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      14.09.2012 18:22
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      Very good if making money but also has its bad points on how easy you can lose it

      Hello, Google Adsense may sound sweet and all great, for some it is and for some it is NOT! unfortunate for me I was minding my own business making videos on the daily basis and all off a sudden out of no were they disabled my account because someone decided to spam on the Advert. I see this as unfair because for one this is not my error and I'm thinking why not block the spammer rather than punish me who is enjoying the experiences of making videos as well as a little bit of cash that pushed me to making more videos for my fans.

      I notice alot of people loving this, making alot of money but if you get one person or two who knows how the systems work with google adsense they can simply ruin your account by spamming so you could be a genuine guy making money from clicks and have say £40 in your account and all of a sudden some spammer messes about they decide to disable your account and not give anything back that you have genuinely earn't.

      At first it is so addictive and inspires you to want to make more money so in a sense is smart because it drives you forward in a mature sense. If you got lucky enough to receive genuine advert clicks you can make good money considering you have weekly uploading of videos. Though like anything in life it starts of small and only gets bigger.

      Bad pointer about adsense, is that when you get disabled they allow you to appeal but it is a very light form with not much information on it nor does it allow you to speak your mind or fight your case so before you have submitted your appeal you have lost. I felt like this before appealing and i was right, It's ok because there is plently of ways to make genuine cash in life and i guess adsense was not for me. It is a risky website all down to if someone wants to ruin your account. "NOT FAIR" but thats how it is.

      How to sign up? pretty simple make a youtube, upload a video with no copy right and Monetize it and then make a adsense account put your URL from Yt into the form and there you go you got yourself account and so on.

      GOOGLE ADSENSE is a website that google owns, where you link any website you own or posting videos "youtube" where they put adverts on your videos or pages where you get a small % of money per click thought it is strongly suggested not to play with the click system because you will be banned. Though this site allows you too see your earning from the clicks your getting.

      Hope this helps those who are thinking about joining, just be be careful :)

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        06.01.2011 19:01
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        The Bottom Line Just a little extra way to earn a couple bucks

        Google AdSense.......How to make a internet solar system work for you.
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        This review is about making a solar system that will financially help you gain a few extra dollars a month and we all know that is a good thing. I will explain how to make your internet solar system and then show you how it works. I know that being articulate in details is what going to help you. And yes this theory is proven because I created it and have the facts to back this theory up. First off, we know the Sun is the main source of light heat. This planet is the most beneficial of them all. Get a piece of paper out and a pencil and let me show you how the internet theory is gonna make you smile, but it's also going to show you strength from all your hard work as a writer. Pencil in hand??? Lets begin.

        1. As the Sun is in the center of your universe, signing up for Google Adsense,Google Reader, Google Bookmarks, and Google Buzz is your starting point. Those of you that don't have a Google AdSense account will need to set up one. When you set up your account, just add the other Google programs I just stated. As of right now just add the programs and stop.

        2. Your inner Solar system. I write for 4 different review sites, Epinions.com, Lunch.com, Triond.com, and Gather.com . As these are my main attracters, they are also my main feeds into my Google . To set these groups up into your Google AdSense Set-up program, when going into set up you list these in the " Set Up Channel" category and activate them. If you write for Triond they are already set up for Google Adsense all you have to do it fill out your mailing address and other information. So every time anyone clicks on your review it adds a click to your Google Adsense Page Impression statistic. With these four review site planets set up, from November 11th 2010 until yesterday November 25th 2010 I have had 753 page impressions on my Google planet. Less than 14 days. But it gets even better !!!!!

        3. Your Outer Solar System. My blogs and social networks. Mine are Blogger.com, Netvibes.com, Facebook.com, Twitter.com and StumleUpon.com. All these Planets are my working review feeds are infested with people reading stuff all day. With these Out Solar System sites I was clicked on 947 times in the same 14 day period. Even though you have to set up accounts with each site, when your write a review just click on your site Share clicker and your review is now global.

        4. This Is How It Works. The more Outer Solar Internet Planets you have the better. Every time a person clicks on your Outer Sites than feeds into your review sites Like Epinions for example and that counts as a click for that review. As in Epinion reviews they have store listings, if the reader/consumer clicks on that store site implanted in the review it helps you out even more. But my final point is once that reader from the Outer Internet Solar System clicks on your review or blog, it streams down to your Inner Internet Solar System then stream to Google as a Page Impression. So you get paid from writing site then you get paid from Google at the AdSense program.

