I can't quite believe that Dooyoo in Germany have decided to redesign the Dooyoo interface and only sent it out ONE country as an obvious pilot project. Can you guess who got the newly redesigned look? Not the Germans though, even if the head office is located in Germany...no, it would appear that Dooyoo UK has been landed with this awful to use new look.
When I signed up to site more than ten years ago, Dooyoo UK allowed me to express well and to improve the way I reviewed products that I buy. I have thanked Dooyoo many times and even my channel on You Tube carries a Dooyoo word in the name. They have got free advertising backed from my name as well as the general reputation I have worked hard to build up.
But, from the redesign that came to this site three years ago, Dooyoo promises the same layout you see here would be rolled out to the other three country/EU Dooyoo websites such as:
Dooyoo have left themselves open where I am concerned - the links to all of these country websites can be found at the bottom of the old page layouts and you'll find them easily on any of the above sites. If you open them up in a Chrome server window, you'll also be able translate the page to English if you are not sure...
But how could Dooyoo get it so wrong? The new redesign may well mean a much bigger font but there was nothing else in my opinion that was wrong with this site. The new redesign has met many glitches. Earlier for example I wanted to update my profile page on here and the post code section now tells me that my "value is too long and should be 5 characters or less." I have closed that window down - I have not the time to faff about writing my 7 character with a space post code - and if the system doesn't take it on, well it doesn't really matter much to me, any more. I am passed the stage of moaning to Dooyoo when basics like this should be automatic and stress free.
That is one example in a long list of glitches on this site since the redesign came to force. However, Dooyoo in Germany have not rolled out the new layout other than the UK site and it begs me to ask why? Why should UK members have to put up with the new layout when clearly it hasn't worked in the other countries? What are Dooyoo trying to do here, other than subjectively ruin the quality from years past where members could submit their opinions easily and without having to email external addresses when the page doesn't appear? What does it say for the stalwart members who have to put up with the new look and constantly "give Dooyoo another chance" ?
The new layout also eliminates the great public and private guestbook messaging that was a bonus to the old system, in my opinion. I do wish Dooyoo would reconsider returning to the old layout. On the basis that it seems the UK branch alone has far more reviews than some of the countries that Dooyoo have bases at, it begs the question to how Dooyoo in Germany view their UK members - rather than trying to bring something more modern to the eyes, that doesn't look or feel all that intuitive to use.
To conclude, Dooyoo UK is not the place it once was and when I say "place" rather than site, that is how the old Dooyoo review site used to make me feel. There was once a great community of writers here, but in recent times this new redesign has made the site feel like a ghost town. Is that how you treat your UK members, Dooyoo?
Thanks for reading (c)Nar2 2014.
Ps I have created a petition to pressure Dooyoo to return to the old layout. I would appreciate it if you sign it - many thanks. http://www.thepetitionsite.com/859/963/865/return-dooyoo-uk-to-the-old-site-layout/
Dooyoo used to be a great site for earning precious Amazon vouchers via writing of reviews. Alas that all changed on the fated day when the redesign hit. All the regulars abandoned the site in droves due to the extensive bugs that remain to this day. For example I try to unsubscribe from alerts, but I still keep getting them. I email support to cease the spamming, but I get ignored. No surprise as their staff have never been known for listening to feedback. Calls to tweak the restrictive suggestion system for example fall on deaf ears. Good luck adding new products that readers may be interested in to the catalog.
You don't have to be a tech wiz to see how flawed the new design is. Hearts replacing stars for ratings? How daft and how ironic. I used to love you Dooyoo, but you broke my heart. The new layout is hard to read and apparently implemented to make the site more mobile friendly. From what I hear the site is however broken for mobile devices. I cannot confirm those claims as I don't have a mobile phone. Why would I need one? I never leave the house and I have no friends to talk to anyways.
It's obvious that the company is on the ropes financially. Perhaps the redesign was imposed to scare off reviewers. If no one is around to rate articles then no one can make income ergo no need to make payouts. Interestingly I hear that Dooyoo is flat out refusing to pay out cash requests and will bully people into accepting vouchers instead. The donate to charity option probably only donates funds to the coffers of dodgy Germans.
Hi guys, I have been off of here for some time, had been made redundant and time just vanished for anything other than looking for jobs. So now that life has calmed down a little I was keen to get back on here but it looks so different I feel as though I am totally lost. I have read through the guides and FAQ's but I still feel really lost. If there are any regular reviewers out there who have been on since before all the changes took place, could you either direct me to the best place to read up on the changes or share your own tips and advice? When I started up at first you guys were so helpful in getting me started up and I in turn gave advice to other new members as they joined but now the site looks so complicated I am really struggling to work out how to use it. It took me 25 mins to find where to post this (eventually I searched back back back through my old posts and found one I posted about Christmas shopping, and used the link on that). Even if you just want to drop by and say hi I would love to hear from you guys, have missed this community :-)
I used to enjoy reading and writing reviews on dooyoo but quite a while ago I stopped visiting the website as I found I didn''t have so much time. About a month ago when I thought I would return to add a few reviews I found it had all changed and within 5 to 10 minutes I left again as I could not work my way around or even log in for that matter. Only the other day I decided to return and give it one more go and I think the website is a nightmare. It took me three days to finally find a site map of the categories without having to go through each individual category in the top corner and I searched for a product but that was useless as I had to go through loads of pages just to find what I wanted. The layout is awful and most of the page is taken up by empty space on the left and right making it frustrating having to zoom in on my ipad all the time but I couldn''t see properly without zooming in. I don''t like how when reading a review it just expands and doesn''t give a full page and then there is only helpful or not helpful so unless it''s extremely bad it''s always going to be helpful. When I wrote a review it frustrates me that there are no spaces and it won''t put pound signs in so I end up going through just to take them out and although the limit of words is good at the moment it is not many if you want to add some detail. I am currently struggling to read and rate others reviews as I currently don''t know how to see who has rated without going into each individual review and when I do read and rate a review I never know if I have read or rated that review before as I can''t see anything to show it and I can''t remember everything. Please help if you know how for either of these. I will continue to try and work this new website out but not sure how long before I give up again.
