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I bought this keyboard for my now husband a couple of years ago, when we lived in a flat with not much room at the computer. He would regularly moan about not being able to sit far enough back from the screen while typing, and the keyboard and mouse combo seemed like it would provide a good solution to that. Also in its favour was the fact that it was cool and techy (a good thing in our house!) and that it didn't have any wires hanging out which would look untidy. However at just under £80 at the time, it wasn't by any means cheap when you consider that you can pick up standard kit for little more than £20 or so.
So far, I haven't used either the keyboard or mouse much, however I have been using it more lately, and thought I would offer my opinion. The main reason for me not having used it much, mind, has been because it's already been in use and I've been relegated to the standard keyboard set up of the other computer.
So, I hear you cry, what's it like then?
Well, it's immediately obvious on first sight that this is not your normal keyboard. It's what is called an ergonomic keyboard, one designed to help keep your hands and wrists in healthy positions when typing - or at least healthier positions than that offered by a more traditional keyboard layout. What this means in practice is that your keyboard is rather curvy in both look and feel, with its highest point being in the centre and falling away on all sides to the edge.
The main keys are also positioned differently, being broken into two seperate blocks, one featuring (in the standard qwerty layout) qwert, asdfg and zxcvb for the left hand, and yuiop, hjkl, and nm for the right hand. The space bar bridges the two areas, which works well. This layout is fine if you have been taught to touch type , but I think it would be slightly more difficult if you, like so many others, are still a two-fingered typist.
Even if you are a touch typist, it isn't as intuitive to start using as you might assume. For instance, during the course of writing this review I have discovered that I type a b with my right hand by instinct - and under most touch typing courses, you have the choice of using either hand to hit the b with. Logitech, however, have decided that the b key belongs on the left hand side, only available for your left hand to strike. In addition, possibly because of years spent using standard keyboards, I find that when reaching for keys with my little fingers I miss them and hit the key on the line below - for example hitting enter instead of backspace was a common problem at first (try it, it's *really* annoying!). Some of the keys are oversized to make the two parts of the keyboard slightly more square, which means that if you are typing from notes (ie reading and not looking at the screen very often) then you don't always realise that you've missed the key you wanted, as clearly you hit something in the position where you'd expect it to be. All fairly small things, I know, but they do add up to creating something that I'm not sure I like.
On the rest of the keyboard there's a standard number pad - no changes to the standard layout there, though - and the usual home/end.insert/page up/page down/delete keys in a small block. The arrow keys again are laid out in a standard fashion, without being set at an angle as so much of the rest of the keys have been.
At the top of the keyboard there are a number of buttons, most of which can be programmed to act as shortcuts. You need to have the Logitech software installed to do that (a CD-rom comes in the box with your keyboard and mouse). If you don't programme them differently, they lead to your internet home page, email client and so on. There's a second group of shortcut buttons that have the play/stop/fast forward/rewind symbols on them, close to the mute and volume control functions, although that's not something that either of us have used.
The mouse is again a rather strange shape if you've only ever seen them in the standard shape. Again it is shaped ergonomically, in a bid to prevent RSI in users and provide more comfort. Where your thumb would rest is another extra button, this one is a back button to help you navigate the internet. Or, when I used it, press accidentally and make me lose a half-written review (*sob*). On the whole the mouse seems on the large size - my hands aren't especially small, but I do have problems using it for any length of time, as it feels like I'm always having to stretch to reach the buttons or to avoid pressing the wrong thing.
Being wireless, the keyboard and mouse both operate on batteries. The keyboard needing 2 AA batteries (rechargeables work fine) and the mouse needing 2 AAA batteries. To my mind it would be better if they took the same batteries, otherwise you need to keep buying two sorts, or stock up on different sized rechargeable batteries and keep spares charged. Having said that, battery life is actually fairly good, needing to be replaced slightly more often in the mouse than in the keyboard.
The power from the batteries allows the keyboard and mouse to send signals to the small device that plugs in the back of your computer. It goes into two ports, which can be either USB or standard mouse/keyboard ports. I've never experienced a problem with the communication between computer and mouse or keyboard (unless the batteries were dead!), and it allows you to be several metres away before failing to register keystrokes or clicks. Response time is just as good as with a standard wired keyboard and mouse.
