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The Bandit 650S is a motorcycle, plain and simple. Mine is a 2005 with carbs, bought used with 15,000 kms on it. It's one of several models I'd have bought, but there it was, at the right price. There's nothing special about it but, like most bikes, it's quicker and faster than the rules allow, anyway. The fairing is barely adequate on the highway (I am 5' 10" tall), the front suspension is lousy on anything other than smooth pavement... if you want to do anything other than commute on it, you need to start modifying. Taller windscreen? Available through Givi, and likely a lot of other distributors. Better front shocks? Maybe this winter, if the money is there. Need to go faster? Get a different bike. Want to have a lot of fun on a reliable, inexpensive, no nonsense two- wheeler? Don't mind riding a relatively ugly (welcome to the Suzuki family) machine? I'm going to keep mine forever, it's exactly what I paid for and will probably last 25 years, like my old 4- cylinder Kawi 750.
i have a 98 gsf600 bandit, got it out for spring and it's running like shit. Went through the carb 3 or 4 times now and thats not it, the bike is like brand new to begin with, only 4600 miles. I've tried everything tested the coils, new plugs, carbs, etc. I want to try a new cdi box. Anybody know how to test the cdi box? The manual shows a tool but i cant find it anywhere. It breaks up pretty bad under sudden acceleration and gets all the revs when it comes out of it. you can be going 80 or 100 full throttle fine then back off then hammer into it again and it breaks up. Please email me if you can help. email@example.com
I have been riding my dad's Suzuki GSF600 Bandit on an 02 plate for the previous 6 months after being knocked off my Suzuki TL1000R. I found this bike to be far more than i expected it to be for a naked 600. The gearbox is very smooth indeed and although the power wasn't instant once up to 7000 revs it pulled very well indeed up to a very reasonable top speed for a 600. Maintanence costs are pretty low as patent parts are now availale for most jobs needed as most suzuki's use pretty similar or identical components. The brakes on this machine are far beyond what you would expect and hopefully far more than you'd ever need to use. Petrol consumption is good delivering at least 30-35 miles to a gallon on a hard run probably up towards 45-50 or more on a sensible long ride out. Overall very impressed with this bike, reliable, cheap to run and maintain, goes well, handles spot on and stops well. Good everyday bike for commuting or pleasure.
I own a p reg gsf bandit, i passed my test in may 2007 it is my first bike it is a beautiful looking bike very clean. I find myself looking at my bike more than riding it, the truth is im afraid to ride it i syke myself up to go out on her then i chicken out .when i do pluck up the courage and go out on her im at ease but find i cant go far i loose my bottle very easy.I dont ride fast i might open her up on a quiet empty road but i just seem to panic when i get near other road users.can anybody give me some advise on what to do to cure my demons I love my bike but i feel i might sell her because im scared to ride her and i dont want to do that as i would regret it in time thanks for listening. nick.
Im Back I gave you a revue on the GS500F That I had last Year Well I have now gone for a 650 Bandit for 2006/7. What a bike I needed a two seater so had a good look around and there was not much about that was good for me and the wife so we ended back in the Suzuki shop and the Bandit 650 with the fairing was the ideal choice. The engine well I have had all types of bikes over the years but most of my big bikes have been 3 cylnder two strokes 500 cc and 750 cc Suzukis and Kawasakis so belive it or not this is ny first four cylinder and what a difference this bike is the engine on the Bandit is so smooth with the power and easy to use the only problem I have found is that the engine brakeing is exellent but I have had to learn to keep more throttle on in high speed corners. Handling I have read a lot about the Bandit and to be honest I dont have a problem with it the bike can take some stick and never frightens me in the corners unless I overdo it a bit I have not had any issues with the handling at all. The suspension is pre set in the mid range and for me and the wife I find that is OK but I must say its a bit harsh one up so I will have to experement and maybe adjust it a bit for one up riding The Fairing is a bit deciving it looks OK until you reach 70 MPH then it does get a bit open to the elements I have been advised that there are other screens that you can buy on the market so I would look into this and advise that if you are traveling any distance this must be something to look into. Seat the first thing we had to buy was a anti slip cover for the seat and I would advise this to anyone for some reason the Bandit seat is slippy and very uncomfortable for the passenger. Brakes i have the one with ABS at first I thought yeah right ABS on a bike but I will tell you one thing they work and they work fine so good in fact that I dont think I would buy a bike without them the set up on the Bandit is exellent and if you have a patchy road with wet and dry surface you can relax with these brakes they get some getting use to but apply the front with the rear for best results and gone are the days of the screeching front tyre under heavy brakeing. Tyres the bike is fitted with Bridgestones and they stick like glue. Looks the bike has been around for a while but it still is a good looker Instruments are clear and easy to read the fuel tank level is very handy and the warning lights are easy to see. Mirrors are a little bit closed in and you seem to get more elbow than rear view. Riding position is very good with an adjustable seat for long leggers. Riding I just love it you can throw it around in the bends I have a little run near me that I have used for over 30 Years and the Bandit is just fun to throw around the twisty road I have had a few heart stopping moments but that is just becouse I pushed the thing to far but I found its easy to get out of trouble. Town riding is easy and two up is just fine. Long distance I like a bike for fun and I did do a blast along a duel carriage way for some distance but just wanted to get back to a bendy road again. I got the Black one I think it looks the best colour but that is up to you. If you have just come into biking and want a big bike I would recomend the Bandit its fun and easy to use
