I think we would all agree that over population is the principal reason for the increase in greenhouse gases and not so much selfish human activity, unless you count having more than two children selfish. Either way no one can or will stop people having children so we have to collectively accept the consequences and stop worrying about global warming and ride it out, enjoying warmer English winters in the process, if and when they ever happen. Electric cars that go 40 miles before a five hour charge up are not going to save the world and nor is less packaging on your fruit. Is it not coal powered plants that create that electricity that charge those batteries? And I guarantee you the coconut without the plastic wrapping will be the last one left on the shelf. And when the government suggests sites for renewable fuels like windmills and nuclear the same middle-class types that protest over the war in Iraq because it's about oil then moan about having wind turbines near their villages, the same group most likely to employ an accountant to evade their taxes. Where do people expect power to come from? Fortunately a democracy affords that hypocrisy.
The only thing that will save us from the alleged catastrophic global warming is another world war, probably with China, purely because of the 1 billion or so body count that will no longer be drawing resources, so either way we will lose out. We have this stunning planet that's the envy of the universe and we are going to f**k it up come what may so we may as well accept that. It's in human's nature to self destruct purely because we think and we can reproduce.
I personally don't believe there will be a catastrophic global warming disaster and man and the environment has a way of sorting itself out. Clearly we are changing the climate by pumping the crap out but when pumping out that crap starts to cost big business trust me they will make sure that won't happen for too much longer threatening their profits.
Now I'm going to wander off on a tangent here but stick with me. There was a recent case where a nurse was fired for secretly filming on a hospital ward to show how poorly old people were treated, especially those ones with dementia that shouldn't be on general wards but in the care homes that were long since closed down. No one at that hospital wanted to treat those people badly but the resources they had available to them demanded that. Punishing the whistleblower is the only way to contain that home truth we can't deal with. 32,000 patients a year die of MRSA in hospitals, these rates tacitly 'accepted' as about right because it keeps enough beds open and so the system doesn't grind to a halt. A system is what works through experience and time. It's callous but the only way the system can work. It happens in every NHS hospital and care home in Britain at some point. Once you get over 80 you are a drain on resources and ushered on your way. 90% of your contribution to the NHS through National Insurance is spent on the last 6 weeks of your life. You come into the world in a pile of fluids and go out that way. It happened with my dad and we were pressured to sign his life away. The point here is that because life is so precious then we need to have more people to look after the elderly and so the population always increases with those green house gases, those young people getting old, putting more strain on resources once again. People are ranting and raving over the greedy bankers causing the economic collapse, but again they put a system in place to exploit and make money because the world MUST produce growth effectively out of nothing or we just don't have enough money to take care of everyone in those western hospitals. We create what is effectively an illusion that wealth is out there and when the bubble bursts that is the realization that wealth doesn't collectively exist. Everything gained is lost. Again, the solution to most of our problems is less people. The genius of green taxes is, like the Catholic Church, you control people through guilt, blaming them for the global warming. Green taxes are no different to income tax and if you can persuade enough people we can slow global warming by buying less stuff but still bringing in the same amount of taxes then you have cracked it.
Our current green policy isn't working and governments like ours are purely using the hype to increase general taxation. We have all seen local councils use similar policies on parking by claiming congestion hurts town centres and by employing twenty parking attendants they promise to cut that suggestion. Suddenly yellow lines and metered parking bays appear and there's no free parking where there was before. This means any overstay can be fined and revenue can be raised. If hype is seen as reality over global warming then the government can really hit us with green taxes, as they are starting to do now, the European Union the worse culprits. 50% of all your gas bill increases are not to do with the price of gas but to do with green taxes levied by the EU, of which most of that cash will be no doubt spent on their 20% wage and pension increase they have just agreed with themselves.