        I know it seems like a lot of work and it is. If you are like me with hundreds of reviews, I added 25 reviews that I've written everyday and still adding more everyday. The hardest part is getting your Google AdSense code and finding a site that will take it and that being your homepage for your AdSense program. Triond.com is the only place that I found that allows it.You won't see any impressions for about 48 hours after you sign up because it takes that long for Google to set you up in all their resources.

        Helpful hints to enrich your review. If you look at my reviews I list the product in my review title. This automatically streams on the global internet web if your writing about a product. Give or take about an hour or so to go through all the feeds from your writing site and them forming in their data base it will appear on the internet then. Make sure that you that all of your planets are align and that streaming feeds are set up correctly and you will see the difference in your clicks. Once the account is set up you can go into Google and then click on 'My Account" and see how many Page Impressions you had from your history. Then once you see it working, add on Google Analytical and even go more in depth with your account and add more features to your account and begin outsources more. As Spock said...Let the force be with you..

        Last footnote. Smear your name from your Google profile everywhere and on everysite you are on. If any Epinions member that is interested in this and is having problems, just give me a hollar.

        To prove how it works, I want to first thank you for reading my review and two for just sending Google a Page Impression for me..All you had to do was click on the review, that's how easy it works.
        Thanks for reading !!!

        This review was originated by me on Epinions.com

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          11.10.2010 15:44
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          You can try it, but don't get your hopes up!

          I had always wanted to blog, and came across 'Blogger' website reviews on Dooyoo, and decided I wanted to sign up to this free blog website.

          I then discovered Adsense, an advertising programme run by Google, and not having much experience with this side of the internet, I decided it sounded great, and immediately applied for it!

          It's free to sign up for and once I was approved, I thought "wow, this is going to be great for money making!" You pick the shape of the ads you want on your website, and you are allowed 3 adverts. I was excited about what was to come (especially when Google only run relevants ads to your site content!)

          I received a few click in the next few days and made just shy of £10. I then had got the blogging bug, and decided to take the plunge and buy my own domain. I then applied for Adsense once again on my new site, was approved and my three adverts appeared. I then never really used my original blogging website, and so because my new spiffy website was unknown to the world, I didn't receive any clicks.

          One day I thought I better sought out the payment side of Google Adsense, so that when I reached the payout level of £50, everything would be sorted and I would just receive my cheque in due course.

          Verifying your payment details is quite a lengthy process, and you have to apply for a PIN which Google will send you in the post. TWELVE hours after I applied for the PIN number, I received an email from Google saying my Adsense account had been disabled because of 'invalid clicks'.
          They then said that my money would be returned to the Advertisers, but if I wanted to appeal against their decision, I was to fill in the online form.

          So off I went, spending aaaagggeeesss filling in this form, and providing every tiny detail, explaining why I thought I had invalid clicks. I then received a reply 24hours later (which I believe is quite speedy for Google) saying that my appeal had been declined, and that I could no longer use Adsense!

          I then decided to Google (look how nice I am still using Google!) people having their accounts disabled for invalid clicks, and it turns out a LOT of people have problems. I could not find anyone who had actually had their appeal approved and their account restored!

          So then I went into a state of panic, thinking I've just paid for a new website, and no way of making any revenue! However, I soon discovered that Google Adsense is not the only advertising company out there! It might be the most well known, but it doesn't necessarily mean its better! Other sites include Adbrite, Infolinks, Widget Bucks, Kontera, Bidvertiser... so many other sites! I now use Adbrite and Infolinks, and so far have had no problems!

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            16.06.2010 23:17
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            A cracking advertising widget that all website owners can use.

            Adsense can for some people be the holy grail of making money online.

            For others it can prove to be rather disappointing and not financially rewarding.

            First things first all Adsense is is google's tool to tailor adverts into your website. For example if your website is about football and you place adsense adverts into your site its a good bet most of the links/adverts will be football related.

            The great thing about Adsense is the ease in which anyone can use it.

            You have a website? sign up to adsense, follow some simple steps to create the right size, colour ads and place the html code in the place you wish them to appear. Takes about 5mins tops!

