couples and young families.

                      Just because nobody has been greatly injured in the area yet dosent mean that the police can neglect it all together.

                      Therefore due to personal and regional experiences I have very little faith in the police.

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                        Police power, good or bad?

                        Im not doing too disprespect my police force or any police force as they are a much needed force.

                        However im sure many will agree with me when i say that the police are not as effective as they could be, and this i do not belive is the police forces fault, the reason the police cannot act effiecently is the fact that they are all tied up with red tape.

                        In these modern days the world of crime has evolved whereas the world of policing has stood still, criminals are becoming more deviant and in most cases more violent and dangerous. Ethnic crimes rates are rising and this coupled with the rise of youth crime and anti-social behavior proves to be a real thorn in societys side. Now the police could quite effectively deal with these problems were the Government not worried about their image. Nowadays a policeman can't touch you whereas criminals can get away scott free, the government should stop worrying about their statistics and image and act now. The police need more power and more rights to search and control criminals. For each arrest a policeman makes, several hours of paperwork follows this beurocracy is killing the Britsih policeforce, we need to cut them from this redtape and let them do their job.

                        However i can see some potential problems when giving out power to institutions, the problem is that power corrupts, altough the political system is already corrupt andso i feel we need not to worry so much. If the police are given too much power we could be trapped in an authoritan police state, but surely when given the choice wouldn't you rather have more protection than this degenerative society??

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                          11.01.2008 02:58
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                          what was i supposed to do let it keep happening to her?

                          After reporting some one we know for allowing there child to be abused the police asked if i would be a witness and give evidence in court for them, i said yes and have regretted it ever since.

                          The parents of the abused child know what is happening to her and are allowing it to continue to happen so when the police intrviewed the child with her parents present she denied it all so know it is going to be my word against theres in a court room.

                          The police told me to keep away from them and to have no contact.
                          They also told them to stay away from me.

                          So far they have:
                          Made threatening phone calls to me.

                          Tried to abduct my daughter from school.

                          Reported me to the rspca, there was nothing wrong with my animals so no case to answer to.

                          Threatened to shoot my husband.

                          slashed the tires on my car.

                          Tipped paint stripper all over my cousins car.

                          Slashed the tyres on my mothers car twice now.

                          Had ready mixed cenent tipped on my garden.

                          Tryed to get me the sack from work.

                          Cut my telephone line.

                          Turned my water mains off in the street.

                          Stole my security light and camera.

                          Attempted to poison my dog.

                          i have been assaulted twice in the street by friends of theres.

                          And the police still say that there is either not enough proof that it is them doing this to me or that this is not enough to class as witness intimidation.

                          If this isnt witness intimidation then what is it? by trying to help there child i have endangered the lives of my whole family, how is this fair and why wont the police help me.

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                            13.05.2007 21:57
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                            A waste of the tax payers money. A waste of space.

                            Erm, short answer... No! In my opinion, and thats all it is, so feel free to disagree, the police are a total and utter waste of time, space and money.

                            When i was 14 i was a member of an unofficial group of army cadets. It was run by a copper called Tony White, or Chalky. One day i, with a group of others, was on the parade square taking part in our drill or whatever it was called (it was 11 years ago now!), and someone shot me in the hip. The coppers sons were on leave from the marines, and were at the cadet hut visiting their dad, as they often did. The ran off after the blokes who had shot me and caught one of them, and one of their .22 re sprung air rifles. Chalky pointed it at the guys head and asked "is it loaded?" the guy said no, so chalky pulled the trigger. It was loaded. An ambulance and police car came (for some reason only one ambulance) and me and the guy were put in the back of the ambulance. I was handcuffed to the bed because they thought i was gonna beat the living crap out of him (how well they knew me!). Long story short, the guy was never prosecuted for shooting me because he made a deal with the police - if they said there was no evidence to suggest that he shot me, then he wouldn't say that it was chalky that shot him. The paper work was lost and that was that. Chalky then turned out to be a paedophile and had apparently abused and raped half of the female cadets. He was finally arrested.
                            When i was 19 a drunk bloke in the middle of the road when my car was stopped waiting for him to cross, lept at my car, bounced on the bonnet and caused £800 worht of damage. He did a runner but his contract mobile phone fell out of his pocket and it had been right in front of a cctv camera, so i went to the police station to report him. I wanted the damage to my car paid for. 2 weeks later i hadn't heard anything so i went to the station to investigate. The mobile phone had vanished and there was no clear view of him on the cctv. Although i could identify him exactly, that wasnt enough and the police decided there wasnt enough evidence to prosecute. They dropped it all.
                            When i was 19 again, a drunk driver went into the back of my car whilst i was stopped at traffic lights at 70 mph and wrote off my car. A witness called the police for me. The driver drove off and the police never turned up. I had waited over an hour, then i really had to go to the hospital because i had lost so much blood in the accident that i kept passing out. The driver reported it to his insurance that night and because he did so, they couldnt do him for failing to report an accident or not stopping at the scene. Because the police never turned up at the time, they couldnt do him for drink driving.
                            When i was 22 my ex boyfriend beat the living shit out of me. I called the police who, 2 days later, said there was insufficient evidence to press charges. Apparently they thought either i walked into a door, or my daughter, who was 18 months old at the time, had beat me up.

