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      25.11.2005 17:48
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      good but certainly not what they promised

      I have owned this printer for nearly a year now, the quality is ggood, allthough its not as good as the adverts state (basically that its a substitute for getting digital pictures developed ! - it is certainly not that) the inks are incredibly expensive if you buy canon origional allthough of course there are lots of places to get cheap ink if you search on the net, ifyou dont be aware the cartridges cost £7.00 each, and if you have kids they last about 3 days (im not kidding !)

      After a few months I have had problems with banding, and when you change an ink cartridge it can smudge for the first few copies, this is remedied by doing a deep clean (automatic feature) but this uses about half of the ink (yup thats 6 x £7.00 divided by 2) so you dont want to hit that button by mistake !

      Also as with all printers after a year it is having problems with the feeder, if you print a 50 page document you will get 10 pages of blanks where the printer had fed through 2 sheets of paper.

      Overall its a good home printer, but dont expect it to be amazing quality, or to last forever.

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        28.01.2004 01:47
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        I purchased this printer several months ago, and have been extremely pleased with its performance ever since. I looked at the various offerings from HP, Epson and Lexmark as well, and decided upon the Canon i850 as the perfect choice. I was looking for an all-round printer, that could cope with a small-business workload (I have plenty of college work to do, and my mum is an Avon Team Leader) without costing the earth in consumables. I also wanted to print photos, so printing quality was a serious consideration, and not just the cost to run the machine. Overview ************** As far as all-rounders go, this printer is amazing. It is designed primarily as a medium-high volume/small business printer. I feel that, compared to its rivals from the Epson and HP camps, it is the best all-rounder by far. After much researching, I stumbled across an excellent printer round-up at www.tomshardware.com : http://www6.tomshardware.com/consumer/20021223/index.html As you will see, they calculated the printing costs per page for this printer and all its rivals, as well as comparing print quality and speed. The Canon i850 beats all its competitors from Epson and HP hands down. Appearance **************** The footprint of this printer is about the same size as its rivals, and the styling is exemplary. With a sleek, silver-topped modern appearance - and yet this printer still manages to look sturdy and business like. This unit sports a minimalist look that is smart but not flashy, and would look attractive on any desk - be it at work or in the home. A door opens at the front to reveal the retractable paper tray for your printed items - this keeps the tray nicely hidden when the printer is not in use. The unit uses an external power supply, and connects via USB or parallel por
        t connections. However, I recommend for ease-of-use and speed to use the USB connection wherever possible. Speed and Noise ************************* The i850 sports an extremely high print speed (perhaps not the quoted 22ppm, but it is very fast) - and yet still manages to remain surprisingly quiet. Tomshareware.com found that the printer prints photos at double the speed of the Epson equivalent. In fact, the Canon i850 is faster at printing everything than its rivals. It is the only inkjet I have ever used that can even come close to laser speeds in the black and white printing department. The quality for text is readily acceptible in draft mode, and most inkjet users will be pleasantly surprised at the sheer speed here if they have to print out alot of copies quickly and cheaply! As far as audible noise goes when the printer is operational, I found this printer to be very quiet in comparison to my old HP Deskjet 693C, and a couple of Epson printers that I have used. It is perfectly possible to use this printer at night or in an office environment without causing 'noise pollution' :) I have used printers that produce inferior results in twice the time and still make much more noise! There is also a driver option to make the printer even quieter (if you are exceptionally fussy), although this decreases print speed slightly. Quality ************* Canon make a fuss about a 'droplet size' of '2 picolitres (2pl)'. This basically means that the droplets of ink are exceptionally small - in fact half the size of most inkjet printers in this price range. This allows for excellent colour transition and razor-sharp detail across the board :) Print quality is outstanding. Given that there is no real quantative method for assesing print quality, and I cannot include
        scanned examples in this review, I would suggest you check out tomshardware.com - you will find quality comparisons with Epson and HP there. Text and business graphics are crisp with vivid colours and deep blacks. Photo output is equally impressive, with no banding, high definition and great colour reproduction. This printer offers excellent quality all-round, on all different kinds of media. I have printed photos in both black and white and colour, business graphics, and text - on plain paper, matt/gloss photo paper, and T-shirt transfers - and I have never had a single problem with the quality of the printed output that this little unit gives. Driver ************* The Canon driver is excellent, offering the usual plethora of modes for different qualities and paper etc. Not only do you have the option for borderless printing, but there are several enhancement options too. 'Image Optimiser' improves low-resolution images, like adding the Bilinear Filtering and Anti-Aliasing found in games (smooths out blocky images and jagged lines). 'Photo Optimiser' and adjusts the brightness/contrast of your photos, and 'Vivid Photo' enhances colors, to give outstanding lush greens in foliage for instance. In addition, the Canon printing engine is fast and efficient, meaning that there is no unneccesary twiddling of thumbs between when you click 'print' and when the printer kicks in. The USB interface is used to good effect here, and I have never had a single problem with communication between my PC and this printer. I cannot vouch for the Parallel connection though, as I do not use it. I would advice anyone to connect their printer via USB if possible, as this provides the easiest connectivity and best speeds. Cost ******* 
        4;he most important factor for me (with high printing volumes of work and photos etc) was the cost of consumables. This is where the i850 leaps ahead of the competition. Canon use four seperate ink cartridges for the different colours and black. This means that, say if the red ran out, you only have to replace that cartridge - whereas in the competition you would have to replace the whole colour cartridge which is much more expensive. The printer itself has since been surpassed by newer models, but it is still a great unit and can no doubt be found at a great price online. I have seen it at about £110 new on ebay! Many people these days are tempted to pick up a cheap printer from Lexmark/HP/Epson, or even Canon themselves - but you will most definitely get 'shafted' when it comes to the cost of consumables. These units literally burn ink, and a full set of replacement cartridges can often cost as much as you paid for the printer itself. I recommend, however, investing a little more in a Canon printer such as this. You will be left with a printer that performs infinitely better in both quality and speed, looks the part, and pays for itself within a year or so when it comes to consumables. Conclusion *************** Overall this printer is very fast, with great print quality in all applications and is very economical to run. Excellent drivers give a wealth of options for seasoned users but remain simple and intuitive to use for all. The only potential downside is that Canon's inks are sensitive to light and gases in the air. This means that they can fade fairly quickly if exposed - so any hung photos should be behind glass, in which case they are guaranteed for 25 years :) Other than that, there is absolutely nothing that I have found to discourage buying this printer, or one of its newer siblings in the Canon range.
        Thoroughly recommended! Dave. ADDITIONAL INFO: This is the official info from the Canon UK site... http://www.canon.co.uk/For_Home/Product_Finder/Printers/&# 66;ubble_Jet/i850/ Features Up to 4800 x1200 dpi resolution, advanced MicroFine Droplet Technology? Canon Micro-Nozzles and 2pl droplets give professional photo quality Business performance ? up to 22ppm mono & 14ppm colour Canon Single Ink technology.

