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Josh Hartnett, Morgan Freeman, Bruce Willis and more! Where can you find a better line up of actors and actresses in one film? This is action packed film. Its mind boggling. Its so amazing how it comes all together at the end. This film is so clever. My eyes were stuck on this film all the way through. Also this, in HD, looks so awesome. I recommend this film to practically any body. Ive shown this film to a variaty of people and not one person didnt like it. No matter what type of films your into, this is a must see. All the actors and actresses play amazing parts and there characters are so believable. This is all round an amazing film. Thats all I can basically say! Watch it! Buy it! Watch it again and again! I couldnt get bored of this film! Go for it and you'll love it.
Lucky Number Slevin is a cracking little action film that is a slightly confusing, quite complex and fairly difficult to follow during a single viewing because there are so many twists and turns in the plot. After a second and third watch (which I think is essential), you will really start to appreciate just how good this film is.
Josh Hartnett plays Slevin who is on his way to visit his friend Nick Fisher. Things don't quite go to plan and after being mugged on the way Slevin arrives to find Nick isn't home, but his door is open and the place is a mess. Slevin goes in and waits for Nick. It turns out that Fisher is wanted by not one, but two, rival gangsters; The Rabbi (Ben Kingsley) and The Boss (Morgan Freeman). He owes both of them a lot of money. Heavies from both The Boss and The Rabbi are sent round to Fisher's place to apprehend him. Unfortunately for Slevin they both mistake him for Fisher and it's him who is taken in and roughed up.
The only person not mistaking Slevin for Fisher is Nick's neighbour Lindsey (Lucy Liu). She helps Slevin try to unravel the mystery and the two become romantically involved.
There are superb performances from the all the main actors. Morgan Freeman and Ben Kingsley are great as the squabbling gang leaders. Bruce Willis plays his role as a formidable assassin as only Bruce Willis could; typically calm and collected. Josh Hartnett and Lucy Liu also give creditable performances.
The film is gripping, intense and beautifully crafted. Some things you see initially don't make sense, but eventually everything is revealed. Flashbacks are used to reveal bits of the story you don't see. Some you will understand, others you won't get until the end (or even not until you watch the film again). In the end everything falls into place marvellously and all your questions will be answered.
It's a wonderfully crafted film. It's gripping and keeps you immersed. Ok, so you might not fully understand it after a single showing. But watch it again and you will come to appreciate it more. It is hugely enjoyable and certainly keeps you thinking and guessing all the time. This is not a film to watch while you are tired or half-cut. You need to pay full attention all of the time.
An excellent story, script and brilliant directing make this a film that shouldn't be missed. It contains good humour, strong violence, a bit of romance and unexpected twists; all culminating in an enjoyable and compelling watch. I recommend it highly.
This is a cracking film and one which will appeal to quite a wide audience.
Any film with this amount of well known actors is almost bound to be a hit and this one doesn't fail to hit the mark. Josh Hartnett plays 'Slevin' and is great as the central character, he really couldn't have played it better. Bruce Willis and Lucy Liu also play fantastic roles.
It is basically about two 'crime bosses', played by Morgan Freeman and Ben Kingsley who are enemies who are each trying to use Slevin against the other one, even though he has no idea who each one of them is, why they think he owes them something and how he is going to get out of the situation!
A fantastic tale of mistaken identity it is difficult to say too much about it without giving the game away but suffice to say this is a very funny, cool and slick action movie with a fantastic beginning and a clever twist at the end.
Lucky Number Slevin is a thriller/crime film that until recently had missed my radar, I saw that it was highly rated though and have the week off work, so thought I'd give it a spin.
I was pleasantly surprised to find one of the most exciting and complex gangster films in recent times, the film is full of acting talent as Bruce Willis, Morgan Freeman (who seems to look more like Nelson Mandela every day), Sir Ben Kingsley and the sleek and glamorous Lucy Liu, undoubtedly the man who steals the show though is Josh Hartnett, although he has appeared in various action films over the years (Black Hawk Down, Black Dahlia, Pearl Harbour), it wasn't a face I instantly recognised.
The story has a complex plot but it's the kind of plot that comes to you and you don't really need to think too hard about it because the scenes towards the end make everything clear, it's a clever film and I have to say I was so caught up in the character of Slevin that I hadn't seen a lot of it coming.