we installed a jet kit on a 600. the directions suck, we kept having to look up info on it and how to install. we ran into a problem after we put everything back together. it will not start unless it is primed directly to the gas, and it won't idle it just cuts off whenever i come to a stop. do anyone knows anything about this Please help!!!!!! we checked the wires and reconnected everything but we came up with nothing. we think it might be the carbs offset.
Now I have read most of these reviews on here and I can agree with some things and disagree on others... Now let me say first off... This Bike is a great bike with great handling.. Now in most of these review's y'all said that handling at 130+ Just doesnt cut it. Now I do own a 2002 but it has great handling and very good suspension. The lightin does suck but hey thats an easy fix.. Just change to a halogen and adjust your screw.... With out a Fairing I was able to do about 150+ with minor wind Problems.. But now with my lower Fairings it cutts through the wind like a hot knife through butter.. I recomend that you buy the lower fairings for this bike if you still own one... If you want more power out of the bike just upgrade alot of the parts.. Instead of a breather box get single breathers.. Get Edlebroke Carbs for it and a Racing Exghaust.. Also get a new set of sprokets the increase your top end speed.. Cause the bandit has alot of Torque so you can sacrifice some torque for some speed.... You will enjoy it trust me.. I do... Thank you for reading this if you do... Leave me some replies if you have something diff.. I always open to options... You can get your lower Fairings/spoilers at Eurobikes.com.. Thank you again and take care.. Sincerely Guy from the states... Chad
When I first climbed aboard this beast my heart was pumping ten to the dozen. I had just got my license and had borrowed it for the weekend to decide whether or not to buy it off a co-worker. It was a "P" reg GSF600N. The problem I faced was that the ride back was a good home was a good 50miles during rush hour. Now to my opinion After the taller bike that I have ridden before it was less of a jump to get on this bike. First glance it has the raw muscle bike look with very little in the way of and light panels and no fairing. I'm not sure whether the bike is meant to come with a large cage around the engine but I am glad that it is there with the amount of times it has spent on its side. This is not through poor road handling but because of its imence weight on a small section of pavement it has left hole in solid concrete. I have a feeling this is down to either bad workmanship when laying the ground or the small surface area of the foot stand. Upon climbing on the bike has a very strange feeling about itself. It seems to feel more top heavy and needs very little persuasion to lean too far. When on the move though it seems slightly unstable at extreme low speeds, by this I mean less then 5mph, but does feel very stable at higher speeds. The engine is a four stroke four cylinder which produces a lot of torque at around 8,000 - 10,000 RPM. The positioning of the four carburettors does however make it very difficult to get to the idle adjustment knob in the centre. This bike has more raw power in second gear then is really necessary. I keep finding myself in second gear doing 70mph and even the odd wheelie getting up to that speed. The drawback however is that the lack of fairing produces a lot of wind resistance against your body. This makes it a cling for dear life at anything over 120mph, not that I?ve done that. I would say that its uses for short trips to uni and back m ake it ideal for the area but the comfort make long trips seem effortless. I have found though that the fuel tank does not leave a lot at the reserve. I could do 200Km a tank and the res would get me another 5 maybe 10 at a push. Pillion. Wow that is not something I would like to do to often on this bike. The model I have has a small grab strap between the main rider and pillion an nothing else to hold onto. This bike is probably best for those who like being close to one another. I have heard however that the later models went to bar behind and either side and then to a solid bar behind. In all it is a very versatile bike when it comes to commuting but not quite so happy with the fuel economy. Cosidering this was bourght for £1000 it was well worth the money. saying that though I lost a follower not to long ago and it cost me almost the same again for the repairs. Ouch !! ***Fresh News*** My bike is awaiting a shop to check my bike is still in good enough condition to be ridden. It had a collision with a car side on. The bike took a small amount of damage to the handle bars and the plate covering the cylinders has a piece taken out over the first cylinder. :-( Both car and bike are a right off. What comes next??