So this is it, then. After nine and a half years (around half of those as a Guide) and nearly 1400 reviews, my Dooyoo career is over. Not through choice, but thanks to Dooyoo''s ?amazing? new website. Quite how the new website ever got the green light to go live is beyond me. Any redesign results in a few kinks that are only uncovered when it starts being used for real, but this one was bug-ridden beyond belief. This wasn''t even a beta test version; it looked like a mock up someone designed as an initial proof of concept. Putting aside the aesthetics (people would have got used to this eventually if the site had actually worked) the implementation was risible. Almost no-one could log in; those that could sometimes got logged in as other people and saw their personal details. Most couldn''t post a review and if they did it looked awful, no-one could rate it and they weren''t awarded any Miles. Even if you were awarded Miles, they were no good to you, as you couldn''t ?chash? them in (as the site insisted on calling it) So, Dooyoo became a review site for sharing consumer opinion where it was no longer possible to write reviews or share opinions. That''s a bit like having a bike with no wheels. If Dooyoo had responded quickly they might have salvaged the situation. Instead, they chose to bury their heads in the sand. Almost four months after the ?new, improved website? launched, the same old problems persist. There are still people who can''t log in, can''t post a review, get rewarded for it or ?chash? in their Miles (that word again). Emails are routinely ignored, posts to their Facebook page mostly get the same treatment. Occasionally there''s the odd ?update? (punctuated with infuriating smilies) that tells you nothing, making vague promises about improvements that never arrive. Or they just carry on like nothing is wrong, running pointless competitions that hardly anyone can actually enter. It''s testament to the loyalty of Dooyoo''s members that many hang on in there, hoping (against all evidence) that the site will somehow rise Phoenix-like from the ashes. Not me; not any longer. I''ve lost the faith. I might return at some distant point in the future to see if they have got their act together but for now, in the words of Douglas Adams, ?so long and thanks for all the fish.?
I don''t think words can convey just how bad this latest change to dooyoo is. Three months on and many members are still unable to even log in and others still can''t post reviews. All dooyoo say is that they are working on solving these bugs. From what I can see the site is so full of bugs even Rentokil would throw up their hands in defeat. Most companies would have toughly tested the new site before it goes live but that appears to have been far too much trouble for dooyoo. They inflicted it upon the UK members ? and ONLY the UK members and seemed to expect us to test it for them. The result has been almost four months of a website that is about as much use as a cat flap in an elephant house. Then we come to the layout which looks like the result of a rushed year 9 homework. To say it is clunky and difficult to navigate would be an understatement. The reviews are also badly formatted and even if we do put in paragraphs these are nearly always lost resulting in a big block of text which makes the review much harder to read. Then when we do manage to post a review many of us don''t even get the miles we are owed ? this matter is raised on their facebook page and, just like everything else it gets ignored or a patronising comment about ?bugs in the system'' followed by an infuriating smiley is left. The other revolting changes are that on the re-launch dooyoo stated that they would be concentrating more and more on three small areas including health and beauty and fashion. Well what a slap in the face this is to those of us who write in sections such as travel and kitchen appliances. The imposed 500 word limit is fine for something like a perfume or a kitchen cleaner but not enough for something like an LED TV or travel. Then we have the rating system, gone is the four level system replaced with a two level one. How many times before this downgrade of the website were we told to ?use all four levels''? Then we have the spammers who post the same review in many sections and those who copy the work of others but don''t get removed. Alerting the team to this gets the same result as all other contact ? it is ignored. I find it unbelievable that it is only the UK site that has suffered this terrible fate. The German, Spanish, French and Italian sites are still the old site. It appears that dooyoo are treating the UK members as a pack of lab rats to experiment on to see if their new site works. The result is that it doesn''t. Now give us the old site back ? you know the one that worked.
I have been a member of Dooyoo for a number of years but not been making use of the site for the last few I decided it was about time to come back and was shocked to find the website had undergone a major overhaul which for me had not been needed as you only fix things when they don''t work and the previous version worked well. The overhaul has seen the Dooyoo site filled with bugs and sees you getting 404 errors all of the time when trying to post reviews. The fact you get the picture of a crying girl to me seems almost like they are trying to antagonize you and had begun to really get on my nerves a lot so I can only hope that when they say their engineers are working on this as their top priority that it will be rectified very soon otherwise I can see a lot of people ditching the site and never coming back. When you are able to post reviews a lot of people are finding issues with the formatting and layout of what they wrote and personally I have found some of the reviews do appear to have some formatting issues of late but even when the site has had an update done to rectify its issues I would think it is unlikely the previously written reviews are going to be sorted out which is a really poor showing from Dooyoo. The site used to be one I could login to at almost any time with no issues but since the update I have found numerous login issues including the site formatting itself being off and having no functionality, passwords not working despite them being right and even looping when trying to login. When you get this it will be pointless to keep trying so walk away for a while and don''t let yourself get frustrated with the site as the community is worth being a part of and so you need to keep that in mind rather than jumping ship like so many others. When contacting Dooyoo at the moment via their "contact us" option you will be unlikely to get a response for quite some time and so it is well worth sending them an email (you can find out the info on doing this within the "login errors" part of the community section) as this will lead to you getting a response within a few days and I think that the lack of response just shows how much of an issue the site redesign is causing and how many people are kicking off about it. Overall the new design is a massive letdown from Dooyoo and is likely to see quite a large number of people leaving. Whilst all of these issues continue I am copying my reviews across to save in notepad to make sure I have a copy incase of the 404 errors and also to ensure that I can update the reviews formatting once the site has rectified their issues.