            Google provides users with daily stats on earnings and traffic giving you a good idea on profits.

            The people that tend to complain about Adsense not generating them vast amounts of money tend to be the ones that do not have a great understanding of keywords, the amount certain keywords are worth over others and really tailoring an "adsense friendly" website which is conducive to those adverts.

            Lots of traffic through a website really does not mean it will automatically generate money via adsense.

            My advice is only think about using adsense once you have a well established site/blog, that has had time to get deep roots in search engines and lots of good keywords.

            Take a look at the 100's of adsense advice sites and the Do's & Dont's of setting up your site.

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              05.05.2010 17:26
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              Google Adsense

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              When you got your own website, it can never harm in wanting to earn a little bit of money, but the question is always how to do so? You don't want just any ads on your page that doesn't reflect your website. When you are writing mainly about movies, you don't really want to have ads that show ads for loans and other stuff. Your visitors will hardly click on those ads right? No you want ads that reflect your page and luckily Google have found the answer.

              The wonderful world of Google has also reached the world of ads and they come on with quiet a good system called Google Adsense. When you are a website owner you can sign up for an account for Adsense. Google will then review your application, they will check if your website is up to their standards, which means it's a serious website and not one that's been build in 5 minutes. I don't really know actually what they really look at, but they will let you know if you are in or out. Now the website says it will only take them a few days to do so, but that's hardly the case. On their forum you can read from the experience of other users that it can take up to several weeks. Mine was accepted just a little bit over a month.

              When they accept you, you can log in and from here you can choose your ad format and you will get a code that you need to put on your website, by this you have the ads from Google on your website. Google scans the substance of your website and place the right ad next to your page. If you don't like the ad showing on your website, you can go to your account to block this ad. This way you control what is placed. My experience is that these ads are quiet good with what I have writing on my page.

              So how do you make money? Well you don't get paid for just showing ads on your page. You only get paid when a visitor actually clicks on the ad. It really depends per ad what you will make. A click can earn you 1 pound, but more likely it will be something around 10 pence. So it's likely you won't get rich doing it.

              Is it a perfect system? Not perfect, but it's a good system. The problem is that Google doesn't tell how much money you can make per ad. You will find out if somebody clicked on an ad and by going into your account you can see a whole report of your earnings. Google is also very strict and hard when it comes to fraud. Don't ever click on your own ads, because the chances are that you will get blocked! I read many stories about people who got blocked and it's not easy to get it undone. Which is also a little bit scary, because they don't really have to explain themselves why they block your account.

              Payments are done by check or bank transfer but it can take up to a month before receiving your money. First you have to reach the 100 dollar limit, otherwise you can apply for a payout and then they will check your earnings. If everything is ok, then they will pay you.

              I like the system of Adsense. It's very easy to use and you can make a nice amount of money on it. I have been using it now for almost 5 months and made almost 200 pounds! Not a bad amount and hopefully it will only become more. You can imagine that I'm happy with the ads that are showing on my websites. You can log in to your account to see daily reports about your earnings. If you got a own website i would really recommend using Adsense and it's certainly worth the try!

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                12.02.2010 14:35
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                Thumbs Down!

                After dabbling with website creation over the last few years I finally found a niche and was getting a fair few visitors on my side (about 30,000 a month). Don't get me wrong I started the site because it was a topic I was interested in and was having fun doing it, but when given the option to earn a little back through advertising I thought brilliant it will help subsidise my hosting cost.

                Out of various other advertising schemes I chose Google AdSence because it was a brand I trusted and what they were saying sounded good. I got a few pence every time someone clicked on a link or an impression.

                I placed the advertisement on my website with no problem and where active within a few hours (HTML knowledge is needed for this and without you will probably fail miserably). The ads have been on my site now for over 6 months and despite getting several hundred clicks and near 500,000 impression I have get to earn over a fiver! And Google don't even send out any money till you reach £50 - I didn't fancy waiting 5 years!

                I can't see this form of advertising benefiting the site owner unless they get millions of hits a day and/or have thousands of high profile sites under their belt.

                I wasn't impressed by Google Adsense and am now in the process of arranging another form of advertisement - one which I will get a set amount per month (it might be in Amazon vouchers but it's still more than I ever got through Google!).

