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      10.10.2001 15:57
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      The card was easy to install and set up and the software easy to use, but somewhat cumbersome. I have my personal doubts as to the quality of either the software or the hardware in this combination. My reservations about the card are due to the fact that YES I wanted hardware playback of DVD`s and YES I wanted a TV Tuner and YES I wanted video capturing facilities. However, the TV Tuner I would rate O.K., that DVD quality is excellent, the video capturing is awful! Countless times have I tried to capture home video movies to edit them using a video editor, only to find some problem with the capture later on in the editing process. Either the picture quality would suffer, the sound quality would suffer or the video capture file would end up in a format that could not be read by the video editor. I found this extremely frustating. There are later updates to the software on ATI`s web site. I tried the new software out, but found other problems with it, and gave up on it. The driver that came on the CD seemed to have problems as well. It would lock up the system completely when trying to render certain graphics. I installed a later driver from ATI website and found that the driver was leaving trails behind it when I moved the mouse around the screen. I finally put yet another driver in and so far it`s O.K. This card is good, but only if you plan on not using it for any serious video capturing.

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        13.08.2001 06:29
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        The ATI All-In-Wonder 128 is, as the title suggests, an all-in-one card for 2D, 3D, MPEG decoding (DVD etc.), TV viewing, video capturing and TV output. This model is the AGP version, but there is also a PCI version available. The card comes with a small breakout box which provides video and audio input connectors only. The breakout box basically allows you to plug in your cables elsewhere from the back of the PC, which is useful if you do this regularly. TV aerial input and TV output connections are at the back of the card, however. This can be quite annoying which you want to change the cables around. Other cards such as the Matrox Marvel G400 provide all such connectors on the breakout box. The card is supplied with display drivers for Windows 98/ME and Windows 2000. Capturing is ONLY supported in WIndows 98/ME. It is impossible to capture in Windows 2000. This is fairly typical of cards in this class, but is very annoying. It's also supplied with multimedia software which allows you to watch TV, record video, play DVDs, etc. The DVD software is usable but other software such as WinDVD offer much more features and playback quality. The video input quality is decent. It isn't quite as sharp as that provided by competing products but it is good enough for video capturing. However, I found it impossible to use the TV aerial input (PAL UK). The tuner software simply didn't tune in accurately enough, and there was no fine tuning control at all. The resultant picture was far too scrambled to be watchable. Capturing capabilities are quite extensive. You can capture to AVI, MPEG-1 or MPEG-2 all in real time. You should note that the ATI All-In-Wonder is the only card capable of capturing to full-resolution MPEG-2 in this price category. Compression is software-only, so the quality is completely dependant on your CPU speed. On a P3-600, I was able to achieve medium quality. The LSX codec used by the software is one
        of the worst for artifacts, so during motion especially there are quite a lot of artifacts in the encoded picture. This is fine for basic timeshifting of TV or amateur video capturing, but if quality is important you should use an AVI software codec, which isn't provided with the card. The supplied software does not handle dropped frames at all, so you'll simply end up with audio desyncronisation. As for TV output, this is another feature that I found to be unusable. The software drivers would always detect the TV standard incorrectly, meaning I could only achieve a fuzzy black and white picture, since it is outputting the wrong TV standard. This is unacceptable and means you can't watch DVDs etc. on your TV, or record your video captures back to tape. I wrestled with the software for hours on this problem but was unable to resolve it. 2D quality is actually very good. There were no glitches that I could discover, unlike cards by manufacturers such as Matrox. DVD playback quality is exceptional, though I couldn't watch them on TV. 3D performance is certainly dated now. The card is based on the Rage 128 chipset, which is 2 generations old. If this is important, you'd be better off getting newer models such as the All-In-Wonder Radeon, which are more expensive but provide much faster 3D. The multimedia centre software does contain many bugs which can result in unusable video or corrupt streams etc. For most bugs there are workarounds, but this is typical of the overall quality of the software. It seems rushed out to retail before the drivers/software were ready. ATI have provided very little in the way of software updates. The updates they did release failed to address any of the problems I experienced. E-mails to their support team were simply ignored. Overall, this is a fairly decent card for those new to video capturing. I would not recommend it for a general purpose card, where TV viewing/output or f
        ast 3D is required. However, if you need a cheap way to get into video capturing, and you are prepared to spend some time working around the software bugs, this could be for you.

