At the danger of sounding like the stereotypical raging feminist, what the hell is wrong with people? Women's football is underfunded, underappreciated, and under-supported. Yet the skill levels are equal (in my opinion at least) to those of the men.
The sexism in the game and the media is preventing the profile of the sport gaining equal status with the men's game. What sexism? Some poor naïve people ask. Well, how many footballers can you name? How many football teams have you heard of? Now, how many female footballers can you name? How many ladies' teams do you know of? Are you beginning to see the peripheral portion of my point?
A lot of this is a reporting and media coverage problem. Not to mention the general attitudes of advertisers and broadcasters at large. How many sports presenters and pundits are women? How much advertising focuses on men in pubs/betting/eating/whatever and watching football; how many feature women doing the same?
Not to mention that one of the disadvantages of women's football currently listed on the dooyoo page is 'there fit and they don't have any breasts.' I don't know what offends me more, the idea that a woman needs large breasts and to not be physically active, or the poor grammar and anatomy skills (they do still, in fact, have breasts.) Plus the amount of besmirching reviews labelling the sport as soft porn, pointless, and hilarious, is disgusting. I invite anyone making such comments to get in their kit and run around the field as I and a group of my mates point, laugh, and make comments belittling their manhood. I'll wait, go on - go fetch your kit.
Of course, some of the change in attitudes needs to come from the top. The FA and FIFA need to do something useful for a change and raise awareness of the women's game, as well as increasing funding so that the very top level teams don't have to languish in the land of semi-professional or amateur status. It would also be nice if the top women's cup didn't pay out a measly £5000 in prize money, where the FA cup is worth millions to the winner.
The other change has to come from the public. The ladies aren't there for your pornographic convenience, nor are they there to defeminise themselves. They're there to play football; and play it well. Support them, they damn well deserve it.
Because of the Olympics, women's football got a lot of prestige. All the stadiums were sell outs which was a great advert for the game. I went to Old Trafford with my two boys to watch the Semi Final between USA and Canada, there wasa buzz outside the stadium with fans dressed up and posing for photos with the local police. The atmosphere inside the ground was incredible, the football was entertaining with lots of invidual flair and great team work. The Mexican wave went around the ground a few times, my boys really enjoyed it.
I still feel that they should show more games onthe TV, not just the Womens FA Cup final. They should also get more press with a results page in the national paper, there is a great oppurtunity for this in the summer because the women's elite league carries on throughout the summer, where as the men's game finishes in May and doesn't start again until the summer. I would love to be able follow in the national newspaper.
It's great to see that they have had to cap the ticket sales for this weekend's women's international match between England and Germany because they have already sold 50,000 tickets. This is fantastic and its great to see families turning out to support their Womens national team. It will give the England players a boost and the atmosphere created will inspire them to victory against Germany who at the moment are probably the best team in the world.
After the girls outstanding success in the Olympics the BBC has been called to account by their critics that they should show more minority and women's sports on their platforms. And so they did, a woman's friendly football international popping up last month on their 301 sports channel. It was in Sweden, there were about 200 people there (mostly screaming school kids let in for free) and the first football match the BBC have shown that had more people at the ground than watching it at home. In short there was absolutely no point in this exercise. That's not even a noisy minority calling for it. Even England men's friendlies can be justified on TV these days; they are that dull and contrived. The BBC, short of any sort of live women's sport in the autumn in England, then chose to do a radio commentary on sports extra of Arsenal Ladies Champions League semi-final match to show they were reacting and covering more non international women's sport. No girl's team had ever won in Germany, the justification for the coverage, but still no English girl's team winning in Germany, losing 2-0 and so 4-1 on aggregate to Frankfurt. Who on earth was going to tune into that!
When the English girl's cricket team made the Twenty20 Final in Sri-Lanka in September to play Australia they were the warm up act for the men's final in the afternoon. Even with the host in that men's final the crowd did not rock up until the main event. No one is interested in women's cricket and it's the same with women's football. The critical female fans required to make professional women's football credible; put simply, would rather watch the guys play Saturday afternoon. Yes the girls got 70,000 at the Olympics but the fans were there to see an Olympic sport, more than the girls, the only tickets left for an Olympic sport at the point, hence the big gates. The girls benefited from the fans inability to get the tickets they wanted. If that as not the case England's pre Olympic international would have been busy. It was not.
