I have always enjoyed playing football games, but have had to endure the constant frustration of watching playerswithout the ball run the wrong direction and generally get in the way rather than aid your teams advances. However, PES 2008 on the Wii combats these issues by introducing an innovative control system which allows you to organise your players 'off the ball' interactions in a surprisingly simple way. This is done through clicking and dragging players to take up a new position, or sending a through ball to a player who will automatically run towards it. Not everything with this works perfectly however. When the ball breaks lose I found it very hard to get a player to come and pick it up, usually resulting in my player running round and round in circles until the opposition gets it. As well as this, the point and click system used for defending takes a lot of getting use to, and even for experienced players can still cause problems. The game is also short on modes compared to other games in this genre, although championship road will take a lot of time to completean is fun, and when playing multiplayer the screen can feel very cluttered with the pointer icons and coloured lines. Overall PES 2008 is an enjoyable game which can at times make you feel like a footballing genius with the ball, but like a sunday league team without it.
Pro Evo is a football franchise which has been around for quite a few years now and is known for its great game play. I have earned some different versions for the play station but when I heard about the wii version I had to try it out myself.
The reason for this is it's new controls of the game play which is based around pointing the Wii Remote at the screen and moving players by dragging them with the on-screen cursor; passing, running and tackling is done by pointing in to the desired space or player and pressing the A button.
This new system offers a more tactical approach to the game (if you're so inclined), as there is almost complete freedom in moving any player on the screen, and much more tactics and can be used e.g. a flick of the wii mote instructs your back four to step up to catch the opposition offside as well as lots of other tactics .
It's a great design and changes the Pro Evo completely, from a game about dribbling to one about movement and imagination. The creators have also made the camera view wider so you can see more players which helps but looks a bit rubbish on a small television.
On the negative side this system is not as much fun to run and dribble with the ball on, as the game is quite slow paced compared to other Pro Evo's and defending is very hard and quite frustrating as you end up pointing at all of the oppositions players and try to close each player down individually. Attacking is great fun and getting players to make nice runs so you can play them through is very enjoyable. The graphics are ok for a wii game, nothing special but not embarrassing and the game has lots of modes, leagues and teams to play around with. But the online mode is very poor.
An ok game for football fans who fancy playing a football game in a different way but be warned this isn't like any Pro Evo game you've played before.
Possibly the wackiest control system for any game on the Wii, it looks like it will take you a while to understand and master the control system. Well, you're wrong.
When you start the game up, you get a few basic tutorials of how to do it, and it is all fairly simple. Hold A and point the Wii remote to where you want to run, simple. To pass, point to the player or space you want to pass to and press B. To shoot, you swing the nunchuk, which at times can be quite irresponsive.
Then, you move on to the harder skills, for example one-two's and set-pieces. These can be extremely unresponsive and happen when you don't want it too. One-two sounds nice easy, wrong. You have to hold A and B, and even then you are bound to give it away to the opposition. Why? The ball travels to the right but the players who passed it refuses to get it. Free kicks are a swing of the nunchuk, which never go past the wall and if they do they will go miles wide.
Then we get onto the defending. It is abysmal. You have to do 3 different things at once at even then only 1 out of 5 tackles are successful. You have to point to the player who has the ball, press A, wait for your slowpoke to reach him and then get beat. And that's for normal "stick-your-leg-out" challenge. For a sliding one, you have to do all of that PLUS holding down Z and swinging the nunchuk, and guess what? The nunchuk, most of the time, won't respond.
When you are a Wii owner like me, you do not expect anything major from the graphics department of games. Well, Pro Evo gives a nice shock, when you consider how lazy Konami have being with the other versions. They are quite good, nearly as good as the next-gens' even, but that's player face-wise. The pitch and everything else is inherited from the PS2 version which is, it is safe to say, rather ugly. The pitch is minor and so is everything else that is bad, but it adds up and seems gets on your nerves a fair bit. But, for a Wii game, the graphics are quite good. Not great, just plain old good.
This is probably the best bit of the game in my opinion. The whole game has a good lifespan, but one thing in particular which will undoubtedly keep you hooked for hours on end is "Champions Road".