The script is fairly amusing at times and the characters are entertaining, including the ones that just play a small part like the body guards/general dog's bodies of The Rabbi and The Boss, the on-screen chemistry between Slevin and the quirky neighbour of the flat he finds himself in (played by Lucy Liu) is strong and this only complicates matters.
This film has a lot going on, the storyline is strong from beginning to end, at times it's witty and there are several surprising moments, I recommend giving it a go - you won't be disappointed.
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Lucky Number Slevin was releases in 2006 and is directed by Paul McGuigan. It has a runtime of approximately 110 minutes and is available on Amazon.co.uk for under £5.
~~~ Synopsis ~~~
When Slevin moves into his friends flat, he gets mistaken for someone else. Unfortunately for him the person he is mistaken for is in some trouble with two of the city's most powerful crime bosses: The Rabbi and The Boss.
Slevin is under severe pressure to sort the whole thing out and has to come up with a way of clearing his name.
~~~ My Opinion ~~~
This is one of my favourite movies of all time, for many reasons. The main one probably being the twisty storyline.
Lucky Number Slevin is quite a clever film, but doesn't try to be too clever. It has plenty of twists and turns, but it isn't too complicated that you can't follow the movie without intense thinking, but isn't so obvious that you know exactly what's going to happen.
Another main reason I like the movie is because of the character Slevin, played by Josh Hartnett. Even though he is in trouble with two crime bosses he doesn't panic. The scene with him and two of the "henchmen" in the car, where Slevin is purposely giving stupid answers is one of my favourites.
Morgan Freeman is also in the movie as The Boss. Freeman is rarely in a movie, which disappoints and he's at his usual best in this.
I'd definitely recommend this movie to everyone. Even though I know what happens I still enjoy watching it when it's on TV. The DVD represents value for money and is one I'll be buying for my DVD collection in the near future.
Josh Hartnett ... Slevin
Bruce Willis ... Mr. Goodkat
Lucy Liu ... Lindsey
Morgan Freeman ... The Boss
Ben Kingsley ... The Rabbi (as Sir Ben Kingsley)
Michael Rubenfeld ... Yitzchok
Peter Outerbridge ... Dumbrowski
Stanley Tucci ... Brikowski
note: also appears in part on Flixster and The Student Room
Lucky Number Slevin might be a terrible title for a film, but a terrible film this is not; ignore the daft title and you get a smart and slick caper that's well-acted, stylish, and quite nifty thanks to some sublime twists. Of all of the films that earn the title "post-Tarantino", such as Smokin' Aces, this is one of the better attempts, in that it's not as pompous or pretentious.
The film's protagonist is Slevin Kelevra (Josh Hartnett), a rather hapless young man who has been caught in a case of mistaken identity, where his life is in grave danger, and so he must try and rectify the mistake before he winds up dead. He is mistaken for a friend of his, and as a result has to try and mediate a feud between gang bosses The Rabbi, (Sir Ben Kingsley), and The Boss, (Morgan Freeman) with the help of his neighbour Lindsey, (Lucy Liu). Also, he has to watch out for a slippery assassin named Mr. Goodkat, (Bruce Willis), who seems to be gunning for him.
As a postmodern film noir romp (better termed perhaps as "neo-noir", this is an incredibly entertaining film that's got slick action and a smart plot to boot. Hartnett usually does well in these kind of roles and this is no different, while Willis is also a standout in a rare role as the bad guy. Liu is good fun as the quirky love interest, and overall this is a great piece of entertainment that doesn't take itself too seriously.
Don't be quick to dismiss this film on its pretty awful title - the film is a smart, slick, post-Tarantino twist-fest that never fails to surprise and entertain.
This film has an excellent cast in it and overall it is an excellent thriller that at times had me on the edge of my seat which is either the sign of a great film or my bum is getting bigger and I need to lose weight.
It is quite a violent film in places and also has some rather disturbing scenes in it. Josh Hartnett stars as Slevin Kelevra who is visiting New York to see an old friend however his friend has disappeared as he owes a local crime boss played by the excellent Morgan Freeman a large amount of money due to a gambling debt. When Slevin is kidnapped from his friends apartment due to a case of mistaken identity he finds himself having to pay off the debt by doing work for the crime boss and this involves carrying out a murder of a rival gang leader known as The Rabbi played by the outstanding Ben Kingsley. Now already that is a pretty impressive cast but you also have appearences from Bruce Willis ad Lucy Lui in this film so it is a truly all star cast.
