Just a few short hours after I submit a review lamenting the appearance of new reviews on Dooyoo since the, cough, site upgrade, I notice that Dooyoo have managed to reformat some older reviews and paragraphs at last have been reinstated. Finally, a small step in the right direction although I fear that this will be nowhere near enough to stem the flow from the mass exodus of Dooyoo members leaving the site behind.
Few people have the patience to sit through several months of a site that has at best been inconsistent and faulty, at worst totally inaccessible.
Sadly the site has already seen the loss of huge numbers of established writers, people who no longer want their name to be associated with a site so badly mismanaged. The communication between Dooyoo staff and its members has truly been appalling. The failure to inform the members of any upcoming changes was a sign of the contempt with which the site actually views its members. This has been made far worse by the head in the sand approach to the numerous issues and failings within the new site and the truly condescending attitude towards valid member complaints and concerns.
Hopefully steps are at long last being taken to resolve some of the issues that make the difference between the site actually fulfilling its basic purpose and enabling the few surviving posters to actually successfully submit reviews. Unfortunately, the new redesign appears to have sabotaged the community spirit between members with no facility to send or receive messages between members. With the erratic commenting issues, this is more important than ever and would be a feature that would be welcomed by the survivors.
I would also be grateful if the current site map arrangements could also be reviewed. We have gone from having a list of all the levels and categories on a single page down to having to click on about twenty different links to access information about the levels of miles payable. Was this move deliberate to disguise the demise of level one products or the ominous inclusion of No Miles topics that were listed for several weeks?
I have compiled a list here of current level one categories for easy reference
Level One (60 miles): Amplifier, Car Audio, Car Speaker, Headphones, Hifi system, Microphone, Receiver, Speaker, Portable Radio, Turntable, Blu Ray Player, Home Cinema system, LCD TV, Plasma TV, Projector, Set Top Box, Caudalie, La Mer, Darphin, Lierac, Desktop PC, Laptop, All in One Printer, Injet Printer, LCD Monitor, LED Printer, Laser Printer, PC Speaker, Laptop Case, Fireplaces, Cordless Screwdriver Drill, Planer, Power Drill, Power Saw, Pushchair, Tyres, Car Seat, Sat Nav, Digital Camera, Camcorder, Digital Photo Frame, Camera Lens, Microscope, Fax Machine, Telephone, Watch.
Needless to say the list for level three items is considerably longer and would exceed the new word count!
Having been a Dooyoo member for 3 years now and having written over 500 reviews I thought I would share my frustrations about the site. Although my frustrations are nothing serious I think it is nice to have this chance to share my little gripes especially if it is things that are also shared by fellow users too. So here they are:
1. Rating - One of my biggest frustrations is that there is no marker to show which reviews you have already read/rated, this means that I will often find myself reading some reviews twice before I reach the bottom and already see one of the rated boxes coloured Orange.
2. Suggestions - Although there is a huge amount of items to review on Dooyoo there are times when I will come across something that is not listed and go to the suggestions section but find that the category it falls into is not open. This is especially the case for food items which seems to be the category which has the least amount of open suggestion time.
3. Rewards - As much as I totally love receiving rewards in the form of Amazon vouchers or cash from Dooyoo for reviews that I really enjoy writing I think it would be nice for the cash option to have a lower redeemable amount. I write very frequently but still find that it can take quite a long time to build my miles up to 50,000 in order to redeem for £50 cash so it would be nice to see this amount lowered even if just a little.
4. Category Levels - This is only something that I have noticed recently but there seems to be hardly any products in levels 1 and 2 at the moment and not as much changing around as there used to be too allow people who prefer to write on certain subjects the chance to earn a few more miles from time to time. I personally like to write food reviews but find it very rare indeed for food to move out of level 3.
Although my frustrations are fairly basic and there are not many of them I am a person who goes by the theory that 'if you don't ask you don't get' so feel that if I say nothing then I can never moan if the things I have highlighted never change.
I love being a part of the Dooyoo community and am extremely grateful to be able to receive cash rewards for doing something in my spare time which I enjoy. I hope to be a member of Dooyoo for the foreseeable future and am always praising the site to my friends and family but as with anything in life there is always room for a little constructive criticism.
I do not have any major issues with Dooyoo - just a few little niggles really.
I find this quite irritating - the way certain categories can takes months to come round so that you can suggest additions.
I know there is a five a week limit on suggestions, which, although slightly limiting, sometimes is perfectly adequate.
The thing I do find irritating is that you will have something that you would like to review and its all fresh in your mind and you have lots to say - only to find that the category does not come around for months.
I know I can, and sometimes do, write my review up anyway and then just file it away until the appropriate time - but it sees a bit of a fruitless exercise sometimes to be writing a lot just to have to leave them for possibly a few months.
I do not see why they cannot just have five suggestions a week for ANY product - unless there is some reason I am unacquainted with.
Some categories never seem to appear much these days - such as food or books.
The technical stuff seems to often be there but I don't really fancy reviewing my freezer!
Also looking in the Dooyoo Lounge for the Christmas categories - I think I have written in almost all of them last year - so now will have to wait for something new to appear - and I do so love Christmas!
I quite often end up not leaving comments as if I do it after reading the review and before rating - I always feel that you are then 'new' to the page and if I click a rating then it will look as if I have just done speed rating. Not sure if this does apply but it does make me a bit cautious.
Also, like others, I do not see it is necessary to leave pointed criticisms regarding spelling or grammar. Much better to send the person a personal message.