Take the landfill act that the EU introduced. The law was supposed to be punitive green taxes to make councils around Europe recycle more and bury less, a great idea in principal. But because the fines are so harsh and it's hard to hit the 40% recycling targets the councils are panicking and shipping their junk off to places like China and India that go on to produce those green house gases somewhere else. In the downturn that method of disposal has increased radically as the price of recycled materials has collapsed by 80%. Most of the stuff you sort in 2009 is either being stockpiled in warehouses, increasingly incinerated, or land filled abroad. The big question for me is if we can't exploit recycling in recession then what's the point? Its inevitable that this stockpiling to avoid EU fines will mean an increase in your council tax to pay for that storage, all very ironic, the bin tax another two steps closer me thinks. The council has got to find extra cash for refuge and that forced green policy and that means those people who religiously obey the recycling rules are the ones most likely to be targeted to pay any fines or bin taxes needed, purely because they will and the abusers wont, even anti terror laws being used to snoop on people throwing their trash out. No one believes that if bin taxes are agreed that any householder who cuts their landfill rubbish and increases their recycling will pay less council tax. Everyone expects it's a mechanism to put up the council tax, just as we know from experience that parking attendants are indeed about making money and not cutting congestion.
The April 1st protests over various issues, including the economy and climate change, irritated me greatly and I thought the police did a great job on the day to contain the thug element, most of whom had come over from Italy and Eastern Europe. It's sad the old chap died in the scuffle but he looked drunk on TV and had an enlarged liver through that reported life of drinking that eventually killed him that day, a man no stranger to falling over on his face in public. Just as I get a truncheon to the back of the legs by dooyoo when I push it then that bloody woman who taunted the police on a stressful day also deserved it. She had multiple convictions for shoplifting and was a certified drug addict and was not there to protest over windmills. How is she doing society any good? There's nothing more grating than students and middle-class liberal types who claim to represent the masses, taking the day off lectures or work to protest for the sake of protesting. These are the people that not only make it hard for other people with more general gripes to protest but they are usually the same people who benefit most from the system that they are protesting against. Where do they think the money comes from to live the comfortably lives they have been living if not through risk taking in the markets? It comes from those credit cards in their pockets, the cards from the banks they were protesting about, the ones they should have to hand in now if they hate the system so much! Again risk generates profit and it has to be taken, and if that growth produces pollution then so be it. And like those images and videos captured of extreme weather events that pump the fear of global warming, the same cameras snap the tiny amount of needed police brutality, making it worse than it was.
Recently deceased best selling author Michael Crichton wrote a book about global warming, which although dull, was a polemic that made some good points. He sees manmade global warming as a conspiracy by the ruling classes to make yet more money, simple as. It is predicted that up to $50 billion dollars will be made on carbon exchanges alone in the next ten years. Carbon exchanges are where big companies can trade their pollutants costs with other countries and companies. For instance America can sell some of its pollutant quota to Indonesia so the same amount is produced but America aren't technically responsible. Anyhow, Crichton theory is all about risk. The all-seeing 24/7 media report every global disaster and so it increases the fear that the world is less safe place. Hurricane Katrina was cynically attributed to global warming and we were told we would have more hurricanes every year but the category storms have remained unchanged in 100 years in the Caribbean and Gulf of Mexico. But the fear has been sewed and so more expensive insurance policies can be pushed through in the Caribbean and laws can be introduced to stop things that can't really be stopped, but making lawyers more money to legislate against them. Politicians love it because they can jump behind populist fears and campaigns and so keep their face in the trough of public money that the job pays and the kick-backs the hype it generates. Scare people enough and they will turn to anyone with half a solution. It's already decided that the green revolution is the next big earner now the banks are to be regulated. Have you noticed that Labour only make global warming policy announcements when its nice and warm and the gas companies announce price rises when its freezing, just as the water companies do when its dry and warm. If we are suffering global warming in the U.K then how come our gas bills have gone up 60% since 2000? Surely we should be using less gas at cheaper prices? You can clearly see the hype is being exploited, which must suggest the two are connected, which asks the question who is generating the hype? Since the warmer years at the start of this decade its gone all cold and wet in the second half of this decade and is set to be no warmer of colder than 1909, a very normal ten year spell in any century. That fact you won't hear about. The Romans invaded Southern England in the middle of the last century because it was three degrees warmer here than it is this century so they could grow grapes.
The scientist say that the more of the ice caps melts then the less heat is reflected off the ice and the warmer the earth gets. But did you know that if you put a cup of hot water out on a frosty night and a cup of cold tap water the warm one freezes first? Try it and see and then you may question all the hype, hype that whacking up your taxes more than the days when global warming wasn't in the news.
