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      06.09.2010 18:56
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      brilliant

      This isa recent purchase after getting sick of my old dishwasher not doing it's job. The very best thing about this dishwasher is the utensils storage. instead of an annoying basket that takes up loads of space in the bottom, it has a unique slide out drawer at the top where everything slots in. This means that the utensils get washed much better and you can fit bigger pots in the bottom.

      It is also very quiet which is a plus with any white goods as I often try and put them on overnight to save money. The programmes are quite complicated but now i use the same one each time it is so easy.

      So far there are no complaints with this dishwasher. It cleans well and there is little drying to do afterwards. Lets face it no dishwasher will get plastics etc completely dry. I would recommend this to anone who needed a new dishwasher - they are expensive but worth it. My last dishwasher was a cheaper brand and it hardly lasted any time at all and never really washed properly. i bought this after reading a review in Which where the brand came 2nd best for dishwashers (the 1st brand had items that cost £700!!!)

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        11.08.2010 10:20

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        well worth the money spend as it appears to last forever..

        I have to say now that Bosch truely is a brand for home appliances that you can rely on, i've had my dishwasher now for nearly 3 years and just so long as i have it services once a year it continues to wash everything i through it perfect well.

        by service i mean replace the filters and run a rinse 3/4 times. i've only once had to call an engineer out and that turned out to be an problem with the plug instead of the dishwasher.

        i have a family of 4 that eat breakfast and dinner at home each weekday so it's heavily used(twice a week it's filled and run), i was expecting for the price that i would need to replace it after 2 years, however, here we are coming up to it's 4th anniversary with us and it's still going strong.

        One difference between this dish washer and others that i have used or owned I find that this actually managed to clean glasses without leaving the stains on the side of the or leaving them needing a rinse once you remove them.


        All in a tip top dishwasher that gives real value for money.

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        14.07.2010 20:25
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        regardless of the price this is a great dishwasher for the family

        When I was a kid I use to think that a dish washer was magic, I just thought that you put your plates in the dishwasher dirty and they come out clean with no problems, well now I'm older I know that is not the case, let me tell you a story.


        I had some friends over for a Sunday roast and it was great, after we had eaten we just sat there drinking wine and catching up, well when we finally got to clearing away the dishes we put them from the table to the dishwasher, put on a cycle and away it went, when it had finished there was still food stuck on the plate, I was later made aware that we needed to run them under the sink to loosen the tougher foods then put them in the dishwasher...doh!


        The Bosch Logixx SMS69L is all white in colour (the only other colour that is available is Silver) and the measurements are 85 (Height) x 61 (Width) x 60 (Depth), the front of the dishwasher is a very plain looking front with nothing that really grabs you or is flashy in any way, along the top in the middle is the handle that opens the dishwasher door with "Bosch" written on the hand grip and a digital display screen above the hand grip that tells you what program you are using on the dishwasher.


        There are quite a few programs to choose from that will suit your need including a quick wash, Pre-rinse (which I don't understand why you would have that option), Half load, Delay Timer Function- which allows you to set your dishwasher on a timer to run up to 19 hours after you set it and Half loads also The dishwasher baskets can be lifted or lowered depending on what you are washing, for example if you have bigger pots on the bottom basket then you lift the top basket higher, taller wine glasses in the top basket then you lower the top basket (a nice little feature not all dishwashers have), other features include- anti-flood device, a zone wash option, 3-1 detergent detector.
        For such a little dishwasher it provides such a powerful performance but not using powerful energy or water.



        This dishwasher is absolutely quiet and doesn't disrupt the silence if you are for example reading a book and further more the Bosch only uses 13 litres of water, yet it still gives you the power of a bigger model with a perfect performance for washing drying and energy saving, and is a lot better for the environment.


        You can load quite a fair bit into this dishwasher, even though it may look small you would be surprised how much stuff you could get in there if you put them in properly and not just put them in any old how, it states that you can put in a 12 place setting but if done correctly you can get in 14 and it will still clean effectively.
        While your dishwasher is on a cycle it will make you aware by informing you on the display screen at the front of what it's doing and how long it will take, There is also a function which reads "glass protection system in progress" don't be freaked out or worried, it's doing something to help glasses (now if it says glass smashing system in progress then you can panic).
        If you open the door during a cycle everything will stop, like a safety cut off valve that once you close the door again will start up, but while the door is open the display panel will tell you to close the door so it may resume cycle.