Personally I am always happy to receive a polite query on any review - as we can all make mistakes and a slight spelling mistake can make something sound rather odd.
I may have been lucky but I have not had a lot of bad comments left - I have seem some heated debate on certain reviews which is not really the place for it.
One other thing about regarding comments - sometimes you can make a quick comment - post it - and then see a spelling mistake - or have problems with your pc and then find you have posted the same comment three times! It would be good if we could delete a duplicate comment of our own or possibly edit them if there is a mistake.
As you can see these are only little gripes and I can generally keep going with reviews from what is listed in their catalogue already.
I love dooyoo in general. I love the fact that I can earn a few quid to buy my children treats, books and extra presents for birthdays and Christmases. In fact Our holidays would not be nearly so bright without dooyoo. I love that I can find out a lot about products before buying and avoid colossal mistakes. I enjoy yammering on and on about books and I like to think I help people find some good books and toys as well, and I've made some good friends on this site. But there is one thing I really do not like.
I hate fighting in general. Sometimes I feel as if I have spent half my life trying to keep the peace between different people - and you would not believe me if I were to mention all the ones I've tried to keep peace between. The thing is - I hate to see anyone hurt. People forget online that it is a real person on the other keyboard. They have feelings too. It might be a good debate to you - but you don't know what that person could be going through in real life and lets face it - the internet makes people brave. We can say all sorts of things we wouldn't dare say anywhere else.
The rotten thing is - quite often the people on both sides of an argument are good decent people. It is just a misunderstanding. But when you have to face the same person everyday or every week in real life - you usually make an effort to smooth over misunderstandings. On the internet it's all too easy to get all your friends and gang up on people. I once had a member threaten to get all her friends to join and "get" me. I had a good laugh - what were they going to do - wait for me after school and try to beat me up for my pocket money? I've laughed at far more serious threats. As to revenge rates - I love them. I still get paid. But not everyone finds these things so entertaining. I've seen far too many lovely people hurt on this site.
So once again I am asking members: Please - think before you type. In a rage? Type it up, save it and wait 24 hours before posting. Please think about the other member's feelings. If you have something to say - it might be better to send a polite private message but if it isn't well received - leave it alone. If you feel a member has really done something wrong please consider if it could be an honest mistake. Many people forget to credit a short quote etc... A polite reminder is usually all it takes. If you still feel they are violating the rules - contact dooyoo - and then leave it alone. Once you have reported an issue to dooyoo - it is their problem. But running feuds in the comments boxes looks so unprofessional and is apt to drive consumers away. Don't forget - dooyoo is a business.
We have all hurt someone's feelings here before. I have and I felt horrible when the lady in question told me. I am so glad she did so I could put things right. There is nothing wrong with saying "I'm sorry" even if you never intended for the person to be hurt. We all make mistakes. If someone has wounded you - tell them - but politely. But before you get too upset, please try to look at matters with an open mind. Is the comment really personal? Or is someone just offering constructive criticism? Before you fly off the handle, please remember - everyone has issues in life - for all you know the other person might be snappy because their Mother has just died, they've caught their partner in an affair, lost their job, or lost a baby. Maybe they are awaiting cancer test results and a bit snappy. Maybe their beloved pet is dying. In short - we don't know so let the small stuff slide. Also remember - you can't see a person's face here - it is hard to gauge what was meant by many comments. At the moment I'm afraid to joke much unless I know the person well as what I find amusing - others often do not. Be careful not to take offense where none was meant.
This site works so much better when people are nice to each other. But if you can not get along - stay away from each other. This isn't boycotting it is common sense. If I have two children on a youth group who can't avoid battering each other - I separate them. Some people just clash. If you simply can not see eye to eye - it is so much better to just leave each other alone. But ..... if you simply can not avoid fighting with too many people - you may soon find yourself Billy -no mates, alone on the playground. As I tell my boys - if you don't play nicely - you won't have anyone to play with.
All I am asking everyone is to give each other the benefit of any doubt. I know how cliché I sound, but treat others the way you would want to be treated. Expect the best of people - they might just surprise you. Yes I look at the world through rose coloured glasses - but trust me I have seen how ugly reality can be. I like my rose coloured haze very well thank you. But almost everyone has something I can like and respect, and I honestly do like every single member I know on this site. It hurts me to see others hurt here. I've been isolated a lot since becoming disabled and I value my dooyoo friendships. I hate to see my friends troubled. Please everyone - can we have a bury the hatchet day? Can we all forgive and forget and do our best to be kind to each other? For my part - if I have hurt or offended any member ( other than the ones from Nigeria who wish to marry me, become my civil partner or share a fortune with me) I apologise. I am sincerely sorry if I have caused sadness to any. The very few who have been out right rude to me have never lasted on the site - so no one here has ever given me reason for offence or been anything but kind to me. All I can ask is that you do the same for each other.
Please note: This should go without saying. Dooyoo is a public site and a registered business. As such any form of discrimination, I believe falls under equality laws. I do not believe Dooyoo would be at all tolerant of any of any form of prejudice and hate. Racist and homophobic comments most certainly do not belong here in any shape or form and this is one issue I will report to dooyoo in a flash. Dooyoo has many valued members of different races, religions, politics, nationalities and sexual preferences. None of these factors have any bearing at all on a persons ability to write a good review. If you have a problem with any of these groups - keep it to yourself.
Also - I am always happy to try to help anyone - I can give advice and in serious cases I can have a word with dooyoo. I will report obvious abuse or bullying if I come across it in the comments, and I have made a point to watch certain members profiles for comments when I have suspected they were being bullied. If you aren't sure how to take something - I'll have a look - often times I know and like both members and can easily see that no offense was meant.
