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After finding out I was pregnant with third child we considered the pram choice very carefully as I suffer with arthritis I wanted something that I could manage to put up and collapse easily so I needed something light. We thought that the mamas and papas name would equate with quality and would be all we would need till baby was out of pushchair. Two months one I think we were sadly mistaken.
I chose the Herbie because it was lighter than the other m&p prams we looked at in store. The pram is very attractive with a chrome frame. Although within two days my husband put the pram down and the frame got scratched on the pavement not so attractive then. I have further scratched the frame on several occasions and I feel that the way the pushchair collapses allows this to happen. I choose the hot and bothered versions although afterwards I was worried it might be a little girly although I had a daughter so this wasn't really a problem. The pram gets lots of positive comments in terms of the design and my daughter seems intrigued by the blocks of colour in the hood.
This unfortunately is where the positive features end. It is very hard to control the wheels tend to lock and its very hard to push around corners I find it particularly difficult when I have my older daughter with me as you need both hands to make any attempt to steer it. Another thing to consider is that you cannot get a buggy board to fit it.
Perhaps the most worrying feature of this pram is the fact that the frame will not stay in a flat position the carrycot tips if the baby is not placed at the bottom of the pram which was fine until my daughter started moving up the carrycot and then it tipped so her feet were higher than her head which is not a safe sleeping position. Overall I am not impressed at all with this purchase considering the price of £350 I feel that I could have made a much better purchase.
After months of trying out all the latest models of prams we bought the Herbie in Birdy Play design. I was impressed with how sturdy it felt compared to other prams and also how large the carrycot (I planned on using the carrycot as a moses basket too). The design was gorgeous and it got the "oohs and ahhs" I wanted from passers by. However, after just 2 months I started having problems with both front wheels - the swivel position would keep locking and prevent me from turning easily. Mamas and Papas happily took it back to fix but after 2 weeks it came back no different. I learnt to cope with the faulty wheels but with a £580 price tage I was bitterly disappointed. The the shopping basket ripped because of the way the wheels fold up into the basket putting strain on the basket and the hood began to fade (8 months old) - when I rang M&P wishing to order new parts I was told the at becasue the pram was now old stock (8 months old) they could not be replaced. In th end I bought a stroller but would have really liked to use this pram to its full age 3 recommendation. It is now in my garage waiting to be thrown out and will certainly not be used by baby number 2. Such a shame
After spending months looking around for a pram travel system I thought I was going to buy a 3 wheeled system until I saw the herbie pram system. The pram felt so sturdy compared to equal priced prams. I bought the birdy play fabric as I knew I was having a baby boy and the lining was a lovely light blue with birds and trees on the inside. The carry cot fitted onto the pram body very easy. We also used the carry cot as baby's bed in the house for the first 6 weeks instead of spending more money on a moses basket.
We also got the car seat to fit the pram in the same teal blue colour.
I am still using the pram in the pushchair mode now my son is 17 months as you can have the little one facing you or out to the world depending on the weather. I like this pram in windy weather as it does not feel like it is being blown about on exposed walks and my son feels snug and safe.
We had already chosen our travel system when we stumnbled across the Ziko Herbie in Mama and Papas! It was on special offer and we were lured by the funky design and chassis style pram - similar to the more expensive Qunny's. We ordered one in Green (known as Nicey) and awaited it's arrival. The delivery and customer service of Mama and Papas was great and the product arrived when promised. The assembly of the pram/carry cot was easy enough for my husband (I was heavily pregnant so sat and watched!) It looked fantastic!
The chassis folds down flat in one simple move and clicks to lock. It is however quite heavy and bulky to lift in and out the boot. We have a large Renault scenic but I think you would struggle to fit this in the boot of smaller cars.
The wheels are sturdy and I have never thought the buggy might tip over which can happen with the popular 3-wheelers. The wheels are also inflatable and the pram comes with a mini tyre pump to enable you to maintain tyre pressure. The back wheels can be easily removed (for storage purposes) and the smaller front wheels can be locked into position.
The basket underneath is a decent size and easily holds the changing bag with plenty of room left for shopping and coats.
The pushchair handle is easily height adjustable - perfect for swapping between parents on a day out.
There are two car seats that fit this travel system - the primo viaggio IP/ES or the pro sleep. We opted for the pro-sleep because it allows you to lie the baby flat when attached to the chassis but we found this seat extremely heavy to lift in and out the car ertc. We later swapped for the Primo Viaggio which is half the weight but this does require adaptors oo the chassis which are not then compatible with the carry cot - so have to be removed prior to use.
