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I have owned 4 Paneuropean motorcycles these started off with a 1991 some 10 years ago and quickly found that these were awsome machines and I used it whereever I went. I decided to upgrade to a newer model after 99,900 miles and one new collector box and bought the 1100 wineberry red, this one started at 58,000 miles and I had to replace the exhaust system after 9 months again another beautiful machine that gobbled up the miles with ease, she started evry time on the button and had no serious faults, these machines are bullet proof as long as you have a regular oil change regime. Then alas I made the mistake of upgrading to a 1300 Pan, after 6 months the engine gave up the ghost (something that Honda said could not happen) and then they gave me a price for a cam shaft (duh). Replaced with a 2nd hand engine because Honda do not sell engines as they do not blow up, yeah right. More troubles from that very disappointing machine, never again, so I got rid. I have now reverted to the 1100 and have purchased a 1998 model, I have had to replace cosmetic damage and a new set of silencer cans but at 60,000 miles and a good price of £1600 I feel that I have come back to a very decent well tested machine. I will never buy another ST1300, and if you look at it sensibly the police got shot of thiers as well, long live the ST1100.
I have had my black ST1100 for over 8 years. To and from professional engagements, around the dreaded M25 and to the West Country and Wales. I have had a fair few bikes over the years including Japanese and some now much sought after British bikes. It's now approaching 13 years old and still looks and goes as it should. Yes it's not a sports bike, but other vehicles still disappear from your rear view mirror pretty damn quickly. It simply has no equal. It's the finest bike I have ever owned or ever will. Really it feels like a mate that never lets me down and takes me everywhere I want to go as if on high speed cream. I am now 65 years old and I will continue to ride it for as long as I can hold it up. Peerless...
I purchased my W reg 2000 Pan European ST1100 non ABS model two weeks ago and rode it home from Doncaster to Warrington along the M62 in the worst weather imaginable.A steep learning curve but a very enjoyable ride non the less.I only passed my test in May of this year (I'm 55) and bought a Honda Deauville as my first big bike.It was a good bike but I fancied something bigger.Hence the Pan.For such a big and heavy bike,the handling is surprisingly flexible and agile.I expected it to just fall into bends but it doesn't and corners with ease.This isn't a sports bike by any stretch of the imagination but after the Deauville the performance always puts a smile on my face! The only two niggles I have about the Pan are the screen which is a bit low for my height (5ft 9ins) and causes quite a lot of buffeting.The other niggle is the weight.At over 300Kg fueled up it's quite a lump to try to wheel in and out of the garage.Those aside,the faring is good for keeping most of the bad weather off and the paniers are adequate for weekends away.Any regrets about buying a Pan? No way,anything that can make me smile this much is a winner.When I can afford it I will swop it for an ST1300 but I'll enjoy it for a few years first.
My Pan runs out only on distance trips only, WSB in europe Northwest 200 i have never had a problem been on Pans since moving down from a 1500 wing s.e. in 1995 The bike is fast and stable at speed will easily carry luggage for 2 people for 2 weeks, fitted with Givi 52ltr top case. last run saw 3896 miles in 12 days through Holland, Germany, Austria, Italy, France and Belgium average 48.7 mpg. I sevice the bike myself every 4000 miles, tyre wise i get 10000 miles rear and 5000 miles front the only niggle i have is with turbulance from side winds i have changed lanes on the Autobahn at 110 mph not recommended !!! you will struggle to find a better all round bike trust me i have tried and failed !!!!
Hi..... looking for purchase information re- Honda ST1100 Pan European ex police bikes.... Where do you find them, they sound really good, would like to buy one . Any one... email me at email@example.com
I bought my 1998 pan non abs model in august 2007 with 10k on the clock its a great bike. But after riding it 200yds down the road i was really disapointed with the wind noise from the screen,I have since changed the screen to a 20" the standard is 16"but it hasnt made that much of a diference I have also bought & fitted a plate that fits under the fairing below the headlight to minimise the noise. However still getting hellish wind noise so looking for another higher screen ,But apart from that the bike has been spot on & there isnt much you cant get off ebay for them apart from a high screen.So if your looking for one of these & are under 6ft tall jump at it its one of the best bikes i have owned & have had a few in my day from Yamaha FJ1200 to old BMW boxers & K series the honda wins hands down on looks & reliability + you can get around 200 miles on a tank of petrol ideal for the touring i have planned this year doing Europe & have no doubts about the bike what so ever
Hi, Could anyone out there help? if poss the total wet weight of a police spec ST1100 or where i could obtain information. regards simon.
Very good machine. Heavy at low speed but after things get rolling it handles great. Reliable and comfortable. Easy to maintain and durable. One of the few weak points is the exhaust which tends to rust hard in salty climats. Same thing for the rear arm. But when inspected regular and properly maintained not a real problem.
Inspection and lubrication of the splines of the rear-end is required. And not that many dealers know how to do this properly. use a good moly-grease! (Honda 60%)
Falling over can be expensive since Honda charges you big money for every tiny piece. The good thing is that the engine is protected for such accidents with a great pair of guards. Mirror will just snap of in most cases but can be attached again without damage. Good design. In most cases nothing is hurt. Apart from some scratches in the black plastic covers.
The version(s) with ABS-TCS-CBS (1996 and later) is to be preferred although ABS-TCS is available since 1993.
One of the other problems is that these bikes are expensive....but on the other hand they keep there value well. For a good reason.
Bike is capable of running >200k miles if properly maintained. See also 3w st1100 dot org for tips and discussions.
The design is not that attractive compared to its new sister the ST1300 but good enough for me.