Listen folks, I going to tell you the truth, the Bandit600 is the best bike out there for the money and size. As a 37-year-old man I don't need to be able to do 185 mph anywhere that I go. This bike has all of the features that anyone would need. The only difference between this bike and the Bandit1200 is the bhp, which is much more powering overall. At 6' 1" tall and about 260 lbs. this bike works well for me, I have the bike at the top speed of 137mph and was able to handle it with ease. Sure the wind force was strong, but at this speed the same would be true on any bike. If you want a bike that delivers the power when you need it and has the ability to pass cars when needed then this is the bike for you. I will leave you with this final note, just because I am 37 and don't need to do 185mhp, I do like to pop whiles and the bandit600 will do them. All you have to is stay in first gear to about 15mph and grab the clutch and take the rpm's up to about 6000 and release the clutch, the bike will stand straight up and you are free to ride the while as for as you can.
I returned to motorcycling after 10 years and decided I wanted an all rounder without a fancy fairing. I looked up all the prices,performances,toured the dealers and decided that at just over £3600 the GSX Bandit had style pedigree and performance that matched my criterior. Well 1,000miles and a month later, Im still exploring the bikes potential. The 600 Bandit is an all out" Buzzbox" it performs well,handles nice and turns heads. Power from 0 to 60 is superb above this it still pulls like a train.The gearbox is the bikes only weak link,you need to use it a lot about town and when you do it "Clunks" 1st being hard to select at rest. The controls are a dream in use light and balanced and very straight forward. Quality is good in general,lots of chrome and solidly put together. The low profile tyres are a little scary at first as they send every movement directly to your hands,but they are fine after reading the signs they give you. I think all round not a bad package for the money which includes 2 years warranty and 1 years breakdown cover. But much to buzzy for my liking.
I owned a 2001 600S (faired) Bandit until recently - on the whole, the Bandit's a reasonably friendly and easy-to-use retro that'll probably suit a fairly experienced rider who's not really bothered about keeping up with the sportsbike pack. The Bandit is a good looking machine, and performs reasonably well on the open road, its 600cc engine producing around 76 BHP. This equates to a top speed of around 130mph, but even with the fairing you wouldn't really want to do that sort of speed, as the windblast is uncomfortable and the handling deteriorates around 100mph. Cruising at 70+ is very comfortable, though. Insurance is quite reasonable given the perkiness of the engine, but be aware that some of the design elements of the bike (such as the exhaust and fairing mountings) mean that it doesn't survive crashes very well, and can be easily written-off due to frame damage. The four cylinder arrangement is smooth and grunty, and sounds good - it's a lot less raw and vibratory than the twin-cylinder machines in the similar price range. The Bandit was revamped in 2000, slightly softening its angular looks whilst changing the frame design, but the redesign wasn't radical enough to keep up with the new crop of naked bikes - many people argue that the old bike was better. In normal use, it's quite an easy bike to handle once you get going, and would suit a middle-distance journey thanks to an upright riding position, comfortable seat and bungee hooks. My main gripe with the Bandit was the weight - it's 208 kg, which is quite a significant weight, and more than 25kg heavier than its more modern rivals. You'll notice the weight particularly if you miss your footing and find yourself struggling to hold it up, or if you have short legs like me - I could touch down, but always felt that the bike was a little "top heavy". I never really had low speed confidence due to the weight, and the bike was a little "snatchy" when cold, leading to quite a few near-drops. The weight also compromises the handling somewhat - if you make the mistake of trying to out-compete a sportsbike, you could be in for a nasty surprise as the bike wallows and drifts, and