Overall, I think that the idea is a good one, I'm all for a clean and tidy looking desk without wires cluttering up the place. However I think that this design of keyboard falls down by being just that little bit too different for me to cope with easily. I find using this and then moving onto a standard keyboard or vice versa requires a period of adjustment which is both frustrating and irritating. However, if the only keyboard you were going to use was this one, I would think it worth the while to relearn elements of your typing skills in order to protect your hands and wrists from repetitive strain injuries.
While I wouldn't really recommend it as a product generally, if you have wrist problems after typing for extended periods, then it would certainly be worth investigating.
First off the word Cord-less means exactly that: no cables. I consider myself an active pc using guy... i have a scanner, a printer, ups lots of audio devices, that ends up with more cables than a NASA console so the solution whould be wireless equipment. So the technology is basicly radio waves dependand and that automaticly brings up the power problem. Well with this desktop package (keyboard+mouse) you won't have much to worry about. So no 3 day use than change the battery then another 3 days etc.For a 14 houres a day user the battery only needs changing once evrey month. The distance is preety good (about 2 meters) but still its enought. So let's take it one object at a time. 1)The keyboard Most ask me "why the curves? can't you use a rectangular keyboard like evreyone else?".The secret is ergonomy! Even when i had to write 40 pages of essay i felt confortable and dident experiance any muscle aches. Except from that it's your usual button configuration so no need to readapt. Some extra keys whould be nice but not evreyone is a audio mixer or a hardcore net surfer. The only problem i had was the setup so you can't use it until you got the drivers in. 2)the mouse It's your regular day-to-day mouse and it feels like it just molds into your hand.Problem: it uses a ball and as most people know it can be a pain to clean. Overall it's a good product and higly sugested if you want to get rid of your old cordy mouse/keyboard.
Modern life contains a number of frustrations; automated call centres, road cones and of course, all the wires that seem to breed and tangle around electronic devices!!! Computers are no exception, but traditionally the keyboard and mouse wires cannot get stuffed behind the desk, they are there in view and generally get in the way. I purchased this product, which comes with a stylish cordless mouse, about a year ago and have been using it ever since. I choose it because I liked the design of the keyboard and I had heard good reviews about other Logitech products. It would be true to say that having no wires is fantastic. The magic is a simple little receiver which just plugs into the back of the PC (Very easy, as easy as unplugging your current keyboard and mouse cables!!!) There is a limit to the range which your keyboard and PC stay in contact and this varies a bit depending where you place the receiver, but this shouldn't be a problem for most users. Certainly a lot further than my old cables would stretch!! There is a CD that contains the drivers to allow your PC to understand what is going on which loaded up without problem. However I make a valuable point here. If you ever reformatt yor PC you will need a "plug in Keyboard" as until you load the drivers you cannot use the keyboard!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sensible but it didn't cross my mind until recently when I did just that! Thank goodness I hadn't thrown my old cable keyboard away!!!!!!!!!! The Logitech keyboard looks a little different to most standard keyboards that are supplied with PC's, but I find it much more comfortable to use. It looks and feels good and the keys offer a pleasent touch sensation. No cheap plastic feel here. No key clicks either, although there is some key noise. The keyboard has a number of user and multimedia "shortcut" keys but I have never used them. Unlike most keyboards there is no keyboard indication of CAPS
and NUM lock, however indications do appear on your PC tool bar in the bottom right hand corner. Fitting your palm comfortably, the mouse is pleasing to use and doesn't seem to require constant cleaning. It is responsive and has a left and right button, and a useful side mounted (thumb) button which signals a double left click to your PC. A little wheel is provided for scrolling up and down. All in all a very useful mouse. A couple of small AA batteries in the keyboard and mouse provide the energy to send the signals to your PC and I have only replaced mine once so far. A screen message advises that the battery power is getting low a short time before they "run out" There are many cordless keyboard and mouse products on the market and I haven't tested any others as I have been very happy with this product. This offering from Logitech is pleasent to use, reliable and stylish. Of all the upgrades you may make to your PC, this will be one of the best. After removing the traditional cords you will never go back (except during reformatting!!) and you will wonder why it has taken so long to purchase a cordless keyboard and mouse. The cost of this product is about eighty pounds, but it is worth having a hunt around the web sites for deals. Thanks for Reading Cirrus Revised July 2003