All in all the pram looks modern and appealing and is nice to push around. It is rather heavy though and I'm not sure I'd choose it again as there are so many other prams out there which offer the same benefits but less bulky!
We bought this pram a few months beore my son was born. We bought the Dolly Mixture fabric and loved the design.
We assembled the carrycot first as it was for a newborn. The carrycot is very spacious, far more spacious than others that we looked at and doubled up as a moses basket for the first three months or so. He stayed in the carrycot part when using the pram for 5 months and then he was only moved because he wanted to look around a little more.
When it was time to change over to the seat unit we simply had to undo the clips and press studs on the carrycot and the seat fabric attached to the same frame as the carrycot, along with the hood.
The major advantage for me of this pram is that it allows your baby to remain rear facing once they move into the seat unit. My son is 8 months old now and still facing me, and I cannot imagine being ready to move him round any time soon.
The pram is easy to fold although the seat unit/carrycot does need to be removed from the frame before folding, unless it is in the seat unit facing forward mode.
The pram comes with the rain cover, parasol, changing bag and tyre pump.
There are a few niggles with the pram however:-
1. The handle on my pram slips down quite often, especially when pushing uphill. It is no more than irritating and is easy enough to pull back into place.
2. The fabric has faded quite badly. This is both on the hood and the seat unit. I wouldn't really say that it had been left in strong sunlight for an extended period so think it must be some sort of fault with the fabric.
3. The parasol is not particularly well made, it broke the second time we used it, but it was free!
4. In certain modes it is hard to put the changing bag into the shopping basket.
However, despite these niggles I love my pram and would not hesitate to recommend it to somebody else.
I saw this pram on the m&p website and fell in love.
i bought the herbie in the pattenalia fabric and it was absolutely beautiful.
the carrycot looks so beautiful on. very deep and comfy for baby to sleep in.
the apron fitted really well and the hood covered baby alot too.
The rain cover that comes with the system fits both carry cot and the pushchair unit too and covers the whole pram unit which i though was really good. no more soggy pram :o)
The pushchair unit that comes with this system is lovely and fits onto the same frame as the carrycot as it all just unclips and you slide the pushchair fabric on,a few clips to hold in place and off you go. a really wide seat unit and very well made/padded too for a young child.
harness pads make it much more comfy too as no all pushchairs have these
again the same hood fits this part as the carrycot and still does an excellent job of keeping the sun off.
with the system i also got the matching parasol which was huge! and very easy to fasten onto the frame.
I got the seat liner/cosy toes to fit the pushchair and the arpon from the carrycot zips onto the front to make a proper cosy toes.
and last bit i got was the changing bag which was lovely but on the down side there was no way of hanging it on the pram which was a shame :(
the chassi was nice and easy to push and easy to fold but folded in such a way that all the front of the frame got scratched and looked awful!
the bit i loved best on the frame was of course the handle- perfect for my mum to put as shes only short and adjustable to fit both me and my dad too as we are rather tall lol
All in all an excellent pram and i love it to bits
In May 2008, heavily pregnant, I said these famous last words: 'We'll just go and have a look in Mamas and Papas - I'm NOT buying a new pushchair, we've got one... we're just going to have a look'. Yeah, right. You see, I DID already have a pushchair, from when my eldest daughter was born, but we'd put it into a storage unit, near a van and lorry repair garage and the smell of diesel fumes had permeated the apparently 'air tight' unit, making everything smell. So, it was with that in mind that I thought I'd go and see what new pushchairs were on the market and how much they were (thus making me stop being so lazy and wash the covers on the old one!).
I had in mind to get something very lightweight and had been looking at the Mamas and Papas 'Luna', which is indeed lightweight and can be converted into a pram, using the carry cot (purchased separately). We 'Umm'd and 'ahh'd over the Luna and priced up all of the additional bits and pieces, which came to around £300 - but I just wasn't quite happy. During our time at the store I'd seen the Ziko Herbie and I was developing a pram crush! Unfortunately it was over £500 - way out of my price range. I sighed aloud and told the nice sales man that I thought the Luna was alright but what I really wanted was 'that one'. It was at that point that he turned into my own personal 'shopping angel' - 'I'm sure that's on offer at the moment! It's down to £300'.. this is when my husband whipped out the credit card
WHAT YOU GET:
For our £300 we got the chassis, carrycot attachment, pushchair attachment, footmuff/pram cover, rain cover, sun parasol, pump and changing bag. I thought that this was an excellent price as they sell the changing bag for £50 (!), raincover for £30 and the parasol for £25.
