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      16.08.2013 12:14
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      Great for some country air; not so great for comfort.

      I bought this pushchair second hand as a second one just to use for country walks as I was getting fed up with being restricted to walking on roads rather than making use of the footpaths around our village. For what I bought it for I am happy with it, but if this was my main pushchair I would be far less pleased with it.

      Storage and Transport

      I keep this pushchair in an outhouse and wheel it out when I want to go on an off road walk so do not usually have to bother with folding or transporting it. It does fold quite easily by twisting a bar on the handle, then it pushes in on itself. Like all three wheelers it is large and so takes up quite a bit of room, whether up or folded. It is also heavier than a stroller for lifting in and out of a car or bus. I have taken it around garden centres but wouldn't want to take it by public transport or around most shops as its width and length would make it difficult to avoid hitting people or shelves!

      How it is to use

      I find it pleasant to use and push. The bar handle means it can be pushed with one hand for a short time fairly easily. The foam padding makes it comfortable to hold, although the height doesn't seem to adjust. At an average height of 5'6" I find it fine, but if you were much taller or shorter I think you would find it inconvenient. The large air filled wheels means it glides quietly rather than rattling along like my stroller so I find I can walk faster and hear more tweeting birds as they aren't being drowned out by rattling wheels!

      On flat surfaces the front wheel can swivel which makes it easy to steer, although you can't see the front wheel so in a confined space it can be difficult to judge exactly where it is. This can be easily changed to a fixed front wheel by pulling and turning a button above the wheel. It is then much easier to push on rough bumpy terrain. I have used it on very uneven grass, earth and gravel and found it copes with them well, although the weight does make it a bit of a slog on long very uneven walks.

      The underbasket storage is ample and robust so good for storing a change bag as well as other things. It can still be reached easily even when the seat is lying flat. However, the rain cover does not fold flat due to the wires in it so if you have to fit this in the basket it takes up quite a bit of room. There is a large pocket at the back with poppers securing, and also a space between the seat and webbing underneath where you could store things.

      How it is for baby to use

      The negative points of this pushchair mainly seem to be on the baby's side. Basically it just doesn't seem comfortable to be used for any length of time which I would have thought some simple design adjustments could have made much better. The back rest is a hard board with minimal padding and the front of the pushchair has a metal bar which can't be comfortable against the back of their legs. The cosytoes which comes with the pushchair makes it a lot more padded and comfortable but is obviously too hot to use in the summer.

      The five point straps are simple webbing with a two way plastic buckle so not particularly durable. Even adjusted to the smallest possible they are still far too big for my baby at 10 months. (She is on 25th centile so smaller than average but not very small.) This means that she could easily get her arms out of the straps although she hasn't worked this out yet! On bumpy terrain she slumps down in the seat with one shoulder strap against her neck which looks most uncomfortable although she doesn't complain.

      The back rest can be laid flat or sat up; you can adjust the angle using the strap at the back. However at its most upright it is still leaning back quite a way which my baby is not keen on as she keeps trying to pull herself forward so she can see better. The bumper bar at the front is right in her eye line at the moment and can't be adjusted. I think as she gets older the seat will be more suitable and with the cosytoes in use it will be much more comfortable.

      The hood is another major drawback as it only folds up to vertical so it offers no protection from the sun unless it is directly behind you. It also would be no good at protecting from a light drizzle rather than having to put the raincover on. There is a plastic viewing window in the hood, but it is right at the back so can only be used when the baby is lying flat. If they are sitting up you get a lovely view of the floor!