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          15.01.2001 08:38
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          The ATI All-In-Wonder is not the answer for someone who wants the absolute best 3D and 2D graphics. It's not the answer for someone who wants the absolute best video capture card or tv tuner either. However, if someone wants an affordable card that will do a very good job in each of these areas, then this is most definitely the card for you. 3D and 2D Graphics Now, I will not try to pretend to be an expert when it comes to graphics cards because I'm not. I won't be able to quote framerates and pixels per second and all of those other stats. But, what I can tell you about this card's video rendering ability is that it does a solid job on 3D first person perspective games such as Doom and Quake as well as 3D sports titles like NHL 2000 and FIFA 2000. The 2D graphics look great in games such as Diablo. I have never experienced any difficulty in gameplay due to poor graphics or a slowness in rendering the scenes. The pictures have always been sharp and crisp. For me, that means that this card is doing its job. Video Capture This is actually the card's strong suit, in my opinion. You are able to capture straight to Mpeg-1 or even Mpeg-2 using the video capture software provided. Only occassionally has the video and audio streams gone out of sync during a capture. This generally happens when recording from a videotape. When recording from a live source such as a camcorder or cable television, this does a fine job of maintaining picture quality and keeping the audio and video streams in sync. The only thing I don't like about its capture abilities is that the video tends to be a bit "washed out" and this is a problem that can't be resolved by tinkering with the tint and saturation color controls. It's just a limitation of the card. Secondly, the mpoeg-2 video stream that you capture is not compliant with svcd (super video cd) standards. So, if you are trying to create svcds, you ha
          ve to use demultiplexing and multiplexing software to create a valid mpeg-2 stream for creation of svcds. Still, I shouldn't complain because the other video cards on the market that offer mpeg-2 capture are much, much more expensive. They generally cost 600 pounds or more! TV Tuner The tv tuner capabilities of this card are solid. I would say it is comparable to every other tv tuner card I have seen in use with no real distinguishing features. The only aspect of the tv tuner that I do not like at all is the parental control lock feature. I have tried like heck to disable this thing and can't get rid of it. What it does, is it puts a parental block on all channels unless you enter the correct password to unlock those channels. It's supposed to remember and save the password for the channels that you want unlocked, but it doesn't always do this for me. It's a minor annoyance, but one that I thought I should mention. Overall In conclusion, buy this card if you want the ability to play 3D and 2D games, do video capture, and watch tv on your computer, and don't need it to do any one of these three things exceptionally well. This is a great card with many different features at an affordable price for the slightly above average computer enthusiast. I have received countless hours of enjoyment from mine and I am sure you will, too.

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          06.08.2000 16:01

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          I was looking for anew graphics card and then I walked along the isle in PC World and came across the new batch of ATI cards. All in wonder is called this because not only does it act as your video card, but it can handle DVD playback, and has a built in TV tuner, and it can record your favourite clips from the television. But for those budding gamers who the graphics card was meant for in the first place the graphical performance doesn't live up to its competition. The other features of the card are ok though. Perasonally if i was after performance graphically and for a cheap card i would go for the TNT 2 Ultra.

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          29.07.2000 22:20

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          This is one of the slowest cards I have ever seen. It is even slower that the AGP version(impossible). Unsurprisingly, it is very slow (keep up the good work ATI), with only16mb of memory and running at only 300mhz. It's upside is that it includes a TV tuner and a TV output, allowing you to watch TV on your PC. However, the Voodoo 3 3500 TV has a TV tuner and output as well, but runs much faster. This card is even outperformed by a Voodoo 2. This card is a waste of money.

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          29.07.2000 16:54

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          I think a lot of people have wondered, can you get any worse than the All-in-wonder 32mb. This card answers that question. Unsurprisingly, it is very slow (ATi, what do you expect), with only 16mb of memory and running at only 300mhz. It's upside is that it includes a TV tuner and a TV output, allowing you to watch TV on your PC. However, the Voodoo 3 3500 TV has a TV tuner and output as well, but runs much faster.

