This card rules, well, of course it isn`t as good as the GeForce3, or even some other brands of the GeForce2 GTS, but at this price, it is really a graphics card worth getting. This card will definitely boost your frame rates and enhance your gaming experience. For those keen overclockers out there, of course, there is room for some tweaks here and there. This product is indeed a good investment, for the next two years , to say the least. Although GeForce3 is out, there`s only a handful of games which fully utilises DX8 and other technology that comes with the GeForce3. And the price... until then, this card would suite all your gaming needs. Definitely one of the best offers at Dabs currently.
I would rate the Geforce 2 MX cards as acceptable to those on a budget. The Geforce 2 MX belongs to the Geforce 2 family of AGP-based chipsets made by the Nvidia company and there are many different card manufacturers using it. It's basically similar to it's bigger brothers within the GF2 range: MX 400; GTS; Pro, Ultra and Ti. The most prominent difference is it's lower core and memory speeds. So you can see that you're getting something special in terms of performance that has been down rated for the budget buyer. Which is exactly where this card this aimed. The MX 400 version has the same chipset but has 64MB of RAM instead of 32. It's the one to go for. http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?PAGE=geforce2mx Some cards also come with a TV-out option for a little extra outlay..worth investigating if you have a large TV projection unit, but the image can flicker quite annoyingly on normal TV's. The latest update to the GF2 line is the addition of a PCI version, although you'd need a fast CPU to make good use of it such as a K6-2 550. In a fast-moving world such technology has a limited life-span, so you shouldn't be paying over the odds for this card because it's now been superseded by the GF3 and GF4 family (especially the GF4 MX 460). Many shops will still try and rip you off, so be careful! So what are the drawbacks? There are a couple of pitfalls to look out for when any Nvidia-based card. Firstly, some manufacturers don't adhere to the Nvidia reference design and as such there have been picture quality issues, as mentioned on the Tom's Hardware Guide web site. Companies such as Matrox offer stricter quality control and as such guarantee a pristine image instead of an acceptable one. Secondly (and this applies especially to gamers), the performance of the GF2 MX will take a hit when you try and run games at 1024 x 768 or higher; regardless of CPU, the band
width of such cards imposes a limit to how much data you can throw around a 3D scene. Hence, if you upgrade your CPU from say a 1.6GHz Athlon to a 2GHz one you will see little benefit. Consequently the next model - the GF2 GTS - will offer DOUBLE the 3D performance of the MX and really comes into play at these higher resolutions. The MX card does scale adequately, but needs a decent CPU like a PIII to keep the frame rates high. Socket 7 systems are better suited to Voodoo cards. Thirdly, a few months ago the price of the GF2 MX cards dropped even lower because of a change in it's design; there is a variant called the MX 200 that uses 64-bit memory instead of the normal 128-bit and as such there is a performance hit. This can be confusing because the buyer would presume an MX 200 to be faster than an MX! So just to summarize, from worst to best: GF2 MX 200 GF2 MX GF2 MX 400 That's not to say the performance of the GF 2 MX is slow. It isn't, but for gamers with brand new 17" monitors and fast CPU's, if you're wondering why your games are sluggish at high resolutions then this is the weak chain in the system. I have always used Nvidia-based cards including the GF2 MX because of their performance and support. They're cheap and do the job they set out to do. Check the back of the box when thinking about buying that game and see what it requires in the graphics department - most will happily recommend a GF2 MX or better, for the time being..
If you are the sort of person that wants a decent upgrade that will not need to be replaced for a few years, then this card could be for you. I found that with my previous graphics card (a measily 8mb) I had huge problems with games such as Max Payne which demanded a high spec graphics card. However now with this card the games run like a dream at the highest settings (possibly because the engine delivers processing power of upto 20 million triangles per second to the mainstream and fillrates of upto 700 megatexels per second)!!! There is not a chance in hell of the graphics stuttering and I am constantly left amazed at the sites that this card can produce. The only problem that I have found with this card is that it has lead me to neglect my social life: SO BEWARE, YOUR FRIENDS MAY SUFFER AS YOUR SOCIAL LIFE TAKES SECOND PLACE TO YOUR GAMING EXPERIENCES!