One of the things that must be replaced anyway is the wind screen. The original one creates too much turbulence and noise. Better by a MRA (in germany) or other brand.
I've owned 8 bikes and ridden more.
The Pan is by FAR the best. Went on a 550 mile two day trip to celebrate its arrival and it was brilliant. Got a bit numb in the seat in the last hour, but -hey- apart from that sooo comfortable!
It took the M25 in the rush hour (in the rain) in its stride. I never rode something this sure footed before. Amazing acceleration and handling too!
My previous experience of motorcycle riding over the past 12 years has covered Just about every work horse out there. I average about 60k miles per year in all weathers and terrains in the UK and boy have I worked through enough bikes over the years. I have been known to crack the whip here and there and to do a 1500 mile trip over a single weekend so please believe me I know what makes a good bike.
The best bike I have ever ridden is the ST1100 Pan European Full Stop! This machine has recently replaced my beloved Yamaha XJ900. Dont get me wrong, I loved my XJ did over 80k miles on her, its just some knob in a green Toyota had a close encounter with me and the XJ came off the worst!
Back to the plot, The Pannie is just so easy to glide/race/cruise along with. You wont believe how quickly this lump of a bike screeches up to 60 (dont forget to change into second gear at this point) and how it is cheaper to run at high speed! The comfort, heated legs and hands (no kidding), amazing protection from the elements and superb handling makes it surreal to ride and with the petrol tank below the seat it isnt top heavy like it looks. You wont find a better bike.
Forget all the opinions you hear you surely dont want to read 12 pages of why you should get one, simply take one out for a test drive and experience it for yourself. Fancy a Sports Tourer/Cruiser/Work Horse, forget it save wasting years of your life on toys and get yourself a Pan!
I am currently on my second Pan. It is without doubt the best bike I have ever owned. It does all I really want from a bike. It is fast (that is 'usably fast'), forgiving, and supremely reliable. Fuel consumption is OK and the handling is good. I also ride them in connection with my job (a white one - guess what I do) and all the people on my team rate them very highly. Several own their own. I Have several friends who are MAC instructors (another clue) who also own their own Pans. I'd never knock sports bikes, classics or trailies - but if you can only afford one bike you cannot do better than a Pan. It just will not let you down. If I were re-designing it I would make the seat height adjustable a la BMW, give it an adjustable screen and higher bars - but really that is just nit picking. The bike is near spot on as it is. I think I would give it heated handlebars as standard in the UK , plus the deflector kit which is excellent. Overall it will do almost all that you could want from a bike, AND keep its looks for a long time. Five Stars!!! (Additional comment July 2002) - I have yet to ride the New Model of the Pan. It looks good, though expensive. I bet Honda lower the price to make it more competitive. The adjustable screen SHOULD have been standard on both versions in my opinion. I will have to reserve judgement on whether it is better than the old model. The 'old uns' are going to be a hard act to better.
The Pan was introduced to try and diminish BMW?s control over the big tourer market, and the spin -off police, paramedic and service patrol bikes. That demanded a large capacity, comfortable, reliable and good luggage hauling machine, with a shaft drive to do away with messy chains, and loads and loads of torque to do away with having to change gear. To add a little distinction to the bike, other than the usual square meters of bodywork, the engine was configured as an in line V4. My first impression of the bike was that it was big, heavy, very flexible, and yet surprisingly nimble. Stationary, and at very slow speeds, the height where the mass is carried is inescapable, and the bike has an alarming ability to feel as though its going to drop into every turn, but after a few miles my grip on the bars loosened, and I could stop worrying about sending it down the road on every turn, and think more about its creature comforts. The seat for rider and pillion was superb, the screen and fairing kept my bits warm from literally head to toe, and the engine behaved like a turbine offering effortless stonk, and an interesting turn of speed as the revs hit the 4500 mark. A great tourer but for one niggling fault. Even with my modest frame, there was far too much weight on my arms, and my hands and wrists soon became tired, very quickly at town and city speeds. All in all a great bike for starship mileage if you can adjust to the bars.
Since 1997 I have been responsible for puchasing and maintaining our fleet of six Paramedic Pan's. These bikes have proved to be ultra reliable and although they come with Honda's standard two year warranty and AA cover none of them have needed anything more than their routine servicing (excluding accident damage). Each bike covers about 25000 miles per year under extreme conditions so they have a very hard working life. Ours don't carry pillions but due to the medical kit they have to carry they are loaded up to the maximum weight allowed by the manufacturer and are ridden none stop for eight hours at a time. We also operate five BMW's and although they are older, the difference in their maintainance and running costs has proved to be significantly in favour of the Honda The only part of the bike that is changed before it's put into sevice are the tyres ....my advice is to fit BT's as soon as possible they are superb in all conditions. They aren't a sports bike by any stretch of the imagination but in the right hands they are more than capable of making a sportbike rider look pretty silly. Their main job is for carrying large loads together with rider and pillion across vast distances in supreme comfort at very high speed and at this moment in time I dont think that they have an equal. I was lucky enough to be asked to ride one from Staffordshire to Strasbourg last year and totaled about 1300 miles in a weekend thrashing around the French countryside....before we left I asked the organiser what were the arrangements for picking up broken down or stranded bikes on route ....he looked at me and said we are all going to be on Honda's we wont need one and sure enough thirty bikes and riders did the entire trip with not one mechanical fault. The service bikes are mostly standard except they have slightly higher bars than normal and an uprated electrical syst
em in order to cope with the strobes, radio, siren, head light flasher etc the only major disadvantage is that carrying maximum weight means rear tyres need changing every 3500 miles. The latest have abs and traction control .....both superb bits of kit and highly reccommended ...it's the bike of the decade for my money