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Member Name: GeoffD
Disadvantages: Overpriced goods for consumers and overheads negate earnings for distributors
My ex has been working for these guys for over two years despite me warning her from day one that it would be a complete waste of her time and effort. Her 'uplines' initially gave her lots of encouragement but over the last year, due to them being aware of my views, they have not been pushy as they've been happy to see her producing some steady sales which help them to meet their own targets and alleviate the need to find yet another replacement.
I've read the positive reviews on here from Kleeneze distributors who are either full of initial enthusiasm (and a lack of business acumen) or who are sufficiently well up the line to be earning a reasonable income due to the fact that they took up this opportunity in its early days and make most of their money from the sweat of others.
It is easy putting catalogues out but it is NOT easy collecting them in and this is especially true of Kleeneze who do not allocate territories and thus cause a lot of ill-will not only with their potential customers but also within their own ranks. The fact that the catalogues cost you money and the fact that you also have to pay for the privilege of placing orders (a monthly internet charge) should warn anyone immediately that this business likes to make as much money out of its distributors as possible - not being content with the money they make from them with the sales.
After two years of working for Kleeneze my ex has built up a database of several hundred customers, a handful of which will place an order every time. Nonetheless her average order per period will be less than £300 and when you take out the £8 cost of the internet ordering and the petrol involved in distributing the catalogues, two/three attempts to collect them, the delivery of the orders and the banking of cheques then what you are left with equates to an hourly rate of pay which is a tiny fraction of the minimum wage!
For the first six months of this year my ex's net earnings after deduction of legitimate expenses (fuel, stationery, catalogue bags, etc) was £90 - £15 per month for at least 15 hours work!! Double the hours and you might just earn a £50 bonus which will still not equate to half the minimum wage.
It should be borne in mind that if you distribute 50 catalogues if you're lucky you might get around 10 orders (sometimes you can actually get none) but you will also lose a percentage of the catalogues - much higher in the early days and the cost of replacing these comes out of any profit you've made so initially you can actually be working for nothing!
I have worked for Betterware and I have far greater respect for their ethos and fairness towards their distributors but nonetheless they are still distributing catalogues selling over-priced goods that no one really needs to a diminishing customer base. The fact that they issue regular catalogues, free to their distributors, and ensure that there is no more than one person working in any one area gives you a greater opportunity for making money if you are doing it on the scale that my ex is.
I have also worked for Oriflame which has far more potential as cosmetics are something that women and men will always want and thus a monthly catalogue means a guaranteed regular income once you have established your initial customer base with the added bonus that there are no bulky items to deliver.
In these economic times and with the competition from both the internet and low cost high street shops I believe that the future for these catalogue companies is bleak and thus realistic earning opportunities are far removed from those suggested by the people doing the sponsoring/recruiting but if you are truly desperate to earn some money and are not adverse to hard, uncomfortable (in the winter) work and the abuse of householders tired of refusing catalogues then give it a go but don't say you haven't been warned.
Summary: Don't be taken to the Kleeners!