After owning 3 of these machines (I had to keep taking them back!) I have decided to give up on hard drive based MP3 players and go back to good reliable old solid state ones. I have loads of MP3?s and like to take em with me when I travel, so I wanted something with lots of storage and preferably a long battery life. The batteries on the Archos last a lot longer than the Creative Labs (of which I also had 2 that broke, but that?s another review), but still only about 4 or 5 hours. The main problem I had with the Archos was that it kept crashing. I installed the firmware upgrades from the website as suggested by the retailer, but unfortunately this didn?t help. And the third and final machine had an odd habit of switching the power light on and then locking me out from the buttons so that I couldn?t do anything about it until the power ran out. Which was creepy. If it wasn?t for these problems (and lets face it, ?It Not Working? is a pretty major problem!) I quite liked the Archos! I liked the way you could organise your files anyway you liked in folders like on any other hard drive, rather than the player organise them by tag. And the way you could use Music Match playlists (which is my Mp3 prog of choice anyway) although they seem to have to be in the root. I suppose it IS possible that I was unlucky with the 3 I got (from 2 different stores!), but sadly I think that probably all hard drive based players have stability problems. I now have an MPIO DME 128MB + 128MB SM and it?s fantastic!
I have owned the Jukebox for about 10 months now, and can say that it is a pretty damn good unit. I ordered mine from www.archos.com £215 all in to my door, it took about 4 days to come. Now costs from www.archos.com direct £150, £250ish for the 20Gb recording version. It came with (this may be different now, check the site) headphones (pants), USB cable, tape player (for playing in a car cassette player), car adapter, neoprene carry case, mains adapter, inline remote control (I haven't really used this), drivers for Windows/Mac. It is quite a pleasing size, fits relatively nicely in your hand and has a good solid feel to it. However it is not light, I can't remember what it weighs but you couldn't exactly jog with it in a pocket, or even have it in a shirt pocket without you being very aware of the weight. It is certainly heaver than any CD player, but a better shape. The look may not appeal to most but I find it quite rugged looking and in practice also, having survived several drops, the blue rubber bumbers doing their job well. The buttons do feel a little bit plastic but have stood the test of time well, I believe that the 20Gb recorder has chrome effect buttons which need a coat of lacquer to stop the finish coming off! It holds lots of mp3's probably about 65-70 cd's worth depending on how it has been encoded (I have a mixture of 128kbs and vbr). The audio quality is as good as any other mp3 player I have listened to (I have used about 5 different ones including the iPod which is so cool but non upgradable). A lot of people have commented on the web about the volume being not very load, well this is true if you use the crappy bud earphones that come with the unit. Solution - get Koss Sporta Pro's not pretty, not cheap (£25) but excellent volume and kicking bass. The standard firmware is not that good but as has been mentioned elsewhere it can be upgraded. Now here it ge
ts good! You have the choice of the latest firmware from Archos or.... there is a team of developers who in true open source web linux stylee have reverse engineered the workings of the Jukebox and produced their own firmware called RockBox (get it here http://rockbox.haxx.se and take time to read the site first). This firmware is a vast improvement on the standard firmware allowing creation of playlists, better display and scrolling of directories and song details, also better output of sound too. One recommendation is to buy a decent set of NiMh 1800mAh AA rechargeables with fast charger, because it takes the standard charger about 3-4 hours to recharge, also the standard batteries in the unit are 1500mAh. Be careful taking of the battery cover too, they are a little bit fragile. I have used this unit as a portable, in my car (and friend's), to transport data files to other computers, and have taken it holiday instead of a boom box (a lot smaller even with biggish Philips BA170 battery powered 6W speakers), the only place it fails is if you wanted to jog with it. Mind you even then you could carry it in your hand I suppose! It can also be upgraded to a bigger hard drive as long as it's a 9.5mm height 2.5" laptop drive (IBM Travelstar 40GN 40Gb IDE 4200rpm) for only £100 although this will obviously invalidate your warranty. A friend of mine has done this and it worked perfectly although the disassembly and reassembly wasn't that easy. All in all an excellent buy.