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        11.10.2008 13:56
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        great for off road or in town

        Well i nice all rounder buggy if you ask me, rough and smooth with ease. i have the fab black one think it was limited edition black fabric on black frame, most are compatible to use a car seat.

        easy to take down, (i had the one hand fold system) and fit in most boots, with the added bit that the wheels can be taken off incase it wont fit. it almost lays flat which is good for little ones which sleep most of the time while out, well mine did and loved napping in this buggy. Handy little pockey at the back for phone, purse ect.....
        They ca be very bulky which is why some people own this one and another for the car?? i loved using ours to take the dog for a walk down the river bank and it handled that very well. just depends on what you are after in a buggy

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          29.09.2008 17:55

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          This was our main buggy for our 3 little ones and if you are an outdoor family then it is 5 star. Our babies were all big around 9lb and the baby seat lasted a few months before they were in a car seat. As a family, we go walking a lot and the prams ability to handle terrain is great. Walks in the Lakes (Mickleden) and part of the Miner's track on Snowdon. For awkward bits two of you can lift easily. See books on All Terrain Pushchair walks. Great also for shopping as it could carry a fair bit. We always left the rain cover folded up over the hood. Yes it is big. You can take the wheels off easily to make it pack in the boot of the car. Sad to see it retired as it has been a good work horse.

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          09.04.2005 09:35
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          Leah's father had almost finished saving for his motorbike when I became pregnant. Thankfully, he decided that a three-wheeler buggy was almost as much fun, and became besotted with them instead, spending many happy hours kicking the wheels of buggies in shops and making grumbling noises about engines. We chose one with a swivel front wheel, for extra maneouvreability around corners (he also likes racing cars.)

          A travel system incorporates a car seat as well as a buggy, so it's a good first time buy for a new baby killing two birds with one stone. The car seat attaches to the buggy by simply lowering it into two slots, clicking it into place and adjusting the carrying handle. This means you can transfer a sleeping baby from car to buggy very easily without waking him or her up. Remove the car seat from the travel system and you can either lay baby down flat in the cosy-toes (a bit like a pram) or you can adjust the seat so that baby sits propped up and facing out, (or reclining) like a normal buggy. How very convenient! It's a stroller, a pram, a car seat and a buggy all in one!

          Sadly, if I have another baby I will be selling this one on ebay and I will be buying a stroller, a pram, a car seat and a buggy!

          Why I want a new stroller:
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          1) Because I can't reasonably take this on any form of public transport, into any shops, or into a cafe or restaurant. It's easy to fold up (you can fold it one-handed), but then so heavy I can't actually physically lift it onto the bus. I knew I wouldn't be getting many buses, so I didn't expect a miracle, but it's also just too cumbersome for shops or restaurants unless there is acres of space between tables. I ended up buying a sling for going into town.

          2) Even in large department stores I can't see where the wheel is at the front, and end up pushing it into people. Of course, you could argue that this buggy isn't designed to be a stroller, it's strictly for off-roading, and it IS good on bumpy surfaces, so how it performs in Marks and Spencers is maybe not a fair test.

          Why I want a new pram:
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          1) Because there is no suspension, the surface of the pram is very hard, and Leah hates it. My mum has an old silvercross pram, and it sends Leah to sleep as it is very bouncy and relaxing. In comparison, this is like lying on a concrete slab. On the plus side, it IS very light to push and has a comfy handlebar (squashy like a bike's handlebars.)

          2) Although the cosytoes is strapped to the pram, it still slides about with Leah in it, and I wouldn't be happy taking her down a steep slope in case the whole thing came away. It's gravity versus a few bits of cheap plastic.

          Why I want a new car seat:
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          1) It's HEAVY. The car seat alone weights 4.2kg (over 9 pounds) when empty. It's not just heavy with Leah in it, it's impossible to carry. I now lift Leah out of her carseat even when asleep and carry her in and out of the house. I have injured my shoulder since we first started using it (I was carrying it every day), and am in pain with it almost constantly. Leah is no totsy delicate baby, but I have seen friends carseats and when comparing empty ones, mine is always the heaviest.

          2) Although the car seat is a first stage one suitable for newborn babies up to 13kg (29 lbs) which is 12-15 months, Leah looks big in hers already (at 16lbs.) I can't see it lasting the distance. That could have applied in any first stage carseat, but this one does look smaller to me than others that are first stage seats. I'm not sure if they are standard sizes, correct me if I am wrong.

          3) It's not terribly comfy and not very well padded, in comparison to other car seats on the market.

          4) There is no scope for hanging toys which I have seen on many others.

