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@ About @
(+) (What You get for your money) This game comes with two "add-on" stories, which inter link with the main story. In many missions we see Niko and the hardcore American biker, and also Luis who is Gay Tony's right hand man. There are a few holes in the story line though. When you see Patrick McReary dealing Diamonds for exchange of the Mob's Daughter, Luis is not there instead it is someone else. In The ballad of Gay Tony Luis is back where the other guy should be. A pretty big blooper Rockstar did not think about.
@ The lost and damned @
(+) (Good storyline) The lost and dammed follows a story line of an American bike club known as the dammed and their leader Billy. In the story there are just over 30 missions and all the regular pastimes such as Seagulls to shoot, odd jobs, and new friends. The whole story line is based around Billy, who gets out of jail and then goes straight back in after a deal goes wrong and the cops arrive. Billy believes that the vice president who you play as, Johnny has set him up.
(-) (Lost and dammed is poor value for money) To be honest I was not pleased with the amount of content you get for this. There are lots of bikes added to the game and one small hatchback car. You also get new music but only for two of the rock stations. LCHC and Liberty Rock Radio. You also get quite a grainy picture at sunset and this does not normally happen in the regular GTA.
(+) (The missions are the good bit) The missions are excellent and there are plenty of explosions and special effects in the game, not to mention variety of characters, there has to be at least 20 characters new in the game. Again the story does inter link with the original GTA IV and lets you play as Johnny the guy who meets Niko for the diamonds. In the lost and dammed though you see what Johnny is like behind Niko's back and you get to see what he actually thinks about him...
(-) (Glitches and bad acting) The lost and dammed also lacks the voice quality that I find the original story and Ballad of Gay Tony has. For example when falling off a building Johnny shouts "Oooh noo!" and you just know an actor said that because it lacks oomph like he really could not careless about dying. The story line also has a few glitches in where on missions like the one where you get Billy's bike back, you go outside again and Billy is already gone, but he didn't leave until you walked outside, so he has somehow run past you, got on his bike and started riding off without you knowing in that split second cut scene.
@ Ballad of Gay Tony @
(+) (Bigger link with original Story) Ballad of Gay Tony starts to interlink with the main story at Three Leaf Clover when you gain access to all islands. The story starts neatly when you play as Luis who is in the bank when Niko robs it. (Small world right?) Luis is the right hand man for Gay Tony and again there are about 30 missions but I think Ballad of Gay Tony has more features than Lost and Dammed. More cars, Nitro in the cars, Base-jumps with parachutes, more weapons and a complete change of music on the Dance stations.
(+) (Gifts and bonuses) You also get gifts such as vehicles from Yusef and more to the point, you get a great deal of things to do after the story is complete. Cage fighting, parachuting and completing missions all to 100% with all requirements.
(+) (New places and things to do) You get access to new places such as Bahama mammas which is a rival nightclub, and other aspects open up like drinking, dancing and bouncer for the nightclub. There is so much more to do which is why I always play Ballad of Gay Tony rather than the original story. In my opinion this has to be better than the original. More features, cars, guns, things to do etc and it never ends because you always need to complete missions to 100% and shoot seagulls etc. I have often found that in some aspects like vehicle damage and explosions are equal to the story line, they are all clearly animated and not realistic.
(+) (New Phone means new features) In the game you get a new mobile phone too, which yet again unlocks new features such as Booty call for girls you meet in the club and when out and about with friends you can do things like play golf, which again unlocks the golf cart! There is so much in this storyline that the Lost and Dammed simply does not have.
@ Overall @
(N) (One is good, one is bad) Lost and Dammed ruins this package because it does not have as many features as Ballad of Gay Tony, and once you have finished all the missions that's it, poor longevity but with Ballad of Gay Tony you can complete missions to 100%, go drinking, hang out with friends and there are base jumps.