The argument of the success of women's tennis and athletics is always used to say the likes of women's football and cricket could be viable and self-sustaining at a fully professional level. Well the FA have called their bluff and told the WFA that they can now negotiate their own TV and sponsorship deals separately and keep all the money, testing the water to see if broadcasters have any incentive to buy women's sport as not part of a general package with the men. I think the girls are going to be in for a shock at the lack of interest and some clubs could go bust because of this move, the FA teaching them a lesson by the looks. Most clubs have scaled down their ladies teams and community work as it costs too much for little return and Arsenal Ladies seem to win everything because of that now, winning 12 of the last 17 championships. The Doncaster Belles are the only other team most of can think of.
A new women's semi-pro league has been set up with just eight teams in, the Super League, 3 million the outlay. The highest paid player can get no more than £20,000, hardly worth giving up a good career for. Each team gets £70,000 from the FA and that's matched by ESPN, who screened the inaugural competition after signing up for a block of men's Premier League games. That money can't go on wages. But the crowds are poor and one game got just 50 people.
The English women's cricket team is all-conquering because many of the girls are paid ECB cricket coaches and ambassadors so can afford not to work and so train all day, a backdoor way of making them professionals. Only the Australians can afford to fund their girl's team to any sort of level and so the two teams blow everyone away. If the female football stars were to be paid it would have to come from the clubs revenues generated by the men and so conflicting to the FA stance. That's not going to happen if only 50 show up.
The unspoken truth is that women's athletics and tennis stars make their money through their sex appeal and not so much their talent and so the best looking and leggy girls make the most money. Anna Kornakova was a very average base line player but retired at just 24 as a multi - millionaire. Her looks and figure earned all the big cosmetic deals around and they were passed to fellow Russian Maria Sharapova, now the second highest paid player behind Serena Williams. A plain tomboy at number ten in the world in women's tennis will earn less than a pretty world number 50. The highest earner in women's athletics is the leggy Russian high-jumper Isinbeyova. The more butch field eventer's that have achieved far more medals and records are invisible and rely on federation cash and lottery money just to compete. If Jess Ennis wasn't as gorgeous as she is, would she be that rich and popular? Sex sells in women's sport and not their athletic prowess so much.
It's a shame as I quite like the way women's football is played, a purity to it with no diving and a flow to the game. No one is looking to get anyone sent off and they get on with it. Ok, the goalkeepers are tiny and hopeless but the girls are physical and seem to actually be enjoying the game. It would be nice to se more of that in the men's game, far too cynical and over hyped these days.
The 80's was great for many things, but ladies football was certainly NOT one of them! I am going to sound very sexist in saying this, but im going to say it anyway. Women's football in my opinion is pointless (but absolutely hillarious!)
Don't get me wrong its absolutely entertaining but for all the wrong reasons.
Lets face it, there is little discernible skill in it, and most people who watch it, (myself included) are just watching for the "bounce factor", or to see their legs/thighs getting a rub down with a sponge. (very sad I know, but honest).
Undoubtedly there are the occasional decent players who come along, but there are so few who posess any skills that it remains a poor spectacle from a sporting point of view.
An for this reason, I do not understand how it developed so far into a fully fledged professional sport, and even International. Why do people want to pay to watch this rubbish.
However, it is a sport which is growing in popularity and particapation is increasing, and especially so in schools. With this in mind I would say that the long term prospect for ladies football is good.
As with the increase in participation will no doubt come a greater proportion of skilled players than currently exists. Perhaps one day Ladies football will maybe even come close to the skill levels and entertainment levels set by their male counterparts.
Somewhere back in the early to mid Eighties, (no one exactly knows when) four dizzy school girls got together and decided to do something with their lives in Birmingham rather than be destined to grace the checkouts in their local Tescos. Sisters Jo and Maggie Dunne (four years older) were eagerly learning to play lead guitar and bass respectively whilst Vickie Perks only had eyes for being a front lady with microphone in hand and petite, blonde Tina ONeill, already had drumsticks in her tiny grip ready for her first lesson. Not really coming up with any great ideas for a band name, one of them came up with the idea of playing around with one of the instruments they were now rehearsing with. A Fuzzbox, to describe it in his entirety, is a guitar pedal used to create a distorted sound. It was first used by Jimi Hendrix and was an essential item to create a surround sound of blurred or fuzzy noises in rock music predominately. It also was and still is, a certain piece of equipment used by many punk groups around at the time to give the very essence to a punk rock sound. Thus Weve Got A Fuzzbox And Were Gonna Use It was born
Although with their brightly coloured rags and market off cuts image that was more Barbie than pure punk, they were appealing, but albeit out of date. Gracing the Indie charts was about as good as they could get in their early days. Too clean and well made up for anything along side The Slits, they took their place next to fellow extreme make up appliers, Strawberry Switchblade in the quest for pouts, powder, ribbons and vacant expressions. Now well equipped and fully all lessoned up on their respective instruments, they were ready to release their first single.