Graphics cards, for some reason, suffer more than almost any other piece of PC kit from snobbery. Perhaps it's the fact that what they do is so immediately apparent, but it's still startling to see the frequency with which questions on message boards and newsgroups about what card would be OK for some middle-ranking PC game are met with a vehement denial that anything less than a top of the range Whizz Bang Ultra Wonder Super Card will be any use at all. This, of course, is arrant nonsense, as the example of nVidia's excellent GeForce 2 MX card shows - and a good thing too, as most of the people who go on about those high-powered cards are Americans, who seem not to realise that the price difference between the two sides of the Atlantic is frightening, with the bad old days of pound-dollar parity alive and well. Within this basic model designation, there are a few different cards (all the ones I've seen recently are for AGP slots, though I believe there are one or two PCI cards still in production), but the thing that really matters is to get a 64MB one rather than a 32MB one, as increasing the amount of texture memory can actually make a noticeable difference in a game's performance, rather than just making the odd pixel a bit sharper. I have a GF2 MX400 64MB, and am very pleased indeed with it. Installing the thing is simplicity itself - though of course you will need to open up the case of your PC. This is something many people shy away from, but in fact it's usually much easier than you think, and can save a fortune in technician callout costs, provided that you take a few simple precautions, the most obvious of which is to unplug the thing from the mains. I do mean unplug, by the way, *not* just switch off - despite what a few guides say, it's just too risky - mains switches are not totally reliable, and you really don't want to take a chance like that. Having said that, generally your PC is at more risk from st
ray electricity (of the static kind) than you are, so it's a good idea to wear an antistatic wristband (a proper one, with a 1 MegaOhm resistor incorporated to prevent sparking). Find the AGP slot on your motherboard (it's big and brown), and unscrew the holding plate - it's probably a Philips thread. Then - *carefully!* - pull the original card up and out, holding it by the edges away from any contacts, and taking care not to drop anything - especially screws! - onto the motherboard. Put it away - not resting precariously on the edge of the desk so any false move will send it crashing to the floor, oh no indeed, who would do a stupid thing like that? <cough> Then, and only then, remove your new card from its antistatic packaging. Line up the card with the AGP slot, and gently push downwards (you'll probably have to rock it gently back and forth - on no account should you force it). Use the screw you removed from the previous card to tighten up this one, replace the back, plug everything back in and switch on. Windows will sense the new card, and prompt you to insert your driver disc at intervals. You'll probably have to reboot then, and ta-da! You now have a new GeForce 2! One minor problem you may well come across in the early days of using the GF2 concerns games which run under DirectX or OpenGL. A known "issue" (to use the euphemism) with these cards is that, out of the box, such games only run at a 60Hz refresh rate, which looks horribly flickery. The solution to such problems is the free "nVidia refresh rate fix", available from several unofficial sites (though these change frequently, so I haven't included a URL - find it via Google). This should allow you to set the refresh rate to something a bit more comfortable - 85Hz is a good setting that will work on any decent monitor. (**Update** - Del_Boy has pointed out in the comments that this problem only applies to the "NT" line
[ie Win2000, WinXP] and not to Win9x systems, so you might well not need the refresh rate fix at all.) Of course, this is not the newest card in the world, and you should not expect all the latest games to run silky smooth at 1600x1200 in 32-bit colour with everything turned up. Let's face it, though - do you really *need* such graphical lusciousness to enjoy your gaming? No, you don't - in the vast majority of cases, 800x600, or at most 1024x768, is quite enough for a satisfying experience, and at such settings, you shouldn't have any problem with even demanding games such as NASCAR Racing 2002 - in fact, even the hardcore flight sim IL-2 Sturmovik, renowned for its high system requirements, will work quite acceptably with the 64 meg version of this card providing you have a fast processor (1.5 GHz or so). Oh, yes, I suppose I'd better slip in a mention of Grand Prix Legends somewhere, so here goes: it works perfectlywith the Direct3D patch. Clear, bright and smooth, and never misses a beat. Lovely stuff. Of course, the main reason you're likely to be interested in a card that is by now fairly long in the tooth is its value for money - and here the GF2MX can only be rated excellent. If you pay more than about £50 for this card then you've been ripped off, frankly - www.dabs.com will do you one for this, and they're widely available second-hand on eBay for considerably less than that. At this price, this card is stunningly good value, and considering the fact that pretty much any game available now will run well with it, and that it is more or less universally supported, you probably can't do better in terms of power per pound than to give your ailing PC a life-giving GF2 injection. (Note: I've only answered the multiple choice questions that are applicable, and I can't work out what "delivery size" is supposed to mean anyway!)