Gosh where do I start. I am really missing my old Dooyoo and having fun posting and reading reviews. Now it is hit or miss if I can post a review - one failed yesterday for some reason - you have to make sure you have no pound signs included - but often it still does not upload. The formatting is rubbish - that is - non-existent. Making reviews just one big bunch of text which is almost impossible to read. The reviews were so much easier to read when set out nicely in paragraphs and with various headings - now it just looks like a load of nonsense. Never has a site been ruined so badly and over so long a period - do you intend to actually get it working properly. A band of monkies could have sorted it out by now surely. If you are paying for this redesign then you deserve compensation. Some people are still waiting for their money and the rest of us have almost given up trying to post anything worthwhile - as no one is bothering to read them much anyway. This must go down as a shining example of how NOT to do a redesign and relaunch - I cannot fathom how your ''experts'' can make such a mess of things. This was a good site to post on and also to read interesting reviews. Now they are limited to 500 words but I suppose when they are in one block of unintelligible text that is enough - it makes your eyes swim just looking it at. So well done Dooyoo - award yourself the golden prize for the worst relaunch and website in history - there surely cannot be one that has been worse. If I had not been witness to its progress ( or lack of) I would not have believed it myself.
What a total joke the new design has proved to be - mainly I can post, can't rate and it's impossible to use - it's OK though because the dooyoo team keep announcing how everything is better. Even when it's not - maybe they watched the Lego movie "everything is awesome"? My question is has any site EVER been launched in March and failed to work by June? Think not.....On another note it was disappointing too that the people in charge of the site seemingly got rid of guides without having the courtesy of telling them, and less still thanking them for (in some cases) many years of helping with quality control. For free. Despite the way everything was handled I did stay loyal to the site for a good while, and having tweeted the CEO of dooyoo hoped maybe he was right and that things would get better but as the weeks have passed it's becoming increasingly obvious that's it's just not to be. It doesn't seem that the programmers are up to the job and from the level of English in the more recent announcements you have to wonder how the people in charge will be able to judge the quality of writing on their own site. Or whether such a thing is of concern to them; as things stand only the spammers from random internet sites and a tiny minority can even put reviews up and no one, consumer or writer can use the site in any meaningful way. Of those who can write many are not getting paid, whilst crowns (remember them?) were at first given randomly after the relaunch and then have mainly ceased to be - and I gather those people that got them didn't necessarily get any miles anyway....Perhaps a few more members could add reviews in this topic with their thoughts? Assuming they can post. Who knows. At the current time in the main I still can not put up reviews of use to anyone (search function awful, database sorely out of date, suggestions limited and if I'm really lucky I get that really annoying pic of a girl screaming that sums up the new dooyoo experience) but if you keep it short you can post something I think, possibly if the wind is in the right direction - hope this helps any members who still venture on here, even if it's just to cash out and run. Fast. Last one out shut the door? Now where's the tumbleweed smiley? It's a shame it came to this.
I've been a member of Dooyoo for over four years now and have finally inched my way through to 500 reviews. I have witnessed quite a few changes to the site over the years, some for the better, although some have been for the worse:
When I first joined the site back in 2008, all reviews in all categories were paid the same flat rate of 50p per post and then 1.5p per member each. The only exceptions were for the Dooyoo Lounge - which was called something else at the time although I can't remember what- and any Archived topics. This system meant that it was as 'lucrative' to post reviews about baked beans as it was to review the latest laptop or mobile phone.
The current tiered payment system was introduced around the Spring of 2010. I was pregnant with my youngest son at the time and was like a pig in muck because all Kids & Family categories and Toys were in the highest paying level one category initially, so I had plenty to write about!
There was some resistance to the changes initially particularly as many popular topics such as Food and Books suffered a drop in the amount of miles that people received for writing about their favourite subjects. It also soon became apparent that some members had very vivid imaginations and would actually invent ownership of whatever random objects/topics happened to be paying the most at the time. There was even at least one long-standing member who I'm still convinced invented a totally non-existent child purely so that she could benefit from writing level one reviews at the time! It's difficult to prove suspicions like these but most persistent liars and cheats do end up tripping themselves up eventually as the fabricated reviews continue.
I find this issue to be particularly annoying, and surprisingly common, especially with some more obscure categories or brands. Strange how many Dooyoo members happened to have received random Dr Hauschka gift sets for their birthdays, for example, as soon as that relatively niche brand popped on to the level one list! It is also pretty sad that people are actually that desperate for 60p that they're prepared to sacrifice any scruples and start to lie about themselves online. I know we're in recession again, but surely they are more efficient ways of earning money without pretending to own twenty different types of lawn mower?