The Wii wouldn't have being able to cope with the Master League, and to be fair, nor can I. But the Champions Road offers a new perspective to the game. You start off with Minanda & co. (ah, good ol' Minanda) who admittedly are pretty rubbish, but you build your team from there. You play a team, and if you win, you get to choose one of their players, but it's not that straight forward. The player acquisition is almost like cards, each card represents a player on their team, and each card is given a description, for example, "his goals will be important", will undoubtedly get you a striker, but it goes a little odd from there. "Play him on the wings", well that's easy; winger. No, it is a full-back. "Defending is his forte"; ooh, a centre back, no goalkeeper. It does become a bit tedious when looking for a centre-back but for the seventh time you end up with a goalie. Also, after a while you end up with too many players and find yourself having to get rid of players.
All in all, a very good idea and makes the Master league eats it dust.
Although in all honestly I am a FIFA person since I had bought the Wii and I loved football games I decided to buy this due to the special utilization of the Wii remote. To be honest I didn't really understand the game although I knew that Master League was the equivalent of having a career in FIFA but to my dismay it wasn't included in the Wii edition which itself is enough to put a person of this game. There was an alternative which allowed to play games and every game you won you got to choose cards and if you were lucky enough you may get a good player which you require from the other team. Any players you deem not suitable for your own team you get to discard. The actual game play is incredibly awkward at the start but when you progress you will get used to it and if you are still stuck there are tutorials to help you master the system. Some parts have to be watched from the tutorial to gain advanced skills which help during a game and can help gain PES points which can be used to buy special balls, stadiums and alternative kits for teams. Overall it would be a decent game if it had the inclusion of Masters League nonetheless a very decent attempt by Konami for producing a football game for the Wii.
Most people will prefer one or the other: Pro Evo or FIFA..for me, I'd always preferred FIFA, but having a wii was a whole new ball game. So I thought I'd give pro evo a go. I'd seen the adverts, and quite honestly, they'd put me off a little. It looked over-complex and confusing to use the controls to any real effect. I'm the kind of gamer not to read the manual, so I came straight home, put the disk in, connected the nunchuck and dove staright into it! I wondered if that was a bad decision seeing as the game looked so complicated, but alas, within 1 hour I'd learned all I needed and my barcelona were fighting it out with real madrid to a decent standard. 5 hours later I was still playing; addicted, having fun, and most importantly, WINNING! This game requires decent co-ordination, and the 'point-and-pass' mechanism takes a little getting used to, but this game is definitely worth buying for football lovers.
hats off to konami for this masterpiece. they went there and defied the norm, of a football game. no-one would have dared try this yet konami have exploited the wii's every advantage to create a revolutionary, brilliant control system which will be a trend setter for football games to come on this console. it takes every advantage of the wii pointer system in which you can point EXACTLY where you want your players to run and where you want the ball to be passed. the controls are well thought out and difficult to truely master, this is a good thing because it will keep you going for hours of playtime, its the kind of game you can become sensational at, buy only if you put in the man hours. a new champions road mode was introduced which was appealing to many, it involved playing in mini leagues, and after each game stealing one player from your opposition, until you have a team of world beaters. this game is a great one, well done to the konami team, now you just need to persuade yourselves to get this!
I first saw this on the TV advert like most people. It was intriguing to find out how well this game really played first hand as we all know Michael Owen is a bit clumsy. I encountered Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 one weekend in the Tesco sale. It must have been about £6-7, so I just had to buy it. You would be foolish not to, right?
To begin with, there is quite a long tutorial that you need to complete before you can pick up the ropes and master the controls well enough to compete against the best teams in the world. You will learn how to run, dribble, pass, tackle, header, intercept, shoot, save and score. All of this is done by pointing, clicking and swinging the wii-mote and nunchuk. The introduction to this control system is what makes Pro Evolution Soccer 2008 on the Wii shine!
When you have finished the tutorial you can get straight into some practise matches and really start to warm to the game as you begin to master the controls. It is here when you will pick up your own tactics and develop your playing style that will be carried over to cup winning glory.
This game is best played with a bunch of friends where you can show off your skills and to show up your opponents with slick pass-and-moves, feints, one-twos, offside traps, overlaps while breaking away to create space to go one-on-one.
If you're a football fan, this game has your name written all over it!
This game has to be the best football game I have ever played but has flaws, after hearing about this game on wii I was curious to know how it was going to be but after playing it I would have to say it's the best football game I have ever played. The ability to control more than one player at this time makes it more realistic than any other football game. Although the game play of this game is the best I have ever witnessed I would say that it need a bit more improving. The game play is excellent but this game doesn't have the master league mode which is usually featured in pro evo games, instead it has the champions road which is small league u play in and you are able to take a couple players from after u have beaten them. This game also has an only option, which is good.