First of all there are ordinary graphics cards, then there is the GeForce range of cards, which is by and large, regarded a cut above the rest, and in my opinion, exactly so. I had purchased a new computer last year, upgrading my ageing PII 200 for a spanking PIII 800 and was extremely happy with the system I had. It came equipped with an ATI Rage 128 graphics card and I was happy with this set-up. However a computer friend of mine said that I was seriously under powering my machine with said card and recommended that I should buy a Geforce 2 AGI c. Costing anything between £10-£50, this card is serious value for money, and there is enough flexibility on the MX range to suite most needs, with 32Mb and 64Mb version coming in SDR and DDR flavours depending on your needs, obviously though, this is reflected in the price range. Being a card of this type of value, there are little extra ‘freebies’ that you get with some of the high end cards, such as free games etc, but if you really wanted those games, you could easily buy them with the money you will save when buying one of these cards. **Technical gibberish** Running at a core speed of 175Mhz, this cards is also incredibly easy to ‘overclock’ and squeeze some extra performance. By simply adding a registry hack (very simple to do, did it myself in a matter of 30 seconds) or by downloading a registry patch, you will get an over clocking slider added to the device properties in windows, and you8 can increase the running speed of the core clock of the card to in excess of 200Mhz, without any extra cooling or other adverse effects. Again, you can take it further than this, but some extra cooling would be STRONGLY advise din this instance. Further to this, you can also up the speed the onboard memory runs at, to gain some extra performance, its really an issue of trial-and-error in order to see what is the best your system will allow you to run at. One thing to point out thoug
h, is that over clocking could well invalidate your warranty on the card, and is not something that is done without a little risk, so I’d advise anyone thinking of doing so to do a little at a time and take great care in doing so. For the novice this is a piss-fart easy card to fit, as the actual removal/installation of graphics card can be an act, which can produce much horror and anxiety to the novice computer user – it still produces fear with me, even though I consider myself quite adapt at things like it. I was always scared sh*tless that I would end up breaking my card or even frying the entire computer with static. The installation CD also includes a clearly written procedure on how to de-install previous graphic card drivers and how best to set up your PC for installation of the Geforce 2 MX card. In terms of buying advice, I would advise anyone to hang on a little. The GeForce 4mx has been released costing something £150 and will no doubt cause the price of other) cards. This card is great if you are on a major budget, as it still runs good game well. If you have that bit more money then go for the GeForce4MX, which I will be reviewing shortly (hopefully) Thanks, john
Ive recently just bought the GeForce 2 Mmx and found it compatible to all my activites i do. A lot of people have told me that the Geforce graphics card as been rated badly and that its not the best at all. Very true! It is not the best you can buy, however, for the money you will spend on the product it is well worth it. I usually play a lot of games on my PC, ones with recommend higher and better graphics than the GeForce 2 MX. Howver the games run perfectly fine and are very good quality.
I have the original GeForce card which I got in my new computer about a year ago. I was stunned at the performance I got from the card and my NEC P3 733MHz. When this card came out I though ill have some of that until I saw the price, holly shit I thought. Now its went down in price and is still one of the best cards around with excpetion to its big brothers. This card is capable of a core speed of 175MHz. It can run almost any games at resoloutions of 1024 x 768 and even higher at amazing frame rates. It can be easily overclocked with some downloads easily available on the net. It is quite safe to do this but really your only going to squeeze and extra few frames a second without seriously over clocking it but this needs cooling etc. So overall this is an excellent card with a great value at the present time, if you want to wait for the GeForce 3 to come down in price then do that but its only going to cost you no more than a ton. I fine card a fine price it will make your PC the dogs!