For me, I actually prefer the tiered payment system as I find it gives me more inspiration of topics to write on. I used to struggle to decide what to write about in the early days but the levels encourage me to consider what products I own in level one and get those reviews written before the levels change. I find it quite exciting when I spot a level change announcement on the Community Pages, which is pretty pathetic, especially when I discover that the latest topics are totally irrelevant topics such as Golf Equipment or Power Tools! That is the other drawback of the system as the site tends to get flooded with the same types of review on the same types of topic, which as a member who reads/rates considerably more than I write, it can get a little tedious! Some of the categories that find their way into level one can seem a little illogical too. Currently, for instance, you earn more for posting a review about Pritt Stick than a Ferrari!
- Anonymous Rating
Until fairly recently - I think it was around nine months ago- members could see exactly what ratings each review had received and from whom. This worked okay for the most part but there were issues around 'revenge rating' where members, often new members but occasionally established members, would take offence at a particular low rating and immediately retaliate by giving the same (or lower) rating to a review written by that other person. In the grand scheme of things, revenge rating was a pretty meaningless act, especially as the miles earned per rating remain the same whether it's an NU or a VU. It was a little annoying, however, and something I soon noticed more when I became a Guide as my tally of Useful and Somewhat Useful ratings started to grow at an alarming rate, thanks mainly to my honest ratings of new member's reviews of their Household Appliances. "I love this fridge. It keeps my food cold and is white. I think everybody should buy one." etc etc.
Anonymous rating seemed really strange when it was first introduced but now it is hard to imagine what the site was like beforehand and I think this has definitely been a change for the better by helping to reduce conflict and petty squabbling across the site.
- Restricting Suggestions
Believe it or not, when I first joined Dooyoo, members were actually rewarded with bonus miles for simply making new suggestions! (I think it was something very low such as 10 miles per suggestion.) There were also no restrictions on the number of suggestions a member could submit. This seems unbelievable compared to the current system when you can only suggest a topic when there is an XY and Z in the month and the star is in the East and you have to tap your head three times etc etc. (Or something equally as irritating, illogical and unpredictable as Dooyoo's current system of restricted categories each month.)
I've never really been a prolific writer so I don't mind having a restriction in the number of suggestions I can submit, although I would prefer to list all my new purchases together , after birthdays or Christmas, for example. The topic restriction is really frustrating for me and most other members, however, particularly as my attempts at being pro-active and suggesting items several months prior to intending to review them has also been thwarted. Several of my successfully submitted suggestions completely vanished from the site when I eventually came round to writing about them. I did ask Dooyoo about this and got a really vague and pretty unhelpful response back - basically, they have been removed from the site because the topics weren't popular with consumers. Seems like a waste of everybody's time to bother adding them in the first place then.
The most frustrating aspect about the current suggestions process is that there is no obvious pattern to the subjects chosen, making it difficult to plan ahead and reducing that spontaneity which was all part of the enjoyment of review writing for me. Some topics have never been open for new suggestions at all since the new system was introduced almost a year ago! Food, for instance, has never been open. I can appreciate that the topic is not a major priority for Dooyoo but it seems illogical to continue to pay for reviews on well-established products but not to encourage reviews on new food and drink items that members (and average consumers, in these cash strapped times) would be interested in reading about.
Anyway, there has certainly been no shortage in changes to Dooyoo over the years since I've been a member. It will be interesting to see what the next four years will bring to the site and its members!
173 crowns (1 in 6)
1,345,621 dooyoo miles
49,345 Reviews rated
49,764 Rates received
48,750 Very Useful
116 Somewhat Useful
49 Not Useful
The other day I read that Katie Price was atop the revered 'Times Booker List', the bimbo called Jordan now the most successful female author in the U.K (ghost written, presumably by The Stig!), according to our poshest broadsheet, an alarming number of intelligent women buying her trashy 'chick lit' in search of cheap thrills and celebrity along with their intelligent tomes. Now my point here is that this is exactly why I write in a tabloid style and why I think more of us should, the formality of a technical review often off-putting on dooyoo. The fact she is top suggests consumers don't really want to trawl through a boring product review that reads like the instructions of an Air Fix kit and so I try to make mine eye - catching, and if that riles up the usual suspects then so be it. There are plenty more exciting things to do on the internet than read us lot you know. I write as if everyone who reads my stuff is indeed intelligent and doesn't want to be patronised.
As dooyoo turns into ciao Im going to celebrate with my 1000th review here(even a Pakistani bookie wouldn't have taken those odds of me lasting that long!) I will redesign (that's redesign, not resign Gill!) dooyoo with my signature A-Z!
A - Arcade
How much more fun dooyoo would be if it was more of a virtual arcade where you walk into a shopping centre and visit all the various chain stores and niche outlets. The best red writers with reviews on - say Boots would be in the virtual stores and the external consumers could read up them on the various goods and services. Ok, a 3D software program would be a tad expensive for dooyoo but the internet is going to go 3D one day so why not get in now? I just like the idea of going into a 3D Anne Summer show in my own virtual arcade!
Right that was the dull opening for all those who like dull, practical reviews...
B - Boring Topics
Like many of you I feel guilty if I don't write at least 1000 words. Fair enough, dooyoo want us to write in the level one sections but its so tough guys. They are tedious sections to write (I'm currently explaining microwaves for my next household review) and most members have only one or two new items in those sections in their possession, but what external consumers want to read about and so we have to chase it. But too many good writers are not here anymore because there are no rewards for writing on stuff they enjoy, why they came here in the first place. Now the balance has gone they are gone. I would make sure sections like film and dooyoo lounge were given more rewards and crowns to get you all back again. The film and many other popular sections are at an all-time low for crowns and some of the best film writers have all but given up here. It's not too late to get them back.