more than once I found that the bike was reluctant to steer as quickly as I wanted it to, leading to a couple of hair-raising moments. Further gripes - there's no fuel gauge, and the suspension needs serious work. The weight of the bike is concentrated at the front, but the front forks are under-damped so under heavy braking they will "bottom out" with a "knocking" feeling that can seriously affect handling. I wouldn't be totally confident in the emergency braking ability of the Bandit as a result, although the brakes themselves are excellent. The headlight is pretty useless on dipped beam, as only one of the lights is lit. Many people replace the fork springs with progressive ones and rewire the lights, but it's a shame that this isn't done on the machine as standard. Overall, it's a well-priced package for those who don't want the hunched-over sportsbike experience. It's quite good-looking for the money, and comfortable to ride, even over distance. Although it's been revamped, it still feels a little old-fashioned next to more modern, lighter rivals such as the Yamaha Fazer and Suzuki's own SV650, but has traditionally scored on price. Its price is probably the reason that it continues to sell in the face of newer, better , bikes but essentially you get what you pay for and it's obvious where the money has been skimped. If you can handle the weight, it's a fun package, but it caught me out more than once and I was never entirely confident with this big hunk of metal. However, the Bandit has a huge following, and it has a certain style of its own that appeals to many. You won't have a pro blem finding lots of custom bits for it, and you can turn it into a total tart's handbag if you want to. If you can manage the size and weight of the bike, it might be just what you're looking for, but don't make the mistake of trying to handle it like a sportsbike - the power is there, but not the handling. Personally, I'd have a look at the Fazer and the SV650 before deciding on the Bandit. If Suzuki lightened it, sorted the suspension and handling and added a GSX-R 600 engine, it would be a cracking bike !
This is my first bike. I quite like this bike. I find it comfortable and easy to ride. I think it looks good. It didn't break the bank. So what's the problem? The finish. This bike was obviously manufacture from New Improved "Rust-Kwik" Metals. It's only got 8,500 on the clock and the rust is begining to show (despite weekly baths and plenty of "WD40"). This would be intolerable in a car and I don't see why I should have to put up with it on a bike? I'm told it's a common problem on bikes. There are a few points where the paint has worn off or been shipped off. These seem to be at the headstock, engine mounts and rear wheel mount. As these areas are protected by the fairing or other bits I am surprised at this. I can only assume that it was part of general maintainence that has caused them. Again, this would not be tolerated in a car. Other than that the bike is a good friend. Stable and docile enough not to scare a begiiner (i.e. me) yet with enough punch in it's power band to raise a smile get the adrenaline pumping. It won't bite you on the arse and have you in the nearest hedge and it suits my lanky frame quite well (a new screen might cut the windblast a tad). The brakes seem effective enough (they are slightly better than the Yamaha Diversion 600 I learnt on) and the suspension seems fine to me - although I have been told that it will need replaced around the 10,000 mile mark. Fuel economy is adequate - I hit reserve around 130miles and I do urban riding with lots of stops/starts which doesn't help the economy. Some idiot drove into the bike a few weeks ago dumping it on its side. Scratched fairing, shattered front guard and both front inidcators broken. About £130 inc labour to repair - pretty good. Engine bars save any major damage (it fell on the right side, so there was a danger that the can could have twisted the sub frame and wr itten the bike off). The bike is well fast enough to do idiotic speeds, cheap to run, cheap to insure, cheap to fix. Comfortable (I'm over 6 foot). Just a shame the quality of the metal lets the side down. A good bike to get experience on and very popular for modification. I think I'll be keeping this for quite a few years.