Kingsley is excellent in his role and alongside him Morgan turns in an excellent performance while Hartnett acquits himself well.
The main strength of the film is in the excellent plot that is well constructed and takes the occassional twist of direction. Tthe dialogue is excellent and has a slightly Tarantino feel to the overall film. Well worth seeing and an excellent thriller.
Lucky Number Slevin is a crime thriller that was released in 2006. It is rated 18 due to strong language, violence and sexuality and the film is 109 minutes long. Lucky Number Slevin has gone on to make over $58 million worldwide.
Mr Goodkat is sat in the waiting area of a bus terminal and begins to tell a young man named Nick Fisher the tale of another guy called Max. Max was a loving, family man who wanted better for his wife and son and one day, he finally thinks he has caught a break. He hears of a fixed horse race and goes to some loan sharks who agree to put the bet on for him. The loan sharks aren't the kind of people who you would want to owe any amount of money too and they make it clear how dangerous borrowing this amount of money is. As you can guess, the horse loses and Max gets brutally beaten and killed but at the same time, the loan sharks order the deaths of his wife and son.
Next, we meet Slevin Kelevra in New York. Slevin is having a pretty rough day so far as he found his girlfriend cheating on him and his apartment has been condemned so on he decides to go and stay at his friend Nick's place, but on the way there, he gets mugged. When he gets to the apartment, Nick isn't there so he decides to wait but the only person he see's is Lindsey, who lives across the hall. The two get acquainted and Lindsey decides to try and figure out why Nick has disappeared but that day, two gangsters turn up and mistake Slevin for Nick and that is where the story really begins.
Josh Hartnett -- Slevin Kelevra
Morgan Freeman -- The Boss
Sir Ben Kingsley -- The Rabbi
Lucy Liu -- Lindsey
Bruce Willis -- Mr.Goodkat/Smith
Stanley Tucci -- Detective Brikowski
This was one of those films that I'd only heard the name of and who the lead male was but didn't actually know anything about it so when I watched it on TV a while ago, I had no idea what I was about to watch.
To begin with, you really need to pay 100% attention while watching this film. There are numerous flash backs and loads of twists and turns that will totally confuse you. What I loved about this film was the fact that I couldn't predict the ending at all. If you try and work it out while watching then you will probably miss some of the important parts.
Lucky Number Slevin cuts right to the chase when it comes to the action and in the first 20 minutes, we are subjected to some pretty brutal and graphic scenes of violence. That isn't a bad thing though unless you have a weak stomach. If you have, be prepared to have to look away quite a few times.
Josh Hartnett really shines in his role as Slevin and this was by far the best I have ever seen him. For quite a lot of the film, Slevin acts quite clueless and a bit scared at times but towards the end, his character really comes into his own and we start to see what he's really like.
The rest of the cast, including Lucy Liu, Bruce Willis and Morgan Freeman, are all amazing though one doesn't outshine the others. Each of the three just mentioned all play roles that they don't normally, which made their performances stand out for me.
If you haven't seen Lucky Number Slevin already then I highly recommend that you do, even if this genre isn't normally your kind of thing.
This film boasts an excellent cast who turn in some top quality performances and I was lucky enough to watch it again the other night when it was shown on TV.
Josh Hartnett plays the character Slevin Kelevra who is in New York to visit an old friend however his friend has disappeared as he owes a local crime boss (Morgan Freeman) a large amount of money over a gambling debt. When Slevi is grabbed from his friend apartment initially due to mistaken identity he finds himself having to pay off the debt by doing work for the crime boss and this involves carrying out a murder of a rival gang leader known as The Rabbi played by the outstanding Ben Kingsley. The rest of the cast is just as impressive and includes Bruce Willis and Lucy Liu
This is an excellent film with an intricate well woven plot and some superb dialogue. The performances are top notch especially from Hartnett and Kingsley however to be honest all perform well and no one lets the film down.
There is quite a lot of violence in the film however personally I felt that it was dealt with appropriately and it never felt excessive at any point in time. The action is relentless and it is a super film to watch and enjoy if you like action thrillers with some great plot twists.
