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Phil & Teds Sport Doubles Kit

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Brand: Phil & Teds / Type: Jogger / Number of Seats: Double / Twin Seats

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      08.05.2013 09:38

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      A godsend for mums and dads with two babies!

      I bought this buggy when my first child was 9 months old and I found that I was pregnant again. Although it is not absolutely perfect, I have found it to be a lifesaver when shopping or walking with my two, and it means getting out of the house with two babies is a manageable and not a scary thought- and I think anything that makes life easier for mums has got to be a good thing!
      I found that my two loved sitting in the bottom even more than the top, and would even fight over sitting in the bottom seat, so my fears that the bottom seat was boring were completely unfounded! However, I did notice that neither could sleep in the bottom seat, and if I wanted the child in the front seat to sleep and reclined the seat, then the child in the bottom seat would complain, understandably, of lack of room.
      The shopping basket also drags on the floor when heavily loaded.
      The advantages, however, outweigh the disadvantages in my opinion, and I loved the fact that I could fit through any shop door and control the buggy just like a single one, with no problem.
      All in all I would absolutely recommend this buggy for anyone in a similar situation to me.

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      19.06.2011 08:53
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      Great for a walker but not for public transport or every day folding.

      Following on from my cocoon review, I figured it was time to add the other bits and pieces we used.

      ~~ The doubles kit ~~

      The P&T single buggy can be turned into a double with the ease of another seat and a couple of elbow adapters. The seat can attach to the back of the buggy when in toddler/toddler mode or to the front of the buggy in baby/toddler mode. To attach it to the front of the buggy you will need the elbow adapters (they usually come with the seat unit or can be purchased for around £12). The seat itself is pretty fixed position but it can lie down a tiny, tiny little bit.

      ~~ Attaching it ~~

      Attaching it is quite simple and if you're anything like me you'll be thinking what??? how can that be safe? To insert it you simply push the pole from the doubles onto the pole at the back of the P&T and clip it into the metal pegs sticking out (you know those annoying ones you have to push it to release but you can never push quite far enough?) To attach the front is just the same but you attach the elbows first (via the same peg method) and then slot it onto the poles at the front of the P&T. Couldn't be easier right?

      ~~ Taking it off ~~

      I looked at reviews before choosing to purchase it as I use public transport and the bus company here are a complete and utter nightmare for buggies. The previous reviews I had read said it was simple to do but I found it quite difficult, especially when in a hurry! You have to push those metal peg bits in in order to pull the seat back off. Sounds easy enough but there just isn't enough space to push them in far enough and I ended up searching our pens and all sorts to push the buttons in far enough to release it. Certainly not something I could do on a bus in a hurry! You can't fold the buggy with this attached so it's really your only option to take it off. The same release is at the front or back or the buggy and it can't be folded in either position.

      ~~ My verdict ~~

      There are some great things about this doubles kit but it just didn't work for us in the end. The good bits were the lack of connecters and things - two clicks and it was on, the ease of turning it into a double from a single which saves buying another buggy and saves on width going through shops. The harness on the extra seat is very secure too and the whole thing seems sturdy overall.

      The bits I didn't like? The metel pegs you have to push in to release. It's certainly not something you could do in a hurry and I suspect it's much better for someone who intends keeping the buggy unfolded as I can't imagine taking it in the car and back out fiddling like that every day!

      The seat at the back doesn't really recline either so if you still have 2 children that nap it's definitely not ideal. It's also not the best if you have a slightly taller child (like I do) as the metal bar at the top of the back seat will dig into their heads leaving it rather uncomfortable.

      The double kits retail in at around £56 which is nothing compared to the cost of a new double buggy so if you already have the P&T you're laughing. Is it worth buying a P&T just for the double version? It depends on your use. If you can leave it up for the majority of the time and you have small kids then go for it. Taller children and public transport are a definite no.

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        06.01.2010 22:26
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        Not perfect but good solution

        I had a Phil and Teds when my second son was born and my first son was just 2. I spent countless hours researching the pros and cons of various double buggies and although the Phil and Teds with doubles kit isn't perfect, in my opinion it is the best solution, here are my thoughts.
        Until i found a shop which stocked these buggies I couldn't work out how they work - a demo is essential. Basically the 'doubles kit' is the small chair which you can see on the back of the buggy in the picture. This set up can be used from 6 months. When the baby is under 6 months the main seat of the buggy lays flat and the doubles kit chair sits on the front where the bumper bar is for the toddler.

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        *Assess the pathways in your area as many of them are too narrow for a conventional side by side double buggy, the Phil and Teds is perfect.
        *It is a well designed, robust buggy and stood the test of time (and 2 toddlers!)
        * You will get many passers by remarking on how unusual it is.
        *Re sale value - I used mine for 2 years then moved on to a stroller as soon as my eldest was reliably, I sold the Phil and Teds to the first person who looked at it for roughly 60% of the original price I paid.

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        * The buggy is a little unfair on the youngest child as they are at the back
        and low down so they don't get a good view. The youngest child must always sit in the back for safety.
        *When used as a double buggy, neither seat reclines sufficiently.
        *The buggy is cumbersome and heavy to lift in and out of cars.

        Overall as I have said I would reccommend this buggy, even more so If you are expecting your first baby and plan to have a second within 2 years as the doubles kit can be bought as an add on and represents good value for money. I would always buy the coccoon for the baby bit as without it the buggy doesn't look very comfy or snug. Have a look at this buggy in a store then buy on the internet as the prices are much more competitive and often come with extras.