Konami released the Wii version of PES around the middle of last year, but even after all this time I am still playing it.
The Wii version gives the user a new take on the series, adding a unique control system specifically for the Wii Remote and Nunchuk. The game starts with a drawn-out tutorial which labours the point on a few aspects of the controls but is generally useful in acquiring the basic skills required to become a competent player.
The new controls give a flow to the game the likes of which I have yet to see in a sports game; everything is fluid and life-like and when a ten-pass flowing move ends with your centre-forward slotting the ball past the hapless opposition keeper, there is a great feeling of satisfaction. Initially, the brain goes in to overdrive, buzzing with a bewildering combination of buttons and controller movements, but it's a very effective system that allows the user to perform some very slick moves.
In my opinion though, the control system has a couple of annoying flaws, one crucial, the other purely cosmetic. It's very difficult to make effective tackles using the Wii Remote, and the user can feel like they are never really in control when defending. The other issue I have is in order to shoot on goal you just wave the nunchuck, which is very disappointing as there is no capacity to place the ball, meaning your centre-forward will pick his own spot. Your midfielder that you have just played in to the box will likely blaze it wide, however.
There are Cup and League modes with domestic and international teams. Another irritation is that despite using real players' names, the League team names are something to behold. It took a few minutes to give teams like 'Liverpool Red' their proper names...
The onlinemode is generally very effective and this is where the game comes in to its own; what is a good game in one player becomes even better when you can play other users online. The online mode is quite basic, but very effective, with matches progressing without much lag.
The Wii version of PES 2008 is a different experience from other football games, using a unique control system, which though difficult to master is rewarding in the end. There are issues with controlling your defenders, but they do not detract too much from the game. The online experience also provides a great testing ground for your talent. All in all, PES 2008 offers a new experience in football games using the Wii's unique controllers very effectively.
As this was the first ever game I bought in football wise for the Nintendo Wii, I didn't know what to expect from the game. Well the game doesn't disappoint when it comes to multiplayer mode either having local or online play available are extremely intertesting. While local connection can sometimes suffer slightly from lag (depending on where your foe is playing from) then main issue with it is the lack of people wanting to play. This isn't a problem if you already have friends to have a few matches with but beware people just looking to play a random person is hard to find. Other than those two minor gripes online play is every bit as good as local play, I only wish i could more people online. Players stats calculate if he will be on target, which foot he will kick with and if hes smart enough to beat the keeper which I really didn't like. But the overall gameplay is great but I still think the controls can be really tricky.
Pro Evolution has long been considered the ruling football game across all platforms. However, with a much improved version of FIFA already released on the Wii, Pro Evolution Soccer found itself in unfamiliar teritory of having to play catch up on the Wii.
The game itself is designed specifically for the Wii (which led to it being released a lot later than versions on other consoles). To play you use the wii remote and nunchuk to guide your players around the pitch whilst instructing them to pass into the areas you indicate by pointing and clicking to where you want the ball to go.
At first this is a major task to achieve but there is a very helpful help option to use to familiraise yourself with the controls. Once you are ready to go there are some amazing plays to be had by dragging your players into attacking positions and confusing the opposition with some mazy runs from your players.
Not perfect but a good solid start from the Pro Evo guys on the Wii. The next version should fix some of the problems this version has (its almost impossible to defend properly with this version using the new control system)
I never really enjoyed any football games on consoles until I saw the advert for PES 2008 so thought I'd give it a try. I managed to get the game in near new condition for £15 from Game and there's very rarely another game in the Wii now!
I thought that it'd be too hard to learn how to control the players with off the ball runs etc, but there's a very useful learning base called "camps", where it shows you the bare basics you need to get started right through to advanced skills, such as offside traps and set pieces. I'm glad that Konami realised that this would be a problem for most users and I feel that they dealt with it very well.
With such a variety of things to do I'm still not bored of the game after months of playing. The "Champions Road" is a series of tournaments where you build your own team by beating the best that the world has to offer. During this, it also takes you through further advanced skills and tactics to help you along the way. Very useful and kept me busy for hours on end.
Of course the ultimate goal is to be good enough to be able hold your own playing online and the design of the game is laid out so well that I was confident enough to try this very quickly and did quite well.
If i'd have known that I'd enjoy playing the game this much I'd have bought it when it first came out and paid a lot more than I did. I can't wait for PES 2009.
All in all I think this is a well deserved pat on the back for Konami and Nintendo for coming together and creating such an easy to learn, enjoyable game that will literally have you running about the room after the ball. Two words, PURE GENIUS.