Signing up for Vindaloo records (they were the first and the only label around willing to take a chance on the colour blind quartet) they released the AA sided record XX Sex/Rules And Regulations in April 1986. It was Toni Basils Mickey all over again. It was racy, ever so girlie and pumped up to the hilt with far too much bass, and certainly not enough glam to tame the record buying public. Their video promo was an embarrassing arrangement of flitty scenes of a derelict street and all the gravitating stunning shots of a kid brother on too much Tizer. The single itself, flopped at number 41 and failed to rise any higher, but it did take the number 1 spot in the Indie chart. With its squeaky chant There must be more to life it seemed that Fuzzbox were going to have to pull something better out of the hat if they really wanted to keep away from the food isles. It is however, one of those tracks that since their readily acquired fame a couple of years later, that we sit back now and analysis for any deeper hidden meanings. XX Sex, will just go down as a crap song. Their over usage of hollering and whooping screams certainly werent going to put them down firmly in the punk hall of fame, but it seemed that for a brief moment, they managed to achieve something of a albeit, teddy boy retro feel with Rockin With Rita. Teaming up with mediocre where are they now, fellow nerds from the same label, its heavy Duane Eddy feel should certainly pull in the Seventies Teddy Boy ravers, even if they were all out of work Dads by now. Again, the timing was poor and yet again, its a track that we look back on fondly and remember the days of fancying the bloke working the Dodgems at Blackpool
Love Is The Slug, was actually their second charting single and took all the chic out of girlies in white stilettos dancing around handbags reluctantly at some cheap disco on a Saturday night (probably in Kidderminster) It was pure Siouxie Sioux with its dull, draining vocals and lacked any real imagination. Yet it was typical of the time. It sounded dreary and almost to the point that the band were being held hostage whilst recording it. It wasnt until the bubble gum Whats The Point, that we felt a definite change in the way their were reflecting the music scene around them. Released in February 1987, it was time that punk image of on the way out and they made a point of starting to dull down their look without it being too much of a shock to the last remaining punk buyers. Strangely but this time, they were creating an alternative to the ever popular The Bangles, who were happily having a jolly good time in the middle of the road pop charts. Meanwhile, Fuzzbox were climbing the ranks through the Inidie scene. Not an accomplishment by any all female set up until now. Surprisingly, this up beat, rockabilly track failed to do anything higher than number 51. Although they were Indie Queens , it was actually the commercial pop charts they were after
They knew by this time that it wasnt just their alternative, working class, struggling lyrics that would have to change. They couldnt sing about snogging at the disco, having a pint with the boys and doing the washing up anymore. The green netting had to go as well as the leggings and pink and blue hair.
After coming to blows with the Vindaloo label, they switched to the U.K section of WEA for their next single, and International Rescue was chart bound in February 1989 after a rather silent two year break.
It was yet more apparent in this track that Fuzzbox had a definite humorous side. We had all be aware of their antics as their video performances up until now had always been a touch risqué and tongue in cheek. With this particular track, we see two of them dressed up as Thunderbirds along with villain played by Adrian Edmundson. All an incredible piss take but we wonder which is more the stronger, the pee out of Thunderbirds or themselves. Either way, the trick had worked, they had reached number 11 and were now ell on their way to creating another angle to Eighties pop music. Already regulars on certain programmes such at The Tube on CH4 and (who could forget?) The Old Grey Whistle Test! They were certainly about to have their most explosive 15 minutes of fame.
Still just as noisy, yet now all wearing the same colour, they appeared to be tamed somewhat, and only admitting to writhing about on the floor during video sessions and gigs. They were now even bigger, more glamorous and profession, miles away from their amateurish, badly styled yet energetic theme. The music was more rock now than Indie. It had edge, sex on legs and was beautifully aggressive. The Spice Girls were a bunch of cabbage patch kids in still in baby grows compared to Fuzzbox. These girls were certainly all for girl power. Instead of a cosy night in and perhaps a snog goodnight; Fuzzbox would have worn you out then chucked you out after ordering you to serve them breakfast in bed.
