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      16.07.2010 17:21
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      I have a mixed review about fruit machines. When I was a child and my parents used to take me to the arcades we used to absolutely love it. We would play on the 2p machines and some of the rides and occasionally on the fruit machines. My parents would always play on the fruit machines. It was usually all for fun and we hardly ever won but broke even or made a few pounds here and there. Fruit machines remind me of the good old days with my brothers and my mum and dad. When things were simple back then. However as time has got on, I dont particularly like fruit machines because you are playing against a computer and you will never win. Fruit machines can be found almost everywhere these days: pubs, restaurants, arcades (obviously) chippies and even some hospitals. I would describe them as electronic gambling machines that are ´fixed` and just something you should see as fun, but not that fun when you lose! There are different types of fruit machines that can be played. My favourites consist of those that have a special bonus area, where you get to play on almost a board game but electronically of course and for money. There are fruit machines that are designed for fun and oters that may appear a little boring but there for the hardcore gamblers. Usually with fruit machines, especially the more modern ones you can choose the demonination to play for. Usually a minimum of 5p or 10p per go and I believe can go up to £1.00 in some of the casinos. But £1.00 per go, well thats just silly money. Overall like mentioned at the beginning I do have a mixed review of fruit machines. They remind me of my fun childhood but now I do not like them much. Some can be fun but only with the right people. The wrong person playing a fruit machine can be very dangerous.

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        26.06.2009 10:46
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        A great fun game if you see it as fun and not as a money maker.

        Fruit machines seem to be every where you turn these days. Shops, restaurants, clubs, pubs, bars, casinos etc and the temptation is always around for people to play a pound or two and see if the machine is going to 'pay out'. There are many different types of fruit machine and some of them have different names such as slot machines or poker machines and this really depends on what part of the world you are in. The main aim with a fruit machine is to put in your money and press the start button to spin the 3 or more reels and then hopefully make a combination which is pre-set by that particular machine and if you match up to one of the combinations then you will win a prize. There is really no particular 'art' to playing a fruit machine and the key thing to remember is that it's an electronic machine and it's already decided what is going to happen to the next coin that goes in and whether it's going to produce a win or not. Also, fruit machines may offer odds such as 93% but this does not mean if you put in £10.00 you will get £9.30 back, it means that every £1,000 the machine would pay out £930.00 but that's not necessarily going to pay any of that percentage out to you! I enjoy the odd go on a fruit machine but I don't feel compelled to play one each time I walk past, however, I do know some people like this and for this reason I think fruit machines should be avoided if you have an addictive personality or don't have any self control. It really is too easy to just chase your losses and continue putting in some more pounds to try and get the jackpot or win back what you've already lost. If you want to enjoy playing fruit machines then only spend what you can afford to lose and see the game as fun and not as an investment of your money. I do find fruit machines to be enjoyable but then I will only play when I don't mind wasting my money and then it's a nice bonus if I get a win at all. I wouldn't actually recommend fruit machines to anybody because they are usually a waste of money, however, because I personally enjoy playing them I am going to rate them 3/5.

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          24.10.2006 11:04
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          if you get on the board and the simpsons turns red take 1 or 2 pound stick a couple of pound in if you get on the board again and the simpsons is red go for super jackpot you will get at least 30 pound to 60 pound if your not so lucky you will get about 15 pound mabey even less most people dont go for super jackpot they just go for 1 or 2 pounds