Ever since I bought my first console I found myself drawn to all variety of football games. In particular I found the Fifa and Pro Evo series to be my favourites. When I recently got rid of my Xbox and replaced it with a Nintendo WII I wasn't entirely sure how I would still be able to satisfy my desire to play Football games on a console. That was until I was given a copy of Pro Evo 2008 by my fiancée for my birthday and the chance to find out if my enjoyment of football games was totally gone had presented itself.
It was always going to be a tricky console to convert football games onto and it seems that both Konami and EA have risen to the challenge. The first thing to note about the WII version of Pro Evo soccer isn't the graphics or the lack of official licences but it is in fact the control system. Konami have introduced the advanced point and click control system that enables you to make runs into space and plan passes well ahead of the actual game play. The real question though, is does it really work?
As it happens my opinion is a resounding yes. The new method of play that allows you to plan your runs, shooting and passing ahead of time really makes this a title that makes your brain work a little while you play it. That's not saying that Pro Evo doesn't have its faults, just about every title in the Pro Evo series has had but this new approach to the football game seems like it could be a very interesting development in console gaming.
Of course the controls for this game are slightly different to every football game I've played in that you have to point at the area you want your players to move into. For this reason before you get started straight into a match Konami have designed a number of training methods to give you an idea of exactly what you're meant to be doing. This works well and means you aren't just launching into games without a clue of what you are doing.
While the passing, crossing, shooting and running all work incredibly well I found the new controls and game play in general was not geared up for defending. To tackle an opposition player seems to take far too much effort and even when you follow the instructed method of tackling your players seem to let the opposition almost get to the goal before tackling them. While they have managed to master the other elements of the game this is an area that is seriously lacking and probably one that will put a lot of players off.
Like the previous PES games I've played the in game graphics are a bit hit and miss. The game play itself relies on the traditional side view of the pitch with the players running around and not looking particularly detailed or advanced. It's when you score a goal and do replays that the graphics really step up a bit and look far more impressive. The detail in the player's facial features and celebration looks far better than the actual in game graphics. It's perhaps an area that Konami will now work on improving as I really felt the graphics let the in game play down a little.
Also following in the traditional PES vein they still haven't got the official licensed names of all the teams. The game features all the major top leagues from around the world and even international teams and players, but still don't have the right to use certain team's proper names. For example I've spent most of my time playing as West Berkshire Blues, going by the player's names I'm guessing they are meant to be Reading. I think like the defending aspect and the in game graphics this is a factor that lets the game down and will perhaps put people off buying this title.
There are 4 different game types within PES which include a single match, a league formation, Cup competition or the Champions Road. Obviously three of these are pretty self explanatory and allow you to choose teams from the main leagues featured within the games and internationals. The final game type, the Champions Road, is PES's career mode, something that is becoming more and more frequent within football games. This is where most of the games longevity comes in and although it only allows you to play one full season, it keeps you playing the game for more than just one or two matches at a time. While it's a shame it only lasts for one season, it's still a good element to the game and helps you to develop your skills.
The multiplayer option allows two of you to play against each other and it works reasonably well. I think it would have been better though if you were able to play with 4 people rather than just one against one. It's a minor complaint that in the grand scheme of things isn't worth worrying about, but again is an aspect that will put some people off this title.
Overall though I am very impressed with the conversion of the first proper football title onto the WII format. Of course there has been Mario Smash Football but in comparison to this it's been left miles behind. I'm yet to find out how this stacks up against the new Fifa release but despite its flaws I think that PES 2008 is the first innovative title that will help to give the WII that competitive edge with the PS3 and X box 360. As a football fan and in particular an avid fan of console football games I'm impressed with the controls on the WII that more than make up for the bad points that Konami have within this title. Final words? Well if you like Football games, give this a try.
Having been a football fan from an early age I couldn't wait to get a football game for my shiny, new Wii. STOP PRESS Given that I support West Bromwich Albion, I guess I can't be considered a football fan, instead a tortured soul whose endured some terrible football matches. Anyway enough of that, having reviewed Fifa 2008 for the Wii you can guess my disappointment when I came to play EA's latest offering. Therefore my hope turned towards Konami's Pro Evolution 2008. Despite never being a great fan of the Pro Evolution series, I felt that after the mundane experience that was Fifa 2008 it could only get better. How right I was.
