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      01.07.2001 20:29
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      Bit of an over the top title? Read on and then you tell me. ** Please note the use of the word 'bastard' in the title is not as a profanity. It refers to them being fatherless sons of... ** Desktop dollars for the uninformed is one of the few remaining 'get paid to surf' programs, most of the others having withdrawn from the race due to lack of advertising revenue. Basically you download a small program, that when installed creates a bar on your screen that flashes adverts at you. You are supposed to be paid a set amount for every hour that the bar is running, and you are surfing the net. I used it when it first launched but after earning only 50 cents for over thirty hours surfing, I ditched it. My friend who introduced me, however, did not. He has consistently used it and has yet to receive the minimum payout limit, earning around two dollars a month for having their advert bar on his screen for around forty hours a month. Recently, however, he has noticed some strange things happening on web pages that he views. This seemed to start when he installed the latest version of their viewbar. Certain words on webpages that my friend visited were underlined and flashed yellow, even if the word was not a hyper-link. Clicking on these words opened a little pop-up box that invited him to visit sites (shopping pointed to Ebay). I must stress that this was coming from his own PC as viewing the source of the web-pages revealed no link! A little digging on his machine uncovered a little program call EZULA, that seemingly installed, without permission!, when he installed the new desktop dollars bar. A quick search on Google shows that Ezula is a advertising site that is selling this technology to other companies. So how does it work? Well Ezula is pioneering something called HotText, which seems to be very much like the smart-tags feature that Microsoft are busy removing from Wi ndows XP. Companies pay for their websites to be associated with certain words which are stored in the Ezula program. Then whenever the browser goes to a site that has the word on the page it will highlight and create a link. Hey that sounds ok you are thinking? Well consider a site like DooYoo. By using certain words (shopping, opinions, community, music etc) in the Ezula HotText program it would be possible to hijack the advertising revenue from DooYoo. DooYoo has a link to Blackstar. Well imagine if I bought the right to have DVD and Video built into my own version of Ezula HotText. Then if I could convince people to install my own version, whenever they visted DooYoo, and the words DVD or Video were present on the page, they would be highlighted and offer you the chance to visit "CJKAce's Movie Emporium". DooYoo would receive no money for this, and Blackstar wouldn't receive many visitors from the DooYoo site. As you have probably guessed, Desktop Dollars have indeed signed up their own version of HotText, and predictably offer it as a way for you to earn more money. As they don't seem to pay out anyway (or it takes so long to make it unviable) it's a bit of a moot point. The problem is that this software hi-jacks other sites advertising revenue, which means that many sites whose business relies on targetted advertising, like DooYoo, Ciao, IPoints etc, will start to lose their advertisers, which means they close down and ulimately WE lose. So yes, Ezula and Desktop Dollars are in my opinion the "Bastard sons of scum sucking weasels" (My apologies to any weasels that may be reading this, but I refer only to your scum-sucking brethren) ** Read more about Ezula at www.ezula.com **

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        01.07.2001 00:39

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        I have downloaded several sites before, offering to pay you seemingly endless amounts of cash. I'm using desktop dollars at the moment. I haven't made a great amount of cash, but being as I'm on the net a lot. Thought might as well download a prog, where I could possibly earn some extra cash. Once you've downloaded it, you can have it at the top or bottom of the screen. At first when the adverts start displaying on your screen, you tend to notice them. After a while, you tend not to take any notice of them. It also has a feature where you can listen to various music, or listen to the news.It also has a search engine.Enabling you to search the net for whatever interests you. If like me your on the net a lot then if you can earn a few extra dollars, whilst your surfing the net or by being in a chat room, go for it.

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        24.06.2001 06:04
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        In my past experiences, I have signed up to plenty of pay-to-surf schemes and I haven't recieved a penny! They have annoying bars that take up 1\8 of your screen on 800 x 600, which is OK for people with high screen resolutions, but not for people with smaller monitors. There is an advantage with one of the schemes, All Advantage. The bar for this has got the occasional interesting advert and a search engine. On the whole, if you sign up for these schemes, you'll be signing yourself up for a lot of 'spam', around 10 e-mails a day if you're unlucky, and you'll be wasting your time! Of course, you hear of all these people that have made £500+ a month, but how do they do this? By sending e-mails to people like us and posting on news groups and usenet, clogging up the system. Most schemes don't send out cheques until you reach £40 or £50, which can be awkward, and if you use the foreign schemes, you'll more than likely be paid in their currency, thus creating bank charges!

