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The dilemma with the MMR press (Kids' Vaccinations in general)

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Kids' Vaccinations in general

Date: 25/03/02 (3193 review reads)
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If you have a small child you will probably soon be told by your health visitor or GP that it?s time to vaccinate him or her. Both will probably tell you that vaccines are safe and that all the studies carried out have proven their safety. And you might wonder if this is really true.

Maybe you remember your own childhood when you had measles, mumps, rubella, chickenpox. Or maybe you just wonder why it is that some of the ingredients in vaccines are considered safe in vaccines when they are considered highly poisonous otherwise, such as thimerasol, a mercury derivative, formaldehyde, henoxyethanol (antifreeze) to name but a few.

If you are a vegetarian, you may wonder which vaccines contain animal ingredients (see lists of ingredients), or, if you follow beliefs that do not support abortion, you may wonder if any vaccines contain aborted fetal tissue. GPs have recently been encouraged by the government to push the MMR vaccine even more, following the Prime Minister?s refusal to state whether his youngest son Leon was vaccinated against MMR. This opinion will provide you with some information which many doctors are highly unlikely to give you.

Let?s start with the recommended vaccination schedule in the UK (verified with NHS direct, Tel. 0845-4647 on March 1st, 2002):

2 months DPT + polio + HIB, Men C
3 months DPT + HIB, Men C
4 months DPT + HIB, Men C
13 months MMR
3-5 years pre-school booster (Dip. Tet + Polio) & booster MMR
10-14 yrs BCG (skin test, possibly followed by vaccine)
13-18 yrs diphtheria, tetanus, polio oral
NHS Direct was not able to state whether the live or inactive polio vaccine is currently used, but said that both are recommended.

Below, you will find a list of ingredients for each recommended vaccine:

DPT: Aluminium phosphate, formaldehyde, ammonium sulphate, washed sheep red blood cells, glycerol, sodium chloride, thimerosal

Polio: IPOL: 3 types of polio
virus, formaldehyde, henoxyethanol (antifreeze), neomycin, streptomycin, polymyxin B; Orimune: using 3 types of attenuated polioviruses, streptomycin, neomycin, calf serum, sorbitol

HIB: polyribosylribitol, ammonium sulfate, thimerosal

Men C: thimerasol, lactose

MMR: sorbitol, neomycin, hydrolyzed gelatin

BCG: glycerine, asparagine, citric acid, potassium phosphate, magnesium sulphate, and iron ammonium citrate. The final preparation prior to freeze-drying also contains lactose.

(For more information on single measles, mumps and rubella vaccines see below)

You may want to know other things about the vaccines, such as:

What are these vaccines attenuated on?
DPT: porcine pancreatic hydrolysate of casein (pig)
Polio: Ipol: VERO cells, a continuous line of monkey kidney cells; Orimune: monkey kidney cell culture
HIB: chemically defined, yeast based
Men C: freeze dried polysaccharride antigens from Neisseria Meningitidis
MMR: M and M: chick embryo; R: human diploid cells
BCG: live mycobacteria

What does ?attenuated? mean?
A live virus that is used to make a vaccine has to be weakened in order not to be virulent.

Which adjuvants are used?
The most common adjuvants are aluminium hydroxide, aluminium phosphate and calcium phosphate. A number of other adjuvants based on oil emulsions, products from bacteria (their synthetic derivatives as well as liposomes) or gram-negative bacteria, endotoxins, cholesterol, fatty acids, aliphatic amines, paraffinic and vegetable oils are also used.

What is an adjuvant?
A substance added to a vaccine to improve the immune response so that less vaccine is needed to produce a nonspecific stimulator of the immune response.

What are ?human diploid cells??
Aborted fetal tissue

Which vaccines are attenuated in human diploid cells?
IPV (injectable polio), hepatitis A vaccine, Varicella (chicken pox
vaccine), rubella vaccine, single measles vaccine, & rabies vaccine

What is an encephalitic cry?
An encephalitic cry is a high pitched, piercing cry.

Can this be caused by a vaccine?
Yes - the most likely to cause this is the DPT - it can happen any time between hours and a number of days after the DPT vaccine was given.

