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I have bought used Piaggio B125 Scooter and have been riding it for a couple of days so far.
I really like it and there is much to like it: sturdy feel, very comfortable sitting and suspension, a lot of room for your knees if you have got long legs like myself. Riding is smooth and a pleasure. I have got it with top box and side panniers already fitted so I have plenty of storage.
I share the mentioned cold start problem though if I do not give it a couple of minutes before going to the first junction I get myself into trouble.
The downside of side-panniers is that having them fitted makes it hard to put the bike onto its stand. The bike is heavy and in my opinion especially great for taller chaps. You need to have some strength to keep it straight and under control (maybe it is a matter of skills though). The previous owner was a tiny lady and there are obvious marks on side panniers indicating it has fallen several times.
I made my CBT on Suzuki EN 125 (the only thing I can compare it with) and can share some remarks on the differences (as far as one can compare scooter to manual g/b motorcycle).
* B125 is much more comfortable to seat
* When speeding B125 behaves more stable in my opinion
* overall feeling is that B125 is sturdier and safer
* B125 is heavier and it is harder to put it on stand and more strength is needed to keep it straight
* Mirrors in B125 give much better view are placed wider so sturdy jacket does not limit your view.
* obviously automatic transmission makes B125 so easy to handle
* controls are much better:
** on Suzuki when cancelling indicator you can mistakenly switch it
to wrong position or turn beam light on.
** B125's electronic counters on and failure indicators rock
that with B125.
* EN125 seem to have more reliable engine start
Cold start issue: Before taking off I rev the engine couple of times and now it is OK.
Petrol usage: My bike makes stable 75-78 mpg in the city on plain Tesco fuel.
got my piaggio b125 2 weeks ago, i love it its so reliable good to ride and looks good would highly recomend this scooter to anyone. best thing i ever bought
So youre doing your scooter shopping and are tempted by names such as Jet Force and the like with a max speed of 70mph and an engine that sounds like banshees who have accidentally caught their testicles in a vice.
These bikes have their components pushed to the limit and unless youre careful with them, their fancy fuel injectors will need replacing and the cost will just explode. If youre looking for something sensible then youre looking at the right place, as long as you can stomach the name... Beverly - now who thought that was sexy?
The chassis for this bike is almost the same as is used for the 500cc model and practically identical to the 200cc model, which means its heavy (150kg-ish), having good road holding but if you want to be pushing it around the side of your house or up a steep drive you might want to go to the gym a few months in advance of buying. The chassis being designed for a larger engine means that the parts have much more redundancy in them, and arent running near their limit. Big wheels also contribute to the weight, however if you have any common sense youll accept this trade off. Large diameter thin wheels are great for potholes as youre more likely to come out of them still on the bike, small fat wheels are great for road holding as a larger area of the tyre is in contact with the road. Large diameter, fairly fat wheels are a brilliant combination and combined with suspension from motorcycles means you get a great ride and decent road holding.
From new the mileage isnt great at around 60mpg, but this should improve with running the engine in and when yours truly gets better at riding. This brings us on to the engine, which is looking to be an issue. Assuming the engine is similar to the one found in the Gilera Runner (also made by Piaggio) it would appear to have inherited the same cold start problems, but more concerning is that my particular sample has a habit of cutting out, even when the revs are on. This only happens when the bike has been left overnight, however if it happens when pulling out of a junction it could be dangerous and takes some starting again once it happens. The odds are this bike is going back for warranty repair.
When its running, youre looking at a decent, nippy bike which will cruise at 60mph without complaint, but youll always wonder what if youd gone for the Runner next to it for that little bit more acceleration, but you always remember that those big wheels keep you on the road and any scooter is going to be able to beat most cars off the line I just wish mine wasnt going back.
Other points the display is excellent with the only flaw being that kph is in larger numbers and mph is smaller, however this is easy to get used to. Side stand makes life easier and you cant fit a helmet under the seat.
UPDATE: It looks like the cold start problem is resolving nicely as the engine gets run in and the power isn't dropping off when cold as before - I'd still be sure you don't have problems before you leave the shop. There's nothing like getting on your bike for the first time, it cutting out while you're trying to nip out of a junction infront of that bus and having your mum engrave "I told you so" on your headstone.
UPDATE2: Turns out the problem is with the automatic choke - probably a faulty thermistor or something silly... One peice of advice; use BP fuel! I've got 70mph out of this thing, where some fuels struggle to make it to 60mph.
I traded up to a B125 in April 2003,having previously had a 50cc typhoon. The bike is a great ride and being a hi-wheeled scoot is also safer. The digital clock/computer is a fantastic addition and the instrument panel/lighting is one of the best Ive seen. I commute every day on it and found it excellent on juice. I sometimes feel like carrying on past work,its such an enjoyable ride! Is there a downside you ask? Well, yes. Only on the accessories side. I ordered a top box for my scoot at the same time(a large helmet will not fit under the seat) after numerous phone calls and e-mails, 6 months later I received it! (cost £150) My dealer was waiting on sole distributors in Bristol to get their act together and they in turn were waiting on Piaggio (Italy) to deliver some! I was told they didnt know what would be in the container from Italy. They just "get what theyre given !" I was considering side panniers also,but have decided to give that a miss! Oh,nearly forgot. They beat me in the end anyway,the screws were missing from my top box assy. kit! GREAT BIKE THOUGH.
I got a B125 after my last bike was stolen. This bike is a revelation...i love it.. Loads of room loads of comfort and its great on juice(but aint all scooters) Has yet ive nothin bad to say on this bike and another good plus point its a very secure bike has well its not easy to steal... I Love It... My last bike was a Habana custom 125cc in black and the reviews for that are spot on its a good looker but not very reliable at all. My speedo cable and front brakes went within 6mts of having the bike and the parts are a nightmare to get hold of. Its the complete opposite with the B125. Its a very strong sturdy bike and being a piaggio it is very very reliable and the parts are cheap and easy to come by.. If your gonna get a new bike or this is your first time id recommend the Piaggio B125 has a verygood bike to get.. Hello again its been 6mths since i got my b125 and still i love the bike. Its still a great and safe ride and ive had no problems with it what so ever. I do a lot of travelling on my bike to and from work and from St Helens where i live and into other towns in the area eg Wigan and Warrington with no problems again what so ever. With it being a large bike the ride is high and u feel really safe. The one downside is the storeage but i don't leave the helmet inside the bike so thats not a problem with me. Also the accesories are very expensive as i would like the side boxes and the windscreen. Id still recomend this bike to anyone who can drive a 125cc...