Right then, before I start, I’ll make it clear that this is not my bike, although I do have a bike licence and I haven’t actually ridden it as my legs are too short! It is however my hubby’s bike and I have picked his brains etc. So combine this with the fact that I can actually ride (legally!) and hopefully my op should be pretty accurate! I will however write as though we both ride the bike etc (to make my life easier!) We had a Thundercat before this bike and the main reason for selling that was the sheer power and speed of the bike meant either loss of licence was imminent or even worse, loss of life or limb. Also the economics were all wrong with hubby going to college, a cheaper bike was definitely required. So June last year, we sold the beast and looked for a bike that would be easier on the purse strings, insurance-wise and easier for town work, as college is only a few miles from home. We had to find a balance between the size, as we ride two up quite a lot and the economy as students are notoriously short of the green stuff! (Don’t think much money’s green these days though is it?) We tested a few different bikes from our local Gedges motorcycle shop, and accidentally found the Bandit in the workshop as it had just come in second-hand, having been sold from there from brand new and serviced there. We both fell in love with it there and then, even allowing for the fact that the previous owner had neglected to maintain the tyres and the back one was badly bulging. But we both knew that this would be the bike we bought. We went back a few days later after it had been serviced etc and took it out for a test ride. Sure enough we signed on the dotted line, parted with £2,500 and we were the proud new owners of an R reg, blue Suzuki Bandit GSF600N. (Strangely enough, Suzuki class this blue colour as green?! They must have colour-blind employees!!!) A brand new Bandit will cost around £3500. S o how does this bike perform? It has a decent sized engine although not as fast as the 1200 version but that is pretty obvious and to be expected. It is very handy for town work and is light and nippy enough to weave through traffic comfortably. Saying that however, it is also good on the open road and loves being given the opportunity to do just that, especially if it’s normally used for only town work. I don’t think huge amounts of town work is good for any vehicles, so a ‘good run’ every now and then will do it a world of good. Compared to the Thundercat, a long run is much more pleasurable on the Bandit mainly due to the aching arms syndrome. After an hour riding the Thundercat, or any racing bike I would assume, unless you are very used to it, the riding position can really hurt over a longer distance. The Bandit seems to have a happy medium and long or short journeys can be successfully negotiated without too much trouble. The acceleration is very good and it picks up speed very quickly although not as fast as the Thundercat. Again this is to be expected, as they are both very different kinds of bike. The Bandit is not that great at higher speeds though. At about 100mph you start to feel a little blown around and any higher than 110mph, a fairing would definitely be advised! (And of course these sorts of speeds would be done at a designated circuit!!!) Another point to note on this bike, good or bad depending on personal opinion, is the large reserve tank capacity. On the down side, the Bandit is not so comfortable with heavy breaking, mainly due to the forks. Now this can make your arms ache! The forks have been badly designed, you could say as they ‘bottom out’ when you break fairly hard and it seems like they are knocking. After buying the bike, we noticed this and took it back to the shop thinking there was something wrong with it. Apparently this is a common fault with the Bandits but p roviding you are aware of it, it doesn’t cause too much trouble. The bike is pretty economical, doing roughly 55 miles to the gallon. Obviously this various depending on how much town work you do and how much you thrash it! The cost of insurance was reasonable, costing about £400 for fully comprehensive cover. I don’t know how many other female riders will identify with this, but I have found it difficult to find a larger engine bike, which I can comfortably reach the floor from. The Bandit is no exception, unfortunately; hence I don’t ride this one except as pillion. From a pillion point of view though, I like the grab-rails on the Bandit as they are on the side at the rear, rather than being solely at the rear. Obviously this is down to personal taste but hey, that’s my preference. Luckily, the age of this Bandit meant that, that’s exactly where they are. I did find out a little later though, that on the next model ie the following year on an S plate, they’ve been moved to the rear! But whatever your preference, you should be able to find a Bandit to accommodate this requirement! So on the whole, this bike is a good all rounder, comfortable to ride, economic, fun and more to the point, affordable.