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          24.06.2001 05:52
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          Wow after visiting so many of these get paid to surf sites you suddenly start to realise there is league table where certain sites are near the top and others near the bottom like this one Desktop Dollars! Dependant on how you rate sites you may see differently. The first thing I rate is how tacky does the webpage look, lots of flashing banners, are there enough to make you have a fit! and this one is no exception. All the pay to surf sites I have visted usually either have an in depth guide on how the system works for you and them, how much you get, how often you paid etc,etc. This one just seems to skim over the top its not to clear, and the fact they advertise there top five earners is just another big carrot being dangled. Why don't they show us the information we need to know, like there top earner for example, He probably has a top webpage that gets thousands of hits on a regular basis and he obviously generates all his earnings through ad banners, where as you and me if you have a webpage at all probably only get 1000 hits a year on average! All in all its a percentages game if you have adverts plastered all over your webpage and 100,000 visit that site a year, if 25% click on the ad banner and 5% register thereafter you will recieve 5000 times what ever your commision is, if for arguments sake it is $0.60 per referral then you would earn $3000, but not many of us have websites that generate that much interest so you see how far you have to go in order to achieve that sort of standard as there top 5 earners have shown. Overall I say first impressions last and I wouldn't touch this cowboy outfit with a 40ft bargepole. If I can't find the answers to the questions I had to ask from there information section then I think they could be hiding something from us!!!

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          25.05.2001 05:39
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          "Oh, Liberty, oh, Liberty - what crimes are commited in your name". Ripping people off is a crime allright (not that we'll see any pictures of the Statue Of Liberty through our letterboxes in our lifetime. Desktop Dollars promised to pay it's users for the inconvenience of having adverts on the users' computer whilst on line (and believe me, it is a considerable inconvenience participating in the destop DOLLAR program (to give a more apt name). Q. What is all the fuss about and what are you whinging about? A. Streaming adverts are sent to your computer but more recently, those damned annoying javascript "popup" windows appear. Normally, the user can carry on doing whatever but the one used by this particular company over-rides the current activity (scenario - typing an opinion and the "popup" stops text appearing, forcing you to close the window and hence looking at the advert) Q. Sounds quite annoying - are they paying you much for the dubious honour? A. Are they f**k! The average user will get around one dollar per month as well as them raising the minimum payout threashhold which virtually guarrenties you will never be paid a dime. Q. Surely they have ways of earning more money, though? A. That's what they state. Click on the adverts, install the "Hot Text" add-on are two but nothing is ever received - and there is no way of seeing if you have earned any extra. Q. What's "Hot Text"? A. "Hot Text" is a rather intrusive programe which disects whatever web page you are on and makes certain words "hot" by making them active links to their advertising partners with the confidence trick of promising to pay more when they don't - certainly I have no proof of increased earnings during my "evaluation" period of this pain in the backside. Q. Do you get unwanted "spam" mail by participating in "Desktop Dollars", then? A. Yes - and here is the very sneaky bit. If you decide (quite rightfully) you do not want spam mail from them and their endless stream of partners, you can cancel BUT you loose every cent you have earnt. very naughty indeed. Q. Anything else that you consider "naughty" then? A. They employ "spyware" that automatically sends and puts your email address into further "popups" which are things like further spam mail lists which have certain things pre "ticked" so if you accidentally hit the return key (if you type an opinion, lets say, you are likely to hit the return key to start a new line, yes? If that "popup" is one of those lists, you may as well sell your soul to the devil. Q. What's your overal verdict of "Desktop Dollars", then? A. Bloody awful!!! There are no benefits to the user anymore. They do not tell you how much you can earn, they move the goalposts constantly. In short, it's a con trick.