Pink Sunshine, followed and sat rather ecstatically at number 14 in May 1989. One thing that could be said for this band who were songwriters, producers and masters at their own mixing, they knew exactly how to control their market. Not throwing too many singles in all at once in a desperate attempt to win the crowd over, they would instead, sit back and observe carefully, delegating as to what to release first. This particular track, Pink Sunshine, was, by their own personal standards a track that should be released during the summer. A track full of jollity and a real summer theme of bright sunshine and fun, they felt that it would have been a better hit if it hade been released a month or two later. They were probably right, but we would never know.
Perhaps their biggest track was their last noted single release although a couple more did follow. A swift, and also unaccredited solo by the legendary Brian May from Queen, Self, was definitely Fuzzbox going out just as the album from whence this track came suggests, with a, Big Bang. Angrily hogging number 24 in August 1989 it was the summer when all girls learned how to sneer successfully. It was meaningful as well as mean. We hated everything that moved whilst listening to this track. Men cowered in fear at a thousand young teenagers growling with the strength of a hundred PMTs. It was an awakening for both listeners and Fuzzbox themselves, but bitter resentments and disagreements between the label and the band members, meant that any further work was going to be limited.
Notably the most poignantly titled, Walking On Thin Ice, which was originally by Yoko Ono, was released somewhere around 1990 whilst the band went off on an epic tour of the far East. It was a desperate track not just in its theme but it flopped dramatically and the bitterness became too much. The band decided to cut their losses and continue with the tour, despite an awareness that Vickie was hankering after a break to peruse a solo career. Something, even today, she is still trying to find.
They returned home, recharged and fairly flat in their sense of the bands now iffy direction. Work on a new album was meant to take place, but reconciliations between the band and the label proved to be not worth it. From the unfinished Out Of This World, album, a final single was released just at the point hat the band decided to split up. The significantly titled, Your Loss, My Gain, heralded the second line of ..and you know things will never be the same again seemed to be the bands swansong. It was time to jack the whole thing in and follow more personal plans. The enigma of Fuzzbox had come to a sad ending and quite literally, all four went their separate ways. Tina is now an Art teacher whilst sisters Mags and Jo have gone on to write for other artists as well as DJ ing on the underground scene. (Must be ever so tight manoeuvring turntables around on those escalators )
Looking back on this band, we wonder if it could have been possible for this band to have kept going. Leaving the scene on such a creative high, it always seems such a shame that bands depart company when to appears that they could have had so much more to say. We had watched Fuzzbox grow and we grew with them, from their messy, embarrassing and over coloured take on punk (almost an insult to true punk rockers) they were, only briefly mind, to punk what the Cheeky Girls were to pop music; petty much an insult, but they broke away, rather glamorously from all that and became the most sort after girly group in the late Eighties, if only for a couple of years - hence the idea that they had literally, 15 minutes of fame.
With no real tuneful notes in their heads, they certainly had learnt to play their instruments well considering they couldnt play a note at first. They were so bad, it was genius. They looked awful, they couldnt sing and their arrangements were about as professional as the Mini Pops yet they still stick in our heads and the world of Indie pop is a very dull and uninteresting place without them even today. It has been 16 years since they had us reaching for either the remote for the volume button to go up or reaching for the kettle in the kitchen. An attempt to make a come back did appear once somewhere in 1998, but quickly fizzled out the same year.
It was time to put the sequins and hairspray away and go back to listening to some dire Best Of 2006, album instead. Somehow it doesnt have the same feel .
Fuzzbox were and will always remain so as;
Vickie Perks - vocals
Tina ONeill - drums
Jo Dunne - lead guitar
Maggie Dunne - bass guitar
Albums to run out and elbow old ladies for;
Big Bang, 1989
BBC Sessions, 2002
Look At The Hits On That! 2004
Vindaloo/WEA record labels
Ciao and dooyoo
Womens football is fantastic, its like soft porn. No but seriously its good for girls to play football then maybe they wont look like fat mingers. Unfortunately the Fulham girls football team won the womans cup. Many people take the mick of woman trying they should stick to cleaning and cooking.I love watching it, it gives me an excuse to play with my action man! By Jack the Spack Sory dooyoo.co.uk but it is funny!