Top fun, top tool, top bike... I've owned a bandit 600 for 3 years now. What a great bike! And I'll tell you why... I bought it from new. In black. Totally naked, no half-fairing. O.K., so it keeps off a bit of wind,so what? Why spoil those fantastic lines? Beats me. It looks the business standing still, never mind when cruising down the high street, or caning it around the lanes..But this is sounding like a biased view(which it is of course), so I'll try and give you the nuts and bolts of owning one,(and working on one) for the last 3 years.. I bought it in the middle of a cold February(is there any other kind?), when prices are low(ish). Straight cash gave me a £200 discount, which was nice..First thing I noticed, was that the susook doesn't like the cold. It can take a while to finally kick over, even with full choke. The choke, situated between the clutch and the clocks can be a bit fiddly. Especially with gloves on. It's also hard to find a middle setting with it. It's either full choke or nowt..I find letting the bike 'idle' at about 3,000 revs, for a few minutes(with a few blips of the fun handle, just to hear that sweet metallic whine) seems to do the trick. Keep the choke at this setting when you first start off for the first mile or too..the bike can stutter a bit when cold with no choke, especially at that first junction, when everything's still trying to warm up(yep, you as well). The riding position tends to push you toward the tank. It's upright but comfy. Bars are nicely placed for reach as well. I advise investing in some tank-pads ASAP, since the riding position can lead to scratches on the tank from zips. And black shows up scratches and dirt like a beacon. Also, because your knees are grabbing the sides of the tank, make sure the flanks are covered as well. Leather jeans seem to be the worst culprit for this. On my bike, the front headlamp was tilted to far toward the ground. I had troub le seeing the far ahead of me the first time I rode at night, even with the main beam on. But the problem was easily cured with a few turns of a spanner on the headlight bolts. The clutch is still light to use, even after 3 years. I've replaced the plates once, after the first year. Piece of cake. Gearchange is precise - typical Susuki - though again, the first couple of changes can be slightly notchy on cold mornings. (It hates getting up - same as me..). The suspension setting on the rear I found to be a little too soft. I'm 12 stone, about the average rider's weight and I found the bike a little wallowy when I first rode it through a fast sweeper. A 'c' spanner did the trick on the shock..I firmed it up with 1 and a half full turns. Before I adjusted the shock, I took a mate on the back, and it did ground out once on a bumpy road. There is a slight hole in the rev range between 3,500 and 4,500. Especially in top gear. But, don't forget, it is a 600 - knock her down a couple and give it a fistfull..as if you need an excuse...Apart from that, throttle response is very good. Handling is pretty good too. When I first had it, I thought it felt a little light on the front, but this is due to the bike's quick steering. You get lots of 'feel' through the bars, even on bumpy roads. Pillion comfort is good,(as the missus will testify), although taller riders like my mate said he felt a little cramped after about an hour in the saddle. It's not the best bike to ride in windy conditions, but it hasn't got a fairing, and it's not exactly aerodynamic to begin with, so what'ya expect. Top speed? Well, I've had 125 on the clock. It felt a bit vague on the front, but other than that it she stayed planted. Wind resistance really does become a pain then.(literally). My neck and shoulders took a pummelling after a few miles at that speed..great. Give it a big twist in 1st and 2nd and the front will come up. J ust like it's big brother, the 12. loverly.. Brakes do the job well enough. I thought they felt spongy when I first had it, but a mate 'sold' me a good tip. Bed the pads in straight away with a couple of hard stops. Sorted. The pads did wear quite quickly during the first year, but then I did put 16,000 on the clock in those 12 months. I replaced them twice. I got a whole year on the lastest ones. I always buy Susuki's own O.E. pads, though it might be worth experimenting with other makes. The second year I used the bike as a work-horse. I did 8 months of courier work on it, all over the country, distance and town work. Never had a problem. Apart from the obvious - tyres, servicing, bulbs etc., the susook came through it all unscathed and mechanically sound. The cam chain needed ajusting after 4 months, but that was all in the way of 'major' work. I used Avon roadrunners front and back, getting 3,500 miles out of the back. Take it easy and expect to get 50% more. Even in central London in June, the bike never missed a beat. So there you have it. The bandit's still with me after 3 years. The only other bike I've owned that's come close reliability-wise is a CX500. But for the overall package, I haven't owned better. Like I said..top fun, top bike. ps..I rode my mate's new 1200 the other day....oh yes!!...bigger is definitely better!...More fun?..I'll let you know..
...though I've no doubt that the bandit can also be completely reckless if the rider wants it to be. It's got all I want in a bike. As a relatively late starter, the last thing I wanted was a bike I'd have to lie flat on the tank to ride. The 600 Bandit has a comfortable upright-ish riding position, all the speed I need (who needs a bike that can do 150mph+) and, with a flick of the wrist, enough g force to overtake in safety. It's a reliable machine, though be careful not to switch the parking light on and drain the battery!!! If you want to experience the thrill of motorcycling but don't fancy the thought of having to put your knee down on a corner (though no doubt someone will say that it is possible) then this is the bike for you!!! UPDATE Alas! The Bandit has gone. No, I didn't bend it! Someone (who shall remain nameless) thought it would be a good idea if we had 2 cars. 2 cars AND a Bandit would have been the ideal answer, but the readies wouldn't stretch to that. One day, whenever that may be, I WILL get another bike and I will have no hesitation at looking for another Bandit.