(-) (Room for improvement) I love the fact that the story is interlinked and I think Rockstar have very cleverly done this in such a way that even more missions could be created in each add on game but there are still improvements to be made: First of all, in the Lost and dammed give it some more features, its way too basic and poor value for money. In the Ballad of Gay Tony they don't use enough of the storyline to have an effect, since you already know what will happen. The mission where Luis has to get the diamonds to the chef for the deal goes wrong, but in the main storyline and in the lost and dammed, you KNOW this will happen because you've played it twice before!! Very predictable.
(+) (On the whole) It's a fantastic package and I would recommend it. If you haven't fully completed the original GTA IV then do so, or the story wont make any sense at all.
Grand Theft Auto is knowingly one of the most popular game names around, and this particular Grand Theft Auto is by far the best! The graphics are a completely different level to the other Grand Theft Auto games and the ganeplay and missions are much more fun and realistic. The varierty of these missions are also so much better. The clothes and the other day to day things you can do on this game are also to a very high standard compared to the previous games. Not to mention the varierty of guns and weaponary in your arsenal. The storyline of the game is much more beleivable and more diverse that usual. This is by far the best game for gamers who like abit of distruction and menace whilst gaming! It is well worth the original £34.99 price but due to the facr it has been out for a while itwill be much cheaper than that in most high street shops! Must Buy!
Grant theft auto episodes from liberty city can be bought from amazon for £21.95, you get both games in the box which at the time seems great for the price but the game play is much shorter than the original that is now cheaper, which is why I have given it 4 stars.
I bought episodes of liberty city because I loved GTA: IV and since this was sort of like what you could call an-add on.
GTA IV is NOT needed to play this game.
The game features Lost and The Damned and The Ballad of Gay Tony, I wasn't quite sure how it would work with IV but as you start the games it gives an intro of how you have seen the main characters of each game, I won't ruin how.
Graphics of both games are amazing, they aren't as long as IV but you can tell with the graphics, sound and story play the makers - Rockstar, have put a lot of effort and time into the games.
They are both rated 18 you understand why because of some of the sexual content in both games are not for younger players, drugs and swearing.
Lost and The Damned
Not my favourite of the two but it was still good to play.
It is about Johnny Klebitz a biker one of the members of "The Lost", the president of the club Billy comes back from rehab and takes over again destroying the work he has done causing rivalry between other gangs
New weapons are in this game that you didn't get in IV and newer music of course it being a biker game the main music is metal. Game play wasn't as interesting as it could have been nor where the characters although I did like the main. In this game you work alongside Niko in a few missions.
Side missions are to do with the biker theme.
Also I didn't like the safe houses, they annoyed me a little.
The Ballad of Gay Tony
My favourite one, you play as Luis Lopez who is the assistant to Tony Prince who is Gay Tony who runs a nightlife empire. I found the storyline much more interesting to play, characters more interesting and would play again.
Again there are new weapons different from both, new cars and music. More characters but most you have already seen in the original game which I liked.
In this one you work more against Niko than with him.
Side missions are nightlife theme, and you can work in the club at nights.
I enjoyed this game and if you enjoyed the previous game I would definitely recommend you buy this. Graphics, sound and story were done brilliant, isn't too difficult to get used to but I think the game could have been longer.
Although I loved the story of it I felt missions started to go away from the original game, it worked well but I would have preferred a little more to original.
It is also good that you don't need the original game to play it.
Episodes from Liberty City includes two standalone games, somewhat expansions, of Grand Theft Auto. The Ballad of Gay Tony and The Lost and Damned are both included.
It's a short and fun game that explores different characters and cultures of Liberty City. While in GTA 4 you're an immigrant struggling to make it by, in these episodes you're completely different. From a biker gang member that loves chaos and destruction to a nightclub owners bodyguard doing the dirty work in the nightclub scene. The variation is a nice change of pace.
Each game brings something new to the table. Gay Tony brings in new helicopters to have fun in, sky diving and the ability to party. I would compare it to San Andreas personally, it remembers that players love outlandish fun sometimes and not pure realism like GTA4 aimed for.
The Lost and Damned brought a gritty story and lifestyle of bikers, and gang tension. It is very entertaining to ride around as a gang and watch your character develop into what he becomes. It includes some fun new mini games to play at your 'clubhouse', and a large amount of bikes and updated the LCHC radio station.