C - Comments
I would finally give you the option to DELETE them on dooyoo! We have all logged on after a hard days work or a few pints and regretted having a rant there and then stressed further over any blowback from dooyoo. Some guides and prominent members know some are on tightrope and enjoy writing a taunting comment we can't reply to. I now just report them to save any hassle but a quick deletion for both your and their comments on your work would save a whole lot of hassle and make the site look more respectable to customers, the whole point after all, our spats not their business. Dooyoo would presumably still have a record of the original comment if it abusive so job done!
D - Dooyoo Lounge
I write a lot of dooyoo lounge reviews and ones that used to crown don't anymore, but no real reason given by dooyoo. These crowns cost dooyoo nothing but they just don't want to give them out these days. If I was dooyoo head honcho I would rapidly increase those crowns as a way to keep good writers on site, who may not be crowning elsewhere due to cutbacks. We are looking at three months to get a £50 cheque now for 95% of writers and if we want to discourage people pretending they have ten mobile phones and the amount of make up needed to make Jo Brand look hot to make easy money then this could be the way. Dooyoo would be surprised how many member get satisfaction from crowns. A lot more categories have been dropped into the dooyoo lounge of late and that is also lost revenue from popular categories. In August dooyoo crowned just three reviews in the lounge: Period Pains, Bread Recipes and Home Made Christmas Presents? Maybe I'm too blokey for Dooyoo Lounge anymore but Christmas in mid summer?? I was particularly peeved in the World Cup as I concentrated on loads of good footy reviews chasing crowns because dooyoo told us they would reward footy reviews. There was just one World Cup crown, that going to a guide. I still have the most dooyoo lounge crowns on the last five pages of crowns listed here but only three this year from nearly 100 reviews in that section.
E- Extra prizes and giveaways
Ciao seem to have no problem in running loads of competions. They have a product of the week competition, a monthly one on ciao café (dooyoo lounge), and external links to other competions. It keeps things competitive and writers on their toes ready to show off their talents, and you get great prizes, an Xbox 360 no less for the World Cup competition! Dooyoo, alas, give us 3500 miles for a review that may have taken all day to get right. I am currently the only dooyoo member in the top 25 crowners of all time not to get a crown of the day award. But I'm one of only five to get the review of the month award.
G - Guides
If I was the boss I would get rid of them all and hold elections for new ones .lol. In that way the best ones would be re-elected and it would feel democratic and wonderful and perhaps see some younger new talent get the gig. I doubt if there are many under-30 at the moment with one too many gentleman's penalty spots for comfort. Some of these kids know a dam site more than we do on all manner of things technical and it seems a missed opportunity. At least they would help break up the untouchable gang mentality that sometimes emanates from the guides here.
I - Images
Posting up pics to enhance ciao reviews is the best fun and they even give you ciao points for doing it! It helps to make your more 'subtle' points on reviews and you can be very silly too. Or you can just put up pictures of hot totty to get rates that way. I will wave my dooyoo wand and pictures will be allowed here!!!!!!
J - Justice!
I think we need an appeal panel of our piers so dooyoo and the guides aren't judge and jury. There's a lot of bullying going on right now on ciao and you don't want those guys doing that here. Certain members are all too powerful here and are hard to control sometimes. The worst ones have left but they could return any day. Ok, I couldn't think of a sensible J.
K - King of Dooyoo!
If you top the various crown lists in the various departments you should be more prominent on the site. Hogsflesh should have his own horror corner and Koshka her own travel agent. I know dooyoo had a spell where people who have reached various milestones went on the scrolling front page bit but I think we should be able to exploit our notoriety more so consumers can read more of our specialised reviews. Non guides that are contributing heavily to the site need more status to increase their miles.
L - Leniency
I fully agree with the two week ban for speed rating or copying. The site wouldn't exist if every word of every review was read and we have all nibbled a quote or black of stats or two to help bulk out our work. If we binned everyone for those misdemeanours then would there be anyone left? Dooyoo need the reviews and we need the rates. Admittedly behaving badly has cost me one too many crowns and accounts and you have to bend to get through life sometimes. I personally would deduct miles from members rather then throw them off though because this place is an addiction and that dumping hurts. As long as they produce original work and rate correctly everyone should be happy.
M - Message Board
We need an official dooyoo message board to put our concerns and ideas on and do some general official mixing at the same time, and also somewhere for our compliments and complaints and we need it to be linked on the community page. The private message system has helped to dilute public spats but you still feel you can't comment under reviews without censure. The private chat boards tend to be ego led affairs and often swamped by guides and truculent members who take things far too seriously - and can't wait to correct your spelling mistakes, teaching people like school kids. If it was policed by dooyoo it would be reasonably civil and dooyoo could write there to, communication the name of the game. The current internal system of complaint and abuse tends to favour the guides and those prominent members and if you do complain through the dooyoo abuse link the reply tends to usually make out it's your fault, or they don't reply, the same thing.
N - Nominations!