Titled: Final MELTDOWN
There is one matter that we cannot control apart from Sir Fred Goodwin's pension, and that is climate change. It is shocking that over the last 25 years we have now a generation that has been aware of global warming and CO2 emissions, and yet have not clamped down on the corporate giant perpetrators, by introducing green taxes half a century ago. If Westminster imposed this tax the UK would be leading the world in climate change and the US would have been forced to tow the line also. Yet we have wasted time. Time we cannot afford to lose. Our politicians have been bathing in wealth from the super rich companies who have systematically exploded billions of carbon emissions into the atmosphere without any concerns of an iron-fist green regulatory body on their cases. It all sounds too familiar doesn't it! Now the wealth has been handed back by Westminster to ailing banks in their own words 'to protect the taxpayer'. So where are the funds to protect us from a mightier force being 'climate change?' By not having green taxes in-place for a quarter of a century another financial black-hole has appeared in redeeming this serious matter; and it doesn't depend on world market share-prices.
More than 2 trillion tons of land ice in Greenland, Antarctica and Alaska have melted since 2003, according to new NASA satellite data that show the latest signs of what scientists say is ultimately called 'global warming'; apart from the ice melting, there is huge amounts of methane in each square foot of ice that then escapes into the atmosphere and that is quickening up global warming far greater than man could. Methane is also escaping from volcanic material all the time, sneaking out, like a quiet but deadly fart; evidence backs all this fact up, we as mankind are not completely to blame for climate change and for the ice cap meltdown.
In 2001 when the UK was in the grip of 'Foot and mouth' huge amounts of methane was being dispersed by the burning of cow carcasses, cows give off highly concentrated forms of methane, it is in their system. - I wonder how Westminster could measure the green tax bill for dairy farmers. The fees would be gastro-comical, even if the farmer did have a carbon free home and lived off solar-power for boiling kettles and ran his farmyard vehicles on fermented bio-fuels. His own CO2 emission would be minor but overall they would be huge, if Westminster use scientists to re-valuate green tax thresholds or bands; which I feel they won't, going by past budget speeches that tinker with odd analogies that would be laughed out in court on a normal day to day basis. To administer a general green tax would be ludicrously naïve at this stage.
I believe in the green tax for corporate giant perpetrators who have systematically made huge profits out of being filthy when it comes to using cleaner methods, 25 years ago. However, the idea of introducing a pathetic model for greener tax is not viable. The work involved for the Environment secretary MP Ed Milliband would be enough work for twice the size of the Home Office. Bills would have to be brought to the House of Commons every 30 minutes for six months to cater for the huge back-log of greener ideologies. It just won't happen. The changes won't be implored in time to make a difference. The regulatory demands from authoritarian bodies are still not in-place to enforce companies even today to change to greener methods. A big example of this was the idea of a 'paperless office' back in the pre-historic 20th Century should have been a back-bone for all businesses to envelope green policies, or at least Westminster led projects should of used pressure tactics to embody the greener ethic; can you believe it has been nearly twenty years since the 'paperless office' work ethic first came out. It so accordingly the 'grotesque elephant in the kitchen' scenario wasn't forth-coming, when it came to huge profiteering and protecting our very own planet.
I've written reviews before, that identifies the craziness of certain tax laws and havens that allow allegedly non UK mainland businesses whose HQ's are in the Canaries not to pay tax; even if they're actual business is predominantly is British. I shall name a few EasyJet, Virgin, Santander (no sorry they are Spanish even though they've bought our financial institutions) but you get my though pattern. By having these immense gapping holes in the tax system, I fear that any corporate green tax would be a lost cause anyway, as I'm sure there are many more gapping holes due to the non regulatory system we in the UK have now. Instead the green tax will be hitting the average Joe Bloggs whose up against it financially already, paying for Sir Fred's pension; (I always seem to get Sir Fred Goodwin in somehow) and this is what I disagree with 100 per cent.