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          03.01.2004 00:44
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          This is a great ink-jet printer that I find hard to fault. The quality of the print is excellent, both on text and photographs. I especially like its capability to print from edge-to-edge. The only downside to this is persuading software packages like MS PowerPoint to take advantage of the edge-to-edge capability. Cannon?s system of individual tanks for each ink make the i850 far more economic than the Lexmark and HP inkjets I?ve previously owned. I bought a complete set of replacement tanks for less than the cost of a single Lexmark cartridge. However, in five months of fairly light usage but a handful of lengthy document prints I haven?t yet needed to change any of the tanks that the printer came with, though the driver software says that the black ink is getting low. No one seems to have told Canon that the way to make money with ink jet printers is to sell printers cheap and then rip customers off with overpriced cartridges? I chose this particular model because it has both Centronics and USB connections so that I could attach two computers attached simultaneously without the palaver of networking them. In the end, I haven?t needed to use this capability, but it may be useful to you. Niggles with this printer are minor. It takes a comparatively long time to start a print. I haven?t timed it but it is noticeably slower than other inkjets I have used. It seems to chatter away to itself for itself, before getting going. Once it gets going the print speed is quite fast, so no more half-hour waits for photo quality prints. Another point is that there it does not have a proper exit paper tray, so you have to stand it directly on a flat surface that is wide enough to hold the output. This could be an inconvenience in a cramped home office, and aren?t they all cramped? In summary, I strongly recommend this and would buy it again without hesitation. PS There is only one Canon i850, not a ?standard? i850 and a ?Photo Printer?
          i850, not two as you might think fomr the presence of separate reviews in dooyoo. You might be forgiven for that the i850 is schizophrenic, it does both jobs so well. The photo paper I use if Kodak?s Inkjet Photo paper, and this gives excellent results ? not problems with long drying times another reviewer has reported with other photo paper. However, you always treat inkjet photo prints with care for the first hour or so, whatever paper you use.