                I wouldn't recommend this form of advertising to anyone unless they have a extremely active site or many average sites. :)

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                  22.12.2009 22:50
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                  Very skeptical of its uses for smaller sites

                  Google Adsense is one of those ideas that is amazing in practise, given that it benefits both parties, but in execution, not so much. Not so much, that is, unless you have 100,000 visitors a day and can really push the revenue button and, of course, spend 9-5 every day working on how to optimise your site for this sort of thing. I do not, and that's probably why I've not earned a dime from Adsense.

                  I run a film review website that gets about 50 unique visitors a day (so about 1500 a month). I figured I'd dump some adverts on just for a kick, to see if I could generate even just a few pounds from my site. So, I registered with Adsense, got my account all sorted, and then pasted the code that I was given onto my site. It uses HTML, so very basic knowledge of how it works is a bonus if you want this to work quickly.

                  However, it wasn't long before I ran into a problem. After I generated a code for an ad box, I imputted it into my site, tested it, and the box was just a big white space. I was confused, tried numerous things, and then 3 days later, it just worked by itself. I had this problem several times after and became quite frustrated as it seemed that Google were taking an abnormally long time to approve my ads.

                  Anyway, a month on, I've stuck 3 ads on every page (their limit, I believe), and haven earned 2p in total! I even geared every ad to the films that I had on the page, but I've not enticed many people to click the ads, or further still, buy anything, apparently. I have had 1,820 impressions according to Google, none of which are worth their advertising dollar.

                  Maybe my site sucks, but I just couldn't get my head around it and abandoned it in the end, although I can't be bothered to remove the banners so Google are getting free advertising essentially. I'm also skeptical that their pricing structure is a trade secret.

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                  03.10.2009 20:18
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                  Recommended if you earn a large site but may not be worth it for everyone

                  Google AdSense is a great service that allows you to monetize your websites and blogs by simple advertisements.

                  Creating an account is very simple, if you already have a Google account you can use the same credentials or quickly set up a new one. Once you've entered in your details and website information Google will check them and then authorise your account. Now you can start earning!

                  The website's account interface is pretty easy to navigate, although the help section is slightly cluttered if you are unsure of what to do. That said there are various help guides for beginners. There are also various features to help you manage you account. Creating advertisements can all be done from a simple tab and html quickly copied into your sites web page. The account report section is also a handy way to view your earnings and relevant clicks.

                  Advertisements come in various shapes and sizes and you can also choose between image adverts or text adverts. The great thing here is that Google searches your site and places ads that are relevant to your website, this means that if you have a website on technology for example, all the adverts will be technology related increasing the likely hood of a visitor being interested in them. The great thing is that once you place the advert code on your site you don't need to spend time managing adverts, Google sorts that all out.

                  As for actual earning potential it is quite limited. You earn for every new visitor to your site (but this is an extremely small amount) and you earn for every time a visitor clicks through on an ad (slightly more, but still low). All this is calculated in your account earning you money. You only get paid by google when you reach the payment threshold (£100 I think). This seems like a lot of money but is extremely hard to meet (which is why it's so profitable for Google). The majority of small sites will NEVER meet this threshold so it's basically free advertisement for Google, and to add insult to injury the T&Cs do state that Google don't even have to pay you if your traffic is so small.

                  Overall Google AdSense is great if you own a large website that gets regular views, but for small sites and blogs it's really not worth it. You won't be making major cash from this site but it will act as a slight bonus after a few months.

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                    25.08.2009 01:44
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                    Where do you place your Adsence

                    Get Started with blogger and Google Adsence - If a topic interest you, you can be certain it's going to interest someone else. Those , people will come to your blog, read your comment and review, and click on your ads. You will be getting paid by Google to talk about your favorite subject. Making money doesn't get any better than that. You can update your blog with new entry as often as you wish, join blogging circles plenty of interested visitors in quickly and of course optimize your Adsense ads to blend them into the site and get traffic so that can improve your earning.

                    Okay now I think that you start your blog with Adsense unit at the top of page. Google thought lets you place up to three ad units on a page, one text unit and search box. Each ad unit will display unique ads so you won't spamming your uses with the same ads over and over again. The people at Blogger know this course and that's why they explain how to put another ad unit in the sidebar. You can find that guide at http://help.blogger.com/bin/answer.py?answer=974 Thank you.