          It's not ALL bad though. It IS easy and uncomplicated to fit in the car, and a small dial on the side lets you know easily if you have it in the correct position which is great when you are starting off. It comes with a headhugger which is great for tiny babies, an apron which attaches with velcro, and padded shoulder straps (although she hates these). You can remove the car seat cover and put it through the washing machine with no ill effects.

          NB: It's a rear facing seat, so you must position it facing the seat back, and not in the front seat if you have an airbag. This is standard for most first stage carseats.

          Why I want a new buggy:
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          1) The raincover is a pain to attach and despite the 45 velcro fastenings you seem to have to secure, it never looks as if it is on properly.

          2) The tray at the bottom for putting your shopping bags etc into holds the raincover, but nothing else will fit in it. So you can choose between sopping wet baby and shopping bags, or dry happy baby but no shopping (of course you could carry your shopping, but you'll also be carrying the changing bag and other baby equipment!)

          3) The buggy won't fold up properly unless you remove the raincover from the tray underneath. When folded it takes up all the space in my boot (I have a medium sized saloon car.) it won't go in a VW Golf, for example. Worse, I have to remove the third wheel completely to get it in the boot. How on earth I wouuld take it on holiday with luggage I don't know - in fact I know I couldn't. I know another couple who have the same travel system, and discovered to their horror that they can't actually fit it in their boot at all, so it has to go in their backseat, meaning they can travel with their baby or their buggy, but not both! It folds down to 91x57x47cm. (While this seems like my fault for not checking, I don't think it's unreasonable to expect it to fit into my car without having to take it to pieces - my car is NOT small.) Of course, the size also means a problem when storing the buggy in the house. Luckily, we have a garden shed!

          4) My sister has a lovely three-wheeler buggy with a fleecy cloth lining, so that baby sinks into it and moves with the material, like a sling on wheels. Again, there is that feeling of gentle rocking and suspension that babies love. As I said, this buggy must feel like lying on a concrete slab.

          5) The pneumatic tyres puncture easily. I have had two punctures already, without driving over any glass! The last thing you want to be worrying about is whether you are going to have to repair a tyre or not when you are out and about.

          6) The brake is quite stiff and has actually made my pelvic pain worse, so much so that I had to get my other half to put the brake on for me for the first six weeks after giving birth.

          7) You can't remove the buggy seat cover to wash it.

          8) Finally, the handle height is 106cm and as I am quite short, I find this a bit high.

          And the positives? There is one-handed folding button, which means you can actually fold it up using only one hand. Quite how you are then supposed to lift it into the car with one hand is beyond me! Also, there are wheel reflectors for safety when you are pushing your baby about at night (really, what planet do these people live on?) It WAS cheaper than buying the four component parts. It comes with a matching changing bag (whoop de doo, that bit is the best bit of the whole buggy!) There is a play-tray which attaches to the buggy and has space for your child's drink (or yours) rather like the kind you would find in the car. Which is quite cool. Not quite £275 pounds worth of value though.

          For £275 I think Leah would have been better off with a quarter of a motorbike after all.


          What you get for £275 summary:

          First Stage car seat (and backache)
          Raincover (but no shopping in your buggy tray unless you have it fitted, as there's no room)
          Cosy Toes for buggy (wouldn't trust it to hold Leah going downhill despite five-point star clip)
          Head hugger (cute, but only lasts a few weeks)
          Free pump for puncture repairs (you think its a great idea at first, until you realise they provide it as you WILL need it)
          Changing bag (I do use that, but it wasn't worth £275)
          Car seat apron (can only be used when the car seat is not in a moving car, how useful)
          Play tray with drinks holder (possibly the best part)
          And lets not forget, wheels that glow in the dark (reflectors)