On ciao the reviews that win the diamonds (our crowns) are generally the ones that garner the most reciprocal 'excellent' and 'very useful' nominations, regardless of the quality or read. The 'big' members rule the roost and that's the way it works. You either go for diamonds or you don't. But on dooyoo the crown awarding has always been a bit of a mystery, regardless of the rules. To make it clearer I would list member's accrued nominations under all reviews to see how popular the review actually is so to help dooyoo with their crowning options. We can make the nominations anonymous so members can't reciprocally rate back. If crown awarding was more transparent under dooyoo rules we would all know who the influential nominators are and how roughly many 'noms' you need to crown, giving everyone a boost as we head into winter.
O - Openness
When I message certain guides or members I often get curt replies. Wouldn't life be fun if we could relax more here and break down the obvious hierarchies someway. Most members create a persona on dooyoo to get rates and some people seem to take that persona rather too seriously. I have learnt that the members who put their photo on their avatar bit are more likely to take offence than those who put playful pictures up, the latter able to distance themselves from any insults or criticism. I'm confused how people can be offended by the slightest little thing when we are often miles away from each other and have never met. One or two guides write on their profiles that they will report the slightest abuse of them, which is somewhat intimidating as what they interpret as abuse maybe simple banter or joshing. That type of attitude builds an atmosphere on site and we lose that grown up ability to interact. We are all intelligent people and should show respect to each other by giving a little like we would in the pub!!
P - Pink!
I know dooyoo wasn't green once (blue, I think) but isn't it time it was pink, reflecting the gender that most use it, be it writers, raters or external readers They say 70% of all purchases are made by women and the other 30% to get women. 70% of the dooyoo categories are guided by women and the girls write 70% of all reviews, the level 1 categories somewhat feminine in their appeal, most dooyoo volume coming from housewives, the retired and the unemployed, a bit like a county cricket crowd! But why kid ourselves it's an equal gender playing field guys! Its time to go pink because the girls are in control! But please, no glitter or Miley Cyrus spanglies!!!!
Q - Queen of dooyoo
Like the Prom Queens in America, every year we need a male and female star of dooyoo. Put your hand down Plip. They would have to have their photo on the front page and wear a crown and swimwear. Put your hand down Plip! I nominate Koshka, if just to see her strangle someone with her sash.lol.
R - Rates
Because dooyoo miles are hard to come by now for most we all have to consider entering dooyoo competitions to find that extra money. Bad idea! I tried my hand at last month's vacuum competition in 'Household', not usually where big boys like me hang out, and got slaughtered. I tried to be creative and funny with my entry to stand out like a soar thumb in a rubber hammer factor but was immediately shredded like an old sock going up the said vacuum, a sucker indeed. Once one member had SU'd me many sheep followed and I was quickly dispatched with vacuum dust in my hair, even getting one 'Not Useful, which I thought was rather outrageous for a competition entry. But, if you can't handle the heat then stay out of the kitchen reviewing...
S - Suggestions
Ciao have quite a rapid suggestion system where you actually create your own new suggestion. Pick a picture to and up it goes as you want it. You can chose to post it up there and than or wait for it to be Ok'd by cioa. If you post up there and then it won't go into the newest review list until ciao ok it and so you dot get many rates. But once you are sent an e-mail with a link it's the same as dooyoo's method. In that case why cant dooyooers have this option? I think it works very well and it still allows for dooyoo to delete the suggestion.
T - Text Formatting.
Many members are 'miffed' why dooyoo's text editor is so basic. We can't highlight text or pronounce its nuance with italics or under-lining. Surely that would help customers to enjoy our reviews more? Come on dooyoo lets make the investment on the server to keep up with ciao.
U - Unification
There are five dooyoo sites around Europe and so why not let our foreign writers who speak those languages post up there to. I understand that's currently banned but writers like Karimkha have made the effort to do battle with her English skills here and so she deserves the luxury of being allowed to write on the Spanish one. I believe on ciao you can cross - post on their European sites if your language skills are good enough.
V - Vengeful rating
I don't really have an issue with revenge rating as it's a payment after all. What I do have a problem is with tactical rating. I have 49 Not Usefuls and most spiteful and unfair I recall. The people who made them would probably agree with that. Until recently I only rated Very Useful and Useful (if it deserved it) and didn't rate churn. Now I rate churn because dooyoo told me to. Ciao have an off-topic abuse/button and that would also help on dooyoo. In fact five 'Not Useful's' given should automatically delete the review. It's all good stuff!
W - We Thank You
I have over 400 of them and I have discovered it's not a bad tally. External reads are clearly very important to dooyoo and so it will be interesting to tally the crowns list with the 'we thank you list'. I would definitely place that list on the community page under the newest crown list. Let's see who the real stars to the actual consumers here on dooyoo!
X - X marks the spot
Here is a fun idea. Once a week you can nominate one of your reviews for double rates by pressing a button when you post it up, and only when you post it up, no option to change your choice. It would be just like playing your Joker on 'It's a Knockout' and you would obviously put extra effort into this review and so chase rates with it. Just a thought!
Y - Young writer awards
I have seen some fabulous reviews from the younger writers here, our Dr Who obsessed girly an example of. How about a competition especially for them as they need the money most for university and future projects. The site is dominated by middle-aged and middle-class parents and many reviews can be samey.
Z - A-Z
Ciao have a miscellaneous section where you can put any other business, the 26 letters of the alphabet and 0-9 allowing flexibility with your anonymous stuff. It helps hoovers up any off-topic stuff in the wrong place and enables you to post up at weekends and bank holidays if you don't want to wait for ciao to add your new suggestions. Searching out general categories here to dump obscure work that you don't feel worthy of its own slot can take ages.