I can not remove anyone from this site.
I will not take sides against any member - please remember who ever you are mad is likely someone I like as well. I have no enemies on this site and like everyone I know. Please don't ask me to engage in nasty gossip talk behind anyone's back or be cruel to anyone. I won't do it.
I can not lock reviews . I judge a persons review by the rate I give them. Unless I find out after rating that a review was copied - I will not change my rate or allow anyone else's opinion to influence how I rate. I do sometimes rate against the flow so to speak. I have my own criteria for rating. Other than that it is dooyoo's job to decide what reviews are good enough for the site. Please do not write and tell me someone's quality of writing is not good enough for the site. If dooyoo feels this to be the case they will lock the review.
If you feel someone has cheated - be sure you have proof - and then contact dooyoo. Give them the a link to the review and to the source that was copied. If it looks like it might be an honest mistake though - please just message the person nicely. I have often messaged a member saying they forgot to credit a source and they have always done so without the need to run to dooyoo. People can read something and accidentally write something to similar, and again, most people are more than happy to make a few changes if asked nicely. If you feel a person is clearly copying but can not prove it - just wait sooner or later all the cheats slip up and grow bolder as time goes on. If however you feel the review is to similar to published sources - contact dooyoo and leave it with them.
Too many items is more difficult. If the person has reviewed 10 new mobile phones ask politely if they own so many and why but do not make blanket accusations without being certain. I own far more books than most people. I also own far more book cases. Counting the shelving units used for other things like toys and dvd's I own 15. Many of the same make so I haven't flooded the site, but it is possible to own an unusual number of items. I know another member who has owned far more hoovers than most as he seems to collect them, his reviews speak for themselves in terms of genuine experience. A few have owned more guitars than they need - including my husband - 7 and counting. Some of the students post an exceptionally high number of drink reviews. I'd like to think they aren't drinking that much but knowing students they likely are. I've considered sending a few a link to AA but they mightn't take the joke right. It is not unusual for musicians to own a lot of instruments. Other members freely admit they don't buy that many perfumes - they send for free samples and review them. If in doubt a private message to dooyoo is far better than a public accusation. Dooyoo staff get paid to sort this let them deal with it.
To avoid wasting time on cut and paste reviews, most of us do simply write copied and give the source material in the comments box. This isn't to be mean, but so the next person can see that it has already been reported and avoid wasting time by looking up the source if another member has already done so. Likewise most members leave polite tips for new members in the comments. This is to save time rather than have a new member get 20 messages saying the same thing. Please keep comments polite and helpful - and if you wish to offer a more detailed critique please use private messaging.
I have been on this site over a year and already I have started to notice a few things that irritate me about this site and are constantly making me considering leaving. This topic is really directed a people to have a rant but I'm going to try and make it not sound to much like I am moaning because really if I think about it all of the below I choose to deal with and don't have to.
1. Spammers & Scammers
I have noticed that on this site there are alot of people that sign up and go around messaging people their email asking them to speak in private. I have seen these kind of things all over the web and all the want is you to email them and they start talking then ask you for money which is bang out of order. In the past couple of months I have been messaged at least 3 time by these random people. The thing that makes them look dodgy and make me not even respond is that they never post any reviews. These people defeat the whole object of the website and it really annoys me because people like that are only here to use people on the website which is not cool.
I think ciao could resolve this by not letting anyone send a message to anyone on dooyoo until they have posted at least one review. I think this would be good because if you are genuinely here to write helpful reviews it will be no problem if you can only start sending messages after you have posted at least one review. These people I consider Scammers because that is their only intention.
There are just too many people on here that have rated 0 reviews or next to none reviews but yet they have posted 10s of hundreds of reviews. I know no one is obligated to rate reviews but at the end of the day if no one rates no one will earn much and that will just drive people away.We are all here to spread our work and share opinions and if less and less people are reading/rating more people will give up. I always rate back but at the same time if someone has never rated me but they have rated a fair amount of reviews I will happily read their work and rate them. I never expect a return rate at all but I just like to see everyone acknowledging others work because alot of people on here write some quality reviews and deserve way more praise they are getting. Not saying any names but I will continue to rate and support all of you I feel deserve it. I don't think there is not much you can do about this to be honest so I don't really dwell on it.
3. Unfair treatment of newcomers.
I think some of the more established members need to give newcomers a break if they post not very informative reviews. Everyone on here started with not so good reviews but I think some have forgotten were they started and give some really offensive feedback to some newcomers. I see this every now and they and sometimes I feel to comment but don't want to cause problem. I don't think any of it is intentional but it's the wording of what people say can be offensive because you never know someones state of mind and what can hurt someones feelings.
To solve this I think that dooyoo should show example reviews in the sign up process of a good and a bad review or show newcomers what is the minimum that dooyoo are looking for. I don't think this would make a big difference but it certainly will show people what they need to do rather than explain.
4. 100 reviews a day
Now not literately 100 reviews a day but it sometimes feels like that. I have noticed that some people post sometimes two digit numbers amount of reviews a day which is really annoying because when I look at the newest reviews they just keep appearing. I think their should be a 5 a day limit on how many reviews each person can post. Anything more than that is really not necessary because I notice the more reviews people write a day the worse the quality gets as they keep writing. This is not in every case but most often is the case. I think frustration results back to the fact that there just are not enough people rating to earn what some people may want to earn. Because of the lack of rating people may result into posting more reviews to make up their earnings. I don't do this because I personally think that after writing a few reviews it gets tedious and on top of that people forget to rate older reviews for that day because they would have missed it.