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            19.04.2001 03:33
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            I signed up for Desktop Dollars (DD) at the start of February, having read some favourable reports about this programme around the Net. The main thing that attracted me was the fact that you do not have to be surfing actively to earn. It is sufficient to be connected to the Net. Since I am on a cable modem at home and tend to be online for several hours each evening, I thought I was onto a good thing. I even contemplated the possibility of using the DD toolbar on my work computer, since there I have a permanent ADSL connection. Membership of DD requires you to download their toolbar. This shows adverts, and also has some other functions. There is a section that shows streaming headlines, and you can choose the interest areas you want displayed. Clicking on a headline takes you to the website which is carrying the full article. The bar has a built in search engine. You can also use the bar to listen to various radio stations if you really want to. Unfortunately, the DD toolbar seems to hate Windows NT and constantly froze up my work PC so I gave up that idea very fast. At home, where I am on Win2000, the DD toolbar was at first highly temperamental and kept crashing my machine several times in an evening. Eventually, I managed to download a newer version which proved better-behaved. However, the latest wheeze is something called Hot Text. Every time you switch on the DD bar, you get an invitation to download Hot Text. I did download this and found that it leaves daubs of colour over certain words in any web page you go to. Quite why it does this is not clear, and there seems no logic as to which words are selected for this treatment. Since I found this annoying, I deinstalled it. DD now insists on inviting me to download Hot Text every time I switch on. There is a button with which to say "no thanks", but the message does not get registered and the invitation continues to appear. If you have DD in you start-up, be prepared for quite a wait as it updates its files. The invitation to download Hot Text extends the wait time even more. At intervals of every 15 minutes or so, DD sends a little dialogue box to pop up at random somewhere on your screen. It threatens that you will be cut off if you do not click the button. Fair enough, they have a right to know that you are still present, awake, alive etc. DD payouts are sent 2 months and 20 days after the end of the month to which they apply. If you think that is a long time, just wait until you hear the rest of the story! For non-US residents, the minimum amount that can be paid out is $100. I have just now received my statement for February. Remember, I am connected for several hours a day. DD informs me that for the month of February, I viewed 6846 ads, and my two first level referrals viewed 4753. My total earnings for the month were $1.70!!! At this rate, I will have to wait about 4 years before I approach the $100 minimum for a payout - except by then the minimum will have probably been raised again. If you want an adbar with search facility, streaming headlines and audio, you might be quite happy with DD. However, don't hold your breath about making any money from it.

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              18.04.2001 00:58
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              Around eight months ago I decided to explore the “paid to serf” programs and give as many a try as I could. And what I found was about the same for each and every one. (All except for click dough but now they aren’t paying either.) They usually required you to download their software onto your computer and tolerate their bar while you were browsing the web. Seldom if every, would you be able to safely predict how much you were supposed to earn from your time because even though they claim you get 70 percent of their revenue from advertisers, this is not so unless you have a list of people signed up under you. Couple the low pay with an unreliable counter and add to that the fact that you have to have a certain amount before you will get a check and it equals spending a lot of time, looking at this bar and hoping that you will make enough to earn a check before you die of old age.

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                01.04.2001 05:24
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                I joined DeskTopDollars as 'Pay To Surf' schemes were becoming popular. I was immediately attracted by the fact that there was no limit on the number of hours you can use the service - this can lead to greater earning potential. However, to do so you will need to spend a lot of hours online and also have a lot of referrals. Several months on my grand total is up to $5. This is very dissappointing considering the number of hours I have needed to surf to actually achieve this. To make things even worse I will probably need to keep going for another couple of years or so before I even get paid as the payment threshold for UK residents is $60. One thing I do quite like about the service is the built-in radio so that you can listen to music while you surf and earn the chance to win money for doing so. This is quite different from the competitiors. If and when I do reach the payment threshold I can choose to be paid by cheque or using their debit card. The debit card can be used to withdraw cash from any ATM worldwide so that you have instant access to your funds. However, at this payment rate the company may have followed the path of AllAdvantage ... RIP ... before I get the chance to be paid. If you use the web a lot and get a lot of people to join it can be a good scheme but don't expect to get rich quick. If you do decide to join then please use my referral so that I may actually reach the payment threshold. ID: marcusball