Ultimately I had a lot of fun on these games, but they are not as huge as the first game, even together. I would suggest renting this game rather than buying it.
This game is a free roaming game which is made up of two smaller games and gives you the chance to choose which one to play at the title screen. There's 'The Lost and the Damned' were you're in a biker gang doing various missions for the gang and most of it you spend on a motorbike and there's the other game 'The Ballad of Gay Tony' were you're part owner of a night club and you do various different missions related to this for Gay Tony who is the other owner.
Being a fan of Grand Theft Auto games and having played all the other ones I couldn't wait for this to come out and on playing it it hasn't disappointed. It's very similar to all of the other Grand theft Auto Games in the series but then again why fix it if it's not broke and these games most certainly aren't.
You get the normal free run of the city as you have in the other games and also a large range of weapons ranging from handguns and grenades to rocket launchers and attack helicopters.
There is also a large range of vehicles at your disposal whether they be land, sea or air. The missions are great fun and there are also a number of minigames throughout the city that are very enjoyable such as Golf.
The game's age rating seems a bit high however if you're sitting in traffic in this game, honk your horn and a woman comes over to the window of your car and offers her services you'll know why. Slightly more graphic than the other games. There is also bad language and sexual references throughout.
I found the car's in this game a bit harder to control than the other ones but had great fun trying to master them. The graphics in the game are fantastic along with the gameplay itself.
The game isn't as long as some of the other Grand Theft Auto games out there however this didn't take away from the game at all as there's a whole city to explore.
Overall a great game at a great price.
When I bought this game, I thought I had a bargain for the price I paid for it, given the fact there are two games. However, don't be fooled - these games have a gameplay that lasts between 4-6 hours each so around 12 hours in total for both games.
GTA IV, alone, has a campaign that lasts around a whopping 30 hours!
The Ballad of Gay Tony is easily the better of the two games with some impressive cut scenes and addictive gameplay. I liked the fact that the main player of the game eventually comes across the one from GTA IV. A very neat thing to do!
Graphics are basically the same as GTA IV and the same for the audio.
The Lost and Damned is pretty cool for metal heads to play. This is a personal choice but I don't like driving motorcycles much as flying off them is a pain in the butt so make sure you are a good driver!
To sum up, wait for this to come down in price a bit because if you have the impression that you get two 30 hour campaign games, you don't.
I would prefer to call them mini games.
Pay around the tenner range, not anywhere near £30-£40.
GTA: Episodes From Liberty City combines the two pieces of DLC released on XBOX 360 in 2009. 'The Lost and the Damned'; which focused on the biker gangs of Liberty City and the second release, 'The Ballad of Gay Tony' where you're cast as a bouncer and personal bodyguard to the owner of a hip nightclub.
The Episodes were originally intended (at least that's what Rockstar told us) to be downloadable only. Well, they lied as the DLC release of the 2nd episode in October coincided with the disc based release.
As a massive fan of GTA, especially the now much criticised GTA IV.. I was initially a bit peeved that Rockstar announced the disc version after I had recently spent 1600 ms points (around £13) to download TLATD for the simple reason that I knew I would have to buy it. Historically the production values of Rockstar's games has been second to none, from the frankly unnecessary but very cool map/poster to the lavish manual. This is no different and it's especially impressive as this wasn't released as a full price title. I picked this up for under £25 on the day of release.
To the games themselves, after having played IV and now each of the Episodes, there truly is a case for arguing that this package is the better of the two. Many criticised IV's bleak realism in spite of Niko being an excellent lead, the negative tone could be a bit unabating.
With Episodes, these are two very distinct and very different games. TLATD surprised me when first announced, dealing with motorcycles which had never been GTA's forte but the handling has been tightened up and it works really well.
The second Episode is a complete departure from IV in every way and is far more reminiscent of the carazy missions found in Vice City or especially San Andreas with plenty of base jumping, nightclub dancing and helicopter based missions. It's probably the slightly better of the two.