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                      23.06.2009 09:59
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                      Don't count on AdSense to make you rich!

                      Google AdSense - the road to riches awaits you (not)! don't be fooled by the hype.

                      The premise is simple enough, you set up a site, you get lots of traffic- mainly by buying Google AdWords, which can cost you a fortune. Then you register separately for Google AdSense, this is your payback time. Just as you pay every time someone clicks on one of your Google AdWords, you will receive a small payout if you host an advert that is paid for in this way. The two work hand in hand. No problem there.

                      You register for your AdSense account and get a very nice dashboard so that you can manage you financial empire. You register your site map in whatever format you technical abilities allow, and wait for the Google bot to find it, and acknowledge it. If they don't, you have a big problem as there is no technical support. You can only get help from the FAQ and help pages as well as from other members, who don't seem to understand the term "I have already tried all that".

                      When you have been recognised, you use the AdSense dashboard to customise the adverts to your page. No sense having gardening adverts on a computer dictionary web page!

                      Alter the settings to get the right colour and style, seek out guidance as to style and position - it can make a big difference to your earnings, due to the specific way that human beings interact with the computer screen.

                      AdSense will generate some HTML code for you. This informs your web browser (Internet Explorer or Firefox for example) how to display your adverts. Then all you do is copy and paste the HTML code into your web page's HTML code at the point where you want the Advert to appear, and hey presto its there on your page as if by magic! Very impressive.

                      Where the problem comes in is that the whole system is not transparent. You have no idea how much you will be paid for each advert. You have no way of checking whether you have been paid for every click, you can't even check to see if all the adverts on you pages are payable as some might be free. You see if Google has not got enough paid content, it is at liberty to introduce free adverts. You don't know which ones are free and which ones attract a payment.

                      So you visit your dashboard and think to yourself, that's funny 100 click has earned me 50 cents Wowy! the next day 150 clicks has earned me 30cents Boo Hoo! Your dashboard will keep an account of everything for you so that you know how much you have earned each day and each month, but don't book flights to Acapulco just yet! Stick with DooYoo it's quicker and far more profitable!

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                        31.05.2009 16:57
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                        If you want to make money by putting advertising on your site, use Google Adsense for free.

                        I am quit the Google Adsense professional now and know it inside out. I've used the service for probably a little over 5 years and I have never experienced a problem. Little problems that have accured were solved in no time but didn't effect my daily earnings. Google have always been good to me so I'm really thankful to them for the opportunities they've provided me.

                        On average you can expect to earn a decent wager on 200 clicks or more a day but this really depends on your website content. For example my shopping directory provides good value clicks, however my recipe site provides less value clicks simply because recipe ads appear on my site but who's going to pay like 50p a time just to advertise there free recipe site.

                        That aside you won't be disappointed and if I'm honest you will not find a better and reliable service on the web. Once you've been a member for a few months you will start to see a pattern in your clicks but be sure to use Google Analytics to help you optimise your ads and improve your click rate.

                        Google will pay you monthly once you reach $100.00 but there's no better time as the conversion rate will mean you will earn a £200 UK pounds with $250 US dallors. I highly recommend you chose to get payed by bank transfer as you'll receive your money in no time. Cheques take forever to arrive and remember they come from America so it could be up to 2 or 3 weeks you'll be waiting.

                        Edit: You can now display your daily earnings, payments, and history in pound sterling. No more going to conversion sites... woohoo!

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                          27.05.2009 14:39
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                          If you've got a high-traffic site, Adsense is well worth it

                          Google Adsense allows you to display adverts on your website or blog in order to make a bit of extra income.

                          I've been a Adsense user for around 6 months now and I'm pretty impressed with it so far. Registration is free and easy and you can be displaying ads on your site in a matter of minutes.

                          Rather than choosing an advertising category or a specific advertiser, Google matches the ads to the content of your website. So, if your website is about football, your ads will be about football too.

                          There are several different sized advertising blocks to choose from, and you can specify if you want text ads or image ads or a combination of both.

                          An easy-to-use control panel keeps you up-to-date with how much money you've earned and which ads have been raking the most in.

                          Payments are made a month or so in lieu. So your January ads will be paid in the first week of March... assuming you've reached the $100 minimum payout limit. Payments are made by cheque or bank transfer, and have always been pretty prompt for me.