Unfortunately I can't remember the name of the fabric that we chose, but the outer parts are a lovely soft olive green and the interior parts are ivory, with a large 50's/60's flower type pattern in reds and greens - it's really hard to describe it but I get LOADS of compliments on it and Elsa loves it - when she was a small baby she'd lie in the carrycot looking and 'talking' to the flowers! The fabric is a lovely soft, yet, hardwearing cotton and looks very expensive.
The unit consists of the chassis and the main frame, to which the carrycot or pushchair seat, attaches. They are secured to the frame using the heavy duty press-studs on the seat or carrycot. Upon opening the box it took us a while to set up the carrycot, as inserting the base board took a little brute strength, but it was very strong and sturdy once assembled. The pushchair was very easy and popped on in just 2 minutes. The hood remained in place with both options and the footmuff doubled as a carrycot cover.
With excellent, all round suspension, the chassis has solid, swivel/lockable wheels at the front and the rear are larger rubber tyres, with a 'foot-bar' brake. All the wheels are quick release. We got a puncture in one of our rear wheels, which went through to the inner-tube, the good people at Halfords replaced it with a stock inner-tube for only £4.99. It's very easy to maneuver and steering is light - however, the wide rear wheels take some getting used to and I have managed to scuff mine as I have misjudged gaps in the early days (good job I drive a car better than a pushchair!)
The handle is a comfortable bar, thankfully without a sponge covering (the feeling of which goes through me!) and it can be adjusted to 3 different heights by twisting the bar in the middle and lifting up or pushing down.
The carrycot is a lovely size - nice and spacious, with deep enough sides to offer good protection. I'd say that it offered more room than her moses basket at home. Incidentally, you can buy a carrycot stand from Mamas and Papas, so that you can use the carrycot it as baby's bed at home. You can
also use it as a a travel system with the addition of Pro - Sleep IP car seat straight onto the chassis, or the Primo Viaggio IP car seats using seperate car seat adaptors. Personally I didn't bother with this as I preferred Elsa to be lying flat when out and about.
The pushchair is lovely and spacious, with a large seat base and is nicely padded, so Elsa always looks really comfortable in it. She is also very secure with a 5 point harness and the removable bumper bar. The seat has 3 recline positions and can be faced outwards or towards the parent.
You have to remove the seat/carrycot to fold it, but this is easily done by pressing the buttons located either side of the frame and then lifting it off. Folding is very simple, just pull the 2 black collars up on the frame of the chassis and it folds down (not umbrella-folding). It's not the smallest of pushchairs but I fit it easily into my Peugeot 307. A small tip: when you're folding it to put it into the boot of your car, place the seat onto your parcel shelf, so you have both hands free to collapse the chassis.
There is a spacious basket underneath the seat, but it is sometimes difficult to get to, especially when the carrycot is on and when the pushchair is in it's upright position you have to go to the rear of the seat to gain access.
The raincover is easy to put on and has a zip section so you can leave it on, but open it up between showers. The footmuff is easily attached with the zip, but I have yet to use the parasol.
According to the Mamas and Papas site, the dimensions are as follows:
Age Guideline: birth - 15kg
Herbie Weighs: 11kg approx.
Size: H: 100 x W: 64 x D: 78cm approx.
Folded Size: H: 38 x W: 64 x D: 78cm approx.
I'm absolutely thrilled with this pushchair and I'm so glad that we bought it. Elsa always looks really comfortable and secure in it and it looks fantastic! It's a beautiful shape and design, though it's not a lightweight pram, so it's not really suitable for nipping on and off busses (not a problem for me as I have my own car). It's well built, sturdy and cleverly designed.
I would recommend this pram to anyone.
With one chassis you can change Herbie from a carrycot to a pushchair when your little one gets older. The carrycot is also suitable for overnight sleeping with the seperate Mamas & Papas carry cot mattress and carrycot stand. You can also use Herbie as a travel system with the addition of Pro - Sleep IP car seat straight onto the chassis, or the Primo Viaggio IP car seats using seperate car seat adaptors. Herbie is perfect for small storage and offers the flexibility of changing between carry cot and pushchair modes as the fabrics are easily attached and removed from the frame by press studs and clips, which can be stored ready for the pushchair fabrics to be placed onto the frame Herbie Includes: chassis, carrycot, pushchair, footmuff / liner, bag, parasol, raincover and a pump for the tyres