It was a pleasure to revisit Liberty City and if anything, playing these Episodes nearly two years after GTA IV's release is testament to the quality of the game and the scope for developing Liberty City. I'd have no problem if Rockstar's next GTA was more episodic content in Liberty City. The most well realised gaming playground ever. But I know i'm in the minority and people won't be happy until Vice City gets the same treatment. Fair enough.
Grand Theft Auto Episodes From Liberty City is an standalone game including both expansion packs The Lost and damned and The Balad of Gay Tony. Only available on xbox 360. The game plays well, considering its based on Grand Theft Auto iv. The missions in the game revolve around two characters, Johnny Klebitz a veteren member of The Lost motorcycle club and Luis Lopez part-time hoodlum and full time assistant to Tony Prince AKA (Gay Tony) owner of a number of nightclubs. Apart from the new missions which are closly linked to those in GTA iv giving the player a new perspective on the whole storyline of the game there is not much new here, it's still a good game but not really worth buying as it won't take long to complete. Also there isn't much in the way of multiplayer action either, stick with GTA iv it's more fun.
Was given this for Christmas as a stand alone game. Was a bit worried that gameplay would be limited due to not having GTA4, but it certainly exceeds expectations. The gameplay is fantastic with plenty of detail and continuity. The story interweaves with lots to keep you busy. I have found it far too easy to get busted but I'm sure thats a problem with me not the game. :). Both episodes, the motorcycle gang and gay tony, are very in depth and detailed. The game itself is very enjoyable but certainly deserves its 18 certification. Not a game for the squeamish or light hearted. Lots of violence and swearing. Overall, without determination this game would be easy to give up on given the difficulty for a novice. However, the game itself is intriguing enough to make you want to complete it. I would recommend this to anybody who has enjoyed the past GTA's or as a taster before getting into the full game.
This single-disc set contains two expansion packs for the excellent Grand Theft Auto 4, each of which is practically an entire game in its own right. Same Liberty City setting, all new characters, weapons and activities.
First up is The Lost and the Damned, which has been available separately for some time. It follows motorcycle gang member Johnny Klebitz as he deals with the repercussions of the return of his chapter President Billy from a stint in jail. It also intersects a couple of times with the story of Niko from GTA4, which is always nice to see; it gives the game a real sense of belonging in the GTA world and a nice timeframe to compare the events by.
Gameplay is exactly the same as in its predecessor - you can steal cars, drive around, shoot people, do all the things that make the Daily Mail rather upset! There are a couple of improvements; you can start longer missions from checkpoints, and you don't have to take your irritating friends out drinking and bowling every five minutes. Graphics are exactly the same (though perhaps even more grey, brown and colour-bleached than GTA4), and there are a couple of new songs on the classic rock radio. In all, though, it's more of the same - but that's not a bad thing, when the standards set by GTA4 are so high.
Next is brand new The Ballad of Gay Tony, in which you play Luis Lopez, who works for nightclub owner Gay Tony. This one's much shinier, with neon signs everywhere and colourful menu options. The weapons are much improved too, it must be one of the perks of working for someone affluent for once! Parachutes make a welcome return, as they have been gone since GTA:San Andreas, and the base-jumping feature is EXCELLENT fun. The club management feature is a little dull, though, and the music played in the clubs where you seem to spend a fair amount of your time is DIRE.
The missions are quite a bit harder from the getgo - a couple of the early missions rival even some of the later GTA4 ones in difficulty (the Yusef chase-the-boats-in-you-helicopter mission springs to mind). However, this just means the game is challenging, not impossible. As with GTA4 and The Lost and the Damned, the story is compelling enough to make you want to push through and play the missions again and again until you can progress. Being about the club scene, this story seems to be more focused on drugs and sex than violence, wheras previous stories have mostly focused on the violence aspects.
Currently selling at Amazon for £24.99, this is an excellent pack for an excellent price. It's certainly worth getting them both at once, as it makes it easier to see how the stories intersect at times. It's not exactly fun for all the family, of course, but if you don't mind (rather a lot of) violence and a bit of sex in your video games and have already played through GTA4, you could do worse than to play these.