CLIMATE CHANGE ACT 2008
Yes there is an act! Shock horror - Last October the House of Commons passed this act, by 463 votes to three, the most expensive piece of legislation ever put through Parliament. The only MP to question the cost of the Climate Change Act, requiring Britain to cut its CO2 emissions by 80 per cent within 40 years, was MP Peter Lilley. The CCA is an act to supposedly change the way we all regard CO2 emissions, yet falls short regarding green taxes which I can't deem as having much clout. I share Mr Lilley's view at the lack of clarity the CCA compiles of. - The jury is out whether the huge recycling schemes that are implored on the UK public will actually make that much difference on CO2 emissions, or our carbon footprint as a nation, especially as the other Milliband brother David, blurted out last year that nations would be able to buy environmental credits from each other as bargaining tools just so that CO2 emission targets would be hit. So it all sounds like a farce. For me, the plan is scarily poised at hitting home-owners the hardest and that is why any true green tax laws won't be deployed this side of the decade. It's all politics still. The last thing on the MP's minds is actually saving the planet. Gordon Brown has already apparently saved the planet from economic disaster, so he obviously needs a rest, hence the lack of urgency in green taxes, and of course any huge corporation red tape would deem a bad move politically amid a looming election year.
What made the CCA pass through the House of Commons like an iceberg cutting through the Titanic was that the Government's own "impact assessment" showed that, whereas its benefits were estimated at £110 billion, its costs were £205 billion. The MPs thrust their pen nibs to the positive direction in favor of the act regardless of whether it will be of benefit. The act was rushed through at a time where MP's obviously had their heads turning to more relevant matters, such as the ex-banking big boys Lehman Brothers collapse, which wiped off huge sums cash off the UK markets simultaneously. Obviously, a good day to pass through not thought out governmental packages with more loopholes than Aunty Mavis's hand knitted cardigan.
The CCA's basic standing point were rhetoric that was on the notion the Government would cut CO2 emissions by only 60 per cent. A ink blotting job aided by tippex then made amendments that increased targets to 80 per cent. - So we now have new figures to then be added to the original CCA 60% rhetoric. - proving the government's ineptness in doing anything green, or anything that matters. The bungled act now is beyond extortionate to comply with in the Western world especially with UK's current downturn. A bungled CCA , now is costing the UK £404 billion which has nearly doubled; making the House of Commons a farcical a resemblance of a mad-hatters tea party, whereby the tax-payer will be footing the bill until 2050; Canderell anyone?
Forget the tea, I would subscribe something a lot stronger when it comes to the facts. Scientists studying sea ice claimed that parts of the Arctic just North of Alaska were 9.5 degrees warmer than they should be. This is the biggest indication since 1750 that the global warming tilt has passed us already, to no return. Summer sea ice will become non existent by 2030; that would alone make many of the islands we all know and love inhabitable. Fancy another stiff drink? Would you like ice this time? It is okay, ice isn't being taxed yet, though going by the lack of it, it just might happen.
What I doubt won't happen is for any near future reforms to the Climate Change Act 2008; which at present deserves to spontaneously combust; if the CCA is to be of any use or ever gets off the ground in regards to green taxes, Westminster should consult Dr.Simon Deitz, an expert in carbon pricing from the London School of Economics now he does make sense and is a master guru in the subject compared to our muddling, full of pukka pie (nothing of note but hot air) Environment Secretary Ed Milliband MP.
Ed, Green taxes are not brown! Something to think about while you wait for your briefcase to turn up, loaded with yet more mumble jumble.
Thanks for reading 'Final Melt-down'.
Copyright - 04 2009 -1st2thebar
Well to speak of how we became un-green is not a reversible process now.And what we got to stress from now on is how could we stop the process of becoming un-green
Step 1 Reduce the vehicular emission.
We have been using carbon fossil fuels from many decades, this has not only casued air pollution but also degraded natural resources. The green cover has been uprooted and mankind has displayed how cruel it is to the mother nature.
Lighten the car load that we travel.please do not carry unnecessary load in your car.
Step 2 Reduce the usage of unwanted industrialized products
Products such as usage of polythene bags which we use to carry milk or food are very harmful to mother nature and its inhabitants.
Step 3 Reduce the electricity usage which is unwanted
Use energy efficient bulbs and tubes. Switch off the lights and bulbs when not required.
Step 3 - Save water
Save water and conserve water is the next step to go green. Please do not use water in bottles and pouches
Step 4 Save trees
Conserve nature by planting more and more trees in your back yard or any possible area. Reduce the usage of paper which is formed from cutting new trees. Please use recycled paper. Borrow books from a library instead of purchasing a new book every time.
And finally please reduce the usage of all non renewable resources of energy.
Brown will exploit global warming when he introduces green taxes. UK makes little impact on global warming. Big boys are in Asia and in USA.