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            I've been playing fruit machines for a few years now, and if Mastermind catered for the socially inadequate - this would be my choice subject. I wrote this article to try and provide a balanced opinion of why you should or should not play fruit machines, and to give an insight into exactly how these machines operate and just why they are so popular. How could such a machine provide entertainment, and capture the heart and mind of a player in addicted bliss. I've kept it to the point and free from the mass of misleading information you can find elsewhere on the internet. Fruit machines are common the world over, and have become increasingly popular (especially in the U.K) and can be found everywhere - pubs, railway stations, ships, kebab shops ... you name it, the suppliers and operators of gaming machines are keen to cash in, which has lead to their profliferation in any and every location where it's legal (and in some cases, where it's not ...). Desipte this, it's still a relatively small industry in terms of the number of companies involved. There are only a small number of manufacturers, and it won't take you a lifetime to learn the key players - JPM, BFG, Barcrest, Vivid, Impulse, Red Gaming, QPS, Mazooma. A few large distributors and operators supply machines from these manufactuers to the high street. The basic fruit machine consists of spinning reels (yes, with the fruits on), a huge lamp matrix (providing a hypnotic flashing effect), a coin mechanism (accepts and validates coins), control unit (the heart of any machine which runs the program to provide the whole playing experience!), buttons (to interface with the player), and a payout mechanism. All the kit is usually enclosed in a garish multicoloured cabinet which will eat up a large chunk of space wherever it's placed. It's not really the kind of thing Carol Vorderman would consider placing in one of her 'Better Homes'. But simply owning a fruit machine isn't a licence to print money due to a degree of regulation. The most important thing to note is that they run on a system of percentages, this means that 70% of what is played into the machine must be paid back to the player. On the face of it, it seems very reasonable - but compared to the percentages witnessed in other forms of gambling, the basic 70% is dire. Luckily any machine can be set to a percentage from this 70%, right up to 98/99%. Sadly the greedy nature of the industry means that 70% is common place, in the effort to screw the the player in every possible way. The percentage must be met over many 1000's of spins, eg. a machine set to 70% that has taken £1000, must have paid £700 out. The first myth to be easily dispelled therefore is that the fruit machine is a random piece of machinery. In fact, it's a carefully controlled device that must meet a percentage and cannot be 'tricked' into paying out any more money than necessary. In fact, there is very little in the way of 'player advantage' that can be gained over a machine. If a problem is found in the machines programming then it's a simple matter for the manufacturer to 're-chip' machines with the new fixed code. Playing experience counts for little, with even the casual punter being a highly experienced player - knowing how to play a machine these days is almost worthless knowledge as most machines are highly random in their behaviour and will quite happily hand over the big wins to anyone capable of pressing the 'start' button repeatedly. There is almost no skill required or that would be beneficial in playing a modern machine. It really is pot luck most of the time, and a case of being in the right place at the right time. As time marches on the 'Jackpot' value that can be awarded to a player has increased - from £2 or £3 in the 70's to the new £25 machines introduced in 2002. This means that winning the Jackpot is less common place and that modern day machines can be extremely costly to play. It's perfectly possible to play £15 through a £25 Jackpot machine and not receive a penny back ... in fact machine can take £100+ to award a Jackpot and can hold out for long periods without meeting their percentage. There are some benefits in that machines can streak (offer a large amount of wins in a small period of time) for a large amount of money (£50+) when the time is right. But is the chance of winning such a sum worth the huge investment? Most experienced players such as myself will tell you not! But why these machines that offer little in the way of 'value for money' so addictive? Fruit machines are considered to be one of the most dangerous and involved forms of gambling. It's very attractive being able to win a comparatively huge amount of money (a few Jackpots and high wins could add up to £75+) for a small £1 stake in such a small amount of time. Immediacy is the key, a few seconds is the key to both ritches and having no money at all. This is why so many players will spend a huge amount of money playing fruit machines, and totally reject other forms of gambling - such as betting on horses or playing the National Lottery. A spin of the reels will cost you 25/30p, which means a lot of money can be lost in a small amount of time - it's a risky buisness where the danger element gives the player a huge 'buzz' and makes dropping the Jackpot even more rewarding. Manufacturers also deliberately try and make these machines as addictive and possible (there is very little compassion within this industry ...), using small techniques known as 'heart stoppers' to tempt the player into feeding in more money. A good example is programming a machine to leave the reels in a promising position once the last credit has been spent. There were days in the past where a fruit machine could be played for hours on on ly a few pounds. These days it's an expensive and worthless investment that can totally ruin your life as you subconciously fall into an addictive abyss. Entertainment is almost non-existent if you can spend £20-30 playing a machine for ten minutes. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise, and go and spend your money on something more worthwhile. If you want to play these machines for their pure entertainment value, and without the cash requirement then luckily you can - on your PC! Many of the older machines, which were popular in their day have been emulated (reproduce the exact playing experience as they use the same code as the real machine) by MPU3/4 which mainly caters for Barcrest machines, and JPEMU which emulates JPM and ACE games. There is some entertainment value to be had here, and it's good to demonstrate the contrast between machine on various percentages and with different JP prizes. There is a frequently asked questions guide on Maroneys Web Hovel which should help get you started, and is essential reading for the beginner. See the following sites ... JPEMU - www.jpemu.com Fruit Machine World - www.fruitmachineworld.co.uk MPU World - www.mpuworld.co.uk DX Cellent - www.dxcellent.com Maroneys Web Hovel - http://maroneyswebhovel.emuunlim.com MPU Forums - www.mpuforums.com