        You can get the Bosch Logixx SMS69L from:

        John Lewis £619.00
        Red Hill Appliance £512.00
        Electro Centre £ 497.95

        So as you can see they vary in places, but the usual price is around £450.00


        Final Thought

        I think this is a great Dishwasher and Bosch definitely live up to the reputation of being the best brand in their field, just remember that if you are going to wash dishes that have been sitting there for a while you might want to run it under the hot water so the residue comes of in the dishwasher.
        Being one of the best dishwashers out there it is a definite buy, it is a bit pricey but you can probably shop around and get it slightly cheaper but I don't think it will be by much.
        This really delivers the results that I want and expect from my dishwasher.
        I find that if you want plates to come out squeaky clean with no residue or anything from the food that was on there, then you would have to put the dishwasher on as soon as you put the plate in, and if the dishwasher is already empty and its only you that's eaten then your not going to turn it on for one plate are you?
        Only restaurants can fill up a dishwasher at the drop of a hat.
        For me this is 10/10

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        27.11.2008 22:05
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        An time-saver with a few imperfections

        Was there ever a more problematical appliance than the dishwasher? It has a virtually impossible job: washing brittle objects which can't be moved during the process and having to deal with food residue as well as water and detergent. It is accused of not being able to wash half the dishes and those it does are not properly washed. It takes forever to do a load. It's noisy and needs constant injections of fluids and powders like some sickly elderly relative. Add to this the high initial outlay and it's a wonder anyone bothers. Indeed, many don't. Dishwasher ownership is about 1 in 4, lower than any of the other white goods. I used to wonder if I could dispense with my machine next time it broke down. Then it did, and I (re)discovered my answer. Unless you convert to paper plates, washing-up is a continual chore with no redeeming features whatsoever. I am convinced that if we didn't have to wash up we could have cured all the major diseases by now and be well on the way to sorting out global warming. Talking of which, using a dishwasher is actually environmentally friendly, but more of that later.

        So there I was, dishwasher defunct, or reparable only for an eye-watering sum, and soon persuaded I needed a replacement. Enter, to a fanfare of trumpets and sighs of relief, the Bosch SMS69L. Seven years after my previous dishwasher purchase, had the technology improved? Let's consider the problems I described above.

        1. Noise. One thing that has been obvious as I moved through the years and models is the noise reduction. I thought my previous one (a Miele) was the tops, but this is better. It is simply barely noticeable, a background hum that merges with the other ambient household noise like PC hard drives and the central heating boiler. It's quieter than my fan oven. Bosch says it operates at 40 decibels, less than normal conversation. I believe it.

        2. Does it wash all the dishes? Yes, in theory, if they fit in the machine and are not specifically non-dishwasher proof. In practice, all models recommend against crystal, wooden handles, hand painted ceramics and silver. Personally I would add to that non-stick pans. Then there is the vexed question of glassware. Over the years I found out the hard way that dishwashers will eventually make your glasses go cloudy. In the short term glasses will emerge looking sparkly clean, like the images on many dishwasher products, but gradually they cloud over, like a British summer day. You can either accept this, and replace your glasses every 6 - 12 months, or add them to the pile of to-be-hand-washed.

        So how does this machine do? It has a glass protection system, but mark this. I didn't know it had one until it was in and operating. The digital read-out informs me at every full wash cycle that the glass protection system is in operation. Despite having researched this model and read the instruction booklet before using it (note that, chaps) this was the first I'd heard of it. Internet searching has since come up with nothing to say what it is and how it works. After several months the glasses still "ting" with sparkle. If it works long term then this alone would be a reason for selecting this model. But why is Bosch so coy about it?

        3. Does it wash the dishes properly? No. Most of the dishes are fine most of the time, and it's better than my previous model. Dinner plates and cutlery are a problem. I am far from being ultra-fussy, but even I have to pull out items for further soaking and hand washing. I don't expect it to clean burnt on residue, but surely cleaning plates and knives is what it's for.

        4. Fluids and powders. No advance on the add detergent every time, plus rinse aid and salt when needed scenario. Tablets, liquid and powder are all OK. What is new, is the ability to pre-set the rinse aid and salt levels to suit your water hardness. Living in a hard water area, I now find that I'm topping up with rinse aid and salt far more often than before. Will this prolong the life of the machine and ensure better results for longer? We'll see. I'll get back to you in five years.

        5. Programme length. There are plenty of programmes, ranging from the auto intensive to express with a pre-rinse option. Times vary from 30 minutes to 2.5 hours so if you're in a hurry it's back to the washing-up bowl. But that's not the point. You set it going and forget about it while you do something more rewarding (like writing consumer reviews). You can even programme it to start at a particular time. Programme timings are also indicative rather than prescriptive. The model has some clever sensors which measure the turbidity of the rinsing water to sense how much cleaning is still required, and adjusts the timings accordingly. So if your plates only have a few crumbs on them the same programme will take less time than if it's trying to deal with congealed curry leftovers.

