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Dont give the terrorists an inch or they will want a mile (The War Against Terrorism)

Mick-Gray

Member Name: Mick-Gray

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The War Against Terrorism

Date: 27/09/06 (164 review reads)
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Advantages: Preserve our democratic way of life

Disadvantages: it will be a long struggle

There have always been people who have been prepared to try and achieve their aims by terrorising others into submitting to their demands. History is full of such people, many of them achieved their aims because of the fear they created, or because governments or countries tried to appease them by compromise, or giving in totally to their demands. This has sent out a message to the fanatics that terrorism works, keep at it and we will bit by bit get what we want, even if it is not the wish of the majority.

At the moment the threat to the western world is coming from fanatical Muslim fundamentalists. I have listened to all the arguments by the appeasers as to why we are experiencing this threat. It is our foreign policy, our support for Israel, our greed for Middle Eastern oil, our war on Iraq and in Afghanistan, our treatment of Muslims, it goes on and on. They tell us we must pull our troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan we must alter our foreign policy to suit the terrorists and it will all be fine. What a load of codswallop.

When you point out to these people that the attack on the world trade centre in America happened before we sent troops to Afghanistan and before the war in Iraq they then say we invaded Iraq in the first Gulf war or that we support Israel against the Palestinians.

Well lets start with Palestine which seems to be (if you listen to the appeasers) the cause of the whole problem. Historically the area that is now Israel was Palestine. After the Second World War thousands of Jewish refugees who had suffered horrendous treatment during the war decided that they wanted to go to, what to them was, their historical homeland where they joined many Jewish people who still lived there. They decided rightly or wrongly that they wanted a Jewish state. This was violently opposed by the local Arab or Muslim population and I might add by the British who were in control of the area at the time. A full scale war broke out and this ended with the United Nations giving Israel a mandate to exist as a Jewish state. It can be argued that the Israel took the land from the Palestinians but then if you must go back into history didn’t the Muslims take it from the Jews in the first place.

Although the majority of the world accepted Israel as a state the Muslim world never did and vowed to destroy it. During the second failed attempt by the surrounding Muslim nations to wipe Israel from the face of the earth, Israel occupied large areas of land belonging to Egypt, Syria and Jordan, mainly at the time, as a buffer zone to protect their own citizens from attack. Rightly or wrongly they held on to some of this land and started to build settlements on it. After two failed attempts at all out war the fanatical percentage of the Muslim population decided to adopt terrorist tactics to achieve their aims and each time Israel retaliates they scream that they are being attacked and it is Israel that is at fault.

I don’t know what the answer to this problem is. I don’t think there is one. Israel now exists. Whether it should or shouldn’t have been formed is history and can’t be changed, but this will never be accepted by the fundamentalist Muslims, who will never cease to believe that the Land occupied by Israel should be a Muslim state.

So what do we do? I believe that Israel as a state now has the right to exist in peace and we therefore must oppose all attempts by terrorists or Muslim nations to attack it and prolong the problems of the Middle East.

I also believe we have a right to, or not to, hold these views without the fear of being blown up by people with different views.

The war in Iraq was not a war against Muslims nor was the war in Afghanistan. We went into Afghanistan to rid the world of a terrible fundamentalist and oppressive regime that was spawning, training and protecting terrorists and who were hell bent on destroying our way of life and making life for the majority of the people in Afghanistan nothing more than a miserable existence.

Iraq maybe is a bit more contentious for some people, as many believe we only went to war there because of oil. Whatever the real reason George Bush and Tony Blair had for this war, it has at least achieved the removal of one of the worlds worst Dictators since Hitler. If we had not gone to war in Iraq Sadam would still be there, killing and torturing thousands as he had done in the past. At least the people of Iraq now have the chance of a democratic society if we do not allow the terrorists to create civil war which will only let the fundamentalists take control.

So we must fight these terrorists where ever we find them and however we can. We must not surrender our democratic ideals and way of life in any way, shape or form to appease these people who if given an inch would want a mile. Compromise does not work if it is wrong it is wrong and if it is right it is right there are no half measures. The democratic way (Our way) is to vote out a government if we don’t agree with them not blow people up. If our views are not the majority views then protest peacefully, try to convince people by logical argument and if we can’t do that then hard luck the majority have had their say.