I don't want green taxes it is a con making people think they are doing something for the environment when they are not and in the process taking their money to spend on things which have nothing to do with savig the planet.
Lot of people will be willing to pay green taxes so they feel good. I don't because it is money I can't afford to lose.
The global warming is a lost war, too much damage has been done in the past.
Global warming won't have much bearing on this island, I am enjoying the benefits of warm weather. Summer has never been so good
As we enter November it appears that the hot topic of the month is the environment, climate change, global warming and people who drive 4x4 vehicles. Next month itll be something else, and then the month after it will another thing. I suppose its the governments way of diverting everyones attention away from the other things going on.
Now dont get me wrong, I am all for saving energy and being more resourceful. However I feel that those in power have been very pro-active in offering solutions but have skirted over some of the other issues that go hand in hand.
Green Taxes is all very well and good but we are living in a country where it now appears no stone will be left unturned by the authorities looking to make a little bit more cash out of the public. Lets take for example the issue of taxation with regards to transport and pollution. One of the things Ive read is that youre advised to take public transport wherever possible and leave the car at home, take a train on long journeys etc. Well I dont know what planet the people who suggest this live on but it certainly isnt earth. For a 15-minute journey from my house to the city centre on the bus its now going to cost an adult about £4.00 and thats just a single fare. Compare this to parking for a couple of hours in the city with your own car and youre halving the cost. So where is the incentive for people to use public transport, there isnt one. Dont even get me started on the train; on long journeys youre looking at close to the cost of a 5-night holiday somewhere hot. Its little wonder that people are taking advantage of low cost airline travel.
The powers that be should also look at big business before they go targeting the ordinary man. Ive worked in a few big name businesses before and their attitude towards saving energy is fairly lax to say the least. Id hate to think how many computers are left on standby or even running 24/7 at a certain large insurance company.
Green Taxes should not just be a British thing, we are only a small island in a large landscape. To prolong the environment and the planet we need every single country to come together and have a mutual understanding. Sadly that wont happen just as long as various countries remain occupied with wars over oil etc.
In my opinion Green Taxes is just another buzz phrase created as a way of scare mongering the public into thinking about how they can tackle the issue in their own way. You can be rest assured that should taxes of this nature ever come into force then the revenue certainly wouldnt be spent on getting public services down to an affordable level.
But for now its worth turning off a couple of lamps, flicking things off at the mains and not putting things on standby whilst trying to recycle everything you use if its possible. Every little bit helps but more can be done.
Then in a few years time maybe you can say youve done your bit so what when are the government going to do theirs and actually start talking some sense instead of the usual media spin.
Its been a frustrating morning so far. Ive done my bit for the planet by taking our excessive number of green, brown and clear bottles for re-cycling; gone and got my shopping with the usual eco-friendly content and driven home in my third most fuel-efficient car in the country. I should feel good I suppose; after all I have some kind of conscience (apart from the drinking thing which is shameful) but whats annoyed me is the abject mess left by the side of the re-cycling thingies with the holes in the side (why cant folks take their f***ing rubbish home afterwards?); the incredible number of old people out and about today who all seem to think checkouts are too slow or "why dont they put another till on?" and the relatively sloth-like speed that old people drive at. Apologies if you are an old un and getting redder in the face as you read this but why are the older generation in such a rush in the supermarket and then just pootle about when they get into a car? Im sure the golden generation has a much longer "to do" list than me but do show some patience, senior dudes, and stop trying to rope me in when you want to moan about your unacceptable queue time *groan* Aaaaanyway, if you are wondering what the hell all of that has to do with the Green taxes issue then I guess its to point out that Im in an irascible mood as I write this and it may well be reflected in my thoughts.
So the politicians have finally woken up to the fact that we are destroying the planet at a rate of knots. In fact, the latest news indicates that if the present rate of climate change continues, what with floods, hurricanes, people growing grapes in the middle of December in Doncaster and the ice caps melting faster than the Titanic sinking in the North Atlantic then we may well all be living in mud huts and using cups and paper to communicate in 50 years time. Its a frightening prospect made more frightening by the idea of the global economy slowing down by 1% if we act now and by anything between 20 30% if we dont. Make no mistake; this would impact on everybody significantly. However, the response to such a massive issue has to be equally global in its stature and yet all the sound bites that come from the politicians are about introducing/enhancing green taxes. Will the present electorate ever tire of being taxed until the pips squeak and realise that the goodwill factor of our hard-earned going towards hospitals and schools is all an elaborate sham?