The only way to solve this problem is to put a limit on daily reviews I'd say about 5 or 6 a day is fair enough and encourage rating so people won't feel like they have to result to writing a string of reviews.
5. I don't agree
I have saw on so many occasion were people have given a low rating on a perfectly good review then left a comment which more than always states reasons they don't agree with you. Everyone on this site has a mind of their own and has their own opinions so you should never judge a review on weather it matches you opinion or not. If you think one thing about a product but someone has written a review disagreeing but at the same time has valid proof and experience to back up their judgement of the product there is really no reason for you to be harsh and rate the product down because your opinion is not the only one out there.
They are all my frustrations really but apart from these things this site is really enjoyable for me and I wish the site would try to cut back on some of these things from happening. After reading some other frustration reviews I have noticed nearly everyone is saying similar things so I don't feel like I'm the only one who sees these things as problems.
I will only do my best at helping minimize peoples frustrations on the site that is why I have taken some time to read what problems others have and will do my best to help were I can but there really is only so much me on my own can do. Dooyoo is technically a team and everyone on here should be coming together really.
I have been a member at Dooyoo for a fairly long time and I have contributed openly and honestly about all of the products I have reviewed. I enjoy being here and I find it satisfying - and it's also nice to make a little bit of pocket money. However, I do absolutely HATE the superiority of certain members here, particularly the "guides" who, on the whole do not "guide" at all, but seem to sit around criticising and giving themselves crowns. I'm not talking about all guides.....some are very good.....but this select little possey who seem to believe that we're competing to win the Pulitzer! It's annoying and frustrating and I don't believe it creates an atmosphere which is nurturing, pleasant or evokes creativity in any of us. If a guide says "jump", its like we have to say "How high" or face having reviews blocked - and forget the possibility of earning a crown. In my experience, this is probably the main issue that does need addressing. And yes, it is SO frustrating!
I love Dooyoo. It's one of the best websites I've been in for a while. I find the website useful because I can improve my writing skills and at the same time I can share my thoughts on products that interest me or let people know to avoid products that suck. I feel that I can consider myself a proud Dooyoo Citizen. To be honest there isn't really anything that really angers me about this site.
So you might ask what the hell am I doing writing on the Dooyoo Frustrations page? Because I want my view across the major frustration of the site: ratings below Very Useful. But before I go into detail with that I want go through a couple of things that annoy me.
Product Suggestions haven't always been smooth. Twice, I've suggested a product and they put the wrong product up but that got sorted. Sometimes it feels like donkey years when the product is finally up on the site and you can write a review on it. I think Patience is the key to this one. If Dooyoo get it up quickly, you can praise them on their facebook page so it will prompt them to work harder and as fast as they can. While you wait for Dooyoo to have your product suggestion completed, you can write a draft of the review so it's fresh in your mind.
Some users only want to hear one rating which of course is Very Useful and anything below is "revenge rating" or from "an evil guide". What I don't understand is why do people get so wound up over useful rates? Since when did useful give you cancer? What's Daily Mail been saying now?
I believe that True users want honest ratings for their honest reviews. I somewhat cringe when someone moans about useful ratings. Cause seriously, you can't please everyone. People are scared of being revenge rated so they continue to rate very useful even if they disagree with the rating. In my opinion that's sort of ironic because we're not afraid of bashing or glorifying products but some of us are scared to rate what they really think because they want a perfect record of Very Usefuls. .
Then again it is an opinion site. A review might not be worth anything to one person, but will hold a lot of value to someone else. One man's trash is another man's pleasure. If a revenge rater rates you not useful, just pretend they where going to nominate you for a crown but clicked Not Useful by mistake. Wishful thinking can help the frustration go down.
If I thought I was being revenge rated, I wouldn't report it. Why? Simple. I can't be bothered. I ignore them cause I'm cool like that. I wouldn't want to get rid of a genuine rate by mistake. Revenge Raters are usually either cheaters of whom Dooyoo will get kicked out or the kind of people who discover that Dooyoo wasn't going to give them the fortune they where hoping for and leave. Revenge Rating can be off putting, but we still win. Just don't worry about revenge raters, if they really annoy you just report it to Dooyoo. I think all the "revenge raters will be reported" encourages it as some people love being a pain in the neck. I've found that ignoring revenge rates has stopped it from becoming an issue, but it's easier said than done. There's too much fuss about them: we still win.
I think there's some prejudice against newbies. Not everyone knows how to rate a newbie's review because there's no empathy. Regulars have grown to empathize with other regulars. A newbie might not understand that useful is a good rate. Not all of them are going to read the terms of service and the Dooyoo rules because they're really excited and just want to get down writing and earning money. They'll be fine once they've past the newbie stage but it can be scary for them. It's a shame when lots of newbies leave or never improve because of strong superstition.
Newbies are the future! Who's going to keep Dooyoo alive when we've all left the site? The newbies of the day of course. We gotta let them know that help is available. If they don't want the help and think their reviews are fine, then fine just rate them accordingly, they'll get the message hopefully.
By rating and writing honestly, we're going to be just fine.