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              15.02.2002 22:29
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              Fruit machines are becoming more and more popular and addictive these days and more and more people are playing them. You can find them pretty much anywhere from chip shops too casinos. The one problem is that they are very addictive and for some people that causes a lot of problems. There is a way that you can still enjoy playing fruit machines but without loosing any money or spending any money. That is because the fans of fruit machines have created an emulator for the Barcrest fruit machines. These emulate some 100+ machines ranging from new to as old as they get. The greatest part about these machines is that people who just enjoy playing machines for entertainment will not have to worry; everything is the same as it is in the pub even down to the lights. More and more machines are being released everyday and they are available to download at http://www.mpuworld.co.uk/ These machines are very detailed and everything is the same like the sound and the pictures. One thing though that this machine cannot give though is real money. Basically this program is great for someone that likes to play on the machines because they enjoy the sounds the lights and the fun without loosing their money. I find that when I play this it somewhat settles any urge you need to gamble as I mostly do it for entertainment, not just the money. This emulator however is still useful for those people that like to play the real thing. As you can put in as many plays as you like you can pretty much play them for hours on end and memorise the patterns and the ways in which the machine operates. This can prove to be a good skill as you can tell when the machine is in a good or a bad mood and decide whether or not you want to put any more money in. I have found the emulator a great deal of fun and it creates the feel of being around lots of fruit machines. Plus you feel very good when you win the jackpot just like you do on the real thing. It does a very good job of bringing back the old days of fruit machines, as there are a lot of machines to choose from. Whether you like the old type of fruit machines or the new one you can still get both, as there are so many different machines to choose from. The slightly sad part about the emulator is that it can only emulate the Barcrest machines, which for some are not the best. Now that most people seem to be dropping out of the development of any more emulators for different machines the future of fruit machine emulation is looking rather dull But still more roms are being made for the gamers to play with so don?t despair. If you like some old classics like: . Road Hog . Viva Las Vegas . Bolder Dash . The Crystal Maze Download this emulator, it is free and you will get the fun and excitement of winning without loosing a penny of real money. Go to http://www.mpuworld.co.uk/ and download the roms for your favourite machines. This really helped me and is helping reduce the amount of money I spend and loose on gambling.