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Writings about this video card seem as common as those for Nokia 3310 cell-phones, so here is my take on the subject, based on the necessity to change, rather than technical specification. Hopefully, my difficulties might strike a cord with someone, and help make that “consumer choice” we keep hearing about. Having just got back from a holiday which involved passing through Singapore (and of course, its duty free shop), I arrived home with a copy (legal, I might add) of Microsoft’s Train Simulator. Practically before we could get all the bags out of the taxi, there I was, CD-ROM in hand, making straight for the PC. Well, us lads like our toys, especially new ones – and ones that only cost about £24 abroad, instead of £40-odd here! Loading went OK but playing proved impossible, as it kept locking my machine. I couldn’t even follow MS’s routine for uploading the error message to their web site. It was only when a friend I hadn’t seen for 5 weeks rang to say “Guess what I’ve just bought – MS Train Sim” that the penny dropped. In an effort to keep down the bulk of my purchase (at that point I still had a month of travel to look forward to), I had discarded the box, along with it, the Minimum System Requirements. It later proved that these are in such small type that I’d have needed my reading glasses anyway, which were packed away. Now my PC’s not entirely ready for the scrap heap, (128mb RAM, 800 mhz processor etc), so I hadn’t given the “sysreqs” a 2nd thought, especially since I’d never had any problems with MS Flight Simulators. However, not being a game player by nature, I had failed to think of the video card. A quick perusal of my friend’s packaging (yes, all my friends live in cardboard boxes. Big Issue anyone?), led me straight to the problem. My Matrox AGP card was strictly 2D, whilst 3D was a specified requir
ement. So, off I trolled yesterday, (02/09/01) to PC World – well, they DID have a sale on, which at least promised that their prices now might be as good as anyone else’s! A previous and hurried look at sites like C**O and DOOYOO had revealed that the Creative G-Force 2 MX200 came highly recommended. I knew that I wouldn’t have any real use for 64mb of RAM etc, so at 32mb AND 3D, this seemed like a tried-and-tested candidate. At £69, which I gather is a pretty fair price, it is even more suitable, so I bought one. This morning I have installed it without a hitch using the Windows Install Wizard, and it has instantaneously solved my Train Simulator problems, which now boots up without a hitch. Why couldn’t MS write something into their software install routine, like a check of system suitability, so that you would know where your PC is deficient? In theory, I could have been wrong, and having no other real use for a “gamesy” video card, I’d have been £69 down the pan, with no real benefits. The bundled software consists of two games, no doubt chosen to show the card off to its best advantage, these being Midnight GT and Rage Rally. Now they sound like genteel little fripperies! I use a Samsung 17” monitor, the model of which can now be detected by Windows “Plug-and-Pray” – I don’t recall this being possible via the Matrox, but of course every time you install current-model hardware, the drivers are that bit closer to the optimum for the system. Having 32mb of RAM means that, for “business” use, the card is overkill, since you only want something that will handle the pixel size of your choice without flickering (i.e. is its refresh rate above the frequency that can be detected by the human eye?), but then the video card industry has always been driven by the needs of games manufacturers. The action on Train Simula
tor is now very smooth with only the very occasional tiny pause for disc activity. Whether more motherboard RAM or a faster processor would cure this, time will tell, because the word “upgrade” is never that far from my lips! VERDICT ON THE CARD At £69, it gets my vote, and thank goodness I didn’t pay the UK price for that software!
Yep, that's some title for a graphics card - but it's 100% true. If you've read some of my other opinions, you might know that me and Creative haven't always "got on". From the time I first bought a Creative CD-RW drive which never worked I was doubtful about their products. However, determined to give them a second chance I purchased one of their fine looking GeForce II MX graphics cards. Now, I'm not usually a picky person but you have to ask what kind of company Creative is. They barely package the card at all, and the end result can be one which isn't too pleasing. When my card arrived it has lost several parts, which were floating around in the box. Lucky they were all large bits of the card so I always able to repair it using large amounts of graphite and some masking tape. (You can never find Sellotape when you need it!) Apart from the poor quality solder used on the card (and the poor packaging), when installed it turns out to be pretty damn good. The graphics it produces in games like No-One Lives Forever are fantastic, but it helps if you have a pretty meaty PC spec to back it up. Naturally, the card comes with it's own drivers. A novel touch is that Creative have included a small utility to overclock the card - perhaps they're hoping to fry it so the user will go out and buy another. Still, the card has no heatsink or fan on it, so overclocking needs to be considered first. Installation is simple enough, although the length of the card meant that accessing certain things on the motherboard and installing an HDD could be tricky. The GeForce II MX fits into a standard AGP slot and supports 4x mode, helping the card keep up to speed in the rapidly changing world of graphics cards. The only other bad point about this card is that there's only one output - to the monitor. If you like your gaming on the big screen, you'd better look for a different card.