Although the problems from terrorism are coming only from fanatics and fundamentalists, there is a problem that the Muslim faith as a whole must overcome. That is the assumption that anything that this country does that affects another country is an attack upon the religion of that country. For example because we invaded Afghanistan or Iraq It was not an attack on the Muslim faith, it was rightly or wrongly an attack on the governments of Iraq and Afghanistan and that is all.

When the I.R.A. was bombing the U.K we didn't say we were under attack by catholics we said we were under attack by the IRA most of whom were catholics. We didn't rant to the pope and say it was his fault. If you are British then you are British whatever your religion. When we went to war with Argentina we weren't at war with Catholics we were at war with Argentina and the many Catholics in the British Armed forces did not see it as a war against their religion and were happy to serve their country.

As a British Citizen you have a right to agree or disagree with the policy of the government but just because the policy of the government is affecting people who happen to be of the same religion as you should not in itself shape your view. Your view should only be formed by whether you think that the policy is right or wrong regardless of the religion of the people it is affecting

Mick Gray

Summary: We must continue the fight against terrorism

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TheChocolateLady

- 05/11/06

Nicely written. Now, if people would only understand that you can't fight a "war" on terrorism, because terrorism doesn't play by the rules of "war". I live in Israel, and I do believe that this is the case. As for who deserves what in this area, I'm willing to give up as much land as possible to have peace (and the majority of Israelis agree with me on this), but the question is - do the Palestinians really want their own "State"? They could have had one over 50 years ago. More importantly, do they want really want peace? I believe that the average, every-day, run of the mill Palestinian does want peace and does want to live in their own country and begin building real, productive lives. The problem is the people in power would rather terrorise and opress their own people. The Fatah didn't give money to building infrastructure and so the people voted the Hamas in instead. Now the Hamas is doing the same thing and its the peaceful people who suffer, once again, making their lives even more miserable than before. What hope have they got? And without hope they'll continue to get people to terrorise and blow up Israeli citizens thinking that eventually it will work and they'll push Israel into the sea and get all of the land handed to them on a silver platter. But you know what? If you were pushed against the wall, with no hope in sight, wouldn't you fight back and even think that dying is better than living? That's what's in the minds of terrorists and until we figure out how to make their lives worth living, instead of finding death and destruction more attractive, terrorism will continue.
SticMan

- 12/10/06

My argument was that you can't go on who was their first as implementation of this would create anarchy across the globe and as often is stated, those who control the present control the past. There have always been Jews living in the land which is Israel and they have a right to live their. What nearly all people agree that Israel doesn't reserve the right to occupy other people's land. The conflict has promoted extemists from both sides, very few can claim to be innocent victims in this. For the likes of Islamic Jihad, Hamas, the Al-asqa martyr's brigade their was Jewish terrorists group before them in the form of Irgun and Stern Gang. Arabs have been butchering Jews just like Jews have been butchering Arabs, the circle of violence shows no end. The fact remains though that in places like Haifa the arab population (Both Muslims and Christians) was 98% and today it is just 4%, yet it is still potryed by some that these people 'voluntarily left' their homes and businesses to become refugees in neighbouring countries. A solution can done but there are nations such as USA and Iran who both have vested interests and exploit the situation.
dancomp

- 11/10/06

Sticman - The Jews were there first. That's not biblical interpretation, that's historic fact. The Caananites no longer exist and the Philistines came from Greece. Arabs were buchering Jews in the area while the British looked the other way long before the creation of the state of Israel. Iran, Syria and the fundamentalists don't want peace. The majority of Israelis do and the majority of Palestinians do. Thing is, the Israelis can voice support for such a process without being abducted, tortured or executed in the street after being publically denounced by their family at gunpoint. This is the operandus modi of Islamic Jihad, Hamas, the Al-asqa martyr's brigade and the PLO before them. Islamic fundamentalists will ALWAYS have an excuse for murder, does'nt matter what it is.

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