Women can't play football. They can't head the ball, tackle, shoot or understand the offside rule. And don't even think about asking a girl to chest it down ... Actually, women *can* play football. It's just that I couldn't, particularly - though I had a good old crack at it, on and off, for three years. I'm not for one minute going to pretend that women's football in the UK is at the same standard as the men's game (yet), but it is now the most popular women's sport in England, so I thought I'd pen this opinion based on my experiences. I have been involved with three different clubs. The first was the most enjoyable, arguably because it was the worst team of the lot: Leicester University Women's Football Club (apologies to any "old girls" who may be reading this!). As I couldn't dribble, run or score - but proved to be reasonably competent at kicking people - I ended up playing in defence. I was in the team week in, week out because we often only had nine players instead of the usual eleven (I don't think women's football was as popular back then). We always lost, usually by quite a heavy scoreline. Our best result throughout the season was a 2-1 defeat against Aston University. It was their first ever victory (they usually lost heavily every week too) and the first time we'd conceded under ten goals, so both teams were happy, and friendships were formed in the bar afterwards. Every Wednesday we'd have the same ritual: get beaten either home or away, and have a few beers afterwards. And it was immense fun - it's not that we didn't try - we were probably one of the most spirited teams in the league - it's just that we were rubbish. All of us apart from Ineker, that is - she was from Holland, where women's football was more established in schools, and predictably we used to call her Lineker. Imagine the tragi-comedy when she broke her arm
and was not able to play for six weeks... My second club was that of Surrey University. I never actually played for them because I was working by then (Wednesday afternoon matches again, y'see) but the training was great fun, and we shared an astro-turf with my beloved Woking FC for a time. It was particularly amusing when they turned up early one week and our captain told the Woking manager to bugger off! My third and final club was Viking Greenford Reserves in West London. We were (almost) as bad as the Leicester lasses, and shipped several goals a week (I was keeper for one game, conceded 14 and won player of the match!) but it was enormous fun. We shared a ground with Viking Greenford FC, a Combined Counties League side. The women's team maintained the grounds and ran the bar in the clubhouse - which was quite a laugh after training and matches. There were over 40 people in this squad (with youth, third, reserves, and first teams) and we all had our own squad numbers (personally, I found this quite exciting - even if I was no. 31). At Viking I played in every position and was spectacularly inept at them all. It's is an ambitious club, though, and the first team has some fine players. Enough about me. What about other women? ======================================== The above is probably what most people think of when they imagine the stereotypical women's team or player. This is probably because the sport is developing at a disproportionate rate - the perfect example of this is Fulham, England's first professional ladies team. Last season they were streets ahead of every other club in their league, won all their matches and regularly scored over ten goals a game. As such, their hugely successful season were almost farcical - and now that they've been promoted to the women's AXA FA Premier Southern Division their opposition will hopefully be a little better matched. Fulham ladies ac
tually play a lot of their games at Woking, so I get to hear a little bit about them. I've seen them a couple of times, and they have some excellent players (it's even been joked that they're better than the men's team at Woking, and I certainly wouldn't like to see that little theory put to the test!). They're entertaining to watch, they pass the ball well and they're very skilful. And yes, they do head it. There couldn't be a better time to get into women's football - it's growing every day. The Greater London Regional League has been expanded for next season, West Riding County FA has just started a girls' league and well-known organisations like the Girl Guides are getting involved in women's football initiatives as well. We've a long way to go before we catch up with the USA (where the women's game is arguably more popular than the men's), but over the next few years I expect women's football in this country to keep on growing. What do I need to start? ======================== The beauty of football is that it is incredibly cheap to take up: all you really need is a pair of football boots and some shinpads! Clubs usually provide the kit to play in (and some clubs - like Viking - even provide training kit too) and the balls to play with. You will have to pay subs to play and train but this is normally only around £3 a time. To play in competitive matches you will also have to pay a registration fee - with the Greater London Regional League this was £35 per year. Some women's clubs have teams that only play in friendlies (this is what the third team at Viking was for), and there is no fee for this. If you're not sure whether you want to take up the sport seriously you probably won't be asked to pay any registration fees to begin with. If you don't want to compete at all, many clubs will simply let you train with them instead. But I