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                15.02.2002 09:20
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                Fruit Machines! They're everywhere these days! Train Stations, Cafe's, Chippies, Bowling Alleys - You cant get away from them, the reason being......They generate hundreds for the owners. No matter how good you think you are at them, they will always win in the end. They arent programmed to be pure luck, skill or random, they are set to a certain percentage to pay out. The majority of people still think today that fruit machines are luck, and come out with the odd line... "Look! if only you had 1 nudge you could of got the Jackpot"......They are even programmed to do this. The average percentage for a fruit machine to be set at is 78%. This means that for every pound (£1) a person puts a machine, the average rate of return will be 78p. So in theory, you have lost 22p straight away. but of course this is only on average. Machines of recent are gettin more and more complex, not even the regular players have a clue how to play. They are much more Hi Tech than your american machines and OXO machines, which can take days to figure out how to play, but this also meaning costing you money at the same time. Your basic machine you'll see in a pub will be either 25p a go £15 jackpot, or 30p/£15 jackpot, which in itself is a lot just for one press of a button. But a recent change in law has allowed the jackpot to be £25 in pubs, and upto £500 in Bookies. One of the main rules to remember is to never put in what you cant afford, also never to chase your losses, because its likely you'll end up losing a lot more. But the best tip is basically just not to play, because it is so easily addictive, and find that your putting in pound after pound. Fruit machines are for mugs, the industry has gone beyond greedy, but theres that many people out there that continue playing, its keeping the whole monopoly going.

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                  26.06.2001 16:35
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                  I've been playing these machines for at least 10 years now and love playing them, but as we all know there is only one winner! One thing I have learnt is that a little bit of inside knowledge is useful. If you do play these machines regular and still are none the wiser, then I would advise a couple things to do before you next play. Firstly if it's new machine to you try and watch somebody else play it first, the majority of fruit machine players nowadays know there way round machines and you can spot them from a mile away, they are usually doing better than average. Don't be affraid to ask questions either as fruit machine players like to think they know how the machine plays and they can often give you some good tips on how or which features to get in order to win that extra few quid. Best of all visit the fruit machine manufacturers web sites as they give lots of hints and tips on there fruit machines in order to encourage us to play. www.barcrest.co.uk and www.jpm.co.uk are just a couple to start with. JPM actually have an on-line fruit machine simulator that you can play for free and each win reveals a different hint or tip about one of there machines. In general if you want to play fruit machines have a good look around the internet there are hints, tips and cheats all over the place to help you. One thing I know is fruit machine players love to brag about how they won the jackpot and let everyone else know too! because I do! There is nothing better than seeing somebody win on a fruit machine, because it doesn't happen very often. Good Luck

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                    04.06.2001 00:09
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                    I will begin by sharing two pieces of advice my dad gave me years ago about gambling in all forms and they are still true and will always remain so. First – never bet more than you can afford to loose. Regard your stake money as ‘lost money’ and anything you do win as a bonus. Secondly – never bet to recoup your losses. This is a mug’s game and you only just end up loosing more and more in the never-ending quest for the big win, which will put you straight again. The only real winner is the book maker, owner of the arcade, pools company, lottery organiser etc. Anyway on to my love affair with slot machines. When I was a youngster, many moons ago in the sixties, the slot machines were mainly the one-armed bandit types. You inserted an old penny, pulled a handle and watched three wheels turn. The wheels had pictures of various fruits on them and, if you got three the same, you won. Three bells usually got you the jackpot of a shilling, which was the equivalent of twelve old pence for those of you too young to remember. The lowest return was usually two old pence for getting a bunch of cherries on your first wheel and anything else on the other two. The readers of this opinion have now just divided into two factions. Half of you are just saying nostalgically, oh yes I remember those days, and the other half are saying what on earth is this woman going on about? Shillings? Old pennies? The machines now are generally far too complicated for me. A lot of them have a complete game for you to play. First you have to spin the reels and then there are nudges, free spins and all sorts of other weird instructions and a game board to work your way around all of which leave me completely baffled I’m afraid. I can cope with the very simple ones but I have to leave anything complicated to Dave! What I do love these days are those machines that have a pile of coins on a flat s urface with a bar of some kind that moves back and forth to the back edge of the coins. You then drop your coin between the bar and the edge of the pile of coins and, when the bar moves across it pushes your coin into the pile and, hopefully, pushes some of them over the edge into the winnings tray. These machines are so addictive though, because it is so easy to put all your winnings back in just to get that last pile to drop off the edge! The edge where the coins actually drop is slightly raised by the way to make it even more difficult to win. There are various levels of initial stake in all the machines these days from 1p per time, although they’re few and far between, to 50p or £1 a time for the real gamblers! Some of the machines also pay out in tokens, especially for the bigger wins. These can then be exchanged for prizes at the outlet in the arcade where the machines are. I tend to avoid these, as the prizes aren’t really up to much – I prefer to win hard cash! A lot of the arcades today also have a section for over eighteen’s only where the machines are more expensive to play and pay out higher amounts too. There are also signs around the ones at the seaside saying that, if it’s a school day, unaccompanied children aren’t allowed in. I don’t know how well they bother to monitor this though! All in all I love slot machines and play them a lot when I go on holiday. It’s a thing I never, ever do at home, as I know that, if I started I would be popping into the arcade all the time, and the only real winner is the owner of the machine every time! So, for me, this is a great bit of holiday fun, but it can never be anything more than that – I can’t afford it!