Surely the keyboard and mouse have to be one of the most, if not the most important part of a system. So when one of my relatives bought me this keyboard and mouse, I thought I would give it a shot. At first I was unsure of the unusual design of the keyboard and mouse; the keyboard is a 'natural' one, and the mouse is also an unusual shape. Here's what I thought of it: Connecting and installing The first thing I noticed was that the receiver box could be connected to the computer in one of two ways; either by USB or PS/2. In the manual it recommends connecting by PS/2 if you have one available (the little round standard keyboard and mouse ports), but I decided to use the USB port since I have 8 of them on my computer/monitor! Connecting was not hard, and was done within a minute. Then came a tricky task; trying to position the receiver box 8 inches away from anything electrical. That rules out obvious positions such as on top of the computer tower itself, or next to the monitor. Luckily, it doesn't matter if anything electrical is in between the mouse and keyboard and receiver box, so I eventually found a position for it. Then I had to install the batteries into the device. The keyboard uses 2xAA batteries and 2xAAA, which I think are included, but I'm unsure as this product had already been opened by the person that bought it for me. They're not very expensive anyway, and you'll probably have a few lying around. The installation of the keyboard and mouse was also a little tricky, as I use Windows XP and so I have to use the keyboard to press CTRL-ALT-DEL before I have chance to install any hardware. At first it didn't work, the mouse wouldn't move and the keyboard did nothing. I was immediately a little bit concerned that maybe it wasn't compatible with Windows XP, but a quick look in the manual revealed a red note: COMPATIBLE WITH WINDOWS XP. Phew.... So then I read the manua
l. I don't usually read the manual before installing a piece of hardware, but I admit that in this case my 6 years of PC experience didn't prepare me for the installation of this. The manual solved my problem, I had to press a little 'connect' button on the underside of the keyboard and mouse which told them to communicate with the computer. Once I'd done that it worked fine without any extra software required. However, there is some 'iTouch' software provided which can be installed to improve the experience, and set what certain shortcut keys do, such as a small 'thumb-button' on the side of the mouse. The cordless experience: Good points I must say, my original doubts about this hardware were not existent. The range of these devices is outstanding; the mouse will work from in a different room, although why you would ever want to use it from this distance is a mystery to me. The layout of the basic keys on the keyboard also seems to be quite good, although it did take a bit of getting used to. I have noticed that I make less typos with this keyboard, as where my hands would normally get in a bit of a tangle in the middle of the keyboard, they no longer do as each hand has its keys clearly assigned; left hand on the left side of the keyboard and right hand on right side. Having the freedom to move both the keyboard and mouse out of the way when not in use is also very useful. This means that desk space normally taken up by keyboard and mouse can now be reclaimed when they are not in use, they can simply be picked up and moved to anywhere you like, for example to be stored in a cupboard. The shortcut keys on the keyboard are also relatively useful and cover most basic but handy functions: Internet, email, search, mute, volume, play/stop/previous/next (for Media Player and a standby button. There is also a 'Logitech' button, which probably launches the Logitech software if installed, b
ut since it is not installed on mine it launches Calculator (not exactly useful for me but not a big loss). The mouse is very large but should be suitable for all ages. In my house there are children of as young as 8 who although have commented that the mouse and keyboard are a 'funny shape' can easily use it. The cordless experience: Bad points As can be expected with any new design for a product, it has its down sides. The keyboard layout around the other keys is not very good at all. The Home, Insert etc. key bank is now in 2 columns and three rows, why they have done this is a mystery to me as it seems much harder to use. Also the Print Screen, Scroll Lock etc. keybank have been moved and are now above the number keypad. Although this is not a major downside, it can sometimes be hard to re-adjust to these. One of the biggest downsides for me is the lack of a light to show when the Scroll Lock, Caps Lock or Num Lock are turned on. It seems as if they literally forgot to add them, there are no lights on the keys themselves or on the rest of the keyboard, or on the screen. Very unusual. Another downside is the size of the keyboard. It is much larger backwards than any of my previous keyboards, and although this is not a problem for me I can imagine that it would be a problem for some people. Should YOU buy it? Whether you should buy it or not depends on your needs and usage. If you use the keyboard and mouse for hours on end, you should certainly consider it, but firstly check that you can re-adjust to the new keyboard layout and mouse design. If you would like to reclaim some desk space, then this product is for you. When you have finished with your computer you can easily move this keyboard and mouse to one side (or another part of your house/office if you like), and use the desk for something else. If you only use your computer occasionally and have a dedicated workstation for your computer and
a separate desk, you wont really see the advantage of having this keyboard. UPDATE! I have just installed the proper iTouch software and it does provide a tasktray display of whether Caps Lock and Num Lock are on (can also be set to show whether scroll lock is on). However, they arent exactly nice icons and hardware indications would have been better. Also in the iTouch software, the individual shortcut buttons on the keyboard/mouse can be programmed to do a number of things (virtually anything actually!) There is also a very handy configuration screen which shows how good the battery life is, although I obviously don't know how reliable this indicator is yet. Will report back when I've had this keyboard a bit longer if anything changes.