- Plot - MOVIE SPOILERS
I forgot just how much I enjoyed this film, it gets better every time I watch it.. A film about revenge, planned down to the very last detail. Revenge left so long that the people involved won't know what hit them.
The film starts off with Bruce Willis's character telling Nick Fisher (Sam Jaeger) about a Kansas City Shuffle. He then talks about a story, a guy called Max who has had enough of his life. Tired of his family living the hard life, living pay cheque to pay cheque and never being given a break. He loves them dearly and wants to give them the life they deserve. He then hears about a fixed horse race and decides to go to a loan shark that will lay the bet off for him. He gets told that setting this bet is serious business, dangerous, and the people he will owe money to are the sort of people that you don't want to owe the smallest amount of money.
As you would expect his horse loses, prior to the race the two men setting up the fix hear that word has gotten out about the race and want to make an example of what happens when people get involved in their business. This results in Max getting murdered, and a hit being ordered on his wife and child. A man is then brought in to do a job no one else would do.
And this is where the story ends, with a Kansas City Shuffle.
I'll stop with the plot here because if you have seen the movie already you don't want me to go on about it, and if you haven't seen it, I don't want to ruin it for you. You can read about the plot over at www.imdb.com
- My thoughts -
If you haven't seen it already you are in for a real treat. The film like the story is very well thought of and developed. The story is complex, think Lock Stock And Two Smoking Barrells by Guy Ritchie. Paul McGuigan did well to keep the film consistant and join all of the parts of the story well together. The script and dialogue is very clever. Josh Hartnett as Slevin Kelevra really shines and shows he is talented with his lines. He also has a great onscreen chemistry with Lucy Liu's character Lindsey.
The violence is graphic, it doesn't hold back, perfectly suited for the tone of the film and the director did well to keep it consistent throughout. I can't remember how many people got killed but it was quite a lot. It was nice to see imagination being used too. Don't mistake this for unneeded violence though, even though It is intense/graphic it isn't in your face and doesn't put you off from concentrating on the film.
Morgan Freeman and Ben Kingsley are the other two big names in the film and they both play their characters with authority. If you are a fan of these two you will enjoy this film because they get a decent amount of screen time. I would have liked to see Bruce Willis more involved but for his role he did get enough screen time. Josh Harnett is the star though and leads effortlessly.
I highly recommend Lucky Number Slevin. Get prepared to be drawn in as the story unfolds. Sit back and enjoy.
Thanks for reading.
Josh Hartnett is Slevin, and Slevin is having a really really bad day! And now he is being mistaken for someone he is not - and thrown slap bang in the middle of a war between the city's two most infamous crime bosses -
The Rabbi (Ben Kingsley) and The Boss (Morgan Freeman).
Under 24/7 surveillance by the local Police authorities and the worlds most famous assassin Goodkat (Bruce Willis). Still things in this review don't look good in his favour either let alone the film!
But are things looking up? His choices are simply this - Pay alot of money to some people he owes nothing to - Or come up with his own ingenious plan to get to them before they finally catch up with him!
A clever and slick crime thriller which will provide you with some laughs and most definitely keep you guessing - I wouldn't put it to the top of your viewing lists, but have it there for that rainy day! If you day is bad - Slevin's could well be worse!
Lucky Number Slevin (2006) is a crime / ganster kind of of film. Directed by Paul McGuigan (Scottish Director of Acid House and Ganster No.1 fame) this film has to be his weakest to date in my opinion.
Not even big name actors like Josh Harnett, Bruce Willis, Morgan Freeman and Lucy Lui can save this film. My main problem with it is the overly complex and at times whimsical plot. Is it all bad? Well no, some of the dialogue seems intelligent and at times it is homourous. As a throw away kind of action film I suppose this does the job - to be honest, if you loved Wanted or Gone in 60's Seconds you will love this but be far too confused with the plot to know exactly what the film is about. (As I've mentionned them at this point can I just say that Wanted and Gone in 60 Seconds probably rank in my worst film ever made list).
So for the plot then...strap yourselves in. Like any ganster / thriller / crime movie for this period you'd be expecting a flashback and straight in to the film and your off. From this flashback all you need to know is that Slevin (Hartnett) and Mr Goodkat (Willis) have had dealings in the past with Goodkat killing Slevins dad.