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                  27.01.2001 10:22
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                  Desktop Dollars has been a right pain in the arse recently. As far as I know, DD are the only "pay to surf" advert bars that uses one of the most hated internet features - the "pop-up window" for a number of their advertisers. At the moment I, like a number of other people, have the basic 32megs of RAM in their computer which means we can't have as many programs/windows open at any one time as we would like (although I'm upgrading everythin at the moment). "Close the pop-up windows," I hear you say BUT here's the realy problem - the pop-up's don't always close when you click on the exit button. a few clicks and the systems locks. Then it's the three-fingered salute (ctrl-alt-del) to shut down that particular offending window - and it shuts down your browser completely, taking any downloads with it. Most annoying would be an understatement. Do you know of anyone who has actually been paid out on this program? I know I haven't heard of anyone. We were promised a form of cashcard to withdraw our money but they haven't appeared and the last time I looked the minimum payout for this was five hundred dollars - surely this would be best all round as electronic transfers are (usually) the most efficient and cost effective way of transferring funds around. As for checks (cheques), well due to the greed of the British Banks and Building Societies, we end up making the payments build up due to the rip-off conversion fees they charge. The program has changed a few times since I signed up for it in the "summer" of 2000, although they haven't changed it as much as the pioneers of this sort of program, the now disgraced alladvantage.com. DD's amounts are paltry but this is offset by the fact it is unlimited and it is not possible to calculate how much one can expect as it is paid per ad exposure (currently one ad per fourty-five seconds, was thirty seconds). How muc h earnt is sent to your account about three months from the end of the month (December's earnings are revealled in March or April) so they keep you on board for longer. When it comes to referals, the program offers the highest levels of referals but tha's not much use if you can't get at the money!!! Customer enquiries are very slow in being dealt with, if at all. Not very good at all. The only reason I'm sticking with it is that I've around fifty dollars built up and I want a decent amount before I request a payment due to the banking charges. That is the plan anyway. Stick with the likes of surfmiles, they seem stable and have increased the amount of earnings per month. The update bit Since I first wrote this opinion "A Pain In The Arse", the unbelievable has happened, the pay rates have decreased even further. For viewing the same amount of banner ads when I first started (and getting around ten dollars for it), I received confirmation that I earned 90 cents for January. With the usual trick of raising the payout threshhold for those of us outside the US to sixty bucks, well, my hairline will proberbly receed to my bum by the time I get a cheque from these guys. One thing that seriously alarms me with Desktop dollars are those damned popup windows. The company who annoys you with the popup captures your email address (the one you use for the program) and this is momentarily displayed in the blue strip at the top of the box. DD also send out emails with "message from xxxxxxxx xxxxxxxx" as adverts, using your name. At first that used to be when the user changed their email address but now they also sell your email address and the result of this is more spam mail. DD give you an option to cancel them - but the catch is that you loose ALL your money (what little they now pay, that is) so, the scam (that's what I now think it is) continues. Another scheme for when I reach the threshhold, they can get stuffed.

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                    23.12.2000 20:27
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                    I signed up with Desktop Dollars a couple of months ago and faithfully logged in to the viewbar every time I went online either at home or at college. In October I amassed what I thought was quite a healthy number of ads viewed but was less than impressed when I recently learnt my earnings for October: just 2 cents. To be fair, it is possible to earn a great deal more money by earning commission on your referrals' earnings but the apathy of other Internet users to the possibility of making small amounts of money for the inconvenience of losing part of your screen and watching a constant stream of repetitive ads makes this task all the more difficult. One thing that I dislike about the program is the way that you earn a percentage of whatever the company receives from advertising revenue whereas some other programs have a set rate per hour. Also, Desktop Dollars only provides payment in dollars when the minimum balance of $60 is reached for international members. This program does have one or two redeeming features that mean I would still recommend it to a friend: You can get paid for an unlimited number of hours and build up an unlimited number of referrals. Finally, you can listen to a wide range of (US based) radio stations from the viewbar, and choose to have headlines of the type of your choice displayed across the viewbar. Desktop Dollars could certainly be improved, especially by paying more for personal viewing (but this might depend on the number of friends you refer) and catering better for users who don't live in America, but I have been unable to find anything else so far that is significantly better, so for the moment I will continue to use it.