39;m too old! ================ You might think you're too old, but you're probably not. The oldest player at Viking celebrated her 40th birthday last season, and another club I know has a player in her fifties, so it really is a sport for all ages (and abilities - if I can find a team to play for, anyone can!). How do I find a club? ===================== The FA has a number you can ring to find your local women's club. There are also several informative websites for further information, and I've listed them at the end of this opinion, along with the FA's helpline number. In conclusion ============= If you fancy giving women's football a go then I'd really recommend it. It's cheap, great for fitness and you can make lots of friends. There's something special about the camaraderie you get from team sports because you share so many experiences. And with practice, you will improve, no matter how "bad" you think you are. Of course, it has its downsides too. Football can be quite a physical sport and everyone gets injured at some stage - watching from the sidelines can be quite frustrating, but most injuries are only minor and part and parcel of the game. The other drawback to women's football (and this is why I stopped) is that it can eat up your Sundays if you play every week. Overall, though, it's a great sport to get involved in, and you'll be surprised how much fun getting ridiculously muddy on a Sunday afternoon actually is. Reference ========= The FA's helpline number is 0845 3108555. They will be able to give you details of your local club(s). There is also some useful information on the FA Website at http://www.thefa.com Other relevant websites are: http://www.shekicks.net - the women's football magazine with news, interviews and features. http://www.ladies-f
ootball.co.uk - a directory of women's clubs across the UK
Oh dear. I’ve been writing rather a lot about football lately, haven’t I? I think it’s got something to do with the football season really. Too many matches to see, too many magazines to read, too many Manchester United players to cheer on. Y’know, it’s hard and tiring, but I love it. I love Women’s football, too. Not that it should *really* have ‘Women’s’ in front of it, because Men’s football never ever ever has ‘Men’s’ before it. That’s just confusing. “I went to a Football match yesterday” “Oh, who did you see? Manchester United? Wimbledon? Grimsby Town” “No, Fulham” “But you don’t even like Fulham” See, it’s confusing isn’t it? People will just assume that when you’re talking about Fulham you’re talking about ‘men’s’ football unless you say it’s women’s football, because it’s just not as rated as much, even though it should be, of course. I like Fulham. They’re my Women’s team that I follow. Because to be honest, the Manchester United team is zilch, which is strange considering Manchester United are one of the biggest clubs in the country. You’ve got to have a soft spot for Fulham really, unless you support Chelsea, because Fulham are the first ever women’s club to go professional, which is great, because more and more women’s clubs will hopefully go professional and women’s football will be better publicised than a little column in a Sunday newspaper, or a bit more when the FA Cup final comes around, so then at least you’ll know what’s going on. Who’s beating who etcetera. It’s quite nice being a small game, at times. Why should it have to be as big? It’s a sort of cosy game really, nice and friendly, but in a way, it would be really good to see peopl
e taking more notice of it. At least it’s getting bigger and bigger as time goes on and more people are playing it. There are loads of academies opening now, where you can get scholarships to play football. Boy, that would be good. Play every night and a match on a Sunday. Then, you might go professional too. If I was a professional footballer, I’d be a highly intelligent one like Eric Cantona was. Heehee. In France and Germany they have some great football academies. In France women and men/boys and girls are admitted to the same place, which is super cool. Thierry Henry trained at the same place as girls, which is super super cool, apart from he’s an Arsenal player, so it’s just pooey. America’s the big place for Women’s football. All the fresh new women players go along to play for University teams across the country, whilst the men’s football over there is seriously at an all time low, and needs revamping. All the old men players go over there to try to prove they have something left in them, or maybe it’s just because they enjoy playing football too much to give it up. That’s good, and I’m sure it’s the same for Women. You want to play football, not particularly because you want to get paid, though it would be extra nice, but because you enjoy it. They want to be at the top of the game, so they can play against the best. Y’see, there’s not the same amount of money that goes into women’s football as men’s. There aren’t as many sponsors wanting to sponsor; women’s football seriously doesn’t get anywhere near the amount of gates as what men’s football does, because people don’t think it’s as good. Oh, but it is. It’s wonderful. Everything’s perfect. It’s not as fast, though you do get some wonderfully fast players. It’s more skilful, because footballers generally have more time to put skil
l in, and best of all, you can see that they enjoy it, which is why it’s so good. It’s also good that there are so many more girls’ teams around, that people are sending scouts to, so that players will be picked out, and can excel further. Exactly the same as boys teams. The problem with women’s football in England, is that most of the clubs are joined to the men’s clubs. Arsenal ladies, Fulham Ladies. The only one in the women’s premiership that isn’t is Doncaster Belles. In a way, this could be a good thing, because people see that a team’s ‘related’ to the men’s team, and then have more involvement in that because it’s that team. On the other hand, it’s bad, because people look down on them as they maybe aren’t as good as the men’s team. I’m sure that’s one of the reasons why it isn’t so highly regarded, because teams in America and all across Europe have big teams with no connection whatsoever to the men’s teams. Women’s football’s growing. It’s growing fast. It’s the fastest growing sport in England, in fact, and it’s great. Fulham ladies are great (even if they lost to Arsenal in the FA cup), England ladies are great. England ladies are especially great because well, they’re England Ladies. Maybe soon they’ll win the World Cup. That would be good, and maybe more notice would be taken. They didn’t do all so well in the Olympics, you see, and a few people criticised them afterwards. But what do you expect? England really are only starting up as a women’s footballing nation, compared to Norway, Italy or of course, the USA. But everything’s improving. The England Women’s team has some of the best facilities and has one of the best coaches in Hope Powell. People who criticise Women’s football saying that it’ll never be big, are stupid (in t