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            11.09.2003 23:18
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            I bought this Canon photo printer after I ditched the Epson one I had for 7 months. This is an excellent printer. It's so quiet when it's printing. When it's making a photo quality print the noise is barely audible, unlike my previous Epson printer which was very noisy. This Canon printer even has a separate 'quiet' facility to use at night but it hardly seems like it needs it. This printer works with almost no noise at all! It's also very fast, again easily 4-5 times faster than Epson at printing the same things. Photo quality prints are fast tracked through and the quality is superb. Text on plain paper almost flies out the printer. I cannot fault it at all. With separate ink tanks I need only to replace the empty one and not the whole lot. I have used it extensively over the past 3 weeks and cannot find one thing to fault it on. The colour rendition is EXACTLY as shown on my monitor with no variation at all. My Epson printer always seemed to print out a bit darker than was shown on the screen, but this Canon printer is spot on. The set up procedure with this printer is more detailed than an Epson one but once it's done the results for me are flawless. I have had problems in the past with clogged heads and banding in other printers but this one has shown none of these problems. It's a superb printer and one I'm more than happy to recommend. I have not been disappointed in any of its functions and I'm astounded at the photo quality of the prints it produces. The size of the ink drops go down to a whopping 2 picolitre size making the transition from each colour seamless. Prints from this machine are easilyas good at those from a photo processing lab. All in all, a wonderful printer which is worth every penny. It only uses 3 colour inks as well as the black. Other photo quality printers use 5 colour inks and black but due to the very small size of the ink drop delivered onto the pa
            per there seems to be no loss of quality from using 2 fewer ink colours. Photos come out perfectly and the colours blend seemlessly. Also, you only need to purchase 3 separate colour inks as opposed to 5 in other printers. A fantastic printer!