                          Adsense is a good product if your website has the visitor numbers to make it worthwhile.

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                            20.05.2009 21:03
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                            Just forget it, use AdBrite

                            Google adsense is an advertising network where publishers can find ads to place on their site and get payed for it and advertisers can pay to have their ads displayed on participating websites.

                            I have used adsense as a publisher and to begin with I was pleased with it. It was quite easy to set up and the ads were very well targeted and perfect for the audience of my site. I did find that the earnings were very low and slow.

                            Unfortunately I never got the chance to reach the extremely high minimum payout of $100 as one day they decided to suspend my account. They said it was for invalid click activity and this certainly was not down to me, this is all the information they gave me and would not tell me anything else regarding the matter even when I personally emailed them. I filled out the appeal form twice to try to get the suspension overturned however I never even got an email saying it had been turned down.

                            I have now discovered AdBrite which I believe is miles ahead of google adsense. So in a strange kind of way thank you google for disabling my account and motivating me to find a much better alternative.

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                              03.04.2009 12:21
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                              I Like Google Adsense.

                              Many people complain Google Adsense because it's so difficult to make money. It's true.

                              I already knew it before I applied to join Google Adsense for my blog. After six months of using it I should say I have learnt a lot from the plan.

                              What is Google Adsense?

                              Google Adsense is an AD affiliate program of Google. As a publisher you can make earnings by posting ads from Google on your website or blog.

                              How to join Google Adsense?

                              It's very easy and only takes a minute. You just need to log onto Google website and click Advertising programmes. Then you click sign up under Google Adsense item. In general you can get a reply from Google Adsense team in 7 days. If you are qualified for their plan you can start Google Adsense immediately.

                              How does it work?

                              After you open your Adsense account you can get as many as AD codes from Google. What you should do is just to copy the codes and paste them on the website you own. You have two options to make money: CPC (cost-per-click) and CPM (cost-per-thousand impressions).

                              My personal experience

                              To be honest after six months of joining the program I should say I find it more difficult to make a penny than I can conceive of it. However I do enjoy the time and efforts I have spent on it.

                              At beginning I even did not know how to post an AD code on my blog, so I had to study from ABC through Google Adsense help centre. The progress to resolve the problems I came across with Google Adsense made me happy. The more I learnt the more I should say it's a very intelligent, but easy program.

                              When you post the Ad code you get from Google Adsense on your site, after a couple of seconds the ads would appear there. They basically match your website, no matter colours, styles and contexts. It's amazing and fun.

                              Sometimes after submitting an article on my blog I'm curious to see what kind of Ads would appear. Compared to many people I don't mind reading advertisement. I think a good AD must have their intelligence and wisdom inside. I enjoy finding them out.

                              Granted that the earnings are slim, but I would still recommend it to you if you have a blog or website. Just remember to work hard to make your website really attractive and you will get more chance of visitors clicking on your ad.

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                                A nice little addition for your website, but don't expect it to make you rich.

                                Google adsense is a nice way to earn a bit of extra money for free from your website. You basically sign up for an adsense account through Google. If your site gets accepted they will send you an e-mail to confirm this.

                                Each time you bring up Google on your computer, in the top right hand corner there will be an option to log on to your account. In your adsense account, Google will supply you with a code that you simply copy and paste onto each page of your website that you want Google Adverts to appear. They are small text adverts with a link to the website it is advertising at the bottom and Google select them to relate to your website. For example if you have a photography website, the adverts will be for camera stores, photography studios and other photography related products or services. These adverts are changed on a regular basis, but once you have implemented the code onto your site, that's your work done. Just sit back and let your adverts do the work.

                                You get money into your account each time visitors to your site click on the adverts. It is not much, usually just a few pence and it probably won't make you very rich unless you have a lot of adverts with a lot of traffic. It is however, easy to set up and no maintenance to do on your part, so any money you get from the adverts is a bonus for you. You can also remove the adverts when you wish by removing the code from your website. By logging on to your Google account you can keep track on how much money you have earned.

                                I do find all the reports a little confusing I must admit, and I don't really understand them all fully, but all I'm really interested in is the part that tells me if I have made any money!

                                The only drawback is that you have to wait until you have earned $100 (around £50) before you can see any of your money. I think I might be waiting a long time!

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