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          22.07.2000 17:41

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          Weighing in at the serious money end of the market, this is, at the moment, ATI's flagship product. Unsurprisingly, it is very slow and expensive, with only 32mb of memory and running at only 300mhz. It's upside is that it includes a TV tuner and a TV output, allowing you to watch TV on your PC. However, the Voodoo 3 3500 TV has a TV tuner and output as well, but runs much faster. For £195 for the Voodoo instead of £189. This card is a waste of money. It really should be called All-in-Bin!

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          22.07.2000 17:37

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          Weighing in at the serious money end of the market, this is, at the moment, ATI's flagship product. Unsurprisingly, it is very slow and expensive, with only 32mb of memory and running at only 300mhz. It's upside is that it includes a TV tuner and a TV output, allowing you to watch TV on your PC. However, the Voodoo 3 3500 TV has a TV tuner and output as well, but runs much faster. For £195 for the Voodoo instead of £189, this card is a waste of money. It really should be called All-in-Bin!

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          04.07.2000 17:18
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          I just got this for my birthday and it rocks! DVD playback is so smooth, I can even run other apps now without dropping a frame! TV Tuner is really handy for me, since I am a university student with limited room. The picture looks a tad bit better then a real TV. I like how ATI has everything nice and tightly intergrated together. Makes switching from app to app easier! I love this card. Definately recommend it if you want a card that can do everything!

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            01.07.2000 00:47

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            If you're going to play on your PC, why limit yourself? Besides gaming, you can watch television or DVDs, and even do a little video editing. ATI's All-in-Wonder 128 AGP graphics board supplies everything you need for a full-scale entertainment center, except the La-Z-Boy and the salty snack foods. Whopping Number of Features Most graphics cards are focused on gamers, but the All-in-Wonder 128 AGP is more than just 3D--it's everything. There's a TV tuner that gives you thumbnail channel selection, a zoom capability, and a timer for scheduling your favorite shows. Want video? With the All-in-Wonder's Digital VCR, you can capture TV video and compress it to your hard drive in real time, and the onboard DVD lets you play full-screen DVD on your computer monitor. There's also a TV-out port, so you can bring TV and games to a bigger screen. To top it off, the All-in-Wonder is compatible with Microsoft's WebTV for Windows, so you can bring interactive Web information into your system along with TV signals. Same Chip, Similar Performance Then there's 3D graphics. The All-in-Wonder contains the Rage 128 graphics chip, the same chip found in ATI's Rage Fury board. The Rage 128 chip has everything we love in a 3D card, including single-pass multitexturing, twin cache architecture, AGP texturing, and true-color, 32-bit rendering. This translates to fast frame rates, smooth images, and a maximum resolution of 1,920 by 1,200. Despite the All-in-Wonder's full load of features, it maintains the chip's speed. The All-in-Wonder 128 AGP and the Rage Fury graphics boards share almost identical 3D performance, with 44 frames per second (fps) and 44.5 fps, respectively. Their 2D rates are almost identical, as well. But if you buy the All-in-Wonder 128 AGP expecting numbers matching those of Diamond's much cheaper Stealth III S540, you may be disappointed. For all you get with the All-in-Wonder 128
            AGP, its $199 price tag isn't so bad. If you're a gamer first, you may want to spring instead for a cheaper, faster, 3D-only card. But if you want the whole enchilada, the All-in-Wonder 128 AGP is all you need for a full range of video options on your PC.

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            16.06.2000 22:38
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            Some days ago I bought the ATI All in wonder 128 with 32 MB on board. Before I informed myself at ATI's homepage and was surprised by the complete Information over there. This surprise was continued when I opened the box with the board inside. But to the opposite. ATI instructs you within two pages how to connect their board to your computer. Two more pages will explain the software. ATI responsibles may not know that sometimes the installation of a board will be acompanied by a lot of problems and bugs. Through my ATI was AGP and I had a PCI board before I had to change settings in BIOS but of cause there was no notice in the manual about this point. So it took me at least more than one our to install the board and find out the problem. There is no sence to link you towards the homepage if the computer will not restart. At least for the hardware installation there should be some troubleshooting. Finally I was successfull and I have to admit the board is a real shot. It´s fast and really cool. No stacking in Video or DVD, included TV tuner, Video Editor, Video CD-Player and DVD-Player are installed through the software. Ulead 3.0 Videoeditor software is added aslo as Ulead 3D 2.5.

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