On the other hand, a good point is that the card boasts 32 megs of fast DDR RAM. This, coupled with the 4x AGP mode allowed the card to produce top notch graphics without cooking your PC. Overall, this card is a good budget choice and is well worth a look. I would recommend that you bought it from a local store and examined it first, due to the build quality. Apart from those few niggles, the Creative GeForce II MX is a good, solid (in performance) budget card with few complaints.
In theory it was for me but b*gg*r me if I can't get it to install on Windows 2000, I have searched high and low but can't get the correct drivers even though they are advertised as being the correct ones. Apart from that I have it on Windows 98 and its great, improves so many games I used to play on the old 8mb card and I love it, its not too bad a price either now and essential for all your gaming requirements, I love it.
Updated ******* The GeForce 2 MXs are excellent value graphics cards. Basically they are a cut down version of it's older brothers, the GTS, the Pro, and the Ultra. An explanation of some of the jargon I will use: Clock speed - how fast it goes Memory Speed - important for hi res gaming Pipelines - for upping the fillrate AGP - Accelerated Graphics Port (Faster than PCI) PCI - Peripeheral Component Interconnect (Standard expansion slot, for a wide range of peripeheral, runs slower than AGP - not recommended for graphics usage) The MX is the slowest version of the GeForce 2 line of cards, though it is also the cheapest. The differences between all the GeForce line of cards, is Clock Speed, Memory Speed, and number of pipelines. If you have a computer of 500mhz + speed then you will notice a nice performance gain by using one of these cards. Especially if upgrading from an onboard graphic solution, or from a 1st generation card like the TNT1 or the Voodoo 1. DO NOT FALL FOR THE DDR CON TRICK ********************************* I would advise against buying the Creative version of the GeForce 2 MX. Though it does indeed use DDR memory which is twice the speed of SDR. It uses a 64 bit memory path instead of 128 bit. In simple language, it negates any advantage of the DDR memory, and in actual fact, DDR with 64 bit path, = slower than SDR with 128 bit path, Simply because SDR has better latency than DDR. My recommended version of the MX would be the Hercules MX. (Get the 32 meg version, the 64 meg one offers little real difference). The MX can run all games at max detail providing you have an adequate system to do that - 750mhz +. If not it still scales down rather well, T&L (transform and lighting) on chip, can help slower processors to perform better by freeing up some of the load on it. The MX can also utilise FSAA (Full Screen Anti Al
iasing), ie getting rid of jagged lines. Though be warned, a big performance loss will be associated with this, due to memory limitations. You can buy a version of the MX that will work with a PCI Bus (standard expansion slot in a PC) though I would advise against this if you plan to play games at above 800x600. The most common version is the AGP 2x/4x version. This means it will work in AGP 2x or 4x AGP slots. The faster the AGP slot the more information it can utilise per cycle. Though there is little real world difference between 2x and 4x at the moment. If you have only an AGP 1x speed slot (check your motherboard manual), then it is still possible to use this card. Though you may notice a performance decrease. Please note your Motherboard does need to be AGP 2.0 compliant though - that is unrelated to 1x, 2x and 4x. AGP 2.0 relates to how much power your AGP slot can utilise. If the slot is only AGP 1.0 then you may run into many problems. Updated ******* A new version of the GeForce 2 has been released, known as the Titanium200 This is basically a Pro GeForce 2, for around £120. If you are budget limited and have a processor of a P3, or Athlon calibre this would be a decent upgrade from an older card. However if you crave more power, then perhaps the GeForce 3 Ti200 will be a better budget/performance choice. The cost is around £180 and offers full Direct X8 compatability at a reasonable price. There is 1 other new version of the GeForce due to be released called the Ti500 this is for the power gamer and the price tag reflects that. For more information about these cards, check out http://www.nvidia.co.uk Any questions regarding these cards or any other cards, feel free to ask. Kev