Flashback over and on to the film. Slevin has just lost his job, found out his wife has left him and had problems with his apartment. He finds himself in the apartment of his 'friend' Nick Fisher. A knock on the door and its Lindsey (Lucy Liu) wrapped in a towel. "you're not Nick Fisher?" "correct". The phone then rings and hangs up and this gives Lindsay reason to be concerned for Nick's wellbeing??? Lindsay exits to get dressed, there is another knock on the door and Slevin is taken by two gansters to meet the Boss (Morgan Freeman) believing him to be Nick Fisher (who owes the boss a load of money).
Obviously not being Nick Slevin doesn't want to pay Nicks debt as he isn't Nick but instead rather than pay a debt that isn't his he agrees to kill the son of the boss' nemesis (called Yitzchok the fairy - a homosexual Jew - I kid you not).
There is a lot of dull unnecessary dialogue and then Nick finally agrees to do the task and returns to the Boss to ask for more time. The Boss thinks three days Slevin wants a week so they play a game of chess to decide which it will be.
At this point without mentioning the part of Mr Goodkat I think its best I leave the plot for a number of reasons...1.) I can feel my blood pressure rising 2.) if I'm totally honest I don't actually think I understood the full script 100% 3.) if you've read this far about such a poor plot you have already done so well....
So the plus points about this film. It is watchable and with company can be fun both working like detectives piecing together clues to best guess exactly whats going on. Josh Hartnett does ok too, to be fair (not a big fan) not amazing, but he does ok.
Erm...Should you see this film. Probably not but don't take my word for it. I didn't and still don't get the Matrix which according to some of my friends is one of the greatest films ever. You may well find something is this film I missed. If you do please leave me a comment!!!
Slevin is having a bad day - on returning to his flat to find it condemned from a bug infestation, he heads round to his girlfriend's house to find her having sex with another man. He calls up his friend Nick and heads round to his flat, only to be mugged on the way. On turning up at Nick's flat, Nick is mysteriously absent, the only person to be found is Lindsey, Nick's nosy and irritatingly perky neighbour, who clearly likes the look of the semi-naked Slevin and embarks upon solving the mystery of Nick's disappearance. Things only get worse when two gansters turn up and mistake him for Nick, taking him to The Boss where he is faced with the task of killing the Boss's arch rival The Rabbi's son in order to wipe Nick's debt. Slevin is rapidly drawn into a world of duelling gangs, inadvertantly playing for both sides.
So far, so muddled. Add in Bruce Willis as a mysterious figure who we're not sure where he fits in, and a story of a fixed horse race, a large debt, and a brutal murder and we have all the elements to create a confused plot, that tries to tease the viewer, Pulp Fiction style, as they try to tie up the various plot threads.
A star cast sets this film up well - Morgan Freeman, Bruce Willis, Ben Kingsley, Stanley Tucci and Lucy Lui support Josh Hartnett, whose main acting skill seems to be to get naked in every film he's in. The actors all give good performances - Lucy Lui is more convincing than I've seen her in most films and even Josh Hartnett manages to give a passable performance, if a little wooden at times.
But despite the stellar cast, I did not enjoy this film at all. The film's plot was so convoluted and full of things that seemed so unrelated to the main plot that there was only one possible way they could fit, meaning that I had worked out the "twist" way before it was revealed. The biggest problem with this film for me was the dialogue, which was awkward and stilted and felt like it was written by a 15 year old. Paul McGuigan's direction is very cocky and arrogant and style over substance, very much in the Guy Ritchie ganster style, leaving you with the impression that the film thinks it's much better and cleverer than it is - the definition of a polished turd. He uses quite quirky camera angles and seems to have a thing for nasty patterned wallpaper, which does give the film a kooky look, but doesn't do enough to distract from the triteness of the script.
The film also has trouble really understanding what it is - rolling along quite merrily in the ganster crime/thriller vein, with violent and brutal murders, it seems to suddenly veer halfway through into a romance, a direction that just seems unnecessary and just thrown in to please the Josh Hartnett teen fans.
After being recommended this film by numerous friends and from reading all the other reviews on dooyoo, I found it ultimately to be a huge disappointment.
In 2006, director Paul McGuigan landed the curious task of directing a strange tale, full of twists and turns, quick speaking, and high level action. The result came out and was a success, both critically and commercially, and further enhanced the strength of reputation for its stars.