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              20.03.2003 15:01
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              First let me express my amazement that no one in Dooyoo has yet reviewed this printer, which has been available in the States since end September 2002 and which I received only yesterday March 19th, 2003. This is explained by the delay that all new hardware encurs between its launch on the US market and its launch on the EU market. This delay seems to go hand in hand with a higher price. To illustrate the time gap the Canon i850 became available in February 2003 in France and this month of March in Belgium and Holland. This practice has very much worked against Canon as in this same period of time the printer market was flooded with HP's 5550 model, aimed at almost the same public, and which even went through a considerable price fall during that same period. I have been longing for this exact Canon i850 printer for a while now. In fact ever since I read a very favourable review of it on Tomshardware.com in December 2002. The way it was described there it perfectly fitted the bill of what I had been looking for since I purchased a digital photocamera back in October 2001. At the time I felt immediately that such a camera begged to be coupled to a photoprinter of my own. Because the Hewlett-Packard Deskjet 690C+ I own and use since December 1997, unlike what was claimed on its carton, was in no way capable of printing quality photos - not even while using the optional and expensive photo cartridge and quality photopaper - until now I called upon the services of a local Photolab to have my digital images in print. This service works very well and the quality of their output is actually quite good and affordable, almost approaching the price per print of a classic film, but obviously it lacks the freedom offered by having your own photoprinter. So for some time now I had been looking for a printer that not only would print photolab quality prints but also one that would be economical, silent and quick. And this exact Canon i850 model -- w
              hich isn't even a dedicated photoprinter in Canon's book -- does exactly all that: - It undoubtedly prints photolab quality prints especially if you use Canon's own Photo Pro paper. - It is quick : for now I've tested it only on an old Pentium2-computer running Windows2000 and through a USB 1.1 connection but already then it prints a 4"x6" photo in under 1 minute. If however you would be using an up-to-date computer, your printing times would be even less. This printer uses the older USB 1.1 standard but as the newer USB2.0 is backwards compatible, the printer will work whatever the standard your PC is using. If you want to print even slower the i850 does still have a parallel port on board. However no printer cable of any type is included in the package, so be sure to order one separately. - It is economical, even compared with HP's comparable 5550 offering, which is about 30 % cheaper than this Canon. Because unlike the HP5550 the Canon i850 has four separate ink tanks (black, cyan, magenta, and yellow) and needs no special photo cartridge to print photographs. So obviously when you run out of ink you only need to replace the cartridge that has really run out. Nowadays the price of cartridges, especially for people printing a lot, has become much more important than the initial purchase price of a machine. However on the i850 replacing cartridges, or the printing head for that matter, is a breeze. I should also note that it does lack the paper dectection system the HP5550 has built in. - Canon currently has the lead in inkjet technology, with its advanced bubblejet printing heads like the one used on this i850 and also on the even newer i950 (Canon's "real" Photoprinter aimed to replace the S900) it can place the smallest ink droplets on paper in the industry. The main difference between the i850 and the i950 is that the latter uses two more colours for photoprinting an
              d costs almost double the price of the i850. - I can't comment extensively on its text and non-photo colour quality yet as I intend to use my Deskjet 690C for text and normal colour print until its expensive cartridges run dry, this could still be a while since I don't print text that much. But the printing speed for normal documents is brilliant. For the bargain hunters amongst you I would give the advice to test it with photopapers offered by other manufacturers to see if the Canon paper can be replaced by something cheaper as the recommended Canon Photo Pro paper IS without a doubt expensive. Also they would have to test - and maybe I will in the future risk it myself - to see if using cheap refill kits won't affect the brilliant photo output of this Canon i850 too adversely allowing for further savings. However compared to the HP original cartridges for my Deskjet 690C, I don't think the prices for the original Canon cartridges are that steep compared to Epson or HP prices, and remember that you only need to replace the colour that has run out at not all three colours at once. THE PACKAGE The i850 comes with some sample Canon Photo pro 4"x6" paper, printhead, ink cartridges, user manual and driver and software CD's but with NO printer cable. There's a lot of sticky tape to be removed to free all panels and slots but it's not a big hassle. Printhead and ink tanks are packaged separately so you still need to unwrap them and install them in the printer yourself which is no big challenge. Then you slide the installation CD into your computer up to a point where the procedure asks you to switch on the printer after which it is detected and the software installation is finalized. Once you've installed everything the printer does a selfcheck and at the first printjob urges you do do a headalignment test which allows you to do some adjustments if necessary. After that you're rea
              dy for business ! UPDATE For now I've tested the i850 also with HP photopaper and they don't get along that well, printing quality is inferior to that with Canon's own paper and the print takes a very long time to dry. The cheapest option for now without compromising the photo output, if you trust your steady hand, is to buy Canon's own A4 photopaper and print four borderless photos on it, which you can then cut up. The Canon printing software utilility delivered with the printer is excellent for this as is the other utilitiy which allows you to view your photos as you would in a normal album, far better than what the Windows explorer can do for you.

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              The Canon i850 Bubble Jet Printer sets a new performance standard for delivering superior quality and breakthrough speed simultaneously. It delivers output resolution up to an ultra-high 4800 x 1200 color dpi and incredibly fast speeds of up to 22ppm in black and up to 14ppm in color. The i850 printer produces outstanding, photo-lab quality 4" x 6" borderless photos in less than 48 seconds. And when printed on Canon Photo Paper Pro, photos will retain their brilliance for approximately 25 years. The i850 printer also comes with Single Ink technology that combines individual ink tanks with intelligent ink management for ease-of-use and lower printing costs.

              The i850 printer introduces a new printhead with a unique combination of 5 picoliter droplets for coverage and ultra-fine 2 picoliter droplets for photo-realism. Achieving this array of reduced droplet sizes is amazing-but it's only half the story. Increased precision is necessary to realize the potential for higher quality printing. The answer: Advanced MicroFine Droplet Technology with an exclusive 1600-nozzle system that can eject approximately 19 million droplets per second. Accuracy and consistency is maintained for maximum resolution and image quality. The i850 printer also has Advanced Precision Color Distribution Technology to virtually eliminate color variance and banding problems typically found with conventional high-speed, bi-directional printing.