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                      25.05.2001 21:22
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                      There is only one winner when it comes to the fruit machines and that is the person with the key to it. I know it but still cannot resist a flutter once in a while. It’s the flashing lights and the music that lures me. I rummage through my purse for a few pound coins, and the pleasure I get if I win a couple of quid straight off is something else but of course that does not happen very often. I never walk away when I have made a small profit. I keep pushing another pound coin in the slot just in case those bells hold or I get another number to go onto the feature run. Why do I waste my money? I never walk away with a pile of cash, any win is always put straight back in. It is simple; I find a few bob on a fruit machine very relaxing. I can forget about work and family problems for a short while and just concentrate on the reels and all the hidden features. So what if I don’t come away with a win, I can have half an hour’s pleasure for a few quid once in a while. How many pints of beer can you buy for that? Not many, and a packet of cigarettes cost just about the same. I think I prefer a fruit machine as a vice to the drinking and smoking habits. I must say one thing though before I end. Fruit machines can be addictive, so much so that I have seen people ploughing pounds into them. The next press of the button might just be the one to drop the jackpot. A pretty desperate situation to get into and this is when fruit machines can cause problems. I would never play if I could not afford to loose the money, it is after all a gamble but used for pleasure once in a while can be great fun.

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                        Ok, so gambling machines are bad, gambling machines are addictive and they are a waste of money, indeed, they are built to make the owners money... That aside, lets face it, if you want to play, you're gonna play. So you might as well know how to play them with style. After six years of blissful addiction, there's pretty much nothing I can't tell you about gambling machines, so lets start with the basics: For starters, the best bet for making any money is to be sure that someone else has lost on it first. Watch other people play, and even on a machine you don't know, you can get an idea of both how to play and how it is playing. If, however, you're too eager to be playing, then listen to the money when you drop it in. If the machine is 'backing', you will hear the money drop a long way into the cashbox. This indicates that the payout tubes are full and usually happy to pay a bit out. When it comes to playing, ok, you might get lucky and get a win, but if you're serious, you're looking at five or ten pounds minimum to see the beginnings of a good return 3 HOLDS While this feature isn't appearing as much as it used on some machines, it's still worth giving it a try. If you have two feature symbols or two matching fruits on the winline, hold them and spin the third reel. If the machine gives you the holds to repeat this twice, then on the third spin the prize should come in (Barcrest and Maygay machines still all seem to have this feature, while it is more rare on makes like Bell Fruit and BWB). HOLDS AFTER NUDGES Sometimes after nudges, if you have nudged in two of the same symbols onto the winline, you will be offered holds, if this happens, then spin all 3 reels,don't hold them, and the feature or win should come in! Most machines will sound a siren or give you a soundbite to tell you that you should. HIDDEN HOLDS On some machines you can sometim es hold symbols, even wins, even if the lights are not flashing, so if there is anything worth holding, give it a try, doesn't happen often, but it's worth a go. CANCEL BUTTON Will sometimes flash on anything from taxi to the bonus, hold it down and it'll slow things down so you can stop it on what you want. BONUS On many machines, the bonus is offered on the number four. Very often it will give you something like a boost which will give you a couple of extra numbers, or stopper where it will happily flash all the way around the number line only to land woefully short of the feature. The bonus still remains probably the best way to get on the feature, though, so if you get a 2 or two 1's then hold all the reels to be sure to land on it. Look out for features like selector or skill stop, these will usually put you on a win, and can often be slowed down by holding the cancel button. On some machines you will get a bonus like respin or reel stepper. Very often, you can hold reels that you want to keep so that they don't spin away, but you might have to be quick, so be ready. COLOUR CHANGES If you get on the feature and the logo start flashing more than usual or turing a different colour (usually red), then you've probably hit on invincible mode.... just keep on pressing go and you'll go right to the jackpot! Well, without going into too much detail on particular machines, they're pretty much the basics that'll hold with most machines. Just remember to keep an eye on the machine, if it makes any noises that it usually doesn't, or flashes where it usually wouldn't bother, it's probably trying to tell you something, so keep an eye out! And remeber, don't always go for the big wins, a few smaller wins are often the same as one big one, and the longer you spend on the feature, the more chance you have of the machine killing you off. Don't alwa ys go for the big one.... even if you win two quid, at least it's another pint!