he nicest possible way, to all those who might have criticise it, apart from Ron Atkinson of course, because I don’t want to be nice to him). Women’s football is brilliant, and all it needs is a bit of encouragement, and then it could be. Putting it down and criticising it isn’t going to help it improve, it’s like most things really. Some day, you know, it’ll be brilliant, and everyone will want to watch it as much as they do men’s football. I swear on it. noodle.gorillaz2001
Having been a Chelsea season ticket for 10 years and watching hundreds of matches, I watched my first womens football match a few motnsh ago, Arsenal Vs Fulham in the womens F.A cup final, and I was shocked. It was so bad I was in stitches of laughter, their control is aweful and they cannot shoot. I did watch the whole match hoping it would get better but sadly was disappointed. A few weeks ago I saw the England womens team playing Germany and the Germans (who were meant to be good) thrashed England, but they were so terribly bad. Chester aren't even good enough for the men's third divison but they would win any match against a women's team. Hope Powell has to hope (no pun intended) that the team turns good overnight because otherwise who will watch it? It will get worse. But I do think that the quality will rise as more girls are being encouraged to, play. But on the plus side it does have a great atmosphere, alot better then Manchester Uniteds.
Equal rights is a big thing in todays society, and I've just read an opinion that supported this. However, I didnt feel the detail was there and that has triggered an op, sorry guys, you're reading now :) What I am talking about now is football, and more specifically womens football. I am actually a rather apathetic supporter of womens football, although I used to watch games regularly. I do feel that women should be allowed to play professionally on the same level as men but there are both advantages and disadvantages to this along with the simple obstacles that must also be cleared. I aim to highlight a few of these as the op continues. For now though, lets check out the advantages of women's football going professional. ADVANTAGES OF GOING PROFESSIONAL: *There are already professional leagues in Italy and many other european countries, not to mention the USA where it is a largely supported sport now. The Uk would merely be catching up with the rest of the developed world. *There are some great womens players that have the skill to match the male game and may well survive in the male leagues if they were allowed. Obviously there are reasons this is unlikely to happen, but the skill is there none-the-less and needs the chance to develop *There is a growing supporter base that could generate a large income if marketed correctly. There is the chance for a business here in much the same way as the male game is run today. *Women should be allowed equal rights and that simply isnt happening in football, many womens clubs are owned by male clubs (such as Arsenal Womens club owned by Arsenal FC) and they stunt the growth of the womens game to an extent. DISADVANTAGES TO GOING PROFESSIONAL: *The womens game simply isnt yet large enough to go professional with the top teams still not even reaching 5000 supporters a game in the normal league fixtures. *If the game h
ad the financial backing to go professional, it would have done. It simply isn't strong enough to do so, although it is improving. *Although there are some excellent players around such as Karen Walker the England international, there still isnt enough in the way of overall talent to create a superb league such as the male premiership. There are a few excellent players, but the rest are somewhat lacking. *There are only a small number of clubs large enough to be able to sustain a professional status even if they were given the chance. Teams such as Doncaster Belles and Arsenal who fouhgt it out in all competitions in the early 1990's would survive, but many others would simply fold. *There is a distinct lack of competition in the top league at the moment, even Doncaster Belles who finished 2nd walk away winning 10-0 on a regular basis. Arsenal can manage the same with few exceptions. The arguments for going totally professional are there, and are fairly strong, but there are so many problems that it simply isnt going to happen yet. There are some excellent points to take into account though and maybe work on for the future as the sport grows and maybe becomes ready for the professional era in the future. I'm not convinced myself. Having watched the Doncaster Belles hammer teams 10-2 week in week out, I know that there is a distinct lack of opposition to the top two teams and that leads to a rather boring league. There are also too many teams that are led solely by their male counterparts, such as Arsenal. There are some advantages and disadvantages to this issue in itself too. The benefits brought to womens football by the male teams helping in their running are obvious. The coaching and development is there to help the players and the financial backing is put into the clubs to help them develop, with the male teams stadium often being allowed for use in bigger games. There is also the pro