- The Newbie Stigma
Okay, so we all know there are a few 'dodgy' reviews on Dooyoo. By dodgy, I mean reviews (mainly of electrical goods) posted by a newbie that is say, 150 words long and has quite obviously been copied. Because of this, I do find that alot of people don't rate newbies, or if they do, it's almost always a low rate. Having looked back on my earlier reviews, I was quite suprised to see that almost all of them are rated somewhat useful or useful. Most of these contain 400 words plus and contain all of the information required to a consumer. So why were they rated less than useful? Simple. Because I was new to Dooyoo. Okay, alot of people are going to be disagreeing with me, but that's my opinion. I personally don't hesistate to rate a newbie, although I do check first on there stat's that they rate back. If a review is copied, or plain awful, I don't rate. Chances are the review will be deleted by Dooyoo within a day or two so there's not alot of point really. Alot of newbies are actually extremely good at writing reviews and there are a few authors on here who's reviews I love reading, and they've only been on the site for less than a month.
I sometimes see a review of say, a laptop, and rate it accordingly. Then, around a week later, the person who wrote the laptop review will post ANOTHER laptop review.. then possibly yet another a few days later. Same with kettles, dishwashes, etc. These are not items that people own alot of, however they are in the level 1 catergory of Dooyoo which means they recieve the most amount of money upon writing a review, so people seem to write as much in those catergories as possible and therefor a small minority do claim to own things that they don't. I've seen more than one person doing this and it really annoys me. This is pretty much the same as the next thing that I find annoying. Sometimes see reviews that are written by someone who quite obviously does not own the item. You might wonder how I can tell. It's simple. In a review where the author does not actually own it, you will find that the review is essentially a bulked out product description. No or little personal opinion, spaced out to make it look longer etc. Ofcourse some authors do prefer to keep the review short and choppy, but even then you will find there is much more opinion and detail than with someone who doesn't own it.
The bullies are the ones who leave nasty or patronising comments on a persons review, mostly the comments are sarcastic or plain nasty about the quality of the review, or focus on one particular part of the review. Alot of comments are also about spelling or grammar (on one occasion I was told by someone that there four year old could spell better than me!) Fair enough, the person is quite possibly offering a helping hand and making the author aware of there error, but there is a message option to contact the author privately so chances are it's more of a dig then anything, and also i've noticed if there is a negative comment on a review people are more likely to rate it less than useful. I also find that a few members seem to rate reviews down for the slightest thing, and some even make excuses as to why a review is not useful. I wrote a review recently (won't say which as I don't want to cause drama!) which amounted to over 3,000 words. I was told it was too long (by Dooyoo members, not Dooyoo themselves) and I was told I had bulked out and that it contained no personal opinion (which is definetly wasn't!). Therefor, it recieved several somewhat useful ratings - I even emailed one person to ask why they had rated the review badly and was told that my review was 'bobbins' (sh!t) - needless to say I was very upset and disheartened. People can skim through a review, and if people are searching through reviews on Dooyoo they could quite blatently see the word count so could choose to read one shorter. Yes, people are entitled to there opinions, but I do feel sometimes people are harsh, especially when rating a review badly when it is very obvious that the author has gone to a huge amount of effort and spent a while on the review to get it just right.
Also, people who don't rate back annoy me. No, I don't mean the people who take a week or so to rate back, but the people who literally NEVER rate anyones reviews. Before rating a review I always check the members stats. Another thing is people who email you on dooyoo saying 'I'll rate 10 of your reviews if you rate 10 of mine'. Dooyoo isn't about that, and I certianly won't be rating your reviews if you are doing stuff like that. Rant over. I am sure I will get lots of negative rates from people who feel I am targetting them, but this is a general review of Dooyoo and in no way is it aimed at anyone. Overall Dooyoo is an amazing site, but a small minority do make it less enjoyable..
Well I've had my account for quite a while now, but never really got into the swing of it writing, and stuff, so never really bothered with it up until now. Recently I've found myself with some time on my hands, and after reading some really interesting reviews that others had written, I thought that perhaps it was about time that I put fingers to keyboard and write a few myself.
So I organised a list of all the items that I'd bought over the past 2 years, and started writing a few bits and pieces out about them and how I felt about them. I knew that you had to write a minimum of 150 for a review and as I'm only just getting into it I stupidly thought that practising with a few articles of just over the 150, mixed with a few longer reviews of items would help me gauge what I was capable of achieving.
Now I've had some really nice constructive critisms from guides, and other members about things that I might like to add to my reviews to make them better and more interesting, but I did not expect to receive some nasty reviews from those who are deemed to guide us into making us better reviewers.
I do not expect to be threatened with my articles being locked just because this one guide decides that it's not what he wants to read. Constructive critism would be much better rather than just than a "you're s**t so go away and do better then come back to me" attitude. That totally stinks from someone who you're supposed to look up to.
I do not expect that as a new reviewer. I didn't come onto DooYoo just to get money as quick as possible, I came onto DooYoo to put my opinions out there with the items that I've bought. I've posted quite a few in one day yeah, but it's because I'm enthusiastic, have the time and I'm in the mood to do it. I'm certainly not a "churner" - I "WAS" just excited at being part of a community and putting my personal views out there, but knowing that there are guides out there that just want to bully new reviewers then I'm not so sure I want to be part of it.
I do hope that I encounter some nicer members over the coming weeks, and that the bullies and those who think they are the DooYoo literature police are few and far between, but for now I won't be recommending DooYoo to others if being bullied is the norm here.
This is a bit of a controversial rant.
As you know, I'm a new member and I think I'm ready for my rant now. So, here goes.
The issue of revenge rating.
I have never revenge rated anyone, I do think it is childish and the person must seriously have some psychological issues to do this on a review site!