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                          02.05.2001 22:57
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                          I was playing this for sometime one Sunday and found a couple of features; When starting the main feature, if Moe shouts "Hey, what are you guys doing over there?" then this is a definite super jackpot repeater. By continually rolling the dice, you will hit every +Bart square and count his trail all the way to the top. The only non-Bart square you can hit is the skateboard, which is a kind of skill-stop. This can be slowed down by holding cancel. - You can also see this if the Simpsons Logo is Red, it's normally yellow. The machine supports the barcode function, that is to say Reel 1 Reel 2 Reel 3 Triple Bar (Red) Double Bar (Blue) Single Bar (Yellow) Gives a hidden feature which is dependant upon the order in which you press the hold buttons. I only got this feature once, and I cannot remember the order in which I hit the buttons, but I got a follow me for 5 bonus game. (You have to press the Bart, Lisa and Marge buttons in the sequence that the game does or press the hold buttons. The centre reel has a MOE'S TAVERN symbol. Iit functions in the same way as the ESCAPE COMMITTEE. I.E. press the three hold buttons in a specific order to activate a feature. Mr Burns When playing the feature game, the Mr. Burns icon is the equivalent of a ? icon in most games. Fired - GAME OVER! Doh - One or more trails are reset to zero. Payday = A random number of icons are added to various trails and to the Itchy & Scratchy board. Hi/Lo Gamble - Get it correct on a 1-12 reel and you get to carry on else, GAME OVER! A word of warning, I only managed to win the Hi/Lo Gamble once out of about fifty times. Even though the machine was desperate to give money away when I arrived at it, (rolling in features of it's own accord three times out of five plays, rolling in reel wins etc...) the Hi/Lo gamble will give you a twelve if you go lower on eleven and a one if you go higher on a two! I only managed to win because I had a twelve on the reel! If you land on th skateboard you can use cancel to slow you down. If you land on the '?' mark for a nice bonus (only when on the skateboard), the only exception to this is if you have an extra life, as you might lose it. And Finally As for the Lisa Trail, I only ever took one feature and I can't remember the name of it! I stopped on a number of shots (1-8 I think), and then progressed along the Bart Trail trying to stop each one in turn whilst it was lit. I got four shots, and managed to get round to 3. There is a feature on the game, (under Mr Burns? I'm not certain), that gives you a 'skill' stop on the Bart Trail. Although the jackpot stays lit for ages, even pressing it then, it still dropped to 5 before registering my button press (no surprise there though I suppose.) Anyway, that's about all I can remember for now. I'll update with anymore as I learn it.