        6. High initial outlay. This is one of the top end Logixx range and the price is around £425. Obviously it's worth shopping around. Generally I think you get what you pay for with dishwashers and with the complexity of their insides it's worth paying as much as you can afford.


        There are other features worth mentioning although some come in the "bells and whistles" category, and would not necessarily affect your purchasing decision. Racks are varied and adjustable so you should be able to fit any combination of dishes. Having had a cutlery tray, as opposed to a box, in my previous model I was keen to have one again but couldn't find one in the Bosch range - until I opened the machine! Another thing they kept quiet about! Honestly, somebody needs to talk to their marketing department.

        The control panel is neatly tucked away inside the door giving a smooth uncluttered front. The finger tip controls emit a beep to let you know they've received your instructions and will now get on with things. Also in the panel are warning lights if salt or rinse aid need to be topped up. I would rather these were more prominent as it's quite easy to set it going without noticing one of them is on. What's that red light, I thought the first time I noticed it, and how long has it been on?

        Once it's going your machine will message you. Admittedly its conversation is limited to what it's doing, how long it's going to take and the fact that it's protecting your glassware, all in a digital read-out in a small panel. If you open the door while in operation it gets a little tetchy and tells you to close it. If this repetitive "aren't I a clever machine" spiel drives you crazy you can turn it off.

        Other programmable features include half load, intensive zone and hygiene extra. Intensive zone is useful as you can put some really dirty stuff in the bottom and it gets more of a going over from the lower spray arms than the top layer. Hygiene extra gives a hotter rinse if you want items to be squeaky clean, like chopping boards or baby bottles. All the dirt has to go somewhere, but the three levels of filters (coarse, fine and micro) are easy to disassemble, clean and reassemble.

        Of course it's white, but is it green? The water industry likes dishwashers as the more efficient modern appliances use less water than washing up by hand. This model's clever sensors detect turbidity, as I said above, and if the water's clean enough it gets re-used for rinsing. The variety of programmes means temperature and water volume can be controlled to suit the load, i.e. no overkill. With delayed programming you can take advantage of cheaper energy at night (and the noise won't keep you awake), and it's got a heat exchanger to help heat the water. It is, not surprisingly, recommended by the Energy Savings Trust.

        So I think 4 stars for this. It wins on quietness, programme range, looks and energy efficiency; it loses on price and aspects of its performance. Less development needs to be put into features like hygiene extra and digital read-outs, and more into the basic cleaning operation. But on the whole I wouldn't be without one, and I'm getting along fine with this particular model. I wonder if I could teach it to hoover?

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          19.11.2008 01:36
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          My Bosch can handle the whole family!

          One of the little creature comforts of the modern life I really appreciate, is having a dishwasher. It is just so nice to be able to pack all those dirty plates away, shut a door, press a button and forget about it.

          I had a slimline dishwasher before, but felt it was just never enough to handle the family's dishes, and invested in the Bosch Logixx SMS69L. This is a up to 14 place setiing dishwasher, and can certainly handle a lot.

          The dishwasher is white or silver in colour, frontloading, and has the following dimensions: (H)84.5 x (W)60.0 x (D)60.0. I cant comment on the ease of installation, as that is the bit I normally leave over to hubby, but he reported no difficulties (so I will take his word for that).

          The dishwasher has a LCD Control panel, that you control by light touch only, and I found it easy to select the necessary programmes, and was soon able to get a hang of it.
          The dishwasher has 6 programmes, including a pre-rinse, quick wash (29 minute), and a half load, and can wash at 5 different temperatures.

          What impressed me a lot was the absolute silence at which it operates. Furtehrmore the space is obviously remarkable as well. You have what they call the Vario drawer, in which you place cutlery, and smaller items. It takes a few more seconds to spread them out, as compared to my old washer where I just popped it in a standup basket. It has the 3 step Rackmatic height adjustable upper basket, and takes smaller plates in the upper and bigger plates in the lower basket.

          It also has other unique features such as a 1-24 hour time delay, a special anti-flood device as a safety feature, a zone wash option and an auto 3in1 detergent detector (which means it adjusts the temperature throughout the cycle to give you optimum activation of the detergents.

          It is also energy rating A, which is important in these credit crunch days. Furthermore it is also A reated in wash and dry performance.

          I am very impressed with the perfromance of this dishwasher. It washes extremely well, and dries just as I would hope a dishwashe to do. You can pack away the dishes straight from the washer. I have found that even the more grubby oven dishes were not much of a challenge, but I wold recommend giving them a bit of a rinse beforehand. Add to that the space inside, and the silence at which it operates, and this really is a fantastic alrround dishwasher!

          It retails at around £420 (bit more ofr the silver finish), but shop around as I have now seen it for lower deals.

          This is just the best gift any busy mom can hope for!

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