However, people who report revenge rating are twice as pathetic!.
A few times I have been given a SU (who cares, I'm here for the money!), and I have went into the other person's profile to rate their review (as it is polite) to find their review is a load of pants!! So, do I rate honestly? Of course not. No matter how much tripe their review contains (description of the guy in the box, how their mums razor broke, little personal opinion), I still can't rate their review SU or U. Why? Because I am "revenge rating" if I am. So Dooyoo just assume that the person who gave you a SU rating has perfect reviews?
When a person rates your review SU, they are showing that they believe in analysing your review to determine the true usefulness, so why shouldn't you do the same because clearly that's the way they like to rate and review, isn't it? Not that it bothers me or has affected me, but you always go on to the profile of someone who rates very fussy, and you see a paragraph in their profile about how revenge rating will be reported. HUH?? Don't be so damn fussy if you don't want people to be fussy with you.
If your reviews are perfect and you are confident that someone can't rate your review lower than VU, then be my guest. But just because your review contains 1000 words of the box's description and lists on ingredients doesn't mean that you can rate someone's review strictly then not expect someone to do the same to you. Because you may just find that your review isn't as perfect as you assumed, so don't go crying to the guides when you give someone a bit of stick then you find that they give you a bit of stick back. This isn't revenge, this is called playing fair!
Reporting revenge rating shows you have taken the exact same reaction to criticism as the perpetrator has. What did you do to solve it? Given payback (reported them) ! If you want to be able to rate a person's review honestly, then you have to allow other people to rate yours honestly. Don't give criticism if you can't take it, and don't assume your reviews are perfect!
Sometimes I have written reviews, and yes, I have been lazy with them. Therefore, I recieved some well deserved SU ratings. However, I have some reviews where I feel I have done a good job of it. Someone rated me SU because I added extra info about a documentry on the product... but when that info was removed, I had 900 words of useful consumer opinon.
I had a situation when someone rated my review 'Not Useful' because he disagreed with people using this product (plug covers). I looked at his review to find that he had listed the research his company done on the product but he hadn't actually used the product which in fact meant he had breeched the Dooyoo rules. However, If I had rated his review 'Not Useful' because he didn't use the product, it would be ME who get removed?
People should not be allowed to report people for Revenge Rating! ....
**People who complain about rates back**
I always rate back as much as possible. However, I do have kids to look after, Uni to go to and studying to do. When I first started, I had given 100 ratings but only had received 20. However, as time got on I got busier and now I'm about 100 or 200 behind. I do get round to everyone, it's just by the time I have 'caught up' with all the ratings, more people have rated me, and it's back to square 1 !! Listen guys, you are not forced to go and rate someone's review. However, talking about getting members banned for having less given rates than received rates is ridiculous! If I rate someone's work, and they don't tend to rate me back, I won't rate them again, simple. If a member doesn't rate back into the community then they will soon learn that they are not making as much money as they could be rating and people won't rate them. There's no need to ban the kids, or get them shot down. Just chillax, people and don't rate them again, they will get what they deserve. I really do think some Dooyoo members get more worked up about this than they have to. If people don't want to make as much money as everyone else, let them get on with it and learn... chill!
**Complaints about 'churners**
Would I ever write a review that is about 200 words? No. Would I ever rate a review that is 200 words VU? Of course not, unless it was a great review. Would I rant about getting the word limit changed or getting 'churners' banned? No, mann!
Some people write reviews about 2000 words. That's great, good for you, I hope you get crowns and guide badges and whatever you get for writing how to open a can of soup and all the ingredients in it. However, that is your choice to write reviews of that length and you do it voluntarily. In the long run you will get all those benefits, which will earn you more money, people will rate all your reviews more, which will make you more money weyhey!
So your rolling in Dooyoo miles, but what about *@j0nny1* who writes 200 word reviews and gets the same 60p that you get? Well, that's his choice. Dooyoo make money out of this as well, and they set a word limit that they think (as a professional, money-making, business site) will be beneficial to them. If you they make money out of 200 word reviews, then it obviously must be what Dooyoo thinks is a good review. Dooyoo, like any other company won't throw away their cash over their heads like confetti, so maybe you need to reconsider who's review is too short.. Or perhaps who's review is too long.? I'm just saying, you will make more money out of 1000 words of the description of the computer's cable, so if you want to do that fair enough. If you want to write scabby 200 word reviews, then you won't get rated and you earn just a little bit less. So, it just goes to show you that *@j0nny1* has simply cracked that you don't need to do all that hard work that everyone else does. Why diss the guy? He is just here trying to make money like you, so rate him how you feel, or don't rate him at all. But above all, stop complaining about him. He's not breaking any rules and he'll get what's coming to him.
And if Dooyoo doesn't think 151 word reviews are long enough, then they shouldn't set the review limit higher.
This takes me on my next point.
**Tinned plums (Very useful, 3075 words). Huuhhh?**
You say that you can't write 200 words of useful consumer opinion? Well I believe you can't write 1000+ words of useful consumer opinion. The next time you read a review, open it up and take out the 'packing' paragraph, and take out all the information which doesn't reflect how the author feels about the product. You are left with about 200 words, no joke! I have many 1000+ word reviews, and even I know what bits are uncessary.
Saying 'the wire is long and it comes with a Velcro strap to tie it'. Useful consumer opinion, no!
Let's try again
"the wire is long which is a benefit as it allows you to work away from your station, without having to sit uncomfortably with it in a place you don't want to be sitting. Another useful feature is that it comes with a Velcro strap which makes it easier to pack if you want to take on holiday, or to put it away in case an elderly member or a child trips on it'.