Logitech have released a new mouse and keyboard……but they’re cordless! If you are thinking of changing your mouse or keyboard, why not replace them both? Logitech’s cordless desktop is the name, and giving you cordless access is it’s game! This really is a keyboard and mouse that doesn’t rely on cables to connect it to the personal computer. Instead, both mouse and keyboard are battery-powered and send signals to a port on the back of the computer. Since it works by radio-signals, performance isn’t affected by line of sight to the receiver. This means undesirable bits of computer can be tucked away. This duo of objects work very smoothly and feel great in your hand. You can even take the mouse to a different room and the mouse will still work! Another great benefit about this product is that you can sit back and relax on your bed and type rather than being stuck on an uncomfortable swivel chair. Highly recommended product!
The luxury of not having to have trailing cables all over the desk initially attracted me to the Cordless Desktop Pro. The keyboard and mouse combo works extremely well as a solution to that age old problem. I just wish every other peripheral was also cordless! I’ve been using the keyboard and mouse combo for around a year now, and it’s not only the most comfortable set of input devices I’ve used yet, it’s one of the most stylish. The silvery and curved Cordless Mouseman Pro fits snugly into my hand, with three buttons plus wheel within easy finger reach, while the split-design curved Keyboard is perfectly situated under the hand reducing RSI (so it seems). The downside is that A) You cannot leave your mobile phone near your transmitter/receiver (that plugs into your PS2/Serial ports) and B) Your batteries do need replacing quite frequently. It also costs more than a regular keyboard and mouse combo. and does not sport cool new features such as coloured LEDs, optical sensors, and vibration feedback, as featured in Logitech’s latest USB iFeel mouse series. Al in all I’d thoroughly recommend this, especially if you want to hide that ugly beige box. Logitech recently released a USB version compatible with the Playstation 2 and iMac – so if ever you fancy playing games on your PS2 like Unreal Tournament, or need a replacement to the awful keyboard and mouse supplied by Apple, then this is ideal.
I've got to say, right up front, that mouse and keyboard cables don't bother me. Sure, mouse cables can occasionally snag in the middle of a hectic game, and the keyboard curly cord is one more cable in the mess behind my computer, but really, I'm OK with it. It's not a problem. I'm happy. Getting the Cordless Desktop going is simple enough. The receiver's five foot colour-coded leads terminate in PS/2 connectors, and there are adaptors included for a standard 5 pin DIN connector for the keyboard and a 9 pin serial plug for the mouse. So you should be able to hook up the receiver to any IBM compatible. Overall the main disadvantage of the keyboard is the feel it has. I especially found the keys hard to press when typing, maybe this has a limit to how fast you can type, I am not sure. However if people are able to put up with this 'feel' for the cordless feature, then I'm sure it will eventually wear into shape.
TThis is one keyboard that will not die. I have gone trough three differetn computers and the only original componant is my keyboard. Diamond have made a real hard wearing device here. It has suffered at my hands all sorts of abuse yet still goes on. The quality is good getting good responce and feel all for a good price. These ease of installing is a pleasure, not to fiddlly inder win 98 or 95. This is a good quality robust product that really will last a life time of constant use. When this one dies I will by another. Opps just broke the return key, talk about fate!