This is a Mp3 player made by Archos and has 6GB woth ofspace for you to put your Music onto. The specifications ------------------ Weight 290g Capacity 6GB Interface USB Transfer Rates 1.15Mbps Supported OS Mac & PC Battery Life 6-8 Hours Dimensions 4.5 x 3 x 1 Inches Display Backlit LCD with ID3 Tag DC power input With this MP3 player you can store up to 6GB worth of music. The actual design is not that great as you can see fr yourself but it has excellent usability and has excellent build quality. I haven't experimented yet but it could probably survive if you throw it on the floor a couple of times. Unfinished, I'll try to complete tw
I too, like the other reviewers, had to make a nightmare choice of an MP3 player to buy- do I go for a small player with less storage, or a larger player with loads of storage? I went for the Archos Jukebox, as the thought of having 64 or 128MB of storage, was a nightmare- you go on holiday, you'd have to cart sapre memory with you!! And, let's get one thing straight too- so many people quote "it can store xxx CDs" or something similar. As MP3s can be compressed at variable sizes, this is a useless statistic. A popular, and very listenable compression rate is 128k. As such a comression, it eqates to approx 1MB per minute- you can do the maths- 6GB, the storage on this player, equals 6000MB, hence 6000 minutes or 100 hours of play, approximately, at 128k compression. The transfer speed from PC to the device is via USB, and is reasonably fast. As mentioned in other reviews, bin the headphones they supply. A nice touch was that Archos supply a spare set of rechargeable batteries, which I thought was excellent. The battery life is reasonable, I get between 5-7 hours of listening, although I hear figures quoted above and below that. All in all, a bulky unit, and heavy, but with so much music on board, you have to pay for it somehow. An undocumented 'feature'- if you know what you're about, you can replace the 6GB hard disk (which is a standard laptop size HDD), with, say, a 20GB version, and hey presto, a much bigger capacity. However, this will invalidate your warranty, so don't try it unless you feel confident :-) Finally, if you fancy getting a decent storage case, you can buy a metal CD storage case in a High St. shop (rhymes with Bargos), put foam in, cut out a hole for the player, and you have a sturdy case for it.
I recently had the aggravating decision to make as to whether I should acquire a nice, small, discreet minidisk player, or the hefty, bulgy Archos Jukebox. I chose the Jukebox, and bought it for £200 (the cheapest I've seen it for. It was definitely the right choice. > Why is the jukebox the best portable music player? Well, the Archos Jukebox is basically large MP3 player, but with its own, impressively large harddisk (6 gigabites.) This harddisk can store up to 100 hours of music, 150 CD's. (For some reason, the separation of music on to different CD's means that you can only actually store up to 81 hours of music, but my entire CD collection doesn’t exceed that, so I'm not complaining!) This means that you can store your entire music collection onto this device. It can only play MP3 files, but the package comes with a program that allows you to quickly transfer your CD music to MP3 format, which can then be quickly transferred to the box. BUT - although it an only PLAY MP3 files, it can store absolutely anything else as a harddrive! For example, if you wanted a large program that your friend has on their computer (anything up to 6 gigabites) you can link the box to their computer, put the program onto it, then bring it home and transfer it to your computer! The way you organise and categorize your music couldn't really be simpler. You just have a folder that you organise just like the folders on your desktop, by creating new folders and dragging your music into them. How convenient. As for music quality, generally it’s fine. The volume range is 0 - 100 decibels - which is fine. You can change bass/ treble too. The device comes free with some headphones - aren’t very good, so don't panic if you get one, and discover the sound quality isn't crystal clear! I think I have justified my purchase enough now and I should strongly suggest you do to if your looking for
a portable music device. You’ll never have to worry about losing CD's again!