SO there it is and from my suggestions its quite clear Ciao are beating dooyoo right now and dooyoo turning into ciao, which means if the economy gets any worse a merger is on the cards...
For those of you who are wondering how I am writing this review; it is because I visited the site regularly a long time ago when the old design was present. I didn't have enough time on my hands to join the site, but checked back on it every now and then. After finally creating an account towards the end of January 2007, I was more than pleased to be signing up as it had changed so much! It just looks so much better and I love it compared to the old design.
The old design had the same colour schemes but wasn't nice-looking or as clear. Now, everything can be found in one place under the community page. You can now view your account on the side toolbar of the homepage when you log in. The site has been updated everywhere imaginable and has a modern look compared to the old one. The toolbars and whole design seems more 'bubbly' now in a modern way. The old design was a bit rusty and didn't look attractive. The shapes were square and boring and it had a boring look.
The whole site has changed around as well as the general look being updated. The new reviews page is much updated as well as the community page itself. You can now view much more information such as 'most reviews written, most reviews rated, most comments made, most crowned reviews' and more for the last 30 days or other options. Little extra options such as this make the site even better.
The suggestion feature has been updated and improved. Suggestions are now processed in a few days and they are quick and easy to submit. You are also now able to view comments to the side of the review when reading as well as rate it above this box. This is useful for when you scroll back up and may write a comment. It is also more visible if you were wondering where the ratings are. This is a real good bonus and very useful in my opinion.
There are countless things updated such as a page devoted to guides and co-guides. One of the recent updates now shows guides with a green tab under their picture and new members (30 days or less new) with an orange tab under their name. This is very useful and looks modern and works well. It enables you to easily see the guides and new members rather than checking out their profiles or just not knowing at all!
However, despite the up to date look and new features, the site redesign still isn't complete! I would love to have some kind of forums on the site, which it currently lacks! This would be a real bonus and would promote more discussions and more. The forum could have different titles such as 'Reviews, General, Off-Topic, Social' or something along those lines...just a few ideas there. I think many members would appreciate this rather than heading to Tooyoo to use the badly designed (sorry!) forums there.
Thanks for reading,
- Recon -
Well my amnesia's kicked in once again, I seem to have forgotten the sites actually been re-designed...then I remembered using this site at my former uni and remember I prefered certain things back then. The site's changed for both the better and the worse, the good and the bad are what we have to put up with I guess, though it's not the design I have the biggest actual problem with (I'll get onto that much later).
I do like the new "My reviews" section, looks much tidier and easier to read, so thank you dooyoo for this, it was needed and is the best part of the site design I seemed to miss. Also the reviews when people are reading them looks better now (I was pretty shocked again, by just how tidy this did actually look now).
However my first complain with the redesign is what made me realise it had be re-designed, it doesn't like my *^&%ing browser, it doesn't seem to allow you to rate a product (where you give a product stars) with Opera (instead just showing the word "image")*, which is basically making the site obselete for my prefered browser (which is sadly being discriminated against by Betfair and ESPN as well). Yes I do realise I can open I.E. Copy my review and put it on like that, but, well, I'm lazy and really can't be bothered, so it seems the only time I'm able to put reviews on here is when I have some time with my mums laptop (lucky you guys). With I.e. and Firefox working, wouldn't it be that difficult to make Opera work guys?
The second and more nerving complaint, which I know has been taken advantage of it the new reward system, which has seen an increase in poor reviews no doubt, even some of the writers I genuinely like to read reviews by have fallen into the trap of putting out lesser work for the rewards. I know dooyoo works via advertising revenue and as such the more reviews the more ads on, the more we make, but it seems to have seen a proliferation of vague reviews. I've seen a few people agree when I've rated them lower and basically said "I expect better from you", they all seem to agree that they know it's poor quality, but now quantity is rewarded who gives a *&^% about quality? Yeah I'm a bit of a hypocrite putting out a few lesser quality reviews myself recently, though I do have the defense I did a 10k review which means if I was to go into that detail in everything I wrote I might need a new set of fingers >_> (thats my defence and I stand by it).
Perhaps make the crowns really worth getting rather than quantity getting more, and less per each view (again a lot of people will just click VU rather than reading the damn thing...so mine are getting smaller >_>). I'm not sure, all I know is I'm not a huge fan of it.
*This may have been rectified for newer versions of Opera, as I'm still on 9.2 Beta.
I guess over the past couple of months Dooyoo has seen a couple of design changes, one to the way the site looks especially the review writing page and now the new review list and secondly there has been a change to the reward system. Personally although I like the new reward system it is rather too early to comment on it, (although plenty of people already have, myself included in comments) and to be honest any comments are rather naive in that they are much too early for people to fully assess the impact on the site especially in the long term.
The changes to the design of the site however have become quite well established (except the change this week to the new review list) so it is perhaps a suitable time to review them.
Initially I was not a fan of the new changes as it seemed to squash all of the text across to one side of the page and meant that reviews just seemed to go on and on, this is a big problem given the verbal diarriah that some members suffer from managing to churn out 1,800 words on the most banal of products. The thing is, a few months on and now that I have become used to the new layout the issues I had no longer exist, it is amazing what you get used to. Reviews are often still too wordy but if they are I'm more likely just to give up reading them and rate accordingly hence the odd useful on an 1,800 word epic.
In fact I do think that the new layout may have helped encourage some writers to be a bit more concise and focus on the product rather than the waffle and word count.