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                            28.02.2001 01:25
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                            The amount of money people waste on fruit machines is quite a lot. You have a couple of drinks and the change from a five pound note goes on the machine, it only takes a few minutes for the money to run out. And another five pound note to be changed. You can hear some change falling out, oh hooray he’s won something. It seems a lot but it’s a handful of 2p pieces, not the amount he’s spend. He comes back has a couple of drinks, and on the way to the gents has another go. No more luck so he shrugs his head and carries on going. That’s my husband and the Fruit machines. He loves them but never wins, and I am not surprised, it’s a con after a few drinks, the bright lights on the machine to make you think you will win, but very few who do and if you do realise how it’s always pennies. Notice it’s always the men, on the Fruit machines with the odd exception of course, they have to beat the machine and need their partners to call them back. The amount of money people must make out of Fruit machines, I sent my husband to the local chippy and he spent quite a lot of time. So, I presumed it was because the chips weren’t done. However, when I went to down, I noticed a Fruit machine right bang in the middle, and surprise, surprise while you were waiting which was longer than usual you would feel tempted to play the Fruit machines. I do myself like the 2p machines in theme parks where the pennies look like dropping out but guess what never do. The amount of 2p’s you can spend, it’s can add up. The Fruit machines are addictive, I certainly think my husband likes them but I don’t think he’s an addict, they’re like playing computer games but you have to pay and your game is very short. I am sure Fruit machines are fixed, because I have never heard of anyone winning the jackpot, light change yes but the big one…..No. Does anyone really think if you won you would get all your money they’re and then.. Like one million in change dropping out. I would like mine in cheque form so it’s easier to take to the bank (lol)

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                              10.11.2000 01:14

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                              I quite enjoy putting a couple of pounds in a fruit machine, it's not an addictive past time, but it's just a little gamble where you might or might not win. Yes some people play them to excess and it can be annoying when your partner says they're off to the loo and three quarters of an hour later you go looking for them and they're on the fruit machine. I prefer the reel machines to the pub quiz ones but wish the prices would stay down, I think at 30p a game now it's getting a bit excessive.

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                              13.10.2000 05:09
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                              Its odd how addictive a fruit machine can be, for me its not just the flashing lights or the lure of the money, nope Im just sad, I LOVE the design of them, but thats another story. Actually I have played fruit machines for many years, and usually broke even/slight loss. But thats just me, or is it just me not admitting to myself exactly how much money those machines took from me? One thing I can answer, and to some people this is about as significant as Is Elvis still alive? Do UFO's exist? Well - here it comes... Fruit machines sometimes are rigged. (cant speak for all of them) After all, a fruit machine is only a computer (usually nothing more complex than a home games console, if that!) linked to some stepper motors, lights and solenoids. More importantly they are programmed BY HUMANS, theres NOTHING really random about them,. they follow rules. Skill is another aspect, you dont need skill, people may say you do, but thats all down to the programmers etc who design that "need" into the game, they are playing on the fact kids and young adults like to show off. By all means have fun, but remember, in general, you will lose out. AND DONT LISTEN TO PEOPLE WHO TRY TO SELL YOU THE SOLUTIONS TO WINNING - Even if the solution IS correct (it may be) IT WILL NOT LAST, THEY WILL ALTER THE MACHINE OR CHANGE IT... (ps Fruit machines will never (in general) make you rich, unless you MAKE or Design them.)

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                                07.10.2000 19:33
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                                Fruit machines are such a tease. They lure you with their bright lights and music...jackpot £30 says the flashing banner. Ooh, how can I resist? Yes,it could be me, more likely than the lottery I tell myself, as I put a second pound coin in. I rummage in my bag and eventually extract a few twenty pences from the bottom. Oh no, I've got 20p left in the machine but its 25p a go, so I rummage for a 5p and can't find one. I put 10p in and then have to find another 20p to use my credits up.... So it goes on, I have to perform progressively harder mathematical tasks, drink my brandy and coke, eat my crisps and play the machine. 'Do you smoke,' asks someone. 'No, but I might if I could find a hand to do it with.' I lose £10 and a whole lot of other loose change I decide to ignore, and go back to the table. Someone has pinched my seat! And will I do it again? Probably, the next time that tease of a machine winks its lights at me!

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