The success of Pro Evolution Soccer (PES) 2008 has been down to Konami's rethink of strategy and its innovation at producing a game that utilises the point and click nature of the Wii Remote. After watching a friend play PES 2008 I was unsure that the revolutionaty control system was right for me, having been used to holding down circle to shoot, square to lob, x to pass and so on. This new control system, after all, looked like hell to try and control - let alone trying to win a football match using it. However a few training sessions - the game lets you practise and pick up new moves as you go - and a few matches I was hooked. This control system has been a revolution and is groundbreaking in the history of football games. Hopefully now, the days of pressing x to pass are long gone. Konami has obviously thought long and hard about PES 2008. Fifa 2009 - take note.
To attempt to summarise the control system of PES 2008 in a few words would be to do it a grave injustice. Nevertheless I'm going to have to try. The runs of players are controlled by pointing at them, holding A and dragging an arrow to the place that you want to move them to. Passes are executed by clicking on the player designated to receive the pass and pressing B (or double-pressing it for a lobbed pass). Sound complicated so far? You bet. But its much easier than I'm making it sound, and it makes for the best football experience ever on a computer console.
It really grieved me that, upon returning to Fifa 2008 to see if my initial (negative) impressions were right, I did not have the power to tell players to make runs where I wanted them. PES 2008 solves this with a hard-to-explain but user-friendly control system. Shooting is done through a shake of the nunchuk, and apparently it all depends on timing. Despite the fact that I initially found it wierd that I was flailing my nunchuk about whenever I got into the penalty area, nothing is more satisifying than getting on the end of a pin-point cross, or belting home a 30-yard winner in stoppage time through the power of my nunchuk.
My only criticism of the controls would be that attacking free kicks, which are again controlled through the nunchuk, seem completely random as surely there can be no sense of timing in taking a free kick? Aside from this the controls are fantastic. Cross-field balls to opposite wingers are made so easy, so too are pin-point crosses into the penalty area.
PES 2008's strength, aside from its controls, is its depth. The Master League allows you to control a team in the English, French, Spanish, German etc premier leagues for one season. Before I receive any backlash - YES I did slate Fifa 2008 for only having a one-season career mode. But Fifa 2008 did not have PES 2008's revolutionary control system, nor did it have PES's Champions Road mode.
Champions Road mode allows the player to take control of a team and compete in mini-leagues, acquiring better players and upgrade points in the process. This mode is addictive, as I found myself repeatedly playing against better teams in order to get the players from the opposition to join my juggernaut of a team. Throw into the mix some of the best club sides, some international competitions as well as Classic XI International Teams and you have PES's highly addictive and playable Champions Road. Months after getting PES 2008 I was playing Classic Brazil just to get Pele (or Palm as he is known on the game).
The game boasts an online mode which, to be honest, is a mixed bag. Sometimes I find that I'm having the best online football experience ever, and other times I'll get really frustrating lags that make online play impossible, even comical. Nevertheless it's worth persevering worth, whilst hoping that Konami rectify this for PES 2009.
This brings me to another minor drawback. PES 2008 does not hold the licences for (many) team names and (some) player names. Therefore you may find yourself playing against Middlebrook (Bolton) and Birmingham Village (Aston Villa), but with a game this good, who cares? Anyway if you have enough time (err...like I did) then you can change all the team names anyway.
To conclude, I can't rate this game highly enough. Just when I thought developers were forgetting the average football fan, along came PES 2008. Its unique control system may not be for some. It wasn't for me at first. But after I got over the shock of pointing and clicking it was a revolution. The control system works like a dream (as you've probably gathered by now), and Champions Road provides so much depth to a game that already boasts a season-style mode. In all this drooling over the controls I almost forgot to mention that you can save the goals that you've scored.
Anyway, PES 2008 is a fantastic game and one that I guarantee will be copied and immitated many times. This is the one that started the ball rolling (ends on a bad pun).
I bought this having enjoyed Fifa and Pro Evo on other consoles. The new control method really interested me.
Having spent a good few weeks with the game I must say that the controls on the Wii are pretty good. They certainly add a new dimension to the game, better than button bashing at least. However, they are not that accurate, pointing and missing happens quite a bit. Having said that, I would much rather use this new control method over the myriad of buttons on the XBox 360 version.
The graphics are very good for a Wii game, sound is also good, but that is as far as it goes. The only thing that should make you want to give it a try is the controls.
Overall, this is an average game, as it lacks the high end graphics. If it was a bit cheaper then I would recommend it.
Wii version of the ever popular football game.