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            02.05.2004 06:15
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            I bought the silver version of this pram,about 15 mnths ago.It cost almost£200,i chose this because in the store it seemed easily folded,looked good,and was comfy for baby. OK the folding with one hand ..well..i can't!! its stiff and bulky to close and you have to put all your weight into the back of it to close it and then somehow manage to get your arm round the side to "lock" it closed.easy peasy i hear you say..not holding a wriggly baby its not! Next is the front removable tray,well yes it is removable,but the pram looks awful without it and the holes where the tray connect are visible(nice for tiny fingers)..and just you try getting said tray back into position..argh its almost impossible. After the tray you get the inflatable tyres,when these go down you will need to go and buy a bicycle pump as the one that comes with the pram does'nt fit the back tyres,the front one is ok,but i spent 15 mins on my knees trying to inflate the back,to no avail,and much laughing from baby(i was not playing peek a boo!),talking about the wheels the front one has a tendancy to come loose and wobble when on swivel wheel mode,i asked about it instore and was told to keep it on fixed mode!!err well its a swivel wheeler option and that was another point that sold the pram to me!what you have to do is remove the metal plate and tighten up wheel periodically,this is not mentioned in the basic user guide you get with pram. Right my next groan is about the cosy toes,nice soft and warm,nice material,but within 1 month the zipper puller snapped in half and i had to put safety pin in to pull zip closed. Now after 15 mnths usage the cosytoes doesnt close as the zip is split,this is through normal use,you know with a baby in it and going t o shops/parks/etc..not massive off road running ..i tried running once ,but the wheels wobbled(see above)so much i was feeling a bit queasy..lol. All in all i find this a bulky,badly designed pram,i admit it was a
            rush buy,had just had baby for gawds sake!!!and was in a hurry,but i was genuinly sold the pram by the rave advice the assistant gave me. The few things i do like are minimal,the raincover is well designed,and hardwearing. The bag is roomy,the shopping basket is ok for a few bits n bobs..not a huge space. and it is comfy for babies to lie in the base of the cosytoes is really snuggly. If your thinking about this pram go look at it and take your time.But really i would look for something a bit more substantial,and i dont think i would buy a 3 wheeler again. Also mothercare's aftercare is useless and they really have been no help in resolving the problems i have had . Anyways this is my first review here so be gentle..hope this helps anyone wandering around mothercare daunted by the selection of prams. xxlors

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              28.11.2003 01:16
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              • "frame warped and pram nolonger folds"

              I used the three wheeler for 4 months during which time my baby cut himself several times on the left bar of the pram, when the cosy toes was removed, during the hot summer. The One hand fold gradully became stiffer until the pram no longer folds. The pram has only been used to walk to the local shops - up and down pavements. The frame of the pram has warped and the pram pulls to the left. A very disappointing purchase - not the robust walker Mothercare claim. Mothercare guarantee useless - read small print very carefully before buying. Customer services poor - not willing to sort the problem. Very bad experience - will never shop in Mothercare again.

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                01.12.2002 16:18
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                We bought this pushchair second hand (it's the brown version without the tray, but a bumper bar instead) and at the time I was really unsure whether we should buy it as we already had a stroller and it was a bit of an extravagence. I wanted to be able to do 'off-road' walks with my baby, however, so we went ahead and got it (half thinking that we really wouldn't use it enough and 3 wheelers were probably just a trendy gimmick). Anyway, it's one of the best things I've bought and I really love it. It's very roomy so I think my baby will be comfortable in it for a long time and it lies really quite flat so I was quite happy with it when my baby was only 2 months old (unlike my supposedly 'from birth' stroller). It's a joy to push - almost seems to move of it's own accord with no effort at all on smooth surfaces, so I actually use it round town in preferance to my stroller (even if it is a bit wider in shops). As for using it off road, it's been great and I've done full day off road walks with it down rutted tracks. I've also not had a puncture so far (perhaps I shouldn't say that)! I don't know how much better this pushchair is than the glacier, but I imagine the larger back wheels do contribute to how easy it is off road, and when you take into account the fact that it comes with cositoes and raincover, it's not so much more expensive either. All in all I would thoroughly recommend this pushchair without any hesitation (also read the 'Which' report and the mothercare 3 wheelers withstood a lot more rough treatment and bumpy surfaces than most of the more expensive 3 wheelers)

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                Fashionable yet practical and offering added comfort on uneven surfaces making it ideal for off-road walking.