                            Do i think the police are worth their wages... would you?

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                              13.05.2007 21:44
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                              Don't blame the police

                              I have to no story to tell where police let me down. MY opinions are formed from what I read in the papers (Sun, Mail and NOW not included) and watch on TV or listen on Radio.

                              Police Force recruits from society. You get good people and bad people. Police person is human, we all make mistakes. Sadly when police make mistakes it is highlighted in the media. Jean Charles de Menezes case is one example where things can go wrong. The man incharge on that day was promoted later and none of the other police officers were charged for the innocent killing of this man. I think this is bad. Someone has to take the blame. This type of thing is where I think police get away and it is wrong.

                              Police work is risky to say the least. Number of people have died on the job. Society is get more violent, perhaps it maybe time we let police carry firearms.

                              Do I have faith in my local police force. I don't know how to answer this question. Crime is going up. If police was effective than criminals wouldn't roam around the streets.

                              Most police people are honest and do the job to best of their ability. There will be few crooked in every force.

                              Police is less visible. Is this due to shortage? I think police have a problem. Over 70% of crime is commited by known offenders. Police can't do anything about this because jails are full. Petty criminals are let off and they do more damage and use up police time and resources.

                              I don't blame police for problems in towns and cities. Time has come to build more jails and lock up career criminals forever. Forget civil rights of these people because they don't think twice before doing damage to others.

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                                13.05.2007 21:07
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                                Police, how they have changed, whats happened

                                I had been a victim of crime, and been burgled twice. About 12 years ago I was beaten up by a local lad who was well known to the police for assults and burglary, because I had only a little bit of brusing and cuts on my face where he hit me, yes hit me, they would not prosecute. It took them a day before they came out to see me.

                                The next incident was when I had just moved into my new house 8 years ago, some low life scum broke into my house and trashed the place smashed a window, they took anything worth having, they even took my 21st necklace which I had only had for a few weeks, and anything that was going to be hard to shift they just chucked all over the floor I was fuming, and the police would not come out they just gave me a reference number and told me to itemise what I had lost and inform the insurance company. A few weeks later the same lot came back to see what else they could nick, but they cleared most of the good stuff out the last time, and so they just came back and made even more mess, and guess what, the nighbourhood watch bloke who used to spend all day by his window did not see anything........................ still the police still did nothing, I asked around, and I found out from a friend of my brother that the scum who burgled my house had been bragging about what he and his mates had been doing to my house. My brothers friend said this lad was a druggie, and burgled peoples houses to buy drugs, so I went to the police again who admitted knowing this lad, but they had no evidence to arrest him, well why would'nt they send the forensics around my house after the first incident? there was plenty of evidence, because they can't fight real criminals?

                                Now the ending to my story is how the criminal justic system has gone downhill. When you call the police station where I live you are redirected to a police station 13 miles down the road, what happens in a real emergency??????? apparantly at our local police station the police are only there at certain times of the day.................

                                I went to the local police station to report a fraud against me, it took them ten minutes before they would let me in, and the woman apologised and said they only have one person covering the desks, I was appalled so I ask to speek to a police officer as regards to the urgent matter, only to be told there was no officer available, and she would take down my details and they will make an incident report for me, they gave me a crime reference number and told me an officer would get back to me, so weeks went past and nothing, I was getting letters from this company who I apparently owed money to (my name was used fraudulently used to obtain credit) I wrote them a letter and gave them the crime reference number, and said this had been done fraudulently and it had been reported to the police, and to stop sending the letters to me. They eventually did after a few letters and irate phone calls to them.

                                A few more weeks passed, and the police did phone me, but this was the main police station in my county no the one I had origianally reported it to, anyway they said it was identity theft, and they got the person and were closing the case. They would not disclose who this person was, and it did not even go to court which I thought was disgraceful, this must mean it is ok for someone to steal you identity then??????????????????

                                My experience of the police is how lapse they have become over the last fifteen years or so, they used to be interested in preventing and sloving crimes.............

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