You may wonder about other things, such as:

What studies have been carried out to prove that mercury, aluminium, formaldehye, carbolic acid, etc. are safe for injecting into the human body?

Why is it that every medication is adjusted for weight/age but most vaccines given to a newborn 3kg baby are exactly the same as vaccines administered to a 7 year old 25 kg child? And why are some adult vaccines half the potency of the child version of the
vaccine (eg CDT and ADT)?

Does your GP report adverse reactions to vaccines when they are reported by parents?

Is your GP aware that less than 10% of reactions are reported by doctors and if so, does it concern him or her that our safety statistics are at least 90% incorrect?

What about the risk to children who have food allergies such as egg and milk? Is there an increased risk the child could develop further allergies?

Does any of the inserts specifically say that children with eczema, or a family history of eczema should avoid future vaccinations?

Here in the UK, the MMR debate has also led to the question whether the single measles, mumps and rubella vaccines are safer.

Here are the ingredients:

Measles: min. of 1000 TCID50 measles virus, modified gelatin, lactalbumin hydrolisate, d-sorbitol, lactose

Mumps: neomycin, sorbitol, hydrolyzed gelatin, attenuated on human diploid cells

Rubella: neomycin, sorbitol, hydrolyzed gelatin, attenuated on human diploid cells

What are the risks if my child does not get any vaccinations?
Strictly speaking, there is n
o risk if your child is healthy; diphteria as well as polio have only surfaced as vaccine side-effects in at least the last 20 years. Tetanus is extremely rare and can safely be treated homoeopathically. Furthermore, approx. 50% of all Tetanus cases occur in people who are vaccinated against the disease. HIB is rarer than the adverse reaction to the vaccine it is supposed to prevent. Measles, mumps and rubella are self-limiting if contracted during childhood in a healthy child. And if your child is not healthy, do you really want his/her immune system to be compromised? A vaccine does that beyond doubt. The NHS book was quoted to me regarding the polio vaccines currently offered, on March 1st, 2002. The NHS book states that the inactive polio vaccine carries a great risk of the vaccinated person contracting wild polio. So, why would anyone want to be vaccinated against polio if they continue to be at risk of contracting polio, a disease which has not surfaced in at least 20 years except as a reaction to the vaccine.

How many people contract measles in any given year, and how many of those are not vaccinated?
In 2001, the number of measles cases reported in the UK were 2,307, out of which 1808 were tested in laboratories. The total amount of tested, confirmed cases of measles was 31 out of the tested cases. Unfortunately, no numbers are available for vaccinated/unvaccinated cases.

Did you know that your GP has a financial interest in vaccinating your child? If 70% of the children who are registered with your GP get vaccinated, he/she gets a bonus payment, which will increase substantially if 90% of the children on his register get vaccinated!

Please, please do your homework before you believe your GP's or the media's words that vaccinations are necessary or safe. Do not, ever, forget, that so far, nobody has been able to quote any scientific proof whatsoever that even remotely suggest that vaccinations are either effective or safe. Thi
s scientific proof does NOT exist!

I am not saying don't have your children vaccinated. But I am saying that it should be your choice, and yours alone. Don't allow anyone else to make that choice for you.

If you want to find out more information on vaccination, visit the following websites:
http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm
http://www.vaccinationnews.com
http://www.whale.to/vaccines.html
http://www.909shot.com
copyright Claudia Ayaz

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steve_glover

- 20/02/09

Dangerous nonsense - even the Daily Mail(!) has recanted: http://www.dailymail.co.u k/femail/article-1149322/ How-middle-class-MMR-refu seniks-putting-child-risk .html

The MMR/Autism link comes from "research" that has since been completely debunked
sandemp

- 14/02/05

Now we are all entitled to our own opinion, and here's mine : it's irresponible not to allow your child to be vaccinated, IF THEY ARE HEALTHY. I feel like this for two reasons, firstly I lost a little brother due to the fact my mum contracted rubella in the early stages of pregnancy. Secondly, I have a child who is at very great risk from these illnesses and if he caught them beleive me he could die, therefore due to the fact that so many parents are NOT allowing their child to be vaccinated I had to put my son at risk of having a very severe seizure and possibly dying, and get him vaccinated.
tracyhay

- 16/01/03

Brilliant Op! Hope you continue to enlighten!

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