vision of kits and the obvious use of the club name that can attract supporters on its own. There are some disadvantages though, notably the holding back that can be placed upon womens teams by the clubs. It's hard to see Arsenal males team allowing the womens team to overtake them in popularity stakes. This isnt likely with a team as big as Arsenal, but what about teams like Barnet? There is also the fact that it leads to subsidised teams, creating unfair advantages to some aswell as preventing the womens teams from learning to survive on their own. You also experience a certain degree of achievement removal as many supporters say 'they only won it because the blokes are behind them'. There is another side to womens football that I should examine, although it is not a side to the game that I particularly like. Many people watch football because it is football, its the game of the UK and one that is the largest sport worldwide. Unfortunately, there are some who go to watch the female games merely for what they see as the sexual pull of the matches. Watching a women chest the ball down on large breats seems to turn some men on. I am not one of these although I have seen it, especially dour when they begin shouting something obscene from the terrace when children are present. Its a side to the game that sadly wont disappear, no matter what you do to promote the sport. SUMMARY: In summary then, I have to comment that I think it should go professional for women in the UK, just not yet. I dont think the game is large enough to survive it right now and it needs to grow more before it happens. The fan base is growing though and conditions are increasingly becoming better all the time. The problem we have with waiting is that players like Karen Walker, possibly the best English international are leaving for the big money in Leagues liek the USA (where she can expect $20000 a week!). What is clear is that i
f it is going to go professional, it needs to do so in its own right and not as a subsidised form of the male game. We must maintain the distinction between the currently overhyped and overpriced male game and what the female game wants to achieve.
Well ia have just read an opion that i totally and utterly disagree with. I believe that everyone in this world should be given the same chances wether they are male,female,black well i need not give you any more examples you no what i mean. I must say that the standard of womens football at the moment is very high all be it at just a few of the big clubs. This is only because of the way that society look upon women playing football. I tell you i have once been part of a male football team that took on a ladies football team on behalf of a charity and we were very lucky to come away with three points they were a very well managed team and as for not getting stuck in you just just ask our center half about that. I feel that women should be given the cahnce to play football on a full time basis and all i can say is the sooner the better.
Before i begin, i have to say that i have nothing against girls playing football for fun and recreation - after all, they are probably as good as many of the men that play it. What i do object to though is the notion that women's football should be played at a professional level - when none of the players are any good at all. Why should the paying public be forced to endure the "weak kick" and rush that made the women's world cup such a farce? Why would anyone want to watch women do what men can do 1000 times better? In formula 1, you would not pay to see 2 old men race, as you know there are thousands woh could do it better. The same should apply to football: where any non-league male player would be by far and away the best woman player in the country. If a point is ever reached where a woman reaches that standard, then she should be allowed to play with the men. The game is almost non-contact now anyway: and therefore there should be no problem. Until then, let's stop all this nonsense talk of women having professional leagues, and everyone having to endure the joke that was the women's FA cup final.
I have nothing against women’s football in general. I'm sure that woman can be just as good as men if given the same kind of encouragement and opportunities from an early age. I have watched a lot of boring football in my life, but women’s football just isn’t as entertaining to watch as men’s. There is a distinct lack of flair and creativity; and the players don’t seem to have the same “on the ball skill” and control as their male counterparts. The only reason for this that I can think of is the lack of training when the girls are young. Catch them at an early age and their skills should flourish. Until it becomes a more accepted and entertaining game, women’s football will never get the kind of media coverage in this country that it deserves and as in the men’s game, no media coverage, no money. If there’s no money in the game, then the big clubs will have to reason to start a women’s team. So, if you or your girl wants to play football, encourage them, help them, support them. It’s the only way we are going to improve and build the sport in this country. After all, we can’t have Americans being better at (women’s) football, can we?
At the beginning of the 21st century women's football, like men's football, has become professionalised and is growing in both popularity and participation. From the first known professional team in 1984, to the hundreds of thousands of tickets sold for the 1999 Women's World Cup, support of women's professional football (soccer) has increased around the globe. It is now the third most popular sport in the world. The first Women's World Cup was held in China in 1991, and was won by the USA. The third Cup, held in the United States in 1999, drew worldwide television interest and a final in front of a record-setting 90,000+ Los Angeles crowd, where the home team won 5-4 on penalty kicks. In 2008, FIFA will institute an under-17 world championship. The inaugural event will be held in New Zealand.