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                      03.12.2000 04:38

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                      My favourite adbar, it's unobstructive, doesn't ask anything much of you, pays quite well, and works in all weather conditions. You don't have to be surfing the web to make money, and you don't have to suffer obsessive compulsive dissorder and continually be jiggling the mouse to keep the money flowing in. A rundown of the programs goodness : Name : Desktop Dollars Webby : www.desktopdollars.com Scheme : striaght pay2surf Payrate : Varies, centers around $0.15/hour Refferals : !!6 Levels! earning 33%, 10%, 5%, 5%, 2%, 2% Max Hours : Unlimited! Min Cheque : $40 Goodies : * Not as annoying or labour intesive as other adbars * No need to move your mouse once a minute, which is great! * No need to be surfing the web, just being online is enough! * Good adverts, which is a first I think! * Unlimited hours for all you net addicts! * Lots of potential for refferals, 6 layers means if you got lots of friends you can earn a bomb! Baddies : * Payment in dollars isn't too helpful * Takes a couple of months for the payrate to be worked out, but you know how many adverts you've viewed, so go on 3000 = $1 and you've got a good estimate! If you like this program and decide to sign up, please remember me and contact me on staffell@clara.co.uk for my refferal id, so that I get a bit of a reward for showing you to the service :o)

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                      25.11.2000 20:47
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                      I run www.extrapay.co.uk and at the first sign of the REAL payout rates from DesktopDollars I was immediately compelled to remove them. They now pay a pittence per hour. This is enough to make me sick. I now realise that 50¢ is not average, but very good, but 8 is still totally useless. Programs like this are what compelled me to make up the ExtraPay NewsLetter, so I could update people as soon as possible as to what they were getting into, in case they didn't realise. Their site is slow quite often and their bar is wasteful. They spend a lot of money on competitions, rather than on attracting people by boosting rates and attracting higher pay from advertisers. My advice to the people is don't even go to the site. My advice to DesktopDollars is to quit now, just GIVE UP! There aren't very many programs out there that pay well any more, but I would still avoid DD at all costs.

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                      05.11.2000 00:14
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                      I used Desktop Dollars for a couple of months. Like many other pay as you surf companies, they promise big money for reading adverts while you are surfing. They don't actually tell you how much, only that you are getting a percentage of their earnings, they say the rates are better than most fixed payment companies. WHAT A LIE. The con is you don't know how much you've earnt until at least 1 month after the end of a payment month. The company are obviously making big money from numerious people giving up after using the service for a couple of months, I used the software extensively and earned just under a massive $2 for hours and hours online. This mean't there was only another $58 dollars to earn before getting paid. A minimum of $60 payout. What a joke. Work it out yourself how long it would take to get paid. If the company still exists then. The only thing I can say good about this company is the software is good, but it's not worth using for nothing. They have a 5 level referal system if you really want to con your friends into this.

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                        31.10.2000 00:36

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                        Desktop Dollars is like the pay as you surf programs in that you have the bar across your screen to receive the payment but the payment is calculated in a different way. Your DD desktop bar receives advertisements, which are narrowed down from your interest form in the hope they will be of some use, and you will actually use them. It is then calculated how many advertisements you receive whilst online, and how much you earn depends on how much the advertisers pay them. They share 70% of all of the advertising companies' money with you, although you do not receive your full share unless you refer people to the service. Without referrals you only earn 45% of the maximum. One more thing, if you were sign up and you would place my member name in the box to indicate who refereed you it would be much appreciated. And as I have just seen the bit asking you not to put your member name you would have to mail me to find out.

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                        27.10.2000 05:28
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                        DeskTop Dollars is one of the better pay to surf programs currently available. The advert bar is reasonably small and does not interfere with your screen. There is also no requirement to actually surf, as long as you are connected to the internet you can use it. This means that you can display the bar while writing a letter or playing games. The pay rate is not fixed, it is calculated as a portion of advertising revenue. Obviously this makes the actual earnings very unreliable because you never know what the rate is until after the month has ended. However, one added bonus is that you are paid for all the actions of your downline irrespective of personal use. Too many programs will only pay downline rates for the time you have used the system yourself. I have personally earned, though very little, for a month when I never used the program at all. So if you are able to generate a downline, then DeskTop Dollars is well worth your attention.

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