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        10.09.2009 21:58

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        Would definately recommend.

        Since having my two little boys this has to be one of the best items I have purchased. I chose the Phil and Teds double buggy over others as I liked how slimline it was. I was initially put off by the price, however, it is certainly value for money and I would definately recommend it. I love how you can change it from a double to a single buggy so easily and how straight forward and quick it is to fold down. I am also amazed at how easy it is to push even when I have both my boys in it. A really useful feature which I used alot was the seat which adjusts to flat for a newborn. The only down side for me is the storage basket, it is a little on the small side and difficult to put items in when the buggy is set up as a double.

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        21.08.2009 21:56

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        Very handy for when my eldest does not want to walk but wish it would fold with the double kit on. If you do want this then the newer "vibe" resolves this issue.It is expensive but well worth it and the pushchairs hold their value really well

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        03.01.2009 21:17
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        Nice pram especially for people who use buses

        I bought this after having a bad experience with a side by side double, they are quite expensive but there worth it there fantastic prams and very convienent if you use buses a lot, you can have a cocoon in the back aswell so your newborn can lay flat and as they get older you have a little seat for them which does recline slightly.
        Its very easy to push but is very heavy when folded.
        The only problems i have with this pram is i dont like the fact that my youngest child cant see anything sat behind the chair and hes very nosy so gets annoyed when he cant see much, also when i first got it my son was a baby in the cocoon and people used to bang into the back of the pram as you cant tell there is a baby in there which worried me.

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        10.11.2008 19:26
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        A great buggy for two toddlers and everyday life

        I bought this when i had my second child in jan 07, 11 months after my first child. I loved the idea of the buggy being nearly single sized and lightweight as i depend on public transport to get around. ALthough easy to get onto buses i found quite a few people did not realise there were two children in there as the newborn baby is quite well hidden, therefore quite a few ignorant people pushed past the pram, seeing my son on my lap assuming the buggy was empty and bashing my premature daughter around quite fiercely. i found the raincover doesn't cover the child at the back particularly well when in toddler mode but it was so easy to push that i didnt really mind. The soft carrycot made it easy to keep baby warm and move her from the buggy without waking her up. Does not fold with the doubles kit on and is quite heavy to fold and lift. In all, a brilliant design that just needed a few little tweaks, which the newer models now have. my kids love this buggy and it is brilliant for those off road walks in the summer.

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          14.10.2008 17:44
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          a fab buggy and wouldnt chance it for anything!

          i attually could not survive with out my phil and teds sport, i upgraded to the sport after having an e3 and although i adored my e3, i love the improvements of this version.

          pricey at £340 - and that was the best online price at the time, but definatly worth it - especially as seccond hand the price isnt much different!

          there are various positions that this buggy can do... single, newborn/toddler or toddler/toddler.

          i chose the pink camo fabric design - just be different really, at least 3 of my friends are child minders and they have the black sports, so i wanted to be different, plus i just love pink and luckily my three children are all girls! my friends joke that they can spot me from a mile away and couldnt lose me if they wanted too!

          the age gap between my children is 17 and 19 months (the eldest being 4 now and the youngest 10months) so essential that i had a double buggy as even when my 2 year old walks my lazy and tired from school just 4 year old jumps in!

          The doubles seat sits almost underneath the front seat which means the buggy is as long and as wide as a single one.

          The other thing i love about the design of this buggy is that its suitable for walking in town and for terrain enviroments and where i live that is a must.

          the differences from the e3 are that this buggy comes standard with mudgards, the hood is a much better shape and when in newborn/toddler position the older child head doesnt touch it. the raincover poppers are in much better places and are less likely to come off. also that the clips are much more child proof - they just cannot escape!
          The doubles seat reclines a little so much better for when the smaller child is in the back. There are also clip bits to fasten the buggy together when folded.

          There are only two things i wish they would change. one is the brake lever - shorter then the e3 and so stiff it makes life hard. the other is if you try to recline the doubles seat with a bigger child in they bash their heads!

          i am not tempted by the vibe... i just love my sport!

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          08.10.2008 01:14
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          Excellent if you're looking for a compact light double buggy

          My second baby was due when my daughter was only 20 months old, so I looked into the options avaliable. My daughter was not yet big enough to use a buggy board, so I needed to invest in a double buggy.

          My two main concerns where firstly, spending out a lot of money on a double buggy which may only be used for a short period of time (I didn't know when my daughter would decide she would be too grown up to sit in a buggy!) and secondly fitting a double buggy in my very small car.

          I was not keen on the double side by side buggies as I has seen parent struggling through door ways and shops with them, so I decided a tandem was the way forward.

          The Phil&Teds double buggy really ticked all the boxes. I bought it a few months before my second baby was due and used it as a single buggy for my daughter. I found it really light and easy to push around. Then once my son was born, it easily converted into a compact double buggy (the doubles kit just clicks easily into place), with my new born tucked snuggly behind my toddler away from the winter chills, but in constant sight. Sitting in the front, my daughter was still close by too, not feeling shoved to the front like some tandem buggies can feel.

          I am happy that although quite expensive, I know I will get my monies worth out of it as I will just revert it back to a single buggy when my toddler no longer requires it (or as happens now, decides she wants to walk to the shops from time to time).

          The buggy is also very compact when folded and fit easily in the boot of my Renault Clio, much better than my original travel system in fact.

          There is only one down side really as far as I'm concerned. The shopping basket is quite hard to get to when the main seat is fully reclined. One other slight niggle is that the break is a little tricky to put on and off. Other than that I am really pleased with this buggy.

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