See, I don't even know what I was reviewing there, but when you write a review, you are trying to either convince the potential consumer to buy it or not to buy it. Saying 'the exterior of the box has a picture of the product'. Why is this useful? Why isn't it useful? Is it misleading making you think that product is better than it is? Does it look nice so that you can give it as a present without wrapping it?
You see, so many people write long reviews of description when they are missing chunks of personal opinion. I KNOW I DO IT! So don't bite my head off. However, If I rate someone's review SU, then I can't expect them to rate mine's VU or even U when I don't have a perfect review and I may only have 50 words of consumer opinion in there!. So I can't run away crying when they do.
Dooyoo is a great site, and you may notice all my complains are about other people's complaints. You are making money from Dooyoo, you are doing something you enjoy. So unless something is seriously unjust or unfair to you, calm down?
I have been on DooYoo for about a month now. And I have been doing a lot of writing and learning. In the beginning, some of my reviews weren't that great but only 1 was locked. Recently I had another review locked, without any explanation from DooYoo (I thought it was a pretty descent review, and so did my raters). About 2,5 weeks ago I cashed my first 20.000 Miles and after 12 days I still didn't get my Amazon voucher so I emailed DooYoo. No response.... I tried it again two days later... still no response. Last week I cashed in my next 20.000 miles. Got a confirmation email and well of course, I have to way 10 days for it to be send to me. Fine with me. But that 1st voucher, still hasn't been send to me. So I wrote another mail yesterday. And I was unpleasantly surprised that DooYoo told me my reviews weren't good enough and too standard. I now need the update the reviews that to their opinion, aren't good enough. But I don't know which ones they mean!!!
So after 1 month and earning about 60.000 miles, still nothing and a slow reaction on my emails... I hope I do get some clear answers, I don't think it is a polite way to deal with your writers, just not giving them the vouchers and not even emailing them about why you don't get it (yet!!)
Hope you guys have some advice....
Anyone has the same experience recently?
A couple of days ago I came across a member's review that was talking about the frustration she felt on dooyoo website. I have had the similar feeling for long time, I thought I would write my opinions here too.
First I would like to say I like Dooyoo. I have joined a few freelancers' websites, but Dooyoo is my most favourite one. Comparing other sites I feel at home on dooyoo. However I do have some frustration and it's getting stronger day by day. There are three things that have annoyed me.
Most dooyooers are very active and friendly to other members. They have rated more than they have received. In opposite there is a big group of non-raters too, who just return a little or totally don't return. What they are doing is to post a few reviews daily and take a chance to receive others' rating.
I understand the rule of dooyoo, members do have no duty to return, but I don't think it's fair and proper to behave like that. Now before I rate unfamiliar members I would check their statistics and I would not rate non-raters anymore. If I can I would suggest dooyoo have an incentive management to reward raters too. It would encourage members to rate others reviews and make the community more active.
Recently I have found some of my ratings disappeared. One of the reasons is some members rate too fast and are caught by dooyoo system. I understand dooyoo attitude towards speed ratings, but the punishment should not be taken by other members who haven't broken the rules. Dooyoo should have the ability to stop speed ratings earlier. I suppose it is probably a reason that some members don't like rating others because you don't know if other members obey dooyoo rules or not. It's not good to build up trust between members either.
I just started to suggest products recently. However I found it seems take ages to get your suggestion approved. I have one suggestion on April, after 40 days it's still on progress. Same works on ciao and other sites just need a few hours.
All in all these three issues made me feel frustrated a bit. However I still like dooyoo from which I started my writing in English. I have made some good friends and improved my English skill. I would like to see dooyoo develop better and have more active members with qualified reviews.
update: New Dooyoo mile system:
I have not heard other members' opinion, but I feel upset to be honest. I think the direct result is to decrease the income of most members. Also the third level in the new system is less acceptable.
Ok so I have been on dooyoo for just over 4 months now. I have so far managed to buy a washing machine and a few bits and pieces with the money I have made which is great as we couldn't have afford these things otherwise. Now as much as I love this site, I have some frustrations with it! This is my opinion only and I welcome any comments!
I know there isn't a rule that you have to return rates and if some people wish to churn review after review out for the 50p then fair enough. I personally do not rate these reviews anymore as I do not think that is playing fair. We should be helping each other out! It builds community spirit and we all benefit in the long run.
This is something I have spotted a lot recently. If you have a personal issue with something that someone has said in their review, I think it is so rude to splat sarcastic nastiness on that persons comments section. This is a permanent comment for everyone to see. I see it as being bullying and it can really cause issues.
I have personally experienced comments through my messages simply for questioning a rating and received nothing but nastiness from this member. It isn't fair and can put people off using the site.
When writing our reviews, we are expected to give our opinion on the product. I have recently noticed a member rating down a review simply because they didn't like the taste of the product! You should rate a review based on the information given and not whether or not you like the actual product.
I personally do not have any issue with anyone posting 3, 5 or 10 reviews a day aslong as they are of a good quality and not rubbish! I have personally wrote 5 reviews some days but I return every single rate and I do feel my reviews are good. The frustration I have with this is people saying "oh you are only supposed to do one review a day or you won't get anywhere" and the likes. It is up to that individual person to decide how many reviews they do so back off!
Many reviews I have read recently have been absolute nonsense and have not actual touched on the thing they are supposed to be on! Looking at the ratings, we see lots of Very Useful. Why? We should be rating honestly and clearly people aren't. Very Useful and Useful in my eyes are good ratings.