Slewvin Kelevra is having an extremely bad day, and things only go from bad to worse. He finds his girlfriend cheating on him, gets mugged and then is mistaken for someone else and finds himself pleading for his life. Of course, it's all been a mistake, and the curious hitman Goodkat and the mob bosses known as The Boss and The Rabbi surely couldn't have anything to do with him. Naturally, it's a mistake.
Or so you would think. As the plot thickens and the story confuses even the most concentrating of viewers, it seems that nothing is a coincidence and that there is a distinct taste of revenge in the air. A stellar castr combines with an excellent script and direction to give us one of the best twisting thrillers from 2006.
Josh Hartnett is excellently clueless as Slevin, with Bruce Willis, Morgan Freeman and Ben Kingsley menacing as Goodkat, The Boss and The Rabbi respectively. Also contributing to the skill is a sultry Lucy Liu, and a good turn from Stanley Tucci as the detective with a nose strong enough to know that something is going on and he's determined to get to the bottom of what and how!
The plot twists and turns, and it's one of those rare films that is probably possible to work out if you have a mind that constantly and extensively goes out at a tangent on a regualar basis. Otherwise, it's probably best to just relax and enjoy some quality acting and on screen tension as the characters develop along with the plot.
McGuigan appears to be in complete control of the proceedings, and none of the big names in the film seem to get above their stations. There is an element of comedy throughout which adds that special touch to a film which would otherwise be a little too dark, although it is more of a black comedy, in fitting and keeping with the film itself.
Overall, I would recommend this comedy of errors film. The DVD is available from amazon.co.uk for £3.98, and is worth it. It would make a good present. The DVD I have has no extras.
Josh Hartnett is Slevin; who is seemingly mistaken for an unruly character. As a result, he is drawn slap into the middle of an on-running battle between two ruthless crime lords - Ben Kingsley and Morgan Freeman.
Kingsley is The Rabbi, Freeman is The Boss. Bruce Willis also joins the cast as who we're not entirely sure.
The fragmented film description is perfect for the film, because that's what the film appears to be for at least the first hour, if not more. It then slowly dawns (to most) what is actually at foot.
This is essentially a crime/thriller, with some amazingly well done twists in the tale. Its entertainment value is second to none and after expecting very little from this film, I was more than pleasantly surprised to find it a clever and enticing piece of film. Fantastic cast, which of course speaks for itself; but a great script, also runs through and the plot is great. You must watch the start of the film carefully for its this that will provide a good understanding of the end, and of the motivations of the films main character.
It's also sharp and at times witty, great to follow - but fast paced, so you're not left hanging around with time to think too much or given too much opportunity to figure out what happened in the last sequence. My favourite film of 2006 and one of the best edited films I have ever watched.
How boring it is to label a movie Tarantino-esque anymore. The thing is, when it comes to an offering like Lucky Number Slevin, the shoe fits, and the result is anything but boring. Gruesome killings, arid wit, self-reflexive pop culture references, an A-list cast, and style-heavy production values abound, which gives the proceedings an epoxy bond that seals the Q.T. homage factor. Josh Hartnett--who spends a lot of buffed-up time with his shirt off--is Slevin Kelevra, a hapless fellow visiting his New York friend Nick. But Nick has disappeared, which sets off a mistaken-identity thrill ride when two goons grab Slevin (he's in Nick's apartment so he must be Nick) and take him to their crime lord boss, the Boss (Morgan Freeman). The Boss doesn't care about Slevin's wrong-man protests; he just wants the $96,000 Nick owes him. In one of many offers he can't refuse, Slevin has to agree to murder the son of the Boss's felonious arch rival, the Rabbi (Ben Kingsley) or take the bullet himself. But Slevin turns out to be no ordinary patsy. Thrown into the ingeniously designed production, clever plot twists, and academic nods to Bond, Hitchcock, and obscure old cartoons are Lucy Liu as a sexy coroner, Stanley Tucci as an obsessed cop, and Bruce Willis as a wily hit man with his finger in many pots. With so much visual and narrative trickery, there's almost too much to absorb in one viewing of this convoluted jigsaw puzzle of revenge and entertaining mayhem. Lucky Number Slevin isn't quite up to par with similarly brainy thrillers like Memento and The Usual Suspects, but the prospect of seeing it again in order to get your bearings is just as appealing.--Ted Fry