Now I know it is early days so I'm going back on what I said at the start of the review but the New Review list does not seem to do what it sets out to do and in fact gives more prominence to those who write loads, not a bad thing for me as I write a fair bit now but it does not solve the problem of reviews going off the list quickly. I still use the old list as a much better way of sorting out what I want to read. Still maybe in another few months we will be used to that as well.
I don't think anyone would deny that Dooyoo is in better shape today that it has been for years. For "old timers" such as me, who have been members of Dooyoo, in my case for over seven years, through the good times at the beginning and then the dark years of the early and middle Noughties, the current rebirth comes like the Spring at the end of a long, dark and seemingly never-ending Winter.
There are few changes that have been introduced in the last 18 months of which I could honestly disapprove although some have come as a bit of a shock at the time. As I enter my "declining years", all changes are difficult to absorb, especially when you simply can't find what you want or things don't do what you expect. However, I am the first to admit that in general things are moving in the right direction.
Not, that is, that everything is perfect. There are a few things that I would like to see changed and one of those actually harks back to the way things were back in the earliest days. It's a very simple matter. It relates to the order in which reviews appear within a member's profile. Specifically it relates to reviews that are changed by the member.
Back in the beginning of Dooyoo the order of reviews within a member's profile was according to the date of the last change made. The current order, date written, has been in effect now for a few years. Bear in mind, I am only talking about the order in the member's own profile, not the order of reviews in the New Reviews list. I would like to see a return to review order by date last changed in the member's profile and this is why.
From time to time I, and I suspect other members, revisit reviews previously written in the light of new information or subsequent experiences. In my case, of the 287 reviews I have written I have updated 24 reviews. In my case you can always tell which of my reviews I have revised because I always add "UPDATED - " to the beginning of the Title. If you can be bothered to scroll down my list you will find them.
And that's the point; how many readers bother to scroll on beyond maybe the first two or three pages? If you are a prolific writer, and I admit that I am not, despite the number of reviews under my belt, any changes to older reviews will soon disappear down the pile. And yet the update to a review may be very relevant. It may even be such as to change the opinion, previously formed, of a reader of that review to the writer's views.
Ordering the reviews by last changed date would bring to prominence any updated reviews for those of us who are fortunate enough to be regularly read. Frequent visitors may be inclined to revisit a review previously read where they see it popping up again at the top of the member's list.
My second improvement is related to this and makes use of what I consider to be the one single biggest and best improvement to Dooyoo in recent years; Messages.
Being aware that any changes I have made to reviews I have written may not become known to those who have previously read them, where the changes are of the nature that I would consider might affect the views of readers I have used the messaging system to notify all those who have rated my reviews (there appears to be no way of accessing the identities of those who read but do not rated) to let them know that a change of which they might want to be aware. Where the review has received a significant number of reads, this is a time-consuming affair. There have been occasions on which I have really wondered if I can be bothered. I have though.
The second improvement I would like to see would be to provide a facility to enable review writers to send a message to all readers of a review (including those who read but didn't rate; Dooyoo must know who they are) with a single action. I realise that this will not include reads by non-members but that is unavoidable.
The third improvement I would like to see is an official process for members to submit, review and vote on proposed improvements to Dooyoo. I'm sure most are improvements devised entirely by Dooyoo but many must also be submitted as request by members. I have certainly made Dooyoo aware of the above improvements that I would like to see. I realise that some are driven by the business requirements of Dooyoo and in this we obviously must appreciate that the business model must take priority as it clearly can affect the financial viability of the company.
However, I am sure that there are also improvements of usability that are of interest to members and, bearing in mind that Dooyoo undoubtedly has limited systems development resources, prioritising enhancements is certainly something on which members should rightly be allowed to have a view.
The fourth enhancement I would like to see would be the development of a member's bulletin board. The enhancement prioritising and voting system mentioned above, could be incorporated into just such a system. It would also allow for other activities of interest to members. I realise that there is already a category - dooyoo Messageboards and Groups in general - but this cannot really be considered a true bulletin board. Besides, did you know it existed? I didn't, until I started researching for this opinion. I'm sure most members don't as the last opinion posted in it was in 2002!
I am aware that there are a number of external websites that provide a forum for Dooyoo regulars. Review Writers Forum (www.reviewwritersforum.co.uk) is one and the dooyooers group on Facebook (www.facebook.com) is another, of which I am personally aware; I belong to both. However, it would be preferable to have just such a facility with Dooyoo itself. It should, of course, only be visible to members.
I'm sure that there will continue to be Dooyoo watchers who will only want to use a facility that is independent of Dooyoo but so long as such a feature is demonstrated to be free of interference or censorship, it will become well used. Who knows, maybe we will even be able to use it to organise that long overdue Dooyoo get-together!
The final enhancement I would like to see is one which has been long, long overdue; the removal of the restriction of only being allowed to write one review within any particular category. It's the reason why this review appears here in this category rather than in "Feedback and General Suggestions for dooyoo" although there is probably an argument that says that either category could be used in this case.
As it is, I have already written a review in this category, way back in 2001. Because of the restrictions addressed by my first request above, changing that opinion (which is the only thing it appears that you are permitted to do) would not bring it to the attention of members, for discussion. By the by, it seems that Dooyoo now classifies that opinion as an Express Review as it contains less than 150 words. Nevertheless, it doesn't appear in my list of Express Reviews; it appears in my Premium Reviews list!!!!
So, what do you think? I would be interested to hear. I don't know if they will carry any weight with Dooyoo, but you never know!