For anyone thats not seen the news the recent Stern Review has indicated that extreme weather could reduce global gross domestic product (GDP) by up to 1%; a 2 3 degrees Celsius rise in temperatures could reduce global economic output by 3%; if temperatures rise by five degrees Celsius, up to 10% of global output could be lost. The poorest countries would lose more than 10% of their output; in the worst case scenario global consumption per head would fall 20% and to stabilise at manageable levels, emissions would need to stabilise in the next 20 years and fall between 1% and 3% after that. This would cost 1% of GDP. It goes on to suggest that the possible solutions might include: Reducing consumer demand for heavily polluting goods and services; making global energy supply more efficient; acting on non-energy emissions - preventing further deforestation would go a long way towards alleviating this source of carbon emissions and promoting cleaner energy and transport technology, with non-fossil fuels accounting for 60% of energy output by 2050.
The government has suggested that they may adopt the following measures in their strategy: Create a global market for carbon pricing; extending the European Emissions Trading Scheme (EETS) globally, bringing in countries such as the US, India and China; setting new target for EETS to reduce carbon emissions by 30% by 2020 and 60% by 2050; passing a bill to enshrine carbon reduction targets and create a new independent body to monitor progress; creating a new commission to spearhead British company investment in green technology, with the aim of creating 100,000 new jobs; working with the World Bank and other financial institutions to create a $20bn fund to help poor countries adjust to climate change challenges and working with Brazil, Papua New Guinea and Costa Rica to promote sustainable forestry and prevent deforestation.
My fear in all of this is that the governments that actually matter dont take the findings seriously and domestically, the UK government simply reduces the whole thing into yet another sleight of hand to draw yet more income from the middle classes of this country. OK, if there is to be a tax on 4 x 4s that causes uproar in downtown Richmond then so be it. To be honest, I dont think it would make a lot of difference to me apart from the satisfying notion of hurting those ridiculous individuals who buy those completely stoopid gas-guzzling monstrosities where it hurts them most in the pocket. To have an impact on a global basis then key governments like India, China and the US must come on board and judging by the American contempt towards the Kyoto agreement, this still seems unlikely. With the economies of China and India expanding at a phenomenal rate then anything we do at a local level will simply be dwarfed by the junk being spewed out into the atmosphere by these two economic heavyweights of the modern world. And therein lies the rub. We ponce about talking about turning lights off, insulating lofts and driving a little more slowly in our diesel smart cars that take up just 6 of kerb space when parking, when the actual solution to the issue is so much more fundamental than that. I can take as many bottles back for re-cycling as I like but unless the poisonous clouds of smog that get churned out by the biggest players already mentioned aren't reduced significantly then we really are p*ssing in the ocean with anything else we try to do.
Which brings me back to green taxes. The fact is that the proportion of overall tax paid in this country is reaching record levels. Very little of tax payers money ear-marked as road taxes go on the roads; very little of tax payers money ear-marked for health goes on hospitals (the vast majority of the money is swallowed up by the bureaucracy thats sprung up over the last 10 years or so) and more and more money goes on the spiraling welfare system thats endemic in this country although mitigated by the record number of jobs created in the public sector to count the numbers of trees in a constituency or empty my bins from time to time. If we are serious about tackling the problem of global climate change then we need an international response that focuses on industries being made to look at the outputs from their industrial processes and, somehow, for this concept to be bought by the new industrial superpowers China and India as well as getting the capitalist ostrich that is the U.S. to get with the programme and appreciate its obligation to the rest of the world that extends beyond blowing up middle-eastern countries and perpetuating a non-existent enemy in its mythical war on terror (its the idea of Western Imperialism that needs to be squashed in the Middle East, not some idealistic terrorist who thinks he/she is doing their bit for the region by killing more innocent westerners as retaliation for the occupation of its land by the Infidel). Dont be fooled by the call for higher taxes; this issue can be solved but only with a coordinated plan that faces up to industrial processes and adopts an integrated approach to pollution on a Global scale.
Thanks for reading and I'd love to know your thoughts.