It is not big and its not smart. In the end revenge raters will get kicked off. If you want to write 151 words of rubbish and not accept a somewhat useful but come back and rate a 600 word great review as somewhat then don't bother as it is easily noticed!
When I go through the new reviews, seeing the new member badge doesn't put me off and I have seen some great work from newbies. I sometimes go into reviews that have been written the day before and no one even read them. I feel this is unfair and gives newbies no confidence to engage in site activity.
So there we have.. I know some people won't agree with my frustration but this is my opinion!
Thanks for reading :)
When I first started with dooyoo, nearly 18 months before I was amazed I had not heard of the site before. It was only by reading on it on moneysavingexpert.com, that I heard how people were rating products and getting paid for it. As they say 'the rest is history!'
So what frustrates me about Dooyoo?
(i)Selfishness: We are part of a community and I am getting sick and tired of people writing reviews, and just not bothering to rate others. I can think of a few well established members who have rated only a fraction of the rates they have received. I don't think this is fair. I spend hours (literally) a day, reading and rating others reviews. Learning all the time how to improve mine. I won't even look at these reviews now.
I looked at one established members reviews today, and he/she had only received 1 rating on a review they did a few weeks back. Others have been rated 2 or 3 times. Wake up and smell the coffee, obviously I'm not the only one who refuses to read your reviews anymore. Okay I accept newbies. Maybe they don't understand the concept.After time many will realise or be shown the light in some way!!
(ii) Reviews that have 1000 words and one paragraph. I get eye strain enough spending hours on the pc, without having to try and read my way through lines and lines on an article, with no paragraphs. These are a big turn off for me.
(iii) Certain really long reviews. I'm not referring to all really long reviews. In fact some are really interesting to read. These include holidays, learning about others on dooyoo etc But reading 1500 words on your toaster really isn't something I want to do. Does it work? How much was it? Does it cook toast without burning it? That's enough guys.
(iv) Really short reviews. The new ones I understand are still learning, and I'm sure the guides will point them out in the right direction. But those who have been on here for a while, should be giving at least a few hundred words.
(v) The last one isn't really frustration or even a criticism, it is a suggestion. Why don't dooyoo pay direct into your bank? Cheques are a bit of a thing of the past. Payments would be cheaper for them, and dooyooers would get paid faster. Just a suggestion. Oh and while you are at it, the option of posting images would be cool too.
In summing up. This is a great site. A bit frustrating at times, usually down to the dooyooers rather than dooyoo. See you all around!!
After a year of being here, there are now some things which really bug me and all of them are not actually Dooyoo's fault. It is all in the members.
My main problem is people returning rates. It doesn't seem like a lot of members, especially new ones, return rates. I try my hardest to rate everyone back, even if it does take me a while and considering I have two jobs and college, I think I am doing an ok job of it. Sometimes I do get behind but I catch up eventually and I think that is what matters. I have rated about 4000 more reviews than people have rated me and when it comes to money (which is why we are all here) that comes up to roughly £60. I wonder if people are either too lazy to rate back or they just don't want to. I think as well, they obviously don't understand that rating other people's reviews will earn them more money in the long run.
I 100% believe in rating honestly. I am not one of these people who rate everything VU if I don't believe that is what it deserves. Useful is a good rate and I don't see why so many people have such a problem with it. Maybe this is because so many people now are giving VU's automatically, even if the review is the bare minimum 150 words and is obviously not VU. If I work really hard on a review and feel it is worth a VU and someone rates otherwise, then I will sometimes send them a message asking why. This isn't because I am mad or anything like that but more because I would like to know what I can do to improve my reviews overall. Due to this rating system, a lot of people expect VU's now and get really angry when someone like me rates honestly.
When it comes to food reviews, I don't have a problem with the category as many people do but I do question the way some people write the reviews. If you are reviewing something very generic like baked beans, I think it should be something special and interesting as most of us will already know what these taste like. This is a consumer review site and a very basic review of this item is not really going to help anyone decide whether or not they are going to buy this product. I'm not saying that I want to read a massive essay on a tin of soup but more than 150 words would be nice.
I really think that the 150 minimum word count is far too low no matter what category you are writing in. My reviews tend to be at least 600 words now that I know what I am doing so I think the minimum should be at least 500 words. I don't think that this is asking too much at all because I find this amount extremely easy to write. This will help stop churners as well. I think that these churners should have more of their reviews locked for not being useful enough and be made to work harder and put in more effort. I don't really like the idea that I am earning the same per review as someone who writes 10 in an hour.
If your review is not laid out well or spell checked, then it is very unlikely that I am going to want to read it. I have looked at some reviews over 500 words with no paragraphs at all. When you are sat reading on a computer screen I find this very difficult and it puts strain on my eyes. I generally wont rate anything like this because I just can't be bothered to read it if the writer isn't going to put the effort in to form a few simple paragraphs. If you were writing something for school or college then you wouldn't write in this way would you?
The same goes for spelling. No one wants to read a review that they can't understand. If this is the case, I am either not going to read it or there is very little chance that I will rate it higher than a Useful. Everyone will have a word program on their computer so just copy and paste once it has been spell checked. I admit that I do make some mistakes myself or things that spell check doesn't pick up but some nice members normally send me a message when I miss out words etc. I'm not claiming that I am perfect in this area but I do try.
I love being a member on this site and I am so glad that I found it. For a community that is normally so friendly, I wish that these little niggles could be worked out.