If you are a real music buff like me then you must by now be considering buying an mp3 player. With so many machines on the market it can be an absalute nightmare picking one to suit your needs. Worry no more because the Archos Jukebox 6000 is every music fans dream. This device uses a whopping 6Gb hard disk with room for an incredible 1,500 tracks or approximately 150 cds. Many people could fit their entire music collection on this single device. Installing the Jukebox is really easy. You just plug in the USB cable into your computer which when rebooted windows will simply treat as a second hard disk. Archos provide you with a full version of the Musicmatch software which enables you to convert your cd's to mp3 files. Reasons for buying this machine are excellent value, excellent sound and the huge ammount of tracks you can store and take with you anywhere. The only faults I can pick with the machine are the illogical menu system and as with all machines you are better off replacing the headphones. overall an excellent machine at an excellent price, especially considering most machines cost around the £200.00 mark and can only store around 50mins worth of songs and for as little as £249.99 you could be strutting down the high street with your entire music collection on you. A must Buy for all music fans
After spending much time looking at the MP3 player market I summarised the following three options:- 1) Memory stick 'type' player - Looks nice, small, but 64mb (or whatever) - What's the point..... 2) CD/MP3 player - Only limited by the amount of CD's you want to carry, but a bit big and a lot of messing about burning CD's 3) Hard Disk player - Basically 6gb of music on a portable hard drive. I pondered between 2 and 3, and eventually decided to splash out an extra 100 quid and go for a hard disk type. This basically gave me a choice between the DAP and the Archos 6000. I was instantly drawn to the 6000 (and henced purchased) due to it's smaller size (same height and width as a palm pilot, and about an inch deep) and it's easy uploading / downloading facility via the USB. (You are able to hot plug the unit in, and just drag and drop files from explorer. What could be easier!). Good points:- The unit is small, and quick to upload to. The firmware upgrade from the website is very straight forward. Using the line out into my car stereo, or my home stereo, the sound is clear and full. No complaints there. 6gb storage - speaks for itself. I use to DJ, and I am putting ALL of my old vinyl (three huge boxes) records onto the player along with my album collection. - Any single track from my collection at the touch of a button - WOW!!!! It could fit in your pocket, unlike the DAP Bad Points:- Firmware shipped with the unit was a bit poor, but the upgrade solved a few things. Some items are still a bit dodgy (the shuffle function), but I heard they will be sorted in the next update. Sound from the headphones is a bit flat, and can distort when the base is turned up, although I bought mine mainly for car use so this doesn't bother me. Smallish screen - Few controls, so for some options you have to use combinations of button presses. Overall, top product, very
happy. Would be a 5/5 if it wasn't for the slightly feeble sound from the headphones
Archos – never heard of them. That was my first reaction and of course before parting with my hard earned spondoos I checked out their web site. Turns out they make things small, lots of things, dvds, hard drives, cds – all meant to be connected to laptops. So, I said to myself perhaps there is some truth in the rumors they make a 6Gb hard disk based mp3 player. Next step – shop around on the web for the best deal !! The price of this little beast varies from £250 to £300 depending where you shop (I bought mine at www.buy.com). Having parted with my credit card details 24 hours later they little blue and silver fella turned up and what a pretty little beast it is too, slightly bigger than a fag packet and about as heavy as my mobile phone. It felt solid although the little button for controlling the unit seem a little bit plasticy. Opening the box you also get a CD with drivers for PC and MACs, a copy of musicmatch mp3 player (albeit an out of date one !!), rechargeable batteries already installed, user guide, carry case, head phones, USB cable and mains adaptor. For once I decided to read the manual, first page said it needed to be charged for 6 hours ! DOH !! During charging the box gets hot, really hot !!……six hours later , PC booted and USB cable all plugged in and I was ready to do some serious transferring. Transferred my whole 3Gb MP3 collection in an hour or so and also my digital photos – since this little box can store any PC file you throw at it. You can also copy them back off (just by dragging and dropping) – unlike the Creative jukebox which to be honest is the main thing that sets this unit apart and the sole reason I chose it over Creative’s offering !! I should say however that during my transferring everything hung up once, personally I think my laptop was the problem rather than the archos. After a reboot everything worked fine. I also noticed that the firmware version of the ‘out of the box
217; unit was well out of date, so I downloaded the latest from the archos website followed the installation instructions, all very easy and painless and worked a treat. The sound quality of the unit is as good as my laptop any day and the volume level at the full setting is more than loud enough for all but the stone deaf. It also has a 2Mb buffer (40 seconds of music) – having given the unit a good shake I couldn’t make it skip or miss. To summerise I would say that this little unit is well worth £250, it is solidly built and the sound quality will easily meet the demands of most people. My main gripes are that the lcd panel on the front is too small. This means that when you are scrolling down your tracks you only see the first dozen or so letters and have to wait a couple of seconds for the name itself to scroll horizontally. Secondly, you cannot create playlists on the unit you need to do it on your PC and copy them over. By default if you press play to play